[08:16] <smb> jdesfossez, Possibly those messages are not of high enough level. You could try dmesg -n <level> (level -> eg. warn|notice|info). 
[16:20] <bjf> apw, the rebuild DEP-8 test. that's going to get run all the time now for all kernel packages. is that really what we want?
[16:21] <bjf> apw, i know why that test exists, i'm just wondering why it's in the kernel. if it's to ensure that new toolchain packages properly build the kernel why isn't there a test in the toolchain packages for it rather than the kernel?
[16:24] <apw> bjf, it is in there because it is the kernel test one wants to run when any of the packages we depend on, changes
[16:24] <apw> bjf, unfortuanatly there is no way to know you are testing for "me" rather than a "dependancy"
[16:25] <apw> bjf, which is what we would really want ...
[16:25] <bjf> apw, yeah
[16:25] <apw> bjf, i think there was a proposed way to tell, which would let one work it out
[16:26] <bjf> apw, so it's adding multiple hrs. to the testing and when we start running these on multiple archs is going to get worse
[16:28] <bjf> apw, i guess if it is a problem maybe someone will fix it so it only runs when we want rather than all the time
[16:28] <apw> bjf, yeah i cannot deny it is stupid, just asking pitti ritht now if there is a way
[16:31] <apw> bjf, is this in britney testing or in "bjf" testing btw
[16:32] <bjf> apw, new britney testing that CI is adding
[16:32] <apw> bjf, ok so official, not runnig somewhere where we get to help out
[16:32] <apw> to say UNIT_TESTING_FOR_KERNEL and let that short circuit it
[16:32] <bjf> apw, correct.
[16:34] <apw> bjf, i am getting the "it doesn't know, and it is all very hard" but i do struggle to say why it doesn't know myself
[16:44] <infinity> apw: DEP-8 doesn't know why a test was triggered, just that you decided to run some tests.  The fix belongs one layer above that, I suspect.
[16:44] <infinity> apw: ie: we should only run the test under certain circumstances, but the test itself can't know that, it's the framework calling it (adt-britney, whatever) that needs to be smarter.
[16:45] <apw> infinity, well likley, though it is odd it isn't parameterised with why it is being run
[16:45] <infinity> apw: That implies more intelligence than DEP-8 is meant to have.  It should be entirely framework agnostic.
[16:45] <infinity> apw: You can run tests by hand, you can write infra that runs all your tests in a loop, you can trigger them for $reasons, none of that matters to the tests.
[16:46] <apw> yeah, and i'd be cool with the reason it ran being "run by hand" or "none"
[17:01] <cyphermox> jsalisbury: hey, just curious if you had found anything about bug 1359689
[17:03] <jsalisbury> cyphermox, yes, I backported commits abd69c55d and 144ecb97c.  I should post a link in the bug with a test kernel shortly.
[17:03] <cyphermox> ok
[17:03] <cyphermox> thanks :)
[17:05] <jsalisbury> cyphermox, my test kernel build failed, so I just need to fix up my backports a bit.