[04:08] <rick_h_> evening
[05:27] <cmaloney> lo
[13:25] <jrwren> morning
[14:32] <cmaloney> Good morning
[15:15] <mrgoodcat> morning
[15:16] <mrgoodcat> just heard a student tell another student "you don't need to know any of this if you're going into java" in my databasing class
[15:16] <mrgoodcat> my head desk'd so hard
[16:26] <greg-g> cmaloney: on the upswing of sickness now
[16:27] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: What was that they didn't need to know?
[16:27] <cmaloney> greg-g: Awesome! :)
[16:27] <mrgoodcat> anything from this class
[16:27] <mrgoodcat> apparently java devs don't need databases
[16:27] <cmaloney> Really? Such as?
[16:27] <cmaloney> Well, it's a real pain in the ass to get Java to do anything with Databases. ;)
[16:27] <mrgoodcat> yea but good luck making something useful without one lol
[16:27] <cmaloney> JDBC is a 4 letter word
[16:28] <brousch> The bastards removed the odbc-jdbc bridge from java 8
[16:29] <brousch> I have literally 1 java program here. It uses that
[16:29] <cmaloney> brousch: Someone took that seriously?
[16:29] <cmaloney> odbc is another 4 letter word.
[16:29] <brousch> It worked
[16:29] <brousch> It worked without me touching it twice a day for like 6 years
[16:30] <cmaloney> brousch: it might be that I'm not Windows enough to want to use those things
[16:30] <brousch> Sometimes all you have is odbc on windows
[16:30] <cmaloney> Any time I played with ODBC it felt like magic when it worked
[16:30] <brousch> I use pypyodbc now
[16:31] <cmaloney> magic in the sense that anything I did to accidentally change it would somehow cause the whole thing to spin apart and leave a crater where my machine once sood
[16:31] <cmaloney> stoof
[16:31] <cmaloney> stood
[16:31] <cmaloney> apparently I can't typo
[16:31] <cmaloney> ;)
[23:41] <jrwren> cscheib: i never got a PACZKI
[23:42] <jrwren> brousch: why pypyodbc? no native driver for you?
[23:56] <brousch> jrwren: foxpro db