| GeekDude | Crazy issue, but the graphics stack crashes when I go to the chrome download page in firefox | 00:20 |
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| holstein | GeekDude: odd.. not sure that thats a "stack" issue.. | 00:21 |
| holstein | interestingly enough, that happened to me on a windows vista machine i had just wiped and setup fresh the other day.. i grabbed the installer on another machine.. | 00:22 |
| GeekDude | I forget what I did | 00:22 |
| GeekDude | wget I think | 00:22 |
| Unit193 | Perhaps view the logs in /var/log/Xorg.0.log /var/log/lightdm/* and ~/.cache/upstart/startxfce4.log? | 00:23 |
| Unit193 | https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb though :P | 00:24 |
| GeekDude | For some reason the computer keeps saying "system program problem detected" as well | 00:25 |
| Unit193 | Likely because a crash log in /var/crash/ | 00:27 |
| holstein | GeekDude: when tryihng to run the installer deb? | 00:27 |
| GeekDude | just browsing to the page in firefox | 00:27 |
| GeekDude | I'd do some tests but I'm currently running apt-get upgrade | 00:28 |
| holstein | right.. as i said, i had that *same* issue in an older version of vista that had not been patched up and updated | 00:28 |
| holstein | i assumed it was flash related, or something on the page that the browser didnt render, or like to or understand nhow to render | 00:28 |
| holstein | i didnt report it to google.. | 00:29 |
| GeekDude | oh, you mean the "system program problem detected" issue | 00:29 |
| GeekDude | I installed chrome a long time ago | 00:29 |
| GeekDude | this computer has just been sitting powered off for the last few months | 00:30 |
| GeekDude | I turned it on and got that popup twice | 00:30 |
| GeekDude | then got it again just now | 00:30 |
| holstein | sure.. so, it could be *anything*.. though, my first step,since its been offline, would be the update | 00:31 |
| GeekDude | That's what I'm doing now | 00:31 |
| GeekDude | I figured it couldn't hurt :p | 00:32 |
| holstein | then, i would test the hard drive and other components.. | 00:32 |
| GeekDude | I finished the apt-get upgrade and rebooted | 00:35 |
| GeekDude | when I turned it back on I got that system program problem detected again | 00:35 |
| GeekDude | this time I also got a "Sorry, ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error", it says the error is with /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume | 00:36 |
| holstein | sure.. what problem? i get those messages all the time with ubuntu mate 14.04.. i read, filed what was necessary, and disabled the poppups | 00:36 |
| holstein | i would grab the exact error and try searching | 00:37 |
| elfy | also remove the crash report from /var/crash if you're not doing any more with it | 00:37 |
| elfy | if the report is sitting there I think it will keep trying | 00:37 |
| holstein | yup ^ | 00:38 |
| elfy | running the *next* version I've aliased it ... | 00:38 |
| GeekDude | I'll get openssh-server installed and copy it over here to my computer | 00:38 |
| GeekDude | This is from the only file in /var/crash https://gist.github.com/66e188bc05521be21e35 | 00:42 |
| GeekDude | I'm not opposed to just reformatting the system if you think it'd help | 00:44 |
| elfy | so let it report - if it's a dupe then it should ask you if you want to 'me too' existing | 00:44 |
| * GeekDude runs sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 00:50 | |
| holstein | thats my regular routine.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" | 00:50 |
| GeekDude | well, I was kind of tied up with getting crash logs to finish updating | 00:51 |
| holstein | yeah. its cool, its just that there may be a patch applied that addresses soemthing | 00:52 |
| GeekDude | well, no crashes so far | 00:55 |
| GeekDude | firefox still crashes the graphics though | 00:56 |
| holstein | crashes the graphics? | 00:56 |
| GeekDude | yeah | 00:56 |
| holstein | try and isolate flash and other variables.. | 00:56 |
| GeekDude | Well, I first noticed this issue on a clean install a few months ago | 00:57 |
| GeekDude | holstein: The symptoms of the | 01:01 |
| GeekDude | "crash" are that I can't see what's happening until I fool around with changing the VT and opening/closing the laptop lid | 01:01 |
| holstein | right, but whats the cause? i have a fresh install of vista, that is quite out of date.. it crashed on some web content, but, i expected that | 01:02 |
| GeekDude | /var/log/Xorg.0.log says "Detected a hung GPU, disabling acceleration" | 01:02 |
| holstein | you mean, just opening firefox crashes the graphics? | 01:03 |
| GeekDude | and to include /sys/class/drm/card0/error and the full dmesg | 01:03 |
| holstein | you can try disbling or enabling acceleration.. | 01:03 |
| GeekDude | holstein: opening firefox and browsing to http://google.com/chrome | 01:03 |
| holstein | ah.. what content is at that page, though? can you look? and see what is creating the issue? i would use another browser to view the elements | 01:04 |
| GeekDude | Well, they have a fancy 3d javascript display | 01:04 |
| holstein | i bet | 01:05 |
| GeekDude | ok, graphics aren't crashing anymore but firefox still is | 01:05 |
| holstein | but, if you dont have a "fancy 3d javascript ready" browser, then, you may get crashes, or breakage | 01:05 |
| holstein | for me, i would just wget the deb, if i need it | 01:05 |
| holstein | i wouldnt bother with making my firefox compatible with that one page.. | 01:05 |
| GeekDude | I've already got chrome and it works fine on that page | 01:06 |
| holstein | there are a lot of changes and updates coming for technologies.. | 01:06 |
| holstein | no need to try and make firefox compatible with a page you dont really need access to | 01:06 |
| GeekDude | Well, I was just kind of curious | 01:06 |
| GeekDude | it leaves a bad impression | 01:06 |
| holstein | of? | 01:07 |
| GeekDude | Xubuntu, at the least | 01:07 |
| knome | wow. now you lost me in the thought process... | 01:07 |
| holstein | yeah? but, xubuntu is not responsible for any of the stuff there.. not the page, or firefox code.. etc | 01:07 |
| GeekDude | Doesn't leave a bad impression on me, but it left somewhat of an impression on my father | 01:08 |
| holstein | i mean, if google wants to push the limits, then, they'll get pushed, and some things get left behind | 01:08 |
| GeekDude | he thinks it's some kind of anti-google conspiracy by mozilla | 01:08 |
| knome | so what has that got to do with xubuntu? | 01:08 |
| holstein | GeekDude: so what if it is.. they make competing products.. | 01:08 |
| GeekDude | Xorg.0.log https://gist.github.com/928804c1390a1de6f0d0 and the specified file https://gist.github.com/b2441db5253591eea993 and dmesg https://gist.github.com/d74a6db4b529b1563560 | 01:16 |
| GeekDude | in case anyone wants to look through them | 01:17 |
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| xubuntu45w | How can I upgrade the official kernel of Xubunto ( 3.13) to 3.16? | 01:26 |
| Unit193 | You can't upgrade the official kernel of Xubuntu to 3.16. | 01:29 |
| Unit193 | Oh right, hwe. | 01:44 |
| eikon81g | Is there anyone available to take a question regarding an issue in Ubuntu 14.10 and Xfce regarding the volume buttons (fn+vol up /dn/mute) | 02:47 |
| eikon81g | ? | 02:47 |
| bluesabre | eikon81g: what's your question? | 02:58 |
| eikon81g | thanks I will copy paste what I had written out.. | 02:58 |
| eikon81g | I am using Ubuntu 14.10 with xfce and when I was running unity my volume controls on the keyboard (fn + vol up / fn + vol dn / fn + mute) worked fine but after the xfce install (or so I think) the volume buttons quit working. I did some research and I have the Indicator plugin running to make volume adjustments which works fine but I'd like to have my buttons available to use. After researching some I saw that there are bug repo | 03:00 |
| eikon81g | <eikon81g> rts in place already for this issue but I was unable to get my buttons working again after following a few of the fixes that were posted in the ubuntu forums. I don't recall the exact commands but they had to do with resetting pule info in a .dconf file I believe.. I may need to do some more research / investigating but I figured this would be a good avenue to get going in the right direction.. Thanks in advance | 03:00 |
| eikon81g | thanks bluesabre btw.. | 03:01 |
| Unit193 | (My idea was either to install the xubuntu task to make sure he's not missing settingsd or something, or try a live image from the Xubuntu website to see if it has the same issues.) | 03:03 |
| bluesabre | that's probably the way to go... there can be conflicting things when running alongside unity, something other than xfce may have claimed the keybindings for your volume buttons | 03:04 |
| eikon81g | Live image? Like a bootable usb of the distro? | 03:04 |
| Unit193 | eikon81g: Right, a clean slate so to speak. | 03:04 |
| eikon81g | ok I see what you are saying there.. So try running a live image of xubuntu standalone. test the key functions and if they work properly then the issue lies in a setting that has more or less been over-run? | 03:05 |
| bluesabre | you can also install the "xubuntu-desktop" package and when logging in make sure to select the "Xubuntu Session" session | 03:05 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^ if you please. ;) | 03:06 |
| bluesabre | yeah, that :) | 03:06 |
| eikon81g | ah ha. I can do that : ) | 03:06 |
| bluesabre | I usually don't help out in the support channel | 03:06 |
| bluesabre | :) | 03:06 |
| eikon81g | well I appreciate it (both of ya) | 03:06 |
| rww | ^ makes it install the task, not the metapackage, right? | 03:06 |
| Unit193 | rww: Right. Bad things™ happen with just the package, it'll miss things. | 03:07 |
| eikon81g | >> eikon81g@eikon81g-MM061:~$ sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 03:07 |
| eikon81g | [sudo] password for eikon81g: | 03:07 |
| eikon81g | Reading package lists... Done | 03:07 |
| eikon81g | Building dependency tree | 03:07 |
| eikon81g | Reading state information... Done | 03:07 |
| eikon81g | xubuntu-desktop is already the newest version. | 03:07 |
| eikon81g | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded. | 03:07 |
| bluesabre | Unit193, rww: ah, now I've learned something :) | 03:08 |
| eikon81g | so were there any changes? (I am pretty much a noob on Linux) so sorryu | 03:08 |
| eikon81g | metapackage? Oh man I have a lot to learn | 03:09 |
| eikon81g | fml I just got assigned BATH duty with the kiddo I am going to hang around and if you guys are still here and available I will be back If not I will keep cruising. You don't know how much it means to get some top notch support like this. I really appreciate it and I promise if I could avoid leaving right now I totally would.. BrB | 03:10 |
| Unit193 | eikon81g: You already have the metapackage, can you try 'xubuntu-desktop^' rather than 'xubuntu-desktop'? Also, might be good to check if there are any unity or gnome components running that could interfere. | 03:12 |
| bluesabre | eikon81g: I need to head out now as well. Be sure to try switching sessions in the login screen and select the Xubuntu session, it may resolve the issue... otherwise you can get a clearer picture with a live image as previously suggested | 03:12 |
| Unit193 | Right, exactly what he said. | 03:12 |
| eikon81g | kk I will get on this asap thanks a million yall | 03:13 |
| eikon81g | I am back at it (if you guys are still here..) the command with the ^ ran and it made some changes .. | 04:06 |
| eikon81g | Once it runs do I need to restart? | 04:07 |
| eikon81g | restarting.. be back soon | 04:10 |
| eikon81g | well no dice after restart using the command with ^ included.. | 04:15 |
| Dave42 | hea all | 04:47 |
| Dave42 | need help how do i fix the black screen bug in 14.10 | 04:48 |
| pleia2 | if you apply all updates it should go away | 04:50 |
| Dave42 | i did | 04:51 |
| eikon81g | !log | 04:53 |
| ubottu | Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. | 04:53 |
| Dave42 | so what do i now then to fix it | 04:54 |
| eikon81g | did you install the video drivers specific to your hardware? (just wondering) I am really not qualified to help but I like to learn | 04:56 |
| Dave42 | let me look | 04:56 |
| eikon81g | there is a terminal command that I used, my machine has an nvidia chipset | 04:57 |
| Dave42 | says no drivers available | 04:57 |
| eikon81g | http://www.tecmint.com/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-10/ | 04:58 |
| eikon81g | it has a section like halfway down about installing the closed source drivers.. | 04:58 |
| eikon81g | do you know what video hardware you have? | 04:58 |
| eikon81g | Like I said I am far from proficient I just wanted to try to help :\ I may not be doing much sorry.. | 04:59 |
| Dave42 | ati card | 04:59 |
| eikon81g | For AMD graphics card, “Radeon” is the open-source driver and it’s installed by default in Ubuntu 14.10 as well, but if you want to install the closed-source driver, you will have to run. | 05:00 |
| eikon81g | $ sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle | 05:00 |
| eikon81g | so that may help some issues.. but there may be more to it.. | 05:01 |
| Dave42 | ok | 05:02 |
| eikon81g | when does the issue happen? After you come back from sleep or? | 05:02 |
| Dave42 | doing it right now | 05:02 |
| eikon81g | ok you will want to restart afterwards and then try to re-create the issue once you boot back up.. | 05:02 |
| Dave42 | the monitor just goes to sleep after a few minutes | 05:02 |
| eikon81g | right is there acpi settings in your bios that could be triggering it? | 05:03 |
| Dave42 | dotn think so | 05:04 |
| eikon81g | I'd look into the power settings on your hardware as well just to make sure there is not a setting in there.. | 05:04 |
| eikon81g | just a thought. No problem | 05:04 |
| Dave42 | where would that be at | 05:05 |
| eikon81g | in the bios it really depends is it a laptop or a desktop | 05:05 |
| eikon81g | ? | 05:05 |
| Dave42 | desktop | 05:05 |
| eikon81g | ok so in the BIOS there may be a selection for ACPI or Power settings and I'd look for anything that says sleep or hibernate | 05:06 |
| eikon81g | disable those if they are there.. | 05:06 |
| eikon81g | again just another troubleshooting step eventually you will narrow it down.. I may not be the one to lead you there directly but as you troubleshoot we may stumble on it or someone may read what we've done and get to the issue directly | 05:07 |
| eikon81g | are you on the machine now? | 05:07 |
| Dave42 | yes | 05:08 |
| Dave42 | want me to restart? | 05:09 |
| eikon81g | if you did the graphics driver install I would.. did the terminal complete the install? | 05:10 |
| Dave42 | yes | 05:10 |
| eikon81g | ok yea, I would restart and see if that fixed it. How long does it take for your monitor to go to sleep? Is it always happening at a set increment? | 05:10 |
| Dave42 | a few minutes | 05:11 |
| eikon81g | so you just leave the machine up and when you come back from being away and the screen just wont turn back on.. you just have to hold the power button to reboot it right? | 05:13 |
| Dave42 | move the mouse or touch teh spacebar and it comes back | 05:13 |
| eikon81g | did you read the bug notes? | 05:14 |
| eikon81g | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1283938 | 05:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1283938 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Samsung NP535U4X-S01TH] Ubuntu 14.04 blank screen after wakeup from sleep" [Medium,Incomplete] | 05:14 |
| eikon81g | oh that is the 14.04 bug my fault | 05:15 |
| Dave42 | ok i install teh ati drivers so i just have to restart and it should go away huh | 05:16 |
| eikon81g | it may fix it.. | 05:17 |
| remline | ..."Have you mooed today?"... | 05:20 |
| kblin | hi folks | 10:11 |
| kblin | I have a fun issue with my graphics sometimes resetting to an old state (eg. at login time), which then requires forcing the screen to redraw to see my windows again | 10:12 |
| kblin | any idea what could be causing this? | 10:13 |
| kblin | it's happening occasionally, but today it's really, really annoying | 10:13 |
| cfhowlett | kblin, desktop/laptop? | 10:19 |
| kblin | cfhowlett: desktop | 10:24 |
| cfhowlett | kblin, most likely suspects given a sudden appearance of this problem: graphics card failing or card isn't seated properly. | 10:24 |
| cfhowlett | kblin, if a long-standing problem: gpu drivers | 10:25 |
| kblin | I've seen this again and again, so I also suspect the drivers | 10:26 |
| kblin | It's on an nvidia card, running nouveau drivers | 10:26 |
| kblin | basically what ubuntu installed, I didn't do anything with it | 10:27 |
| kblin | but I'm also not offered to install the binary divers | 10:27 |
| kblin | I also suspect it's related to browser tabs running flash, so I have the hunch it's more the 2d drawing code | 10:31 |
| kblin | I'll try installing them manually | 10:33 |
| cfhowlett | kblin, sounds like a plan. | 10:34 |
| kblin | just have a long-running compute job going at the moment that'll take a couple of more days to finish, but I guess I'll have to cope | 10:34 |
| kblin | hmm, or it's acting up if I have LibreOffice open | 10:34 |
| cfhowlett | kblin, when you see graphics glitches across apps like that = hardware or drivers issue. | 10:35 |
| kblin | well, it's xorg that glitches | 10:35 |
| kblin | but yes, I guess it's a driver issue | 10:35 |
| cfhowlett | :) or that ... | 10:35 |
| kblin | it's just weird that jockey doesn't even offer to install the nvidia binary driver | 10:36 |
| cfhowlett | kblin, hey, more eyes available in #ubuntu | 10:36 |
| kblin | right, but then I'll just get into discussions on how xfce is the reason and I should be using that annoying new ubuntu thing instead, whatever it was called | 10:37 |
| cfhowlett | LOL, yeah we do sometimes get a bit myopic over there. | 10:37 |
| kblin | I mean, I'm also pretty sure that this isn't an XFCE issue, but I've had too many of those discussions | 10:38 |
| cfhowlett | kblin, completely understandable | 10:38 |
| kblin | I'm not entirely fond of xfce, I really liked the way gnome 2 worked | 10:39 |
| kblin | but as that's pretty dead, xfce is the least annoying variant I found | 10:39 |
| kblin | and in the end of the day, I want to get my work done, not fiddle with desktop environments | 10:40 |
| cfhowlett | kblin, there is ubuntu-gnome official flavor | 10:41 |
| kblin | right, but that's gnome3, which also goes for this "let's not give the user any reasobable way to configure the look&feel" philosophy | 10:42 |
| elfy | maybe mate - that's likely to be official soon | 10:43 |
| kblin | might give that a try once it is | 10:47 |
| jatt | I don't seen much difference between gnome 2 and xfce they work very similaar | 11:14 |
| skinofstars | hey all. does xubuntu use lightdm? | 11:46 |
| slickymasterWork | yes skinofstars | 11:47 |
| skinofstars | slickymasterWork: thanks | 11:47 |
| slickymasterWork | np | 11:48 |
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| eikon81g | Bluesabre: are you around? | 16:23 |
| * sidi sends a squad of rabid squirrels to bluesabre's house to wake him up | 16:24 | |
| eikon81g | lol I was working with him a lilttle last night on an issue.. got a good lead from him and unit193 I just wanted to thank them : ) | 16:24 |
| sidi | ah thats very kind of you | 16:24 |
| sidi | I'll cancel the squirrels then | 16:25 |
| eikon81g | Loll | 16:25 |
| sidi | i'll tell them when i see them on | 16:25 |
| eikon81g | Well it was the least I could do. Thank you.. I figured I may end up needing more help down the line, ya know.. | 16:25 |
| eikon81g | thanks | 16:25 |
| sidi | :-) | 16:25 |
| sidi | no worries | 16:25 |
| sidi | you can also help by advocating Xfce and FOSS, reporting bugs you encounter, etc :-) | 16:26 |
| sidi | anyway | 16:26 |
| * sidi goes back to work | 16:26 | |
| eikon81g | will do | 16:27 |
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| eikon81g | Hello all I had a question about the Xubuntu 14.10 Live distro.. | 19:14 |
| holstein | eikon81g: sure.. ask.. maybe a volunteer can answer | 19:15 |
| eikon81g | I am testing out the functions and they are working great but I have one issue with the boot time. I have been running Ubuntu 14.10 with Xfce installed and it was pretty quick but I was having issues with the hard volume keys on my machine | 19:16 |
| eikon81g | thanks holstein | 19:16 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopSpecialKeys is what i would refer to | 19:16 |
| eikon81g | Everything is running fine on the live distro but the boot time is excruciating. Probably 7+minutes to load up | 19:16 |
| eikon81g | I will check that out holstein | 19:17 |
| holstein | the "boot time" will be different when installed.. though, if something is hanging, due to misconfiguration, or bad/failing hardware, who knows | 19:17 |
| Unit193 | Remove quiet splash from the boot options to see what. | 19:17 |
| holstein | i will install, and update.. and use the most up to date software, and test and isolate | 19:17 |
| eikon81g | Ok is there a log that I can look at? someone was saying var/??.log | 19:18 |
| holstein | yup ^ you can see what is posting with the quietsplash option | 19:18 |
| Unit193 | /var/log/boot.log | 19:18 |
| holstein | eikon81g: sure, but, for me, i would want to simply remove the live iso from the equation, since, its not going to run live, and, i would want to apply "updates" as see if a "Fix" is there | 19:18 |
| eikon81g | ok. I will go with that so I may just dive in and do the full install check the boot time and if it is slow then I will run the quietsplash option | 19:19 |
| eikon81g | one other thing this machine uses "SpeedStep" and that option is in my bios is that ubuntu friendly? | 19:19 |
| eikon81g | thanks Unit193 as well you guys are great :) | 19:19 |
| holstein | eikon81g: try disabling it.. if they company wants to faciliate "ubuntu friendly" they can.. if not, try setting options in the bios and see what happens | 19:20 |
| eikon81g | right on I was just checking with the brains of the operation to see if there were any users who had improvements or what not with this hardware and that setting. | 19:21 |
| holstein | eikon81g: dont know what hardware you have, but, i have disabled that in the bios, as well as other "features" to faciliate installing an operating system the hardware didnt promise support for, specifically | 19:23 |
| eikon81g | ok cool. I didn't want to disable it since it is "working" (from what I can tell) so if I wont lose any speed in doing so then I will probably take that oout of the equation as well | 19:24 |
| eikon81g | I was downloading the system profiler and benchmark software as we speak to double check some stuff as well | 19:25 |
| holstein | i would read about what "speed step" is, and does.. disabling it likely will disable CPU scaling, and not make the machine any slower | 19:25 |
| holstein | might, in fact, make it faster.. or cause it to use moree battery.. you'l have to test and isolate and see.. | 19:25 |
| eikon81g | gotcha holstein I will digg in a little. I really appreciate the assistance | 19:26 |
| holstein | eikon81g: sure.. welcome | 19:26 |
| eikon81g | I was looking at the boot.log to see if I can see any obvious issues with the boot what usually designates an issue or can you tell what processes are taking the longest (sorry all just learning all the ins and out's I'll get better) | 19:29 |
| holstein | well, i would first get a normal boot happening..otherwise, you are using older packages, and booting live | 19:29 |
| eikon81g | ah ha this makes sense. LOL I will go that route and pick back up if there are issues. | 19:31 |
| holstein | eikon81g: well, you should backup becuase *all* hard drives will fail.. you should make backups regardless, and ASAP | 19:32 |
| eikon81g | will do, I am experimenting with a few setups at the moment and so far I am a fan of the Xubuntu appearance so I may just scrap my last install and run this one fresh | 19:33 |
| * eikon81g bows graciously to holstein and unit193 | 19:35 | |
| eikon81g | Thanks again, I'll be back after I tinker.. :) | 19:35 |
| holstein | eikon81g: cheers | 19:35 |
| eikon81g | later | 19:36 |
| thoffmeyer | ill see if I can find a pic | 20:58 |
| eikon81g | hey holstein are you around? | 21:00 |
| holstein | eikon81g: yup | 21:04 |
| eikon81g | Sorry I was chatting in the other room about what we were talking about earlier (SpeedStep) I wasn't sure my processor was running at the right speed but it turns out it's fine | 21:15 |
| eikon81g | I was gonna ask you since you said you run a similar one. I think I got it. | 21:16 |
| eikon81g | Sorry to bug :\ | 21:16 |
| holstein | no worries | 21:16 |
| holstein | its just scaling, AFAIK | 21:16 |
| holstein | i remember disabling it when i had it, so it would perform at full speed | 21:16 |
| eikon81g | that's what I was thinking because this machine runs plugged in so to me the power saving isn't worth the loss of speed | 21:17 |
| eikon81g | they said to leave it on and in my research earlier it said that Ubuntu could work with speed step fine so I was on the ence i may do what we were talking about and just run with it off to see what changes | 21:18 |
| eikon81g | they said to leave it on and in my research earlier it said that Ubuntu could work with speed step fine so I was on the fence i may do what we were talking about and just run with it off to see what changes | 21:19 |
| eikon81g | Weird, idk why my chat line got cut in half but sorry about that. | 21:19 |
| holstein | eikon81g: it literally wont hurt. i test with it off, *if* iim experiencing boot issues.. but, you are not certain of that yet | 21:24 |
| Cold_Inz | Hello, was wondering if someone could help me understand why xfce becomes so slow in response on menus and programs after idle 15mins+, disappears right after, it's like the first click or action, but it's very annoying. I've checked all I know, and google says alotta things, and I've tried most. glxgears says videodrivers are fine, tried putting gtk-2.0 file with info in home directory, and putting down swappiness usage to 10 (I have 1gb ram | 21:24 |
| Cold_Inz | ). Any ideas? | 21:24 |
| * eikon81g watches intently | 21:25 | |
| Cold_Inz | Using 14.04 | 21:26 |
| holstein | Cold_Inz: has this always been happening? have you run other versions of the linux kernel? have you tried with other drivers like forcing a vesa driver? what GPU drivers are you using? | 21:26 |
| === xubuntu is now known as Guest3473 | ||
| Guest3473 | what a beautiful distribution! | 21:27 |
| Guest3473 | I think I will install xubuntu on my pc | 21:27 |
| eikon81g | Guest3473 I've been enjoying it. Totally worth it | 21:28 |
| Cold_Inz | tried lxde for abit, didn't notice it there. have tried other themes and such, no luck. this is a dell latitude d620, so integrated intel card I think, using the driver that xubuntu preferred | 21:28 |
| Guest3473 | I tried Lxde on my netbook as well | 21:28 |
| Guest3473 | I mean, lxde is installed on my netbook | 21:28 |
| holstein | Cold_Inz: have you tried specifically disabling compositing? | 21:28 |
| Guest3473 | but I don't really like it | 21:28 |
| Cold_Inz | Yes, tried disabling, no luck. | 21:29 |
| holstein | Cold_Inz: so, you didnt "noticet" it? in lxde? in 14.04? on the same hardware? and install? | 21:29 |
| holstein | Cold_Inz: what i would do is isolate, and try and see where the issue is coming from.. i would isolate my installed OS by running a live iso, that i know supported the hardware well in the past.. and i would try and test with the officially supported operating sytem as well, to see if the hardware is funcitoning properly | 21:30 |
| holstein | i would do a smart test, and memory test.. and i would run as another user, as well.. the guest account, for example, would bypass my user config | 21:30 |
| xubuntu04w | hi | 21:32 |
| Cold_Inz | remember that this is only after some minutes idle, the response is slow in menus and programs on first action, then it's back to normal, so it's hard to think that it's the hardwares fault | 21:32 |
| xubuntu04w | hi | 21:33 |
| xubuntu04w | how to adjust the brightness of the display? | 21:33 |
| holstein | Cold_Inz: sure, but, testing will show you that thats not the case | 21:33 |
| holstein | Cold_Inz: so, i would make a list, and work through it.. tryng to look at logs and messages as well.. | 21:33 |
| eikon81g | I installed the nvidia specific video drivers and now when I boot I noticed that the splash screen (I think it's called) is now just a black screen with Xubuntu 14.10 in white with a . . . below it instead of the normal Blue Xubuntu screen I was used to | 22:27 |
| eikon81g | I don't think it's an issue but is there some way to tweak the Nvidia setings to get the original splash screen back? | 22:28 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | yes | 22:28 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | but, it's not the nvidia settings | 22:28 |
| eikon81g | I was hoping so.. Also the Nvidia logo screen flashes up during boot and returning from sleep | 22:29 |
| eikon81g | Ok thanks Poisoned I appreciate your help | 22:29 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | just search for plymouth nvidia fix, in google | 22:31 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | many different paths. | 22:31 |
| Poisoned_Dragon | generally the same. there may be subtle differences. | 22:31 |
| eikon81g | okie dokie thanks for the direction. I will do my best :) | 22:31 |
| * eikon81g gives thumbs up | 22:31 | |
| eikon81g | tyvm | 22:31 |
| * Poisoned_Dragon does success kid fist pump. | 22:32 | |
| eikon81g | I just got assigned a task so I'll be back in a bit | 22:34 |
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