[00:04] i just turned 30, chaps [00:04] :( [00:07] :( [00:08] * daftykins is scared [00:08] well, you should be. the best years of your life are officially over, and it's all downhill until bedpans from here [00:08] \o/ [00:09] never was a truer word spoken [00:10] the trick from here, is to quit thinking about it [00:11] when I realised that people leaving school, weren't born when I left school, I felt old. [00:11] i see, imagine i don't know, eh? [00:11] just never do the math and you'll be fine :) [00:19] or do it in base 16... [00:22] time for more beer methinks [00:22] that sounds a lot like my 30th :) [00:24] \o/ beer [00:25] :D [00:26] a local mate shares my birthday so i'm relying on his surprise event on Saturday for more of an effort really ;) [01:21] major crimes is so good:D [02:13] did u ever try pidora zmoylan-pi? [02:21] i'm happy with raspian at the mo. [02:21] might play with a few other oses when i finally get a pi 2. but i need a hdmi monitor first [02:59] zmoylan-pi: VGA only in your parts? [03:06] they've worked till now. had to connect my current pi to scart to set it up. now connect via ssh or vnc [03:15] ah ok [03:15] i just use mine with tv [03:16] im ordering a pi2..but have to get it sent to spain lol [03:16] cant order anything to gibraltar :( [03:16] weird :S [03:18] it's one of those 'parts of the uk' right until you want something delivered there [03:19] same drama as here [03:19] hmm i wonder if amazon UK crawled back to life yet [03:19] see northern ireland [03:24] is there a parcelmotel service that would do the delivery end of things? [03:27] i managed to order 1 cable off amazon but laptop..rasperry pi all said no [03:27] even protein lol myprotein.co.uk wanted 60quid for delovery O_o [03:28] worst delivery story goes to a guy i worked with. he wanted to buy a dvd when dvds were new and shiny. [03:28] well if love is involved too... [03:28] zmoylan-pi: ooh do tell :D [03:29] he's a batman fan and they announced a special batman animated dvd. it was never going to be shown unedited on tv. he had to have it [03:29] so he waited till it was released and they announced it was only region 1. so no dvds for europe [03:30] so he organised with family members in usa to send it to him when he had it delivered to there place. [03:30] this was prior to DVD Jon presumably? :> [03:30] then they wouldn't let a european order a usa dvd for reasons we could never quite work out [03:31] the whole of space-time will collapse! [03:31] he was prepared, when he bought a dvd player he bought a region free dvd player [03:31] so he sent money to usa relatives and they ordered it and posted it to him. [03:31] drove him bonkers every step... [03:31] dvd john?:) [03:31] lol hassle zmoylan-pi :) [03:32] and then 2 days before it arrived someone broke into his house and stole his tv and dvd player [03:32] so he had a dvd in his hands and no way to view it. laptops were only just beginning to ship with dvd drives. [03:33] mapp: teenager that cracked the DVD encryption, ja [03:33] at least he was a teen at the time, 13-15 iirc [03:33] only machine in the office with dvd belonged to boss. and refused to play region 1. [03:33] zmoylan-pi: lmao [03:33] that is one impressive tale [03:33] took me an hour to flip it to region 1 in firmware but i thought he was going to lose it at that point :-) [03:34] whle thing wouldve driven me mad [03:34] the shipping hassle and sods law of being burgled [03:35] he had gone out of his way when getting a dvd player to make sure it was region free as he knew he'd end up with 1-2 dvds from usa. wasn't easy back then. [03:36] :> [03:36] and now you can just rip fine [03:36] yea [03:36] although de-interlacing NTSC DVDs is a tad tedious [03:36] so now he just torrents everything. he'll try and buy it but once he hits any little bumps he remembers the batman dvd and nearly popping an artery trying to get it and watch it [03:38] 8) [03:57] hm that film wasnt bad [03:57] no good deed with idris elba === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [04:21] hm# [04:21] almost bed time [06:18] Yawn [06:18] time to get up [06:31] fight those urges [07:50] morning peeps [07:57] morning [08:07] hey MooDoo [08:07] how are you doing today ! [08:07] :) [08:07] * knightwise figured out why the wifi was a tad slow on his surface pro [08:09] knightwise: yeah I'm ok thanks [08:13] hmm... 128 gig of storage is kinda on the small side [08:13] I had this great 64 gig Micro SD card I could have popped in .. but I lost it somewhere :(:( [08:15] MooDoo: what machine are you currently working on btw ? [08:18] morning all [08:18] hey SuperMatt [09:24] Good morning all; happy Pancake Day! :-D [09:25] morning [09:34] hey JamesTait [09:35] \o/ Pancakes [09:35] I may have to go and make some [09:35] sounds like a good idea [09:35] i should make a huge batch and save them for later. [09:36] knightwise, o/ [09:37] hey popey [09:37] popey: you should make a batch and share them with us [09:37] morning MartijnVdS b [09:37] heh [09:37] good luck with that [09:38] I could probably use some of my brothers' beer to make them [09:38] mmmm beer [09:39] someone say beer? [09:40] just cleaned out my barrels and mashing bucket for my first batch of the year === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:54] hmmmmmm pancakes [10:02] right, screw it, I'm off to make pancakes [10:05] have fun! [10:20] damn [10:20] popey made me hungry [10:29] pancakes & pub quiz later on \o/ [10:31] \o/ made some [10:31] stored for the kids for later [10:33] morning boys and girls. [10:34] Yo brobostigon ! [10:34] yo [10:34] morning knightwise and popey [10:50] MooDoo, like your url ( rubbishhosting ) :) [10:55] popey: and you are the biggest kid right so you'll eat them alllllll muhahahahahaha [10:56] diplo: yeah it's just me playing about lol [10:56] and then have to make some more obviously :) [10:56] Where do you host the servers ? At work ? [10:57] diplo: shhhhh garage ;) [10:57] How do you get around mail etc on a dsl/cable line ? [10:58] diplo: 15 sites doesn't generate much traffic, so it's been ok so far :D [10:58] MooDoo: is a Shhhhhhh garage just a lie, I'd of thought hmmmmmmmmmmm garage would of been closer with all those fans spinning [10:58] it's only 3 servers, one nas and a desktop [10:59] MooDoo: that's a lot of spinny things then :P [10:59] dries your hair if you've just been in the shower ;) [10:59] diplo: it's not ideal, but it works for me at the moment [11:01] I need to fix my new router to make less fan noises [11:01] davmor2: managed to resist, had two, and saved 6 for the kids. [11:04] It was to the point that a lot of isp's block stuff now adays for hosting stuff at home [11:04] https://www.etsy.com/shop/RabbitEngineering?section_id=16362079&ref=shopsection_leftnav_1 [11:04] SO CUTE! [11:09] diplo: i've been doing it ages and not been penalised yet, I think they are ok with home hosting, just not if i'm maxing the connection constantly [11:10] ah right, well my line is to rubbish to host anything on, go with a digital ocean droplet for a few quid a month :) [11:10] MooDoo: I have one of these at home: http://routerboard.com/RB1100AHx2 (overkill³) [11:11] diplo: on virgin it's fine as long as you use standard ports it's in the t's and c's [11:11] MooDoo: they don't care about hosting stuff at home here -- they can't really complain when selling 500/500 ;) [11:11] I'm debating going back to Virgin [11:14] I have run stuff at home on virgin for _years_ [11:14] never been a problem [11:16] MartijnVdS: nice though, i'm just using 2 x 8 port switches [11:17] MartijnVdS: so I can have one nic on one switch and the other nic on the other switch :D [11:21] MooDoo: this one should be able to do 1.5 gigabits of ipsec.. apparently [11:21] MooDoo: (so en/decrypting) [11:22] so a little 500/500 home routing is peanuts [11:24] RAT tickets booked :D [11:26] \o/ [11:27] MooDoo, what do you do about fixed ip, taking it virgin still don't offer that? [11:27] dynamic dns [11:27] popey.mooo.com points to my home [11:27] afraid.org do dynamic dyns [11:27] Yeah I've used them before, I guess if you pay for the solution you can sort mail records etc [11:28] i wouldn't do mail at home [11:31] diplo: no static, I just use no-ip but it hasn't changed in awhile [11:31] i use afraid.org as well [11:33] yeah I remember mine used to change once every 9 months or so, or if we had a powercut [11:34] diplo: http://store.virginmedia.com/the-legal-stuff/acceptable-use-policy.html section 7 [11:34] diplo: +1 on no-ip [11:36] yeah I already use dynamic, just wondering what VM were like now adays, been a few years for me [11:37] One of the biggest issues I had was when torrenting ( legitimately or not ) it used to kill the line [11:37] Whats the like now ? [11:37] diplo: as long as you turn superhub to modem only mode it just works [11:37] Cool, well they keep spamming me with letters of offers so I guess I may take them up on it [11:46] yeah, superhub in modem only mode and add a router in front of it = win [11:47] Good morning peeps :) [11:57] You do have a pick a router that can route WAN -> LAN at a high enough speed [11:58] For dynamic DNS I use duckdns these days [11:58] You can set up a client to refresh it really simply with curl or wget [11:58] Although my IP hardly ever changes, as above [12:01] bigcalm: morning [12:02] I've got a Draytek 2830 that does Cable or DSL, probably stay with that for now [12:02] we have a Draytek in the office, horride device [12:04] I went for an ASUS RT-N16 because it's relatively modern, routes fast enough for 100Mbit/s, and is well supported by OpenWRT [12:07] I use an old mini-itx board at home, PPPoE for the ADSL line and a ton of OpenVPN clients [12:08] I used to use a mini-itx till it died [12:08] What don't you like about the Drayteks ? We use them all over [12:09] Only reason I have the draytek is that it was sat in my office doing nothing, had the original Sagem horrible thing at home before [12:09] diplo: overpriced, awful (I mean truely terrible) web interface are the two main reasons [12:09] I'd agree with overpriced, although we never have issues with them. Rock solid up time etc [12:10] Web interface I guess I've got used to now :/ [12:38] I was wondering if its possible to put a standard router you buy in the shop into 'real' router mode [12:38] hence to link up 2 subnets WITHOUT the nat translaion [12:39] Thing is , i'm currently trying to seperate the networks from my own company and the one for my geeky projects [12:39] knightwise: routerboard.com ;) [12:39] knightwise: also VLANs [12:40] (consumer routers can do VLANs, but not with stock firmware, at least not easily; openwrt can do it, but it's also a hassle; RouterOS/Routerboard stuff just has it built in, clicky clicky) [12:40] hm :) I have the ac66ru from Asus [12:40] It supports vlans i think [12:41] knightwise: I have this at home http://routerboard.com/RB1100AHx2 (way overpowered), but for most home use scenarios, RB750GL would be more than enough. [12:41] Or one of the RB2011 series [12:41] Cool beans [12:42] knightwise: they also have managed/manageable 5-port gigabit switches for the same price as expensive non-managed ones in stores [12:43] True. but even if I have 2 vlans I need to have some routing inbetweeen [12:43] knightwise: http://routerboard.com/RB750GL [12:43] mmmm :) Coolz [12:43] knightwise: you can try the OS in a VM -- they offer CD install images for download (24 hour trial) [12:44] That wouldn't be a bad idea actually . I could run a vm router on my home server , pop in a second network card and hook that up to the 2nd subnet [12:44] mikrotik.com [12:44] knightwise: with vlans, you don't need the second card. it's all tagged traffic on the same cable [12:45] brobostigon: exactly -- it has CD installer images to download (for a "router" VM) [12:45] yes. [12:45] I'm using these devices for wifi deployments at small companies too now [12:46] ("waiting room wifi") [12:46] as a vm ? [12:46] knightwise: no for the wireless networks I deploy actual devices they offer [12:47] knightwise: but on mikrotik.com you can download x86 CD images that you can use to install a virtual machine with their RouterOS [12:47] (and it'll be a trial that works for 24 hours; if you like it you can buy a license or some dedicated hardware) [12:47] and then assign to virtual network cards to it [12:49] knightwise: yeah you could do that. Create VLAN interfaces on the host, create several virtual NICs on the guest, and use those. Or give one virtual NIC, bridged with your real NIC to the guest, and have it do the VLAN stuff itself [12:51] (otherwise you'd get vlan-in-vlan if you created VLANs inside the VM; that's usually not what you ant) [12:51] +w [12:52] :) making it a little too complex for a home network here :) [12:53] I think that's just the scenario if you try to use a VM as a router. if you buy a box it looks totally normal [12:53] * zmoylan-pi looks at my wifi ap connected to my landlords ap for free internet... === mhilton is now known as mhilton-lunch [12:58] Yaaaawn [12:59] afternoon fatige [12:59] * brobostigon drafts a coffee/tcp protocol. [13:00] ping times increase with repeated usage? [13:01] ping times increase in cold weather, as it takes longer to heat water. [13:03] and an 'out of coffee' error would see the system going slower and slower before stopping completely [13:04] yep. === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:20] hmmm [13:20] i assume program manager in the US is a timelord [13:21] she obviously has not comprehension of linear time [13:21] could be a prophet from the wormhole... [13:22] zmoylan-pi: Ive never seen her before [13:22] she could be non-coporial [13:43] Currently loving the Mars one up dogs advert [13:47] ello folks [13:51] diddledan: o/ [13:51] someone just showed me a taylor swift song [13:51] quite liking it to be quite honest with you [13:52] we weep for you [13:52] * MooDoo slaps laney [13:52] "this sick beat" omg i've just breached copyright [13:52] * knightwise runs around screaming 'the end of the world' [13:52] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM [13:52] give it a chance [13:52] no [13:52] it's crap [13:52] nope! [13:52] sorry did i just say that out loud [13:53] someone mentions taylor swift and my instant reaction is CRAP! lol ooops [13:53] Laney: its not bad considering most forms of crap that passes for pop music these days [13:54] Laney, thank goodness it's not more gangsta turd :-p [13:55] diddledan I agree. [13:55] it might be my age showing but pop music doesn't seem to do it for me these days [13:56] knightwise, gangsta really gets my goat riled [13:56] haha [13:56] good job you get to like what you want eh [13:57] whenever the words 'Club , homeys, hood, gansta, money, nigga, cops or my personal favorite "booty" are part of the lyrics .. i'm out ! [13:57] afternoonings [13:57] knightwise, and "pop a cap" [13:57] allo daftykins [13:57] that'd be the popcap games right out, then [13:58] Laney: No I'm MooDoo the worst of the 80's/90's/00's music wasn't that awful [13:58] happy 30th to daftykins \o/ [13:58] daftykins: congrats ! you are 10 years my junior :p [13:58] ^_^ thanks [13:58] it feels... nasty. [13:58] Laney: i love that sony :) [13:58] *song [13:59] yeah whatever, go write something off because it's popular [13:59] not being your junior, but being 30 :D [13:59] popey: the video is great too [13:59] yes [13:59] Sophie did a dance to that in the panto this year [13:59] made it stick in my head [13:59] daftykins, happy "yet another day" [13:59] daftykins: hippo birdy [14:00] hippos! \o/ [14:00] I'd not seen that video before, it's excellent fun. [14:01] * popey adds to special list. [14:01] i love that i don't even know who that girl is [14:01] popey, Laney: I think there are much better earworms than that [14:01] watched a bit, but nah - off [14:01] well, you do know who it is [14:02] because Laney explicitly said Taylor Swift [14:02] you know what i mean :P [14:02] i properly don't [14:02] prior to clicking i couldn't have pointed her out in a crowd [14:02] davmor2: come up with one that is from the last 10 years and not your 1000 hits of the 80s cds :) [14:02] me either. [14:02] * daftykins tucks into his Boots triple-pack sandwich and coffee [14:02] don't see that it's remarkable though [14:03] although I follow her on twitter [14:03] https://twitter.com/swiftonsecurity [14:03] so her face stares out of the screen at me now and then [14:04] there seems to be a bit of fuss about her in another channel today, but i really can't say i see it [14:04] ho-hum, not a topic for this channel anywho :) [14:04] Mmn, eggy in the basket [14:05] just wanted to share a recent in my humble opinion pretty good pop tune [14:05] next time i'll redress the balance with some gregorian chants [14:05] popey: 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mGBaXPlri8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRMOMjCoR58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CevxZvSJLk8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaAVByGaON0 do you want more? I have lots [14:05] oh dear http://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/2015/02/16/Saudi-cleric-Sun-revolves-around-stationary-Earth.html [14:05] haha, good call davmor2 [14:06] not heard tatu for a long while [14:06] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcDy8HEg1QY 1994 [14:06] tatu? they're fun! [14:06] popey: there is all about us by tatu too [14:06] popey: were they new enough? [14:07] :) [14:07] lulz Laney [14:07] i've decided i quite like the spam email someone forwarded to me, asking why they couldn't block it. it doesn't have a 'from' address :) [14:08] this song reminds me of the big breakfast [14:08] not sure why [14:08] i used to love the big breakfast [14:08] would set my alarm for 10 to 7, switch on tv in bed and watch it for 2 hours then go to work [14:08] zig and zag from the planet zog [14:08] ya [14:08] friend of mine was in the bathroom with zig and zag once [14:08] popey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B32yjbCSVpU [14:08] they wanted people with strange phobias [14:09] Laney: https://www.youtube.com/user/ZoggFromBetelgeuse [14:09] she pretended to be afraid of wooden spoons [14:09] and her friend was afraid of beards [14:09] Laney: Mr Blobby I think wins the most annoying earworm [14:09] naturally zig and zag put false beards on and waved spoons about [14:10] XD [14:10] popey: this is quiet earwormy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts [14:10] did you know they filmed the zig and zag bits on separate days, in batches [14:11] and had to ensure chris wore the same shirt for continuity [14:13] popey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQYw49saqc [14:14] popey: and finally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KEEXyRL0qE [14:15] wow, i forgot they wore ski jackets [14:16] the other Cranberries stuff is ace :) [14:16] Dog loves to take food out of his bowl and to come eat it right next to me [14:16] cruncy sounds = driving me bonkers [14:17] its like an auditory ddos to my thinking process [14:18] knightwise: haha [14:22] popey: on top of that there is anything by Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Beyonce, shakira (especially when ever where ever), tatu, Evanescence, Meggan whatever her name is (all about the base, lips are Movin' etc), [14:23] the list goes on and on === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:24] If I go back another 10 years however then you start with Prodigy and it goes down hill fast from there :) [14:30] argh, the drone for the workmen's generator (replacing gas mains) is driving me nuts [14:31] popey: definitely finally https://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&v=9bZkp7q19f0&gl=GB [14:35] Nope nope nope :) [14:39] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ6zr6kCPj8 [14:39] just leave that there for popey [14:45] popey: not don't listen to this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRfuAukYTKg :D === mhilton-lunch is now known as mhilton [14:48] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY-0nbmIZe4 just leave this one for you all too [14:51] Hi I'm gona need a hand in half an hour to get "HugeGreenBugs_Ubuntu_14.04_64bit_for_Acer_C720" setup for an C720P .. is anyone going to be around ? [14:52] err.. [14:52] Just need a hand with the partitions on the USB. at installation options (please). [14:55] ugh another chromebook buyer [14:55] Greblus: there are roughly a billion guides online [14:55] popey: and of course https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgvGjAhvIw [15:31] Greblus: are you going to use crouton or dual boot ? [15:32] daftykins: be nice :) Its just another linux user like us [15:32] knightwise, "one of us" [15:32] there are no other linux users like daftykins :-P [15:33] lol [15:33] Greblus: i would make the suggestion to use crouton if you are quite new to the whole thing. It makes for a good system for hardware compatibility [15:48] lol, windows has a "god mode"? http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/enabling-godmode-windows-10 [15:50] it looks to be just an aggregation of every accessible setting from the control panel into a single list [15:54] knightwise, Saw your podcast recently, It must have been a second attempt at the chromebook podcast, I think.Well done I shall be with you once I've uploaded where I am upto on imgur .. hold tight (10-15,minutes possibly). Thanks for your help so far. [15:54] knightwise has a podcast? === luke is now known as Guest60169 [15:54] knightwise, are you holding out on me?! [16:00] Greblus: thanx :) [16:01] check the website for during that week we have done "chromebook week" with quite a few posts on how to get it all working [16:01] diddledan: you didn"'t know ? i've been podcasting for over 8 years [16:01] www.knightwise.com [16:02] * diddledan subscribes [16:02] you can check out the live recordings over at www.knightwise.com/youtube [16:04] knightwise is very wise on ubuntu Macbookair's. +1 [16:04] lol :) Thanx Greblus :) [16:04] i make a sport out of installing ubunt on things that arent supposed to run it in the first place :) [16:04] * knightwise is now running 14.04 on his surface pro 1 [16:04] OK, I'm still uploading to imgur may tae a while. [16:05] I can go get the powerlead to the chromebook.. while tha's happening. [16:05] **that's [16:09] Greblus: should you do the install with crouton , remember to add the -x11 and -audio switches to the installer === Guest60169 is now known as NET||abuse [16:27] knightwise, I've uploaded here's my question: [16:28] OK so I have five lines of messages so please don't put me down by saying I'm flooding: it's complicated at best. [16:28] Ok .. so here's what I want to do: Vox http://bit.ly/vocaroo_VOX1 [16:28] Here's partly the instructions I used: http://bit.ly/17NeiN0 [16:28] note, PLEASE don't just say install crouton as I bought this laptop to try the hugegreenbugs distro purposely for that reason only. [16:29] Here's the album of where I am upto: http://bit.ly/HGBugs_Installation_Album [16:29] Apologies for the amount of partition on the HDD-itself, I wiped ChromeOS by putting Ubuntu on the HDD instead of the USB last time. [16:29] Just need to know how to get it onto the USB drive. Which partition should I use according to the photographs in the album ? [16:30] phew .. now the pain of an answer .. :) [16:31] holdon , i'm looking through the links [16:33] ok .. thats not an easy one :) [16:34] I've done the crouton ones so i'm not sure how to do the repartitioning , but lets see what i can find [16:34] right as you can tell, I'm a very patient person, these days. [16:36] here is a post about what the partitioning looks like for a different os : http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.be/2012/12/so-you-want-chrubuntu-on-external-drive.html [16:36] so this one will tell you where the different partitions are [16:37] after installing everything (including grub) to the bootloader , you should press ctrl-U after you power on the machine to choose between the boot devices [16:38] knightwse, I can pretty much see I have two options.. [16:39] 1, use a separate external memory card, which I can d no problem, I guess (but only 32gb) , or two.. [16:41] 2, secondly, Someone can tell me how to install the OS to the USB that I am installing from on the side of the chromebook,, i.e. which external partition option ? perhaps I'm missing something as I purposely bought the Kinston 64GB to use as and extrnal USB Ubuntu stick, . Am I wrong in that respect ? [16:42] There is a third option [16:42] you see , I dren't muck this up a second time. [16:42] *daren't [16:42] install the OS to your USB stick as a live system and make it persistent [16:43] That's exactly what I'm trying to do. [16:43] that way you run it off the usb stick ...; and don't have to bother to install it TO the usb stick [16:43] How do I do that on windows ? [16:43] you have the iso of the distro right ? [16:43] (my second machine). [16:43] yes. [16:43] unetbootin ! [16:44] that doesn't work .. only Win32 Drisk Imager. [16:44] *Disk Imager [16:44] (I've ried twice). [16:45] *Tried. [16:45] win32diskimager should be able to do the trick ? [16:45] what distro do you want to use ? [16:45] but it just loads to the install option .. not the full installation, I think .. or am I missing something .. perhaps another look at my albumn , no ? [16:46] what distro are you installing ? [16:46] https://www.distroshare.com/distros/get/12/ [16:46]