[00:21] <Pici> Probably should have been !sv
[05:45] <ki7mt> can one of you ops go to the main channel and take care of Adam_ .. he's being really annoying.
[18:22] <bazhang> @random honey vinegar k1l
[18:22] <bazhang> awwww!
[18:23] <bazhang> "why waste the honey"
[18:23] <bazhang> happy chinese new year to all
[18:23] <bazhang> year of the sheep
[18:24] <Unit193> Baaa.
[18:25] <bazhang> HODOR
[18:27] <bazhang> like pulling teeth in support today
[18:27] <bazhang> butnu slow halp
[18:30] <Pici> hodor
[18:30] <bazhang> IAMGOROOT
 I have also made offering to Cthulhu whilst dancing naked with a dead chicken around a fire in my yard.
[18:36] <bazhang> unusual, as support chat goes
[18:57] <Unit193> Isn't paddy quite known?
[18:57] <bazhang> yes
[18:58] <bazhang> infamous one might say
[19:35] <popey> We should probably talk at some point about what we do about phone support once they're out in the wild.
[19:35] <popey> Whether we continue to punt people over to #ubuntu-touch, or whether we support in #ubuntu
[19:35] <bazhang> free phones, support is on
[19:35] <popey> :)
[19:36] <bazhang> otherwise, talk to the hand
[19:36] <popey> I think that's actually a resonable request.
[19:36] <bazhang> or just a p i c i approved factoid
[19:37] <popey> We have a community donation fund. Which we can use to buy stuff for community people. We have bought phones in the past, mainly for developers. But support makes sense too.
[19:37] <popey> Is this something that I should bring up on the irc list or what?
[19:42] <bazhang> most subscribed list in human history
[19:42] <rww> probably could handle it the same way we handle K|X|Lubuntu, Server, etc. Support is available in #ubuntu, but /better/ support may be available in $chan
[19:43] <bazhang> #ubuntu-drool
[19:43] <rww> and the issue with giving out phones would be deciding who would get one. plenty of people in the IRC Team don't offer support, and plenty (most?) of the core support people aren't in the IRC Team
[19:43] <bazhang> we can then make the factoid !drool
[19:43] <rww> (or leave out the "better", but yeah)
[19:44] <bazhang> plus I would get de-opped much sooner for jokingly having started it all
[19:44] <popey> Yeah, fair point.
[19:45] <popey> So the question then is, who are the most active, most reliable support people perhaps?
[19:46] <rww> That's a delightfully non-trivial question that I don't think we ever found a good way of creating metrics for.
[19:47] <rww> disregarding jono's `thankbot' idea ;)
[19:48] <popey> haha
[19:49] <rww> As far as support in #ubuntu... I think the best thing you can do is have good, google-able support resources for Ubuntu Phone. #ubuntu volunteers tend to be self-directed as long as there's something for them to refer to.
[19:49] <popey> we try and chuck answers on au
[19:49] <rww> yeah, askubuntu is perfect for this
[19:49] <popey> but dont cover every use case of course
[19:49] <popey> we're also making a help app to install on the phone
[19:49] <popey> which has some of the basics
[19:49] <rww> how's the emulator doing these days? that would probably be useful too
[19:50] <popey> terrible
[19:50] <popey> IMHO
[19:51] <rww> bazhang: < Paddy_NI> BluesKaj, PRAISE CTHULHU, CURER OF GPG ERRORS!
[19:52] <rww> Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Werner Koch R'SA wgah'nagl fhtagn
[19:53] <bazhang> haha
[19:54] <genii> Is it Cthulhu day or something?
[19:54] <rww> nope, just Paddy_NI day
[19:54] <genii> Ah
[19:54] <bazhang> Cthulhu day is the *last* day
[19:55]  * genii makes more coffee
[22:36] <tonyyarusso> Huh.  I'm reading on Twitter that Freenode has been blocking TOR users for the last week or so - anyone know about that?
[22:42] <Myrtti> blocking?
[22:42] <Myrtti> not really.
[22:42] <Myrtti> Tor is turned off.
[22:43] <Myrtti> well, freenode's own hidden services are turned off.
[22:44] <Myrtti> turns out people haven't got better things to do than to try to bruteforce passwords using SASL.
[22:44] <Myrtti> especially when using TOR.
[22:51] <h00k> tor is for hackers only
[22:51] <k1l_> and freenode doesnt like haxx0rs anymore?
[22:52] <h00k> I's just trollin'
[22:52] <Pici> only nethackers
[22:54] <Myrtti> for those following at home: trying to connect through an exit node has always been blocked, and the only way to connect to freenode has been through our hidden service.
[22:54] <Myrtti> if hidden service is down, you can't use freenode through tor at all.
[22:54]  * Pici makes notes
[22:54] <Pici> (not really, I knew this already)
[22:55]  * h00k copies Pici's notes, forgets to change the name
[22:55] <Pici> Anyway, I think the connection count for the hidden service was only a few hundred anyway. Not insignificant, but not really a big hit against the 90,000+ other connections.
[22:58] <Myrtti> you have hit the nail on the head
[23:04] <tonyyarusso> Pici: Maybe so, but the InfoSec nerds I follow are upset :)
[23:05] <tonyyarusso> anyway, gotta grab a shower before church
[23:06] <Myrtti> infosec nerds are upset by the fact that freenode has prevented bruteforcing accounts? I might find some logic in this situation sometime next week.
[23:14] <valorie> tor is useful for more than haxxors
[23:14] <valorie> it lets in people from China, Iran, etc.