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pittiGood morning04:25
mlankhorstmorning06:20
didrocksmorning07:02
pittibonjour didrocks07:03
pittihey mlankhorst07:03
pittididrocks: FYI, currently merging ubuntu's systemd with debian exp; I took your latest fsck patches while I was at it07:04
didrocksbonjour pitti !07:06
seb128good morning desktopers!07:06
didrockspitti: oh nice :)07:06
seb128hey didrocks pitti07:06
didrockshey seb12807:06
seb128wie gehts?07:06
pittibonjour seb128 ! très bien, merci ! et toi ?07:06
didrockspitti: I redid a small test before reposting the patches and retry Control+C with current distro plymouth, but with plymouth-x1107:07
seb128pitti, très bien merci ;-)07:07
darkxsthey pitti, seb128, didrocks07:13
pittididrocks: oh, these need some rebasing to 219, I'm afraid07:13
pittihey darkxst07:13
seb128hey darkxst07:14
pittididrocks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10286331/07:14
didrockshey darkxst07:14
pittididrocks: strappenda() is now strjoina(); the progress_rc warning is probably harmless07:15
darkxstdidrocks, grilo-plugins split is done, just sitting in NEW atm07:15
didrockspitti: argh, ok, will have a look07:15
didrocksdarkxst: piloting this afternoon, so doing this07:15
didrockspitti: mind if I do that this in a couple of hours?07:15
pittididrocks: not at all; it's a trivial fix in our patches, not blocking me07:16
seb128didrocks, pitti, did you hear back from slangasek about the systemd work he's supposed to do?07:16
pittino, I didn't :/07:16
didrockspitti: ok, I'll rebase. I hope that this is last time (but wonder why it wasn't warned on the ML, afraid this is going to be stalled as there is no more comment, but nothing happened, even telling it doesn't apply)07:16
didrocksseb128: same :/07:16
darkxstdidrocks, ok thanks07:17
pittididrocks: let me finish that build first, then I'll let you know if that was the only thing07:17
didrockspitti: thanks :)07:17
* didrocks finishes backlog07:17
didrocksthen ubuntu make release, fsck and sponsoring + MIR07:17
darkxstseb128, will you be ok to update baobab and gnome-contacts to 3.14 after FF?07:21
darkxstI will make titlebar patches but wont be for a week atleast07:21
pittididrocks: ok, just http://paste.ubuntu.com/10286467/ and some noise in the *.po files07:27
didrockspitti: great! thanks a lot, I'll rebase on master and reapply07:29
seb128darkxst, wfm, as long as you have patches for the headerbars07:38
seb128well, assuming that they didn't redo the UI in a way that makes it not fit with other desktops07:38
seb128or that they did drop half of the features07:38
darkxstseb128, headerbar patches should be easy enough07:38
darkxstmaybe you can give a quick check of 3.14 UI's07:39
darkxstboth will be on gnome3 ppa for vivid07:39
darkxstI think gnome-contacts is mostly the same07:39
seb128k07:39
darkxstbaobab has some tweaks to layout,07:39
Noskcajdarkxst, Has someone done the dep changes for the grilo-plugins split or should i?07:56
darkxstNoskcaj, I did it07:57
Noskcajok07:57
NoskcajDid that include suggests?07:58
darkxstsuggests for what?07:58
Noskcajgrilo07:58
darkxstwhy?07:59
NoskcajIt would be nice to point it to the new package rather than the old one07:59
NoskcajAlso, there's a new grilo release upstream08:00
darkxstNoskcaj, oh you mean packages that suggest grilo-plugins?08:00
Noskcajyes08:00
darkxstI only did gnome-music and gnome-online-miners08:01
darkxstif there are others with suggests feel free to do those08:01
NoskcajI'll include the fix with the update to grilo08:02
darkxstok08:02
pittimmmh, les derniers beignets -- un bon petit-déjeuner :)08:13
seb128pitti, huuuum, beignets, miam :-)08:15
* pitti hands one to seb12808:15
seb128pitti, merci !08:15
* didrocks didn't know about that new technology08:16
didrocksBOS? beignets as a service?08:16
didrocksBAS*08:16
didrocksis that UDP/TCP based?08:16
* pitti hides his python-weechat-snackmsg package08:16
didrocks:)08:16
larsudidrocks: BAAS08:16
didrocks;)08:16
pittipah, *AAS is the new -Kit, isn't it08:17
pittido we have Service as a Service yet?08:17
didrockspitti: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f88bc87a-0e4b-11e2-8b92-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3S5BYAf5q08:17
pittididrocks: ah, I knew someone had this thought before me :)08:18
didrocks:)08:18
pittihere go my dreams of funding a $1B company08:18
pitti"founding" (ugh)08:18
seb128lol08:18
pittithat's probably the most expensive typo you can ever make in economics :)08:19
didrocksahah08:19
didrockspitti: if you want to practice your french, when you have time (really, click on every links), you have the la-rache methodology, and maybe you can give advice on it, pretty popular methodology in computer science: http://byatoo.com/la-rache08:21
didrocksmaybe we should drop scrum and go on "la rache"08:21
didrocks"Rapid Application Conception and Heuristic Extreme-programming"08:21
pittiah, that's not just la ROCHE ?08:22
didrockspitti: ahah, quite insulting to say I'm working at "la rache" :p08:22
didrockspitti: just some backgrounds: to do something à "l'arrache" (correct writings, coming from "arracher") is to botch something08:22
pittididrocks: oh, est-ce que c'est un mot français ?08:23
pittiah08:23
didrocks"faire à l'arrache" is, "la rache" isn't, but it sounds similar and hence this parodic website :)08:23
didrocks"can we deploy a prototype to production?" -> "No problem, it's La Rache compliant"08:26
didrocks"can we develop directly in production?" -> "No problem, it's La Rache compliant"08:27
pittididrocks: :) il semble que je dois lire cą :)08:27
didrockspitti: I'm sure you will love it :)08:28
Noskcajdarkxst, New grilo need vala 0.27, so we don't get to have it08:33
NoskcajCould you please upload the suggests change to save some time?08:33
Noskcajdidrocks, https://launchpad.net/~noskcaj/+archive/ubuntu/appstream-util/+packages if you get time08:36
didrocksNoskcaj: my patch politing is this afternoon for me, pending it08:37
Noskcaj:)08:37
didrocksNoskcaj: ok, so it's a package copy, simply, right?08:37
Noskcajyeah08:37
didrockswill do :)08:37
Noskcajthe gnome-system-monitor includes a version bump approved by Laney08:38
didrocksNoskcaj: for the one we were in sync with debian, did you send the patch back to debian BTS?08:38
didrocksI would appreciate to be back in sync next cycle08:39
Noskcajdidrocks, I'll send patches when debian unfreezes08:39
NoskcajMost of them are things i can access the debian vcs for anyway08:39
didrocksok, great!08:40
pittididrocks: OOI, does the control-c work in qemu for you? I tried with pressing 2 s08:40
didrockspitti: it never worked on qemu for me08:40
pittididrocks: ok, thanks08:41
didrockspitti: it does work on plymouth-x11, I didn't retry on boot, but I'm sure it did08:41
pittiI'll try 219-1ubuntu1 on my laptop next :)08:41
didrocks\o/08:41
didrockspitti: even a simple "c" press didn't work on qemu with plymouth… I have no idea what happens there08:41
pittididrocks: hm, ^C doesn't work on my laptop either, but I don't have plymouth-x1108:47
willcookemorning08:49
didrockspitti: argh, that's weird, it did for me, will try, but later, ETOOMUCHSTUFF already08:50
didrockspitti: it's exactly the same call that mountall did (would be interested to know if it works for you with plymouth-x11)08:50
didrockswillcooke: hey!08:50
pittididrocks: booting with upstart/mountall, 'c' works, yes08:50
pittididrocks: no biggie for now, don't worry08:51
didrockspitti: do you mind trying with plymouth-x11?08:52
didrockspitti: I'll retry rebooting… but later08:52
pittididrocks: can do in a bit (just running some snappy tests ATM)08:52
didrockspitti: I don't know if I retried with control+c at boot time or only on plymouth-x1108:52
didrockssince upstream asked to changed it08:52
didrocksso, that can be the difference08:53
didrocksanyway, will give it a shot08:53
pittididrocks: no luck with plymouth-x11 either; well, let's debug this later..08:59
darkxstNoskcaj, paste a debdiff09:00
darkxstNoskcaj, did you check why? or did they just bump vala to go with gtk 3.16?09:04
Laneyhullo09:05
didrockspitti: really? it does work here, let me retry…09:06
seb128hey Laney09:06
darkxsthey Laney09:07
didrocksmorning Laney09:08
didrockspitti: confirmed to work on plymouth-x11 here (just did a full rebuild with my latest patches, to ensure I don't have caches somewhere)09:21
didrockspitti: at least, it's failing in a consistent way for you, so I have hope :)09:21
didrocksclearly a qwerty vs azerty thing! :p09:22
pittididrocks: I thought it might be due to the USB keyboard, but the builtin one doesn't work either09:22
willcookeLaney, you might feel my pain...09:27
willcookeLaney, new kettle taste.09:27
Laneythe limescale blues?09:28
didrockspitti: tried as well with systemd-fsckd that you shipped in 218-10ubuntu1, works under plymouth-x11 for me09:31
didrockspitti: I wonder, are you using real fsck or the mock one?09:31
pittididrocks: the mock09:31
didrocksok, so not that fsck which doesn't want to die :/09:32
* didrocks is really puzzled09:32
pittididrocks: do you have plymouth in the initramfs? could that make a difference?09:32
didrockspitti: no, I kept the ubuntu standard setup. but even without that, it should have worked on your session with plytmouth-x1109:33
didrockspitti: you did try in your session to start plymouthd09:34
didrocksand the plymouth show-splash09:34
didrocksand that didn't work, right?09:34
willcookeLaney, the old kettle started to melt it was so clogged with limescale.  The new kettle tastes of, what I can only assume is, Morphy Richards' kettle factory, Morphy Richards Road.  China.09:40
pittididrocks: sorry? no, I never fiddled with the plymouth units or started them manually09:40
pittididrocks: I do see the plymouth graphical theme and the fsck progress messages (in both qemu and my laptop)09:41
didrockspitti: ah, so maybe when we are talking about plymouth-x11, you didn't try the same thing09:42
pittididrocks: no, I just installed that package and rebooted09:42
didrockspitti: and the issue is maybe only that Control+C would work on plymouth-x11 and not at boot09:42
didrocksah, maybe try this:09:42
didrockssudo plymouthd09:42
pittididrocks: I was wondering why p-x11 would have any effect09:42
didrockssudo plymouth show-splash09:42
didrocksand starts the systemd-fsckd service + a systemd-fsck /dev/sda for instance09:42
pittiah09:42
didrockspitti: as told, I tried the C cancel at boot, and it worked, I'm unsure that I retried with Control+C once I saw that plymouth-x11 supported it09:43
pittididrocks: ah nice, I never used plymouth that way :)09:45
pittididrocks: yep, that works fine, even in qemu09:45
didrockspitti: ok, so maybe Control+C, doesn't work the same way without plymouth-x11, I'll add some debugs09:46
didrocks(like doesn't send the same message back)09:46
didrockspitti: without plymouth-x11, iterating would have been crazy :p09:46
pittididrocks: for the protocol, for sure! nice trick09:47
didrockspitti: so yeah, I think I have to add debugs and reboots. Rebasing first and dealing with that next…09:47
pittididrocks: I would assume that somehow this ought to work in qemu too; iterating with real reboots is a no-go indeed09:47
* pitti hugs didrocks09:47
pittisuch a sticky thing that!09:47
didrockspitti: "c" worked for on plymouth boot, but never with qemu09:48
* didrocks hugs pitti back09:48
didrockshence I didn't think once I saw Control+C working with plymouth-x11, that it would give something different with plymouth boot…09:48
pittididrocks: just for the record, the grub menu works fine for me in qemu09:50
didrockspitti: I will keep you posted09:51
didrocksman pages as well are conflicting as they changed to 2 spaces10:15
didrocksgrumph :p10:15
seb128Laney, there is a new librsvg out that fixes security issue, do you want to do it in Debian and sync over or should I just do the update in Ubuntu?10:16
Laneyseb128: might as well do it ther10:21
Laneye10:21
seb128Laney, ok, as you want, thanks10:21
seb128I can't do it in Debian since I don't have a chroot or vm to build the binaries/test10:22
Laneyno worries, I do10:22
Laneycan you see the error here https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Vivid/view/AutoPkgTest/job/vivid-adt-gnome-photos/lastBuild/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/consoleFull ?10:23
pittiInvestigating (0) gnome-photos [ amd64 ] < none -> 3.14.2-1 > ( universe/gnome )10:23
pittiBroken gnome-photos:amd64 Depends on gnome-online-miners [ amd64 ] < none -> 3.14.0-2ubuntu1 > ( universe/gnome )10:23
pitti  Considering gnome-online-miners:amd64 1 as a solution to gnome-photos:amd64 -110:24
pitti  Holding Back gnome-photos:amd64 rather than change gnome-online-miners:amd6410:24
pittiLaney: ^10:24
pittiLaney: might just have been temporary uninstallability due to arch buildd desync? /me retries10:24
Laneypitti: I just did that10:25
Laneythe one I linked was a retry10:25
pittioh, it actually failed on all arches10:27
Laneyyup10:27
Laneyah I see this in a chroot10:27
pittiand yay for apt uninstallability errors being utterly incomprehensible10:28
pittiLaney: ah, you beat me to it then; just entering my vivid-proposed chroot :)10:28
Laneyneeds the grilo-plugins split in NEW10:28
Laneyapt could have told us this up front. :)10:29
* didrocks reboots10:34
didrockspitti: ok, so the printf I'm writing are seen as blob data by the journal, do you know how I can get the characters (not fluent in journalctl command)10:39
didrockshum, with -a it seems10:41
pittijournalctl -o verbose ?10:41
didrocksseems that plymouth issending something completely different… ^B:^A:10:41
didrocksdoesn't even match the protocol I saw with -x1110:41
pittididrocks: perhaps you should print them as %x instead of %c?10:41
didrockspitti: yeah, trying this10:42
didrocksbrb10:43
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didrockspitti: phew, got it!11:02
didrockspitti: so, I confirm, for Control+C, the protocol is different between plymouth at boot and plymouth-x1111:02
pittididrocks: wow! that was quick, considering that reboots and plymouth are involved..11:02
didrockspitti: well, not starting the whole session, browser, emails, helps :)11:02
didrocksonly a terminal, plymouth, systemd and I!11:02
didrocksso once fixing this, this won't work on plymouth-x1111:03
didrocksbut well, as this one is only for testing purpose… meh :)11:03
pittididrocks: ah, you can't easily do a cmd == ply_x11 _|| cmd == ply_system?11:04
pittididrocks: but yeah, no worries; that's not really important11:04
didrockspitti: should I? the thing is that on plymouth-x11, it both maps C and Control+C11:04
didrocksand seeing it not being used outside for testing…11:04
didrocksof*11:05
pittididrocks: yeah, please don't waste any time with it11:05
didrockspitti: ok, so rebase done, just introducing this fix and reposting11:05
didrocksok done, just doing a final full build to ensure that everything is all right + a real reboot test11:07
didrockspitti: all good, repushing the patches upstream rebased on master upstream11:16
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pittididrocks: \o/11:16
didrockspitti: think it's better on one email + all attachements or still separate?11:16
pittididrocks: still git-send-email, I think11:17
didrocksok11:18
pittiNoskcaj: looking at grilo-plugins -- that's missing a transitional package11:30
pittiNoskcaj: witout one, upgrades will cause trouble11:30
pittiNoskcaj: also, two -dbg packages, isn't that a bit excessive?11:30
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pittiLaney: ah, so glib is held by gnome-photos failure; want me to override, as it's quite obviously not glib's fault?13:04
Laneypitti: I'd rather see it fixed, but if not I can override myself13:05
desrti woke up at a good time13:06
desrtwhat's up?13:06
LaneyI think they deliberately decided not to use a transitional13:06
Laneyand just moved the two rdeps over13:06
pittiLaney: I've still seen enough upgrades where apt would rather hold back the old package instaed of removing it in favor of a new one13:07
pittiand the split ones don't even Provides: the old one13:07
pittiperhaps apt became more clever in the recent releases to also check if the package still exists in the index, and would adjust the penalty scores13:08
* desrt starts to get the impression that this is not an upstream issue ;)13:08
pittidesrt: not glib related at all :)13:08
Laneyit's all broken!!!13:09
desrtwell, good morning in any case :)13:09
pittidesrt: just talking about the regression in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#glib2.013:09
pittidesrt: indeed -- good morning!13:09
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Laneypitti: I want to fix grilo-plugins; can you reject it for now?15:08
pittiLaney: sure15:09
Laneythanks15:09
pittidone15:10
Laneyok, new one will arrive in a few minutes15:10
didrocksNoskcaj: hey, you didn't change the build-dep here? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/197574606/gpaste_3.14-1_3.14-1ubuntu1.diff.gz15:13
didrocksNoskcaj: same for https://launchpadlibrarian.net/198009486/swell-foop_1%3A3.15.4-0ubuntu1_1%3A3.15.90-0ubuntu1.diff.gz15:14
didrocksand https://launchpadlibrarian.net/197863665/tali_1%3A3.15.2-0ubuntu1_1%3A3.15.90-0ubuntu1.diff.gz15:15
didrocksNoskcaj: the other looks good, promoting appstream-utils to main and copying all others packages15:16
seb128kenvandine, you don't have a bq running vivid by any chance?15:32
didrocksNoskcaj: ok, promoted and all the rest copied over. You will see my name on -changes ML, this is a known restriction of copy-package (you are set as "Changed-By" in the email).15:34
kenvandineseb128, i do in fact15:38
kenvandinetesting a fix for the smoke test failures now15:38
kenvandineseb128, why?15:38
seb128kenvandine, want to test the deb from https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-storage-page/+merge/250119 ?15:38
kenvandineseb128, i can't test anything on it until autopilot finishes :)15:38
seb128my bq runs rtm15:38
seb128I can test on the n7, but still would be good to try on bq/vivid15:39
kenvandinemine usually does too15:39
kenvandinebut i flashed it last night15:39
kenvandineseb128, i'll test it15:39
seb128kenvandine, thanks!15:39
pittididrocks: Control-C! Control-C! Control-C!15:46
pitti\o/15:46
pittididrocks: so, bad news about your fsck patches :(15:47
didrockspitti: what bad news? it's just been applied, isn't it? :)15:50
pittididrocks: bah, you're too quick! :-)15:52
pittididrocks: I'm afraid you now don't have the pleasure any more to rebase this the umpteenth time :(15:52
pittididrocks: but, there's of course one critical issue with it: no German translations!15:52
* pitti will commit them in a bit :)15:53
* pitti donne une accolade à didrocks15:53
didrockspitti: ahah! see, the French are always ahead, we do have translations :)15:53
* didrocks donne une accolade en retour à pitti15:53
* didrocks celebrates with some tea15:57
Laneyoh, congrats didrocks!15:59
didrocksthanks Laney, was quite a journey (more than firstly expected :p)16:00
kenvandineLaney, your branch worked fine on krillin, thanks!16:30
Laneycool, thx for trying it!16:30
desrtmmm.  tea.  fine idea, that.16:31
kenvandineLaney, i'll land that this afternoon16:31
* desrt puts the whiskey down and fills the kettle16:31
Laneypitti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10292939/ want to pre-eyeball?16:38
Laneyoops, debdiffed the wrong version - http://paste.ubuntu.com/10293007/16:40
willcookeanyone know anything about icewm?17:27
willcookeI've got it running in Xmir17:27
willcookebut the text is fubar17:27
willcookesome letters are there, some are not, none of them seem to be in any logical order17:28
willcookehttp://imgur.com/qMasfdW17:31
willcookemlankhorst, any ideas?  ^17:31
willcookeseems like I missing fonts17:31
willcookebut I think I've installed them17:31
willcookelots of this:17:32
willcookeIceWM: Warning: Could not load font "DejaVu Sans".17:32
willcookeIceWM: Warning: Could not load font "sans-serif:size=10:bold".17:32
willcookeIceWM: xft: fallback from 'DejaVu Sans,sans-serif:size=10:bold'17:32
mlankhorstttf-dejavu-core fonts-dejavu-extra fonts-dejavu-core ?17:39
qenghoWeird. Applications, XppXXcaXXoXs, ppcaos. Are those glyphs that have special hinting or something?17:43
willcookemlankhorst, already installed17:43
mlankhorstmm :/17:44
redpix0 --enable-xfreetype17:47
qenghowillcooke: $ fc-cat |grep DejaVu\ Sans: |cut -d\  -f1 |cat -n    # eight lines?17:49
willcookeqengho,      1"DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf"17:53
willcooke     2"DejaVuSans-BoldOblique.ttf"17:53
willcooke     3"DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf"17:53
willcooke     4"DejaVuSans.ttf"17:53
willcooke     5"DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf"17:53
willcooke     6"DejaVuSans-BoldOblique.ttf"17:53
willcooke     7"DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf"17:53
willcooke     8"DejaVuSans.ttf"17:53
willcookeredpix0, no different17:53
redpix0:/17:54
mlankhorstoh interesting17:56
mlankhorstfonts-dejavu-extra has the serif ones..17:56
mlankhorstbut so does ttf-dejavu-core and fonts-dejavu-core :/17:56
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willcookeno worries, bregma put me on to matchbox - seems to do the job nicely17:58
Laneydarkxst: if you come back before someone replies, ^^^ I pasted a debdiff for grilo-plugins, feel free to upload/tweak/whatever18:04
Laneysee you!18:04
willcooketoodles Laney18:07
mlankhorstoke goo18:11
mlankhorstgood*18:11
didrockssee you guys!18:13
NoskcajLaney, pitti: Is the transitional package needed even if we change all r-deps to use the new packaging?19:04
mitya57Noskcaj: Usually yes.19:06
Noskcajok19:06
mitya57Noskcaj: you don't need transitional package if the previous package could be only "auto"-installed, i.e. if it was a shared library that user won't install "just to have it"19:10
Noskcajok, fair enough19:10
Noskcajmitya57, Would you have time to review bug 1421907 ?19:22
ubot5bug 1421907 in gnome-menus (Ubuntu) "Merge with Debian 3.13.3-5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142190719:22
NoskcajI'm almost sure it's incomplete, but it's a start19:23
tkamppeterwillcooke, hi19:23
willcookehi tkamppeter19:23
mitya57Noskcaj: commented on the bug19:32
mitya57Noskcaj: and btw there is a Vcs-Bzr, so you should probably submit a MP against that branch instead of a patch19:33
Noskcajok, i'll do that in an hour or so19:34
* mitya57 → EOD anyway19:36
willcooketkamppeter, sorry, my machine rebooted19:40
sarnoldwillcooke: you didn't miss anything from tkamppeter while you were away19:41
willcookethx sarnold19:41
willcookeSweet5hark, can I run writer and calc in separate instances on different X servers?19:57
willcookeSweet5hark, I found some post about setting an env for each19:57
willcookeis that right?19:58
willcookeMy (not Ubuntu) phone auto corrects Libre Office to libreo ff***s20:16
darkxstLaney, ok looking20:20
ogra_with all the stars ?20:20
willcookethankfully not, but I know how sensitive you are about these things ogra_ ;p20:20
ogra_lol20:20
willcookegot Ubuntu Core installed on my Pi btw - but no time to fix Mosquitto yet20:21
willcookesoon20:21
willcooke;)20:21
ogra_:)20:21
davmor2willcooke: did you ever think to remove the Arkwrights spellcheck app at least then it would only be foxes not ffoxes ;)20:22
willcookeLOL!!20:22
desrtrobert_ancell: good morning20:23
robert_ancelldesrt, hi20:24
desrtrobert_ancell: today i'm splitting dconf-editor into a separate module.  i hope you find that to be oK.20:24
robert_ancelldesrt, sounds good20:24
desrt(and if not, now would be a great time to speak up) :)20:24
* davmor2 thinks willcooke is lying to himself if he thinks he has time to fix "other" things20:24
desrtrobert_ancell: i already did the split locally, but i'm currently blocked on the gnome sysadmin team20:25
desrton account of this: https://git.gnome.org/browse/archive/dconf-editor/20:25
robert_ancelldesrt, ha! Blocked by your past self!20:26
desrti just hate past-me20:26
desrtwillcooke: did you get the new pi?20:26
willcookedesrt, ya!20:27
desrtnice and speedy?20:27
desrtthe 6x speedup thing is making me reponder my rasp-pi supercomputer plans :)20:28
willcookeHaven't done anything with it yet :)20:28
desrtthe old rasp-pi wasn't such a great contender... but at a 6x speed up, ...20:28
willcookeTBH, mine tend to idle most of the time.  1 runs the heating, so just a long running python script which does pretty much nothing most of the time, 1 is a router, 1 is my thermostat (again does nothing most of the time)20:29
willcookeI moved my web server to Digital Ocean20:29
willcookeso it'll probably just idle20:29
willcookeas20:29
willcookewel20:29
ogra_if you want a speedy RPi lik board, have a look at the paralllella20:29
willcookeI'm all about the Arduino clones now :)20:33
willcooke1 .5 GBP off ebay20:33
attente_hi, is there a way to keep ubuntu-desktop-next package while installing systemd-sysv? it depends on ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks which depends on upstart20:45
desrtrobert_ancell: okay.  it's done now.20:57
robert_ancelldesrt, did you find someone to take it over and maintain it too :)20:58
desrtyes, actually20:58
desrtThe_gull wants to help20:58
robert_ancellawesome20:58
desrti was hoping you could work with them a bit to help things get started?20:58
desrtLaney: heads up about dconf-editor, btw, in case you missed it21:24
darkxstLaney, looks fine, uploaded21:32

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