[00:00] <eikon81g> So I am getting this error that appears to be a bug in 14.10 but I was wondering if anyone else has tried to tackle the issue with good results. It affects my splash screen (which I just fixed) but it is not detrimental.. init: Error while reading from descriptor: Broken pipe
[00:01] <eikon81g> Would this be a safe fix to try? >>
[00:01] <eikon81g> I can make it disappear, but I'm not sure what is the real cause :
[00:01] <eikon81g> $ sudo sed -i "s,or starting rc-sysinit,or spawned rc-sysinit," /etc/init/failsafe.conf
[00:01] <eikon81g> A patch in failsafe.conf and its gone.
[00:04] <eikon81g> Looks like some people think it may be an issue with the nvidia drivers other users are reporting the error without the nvidia software.. I know mine started after the install of the nvidia drivers :\
[00:06] <eikon81g> The fix that was posted looks nice but I'm just not sure what the command actually does so I am reluctant to try it.
[00:56] <holstein> eikon81g_: when are you getting "broken pipe"?
[00:56] <holstein> i have had those when i had a bad installer image
[00:58] <elfy> I did have it in 14.10 after installing nvidia driver
[00:58] <eikon81g_> Sorry just saw this.. I am getting it at boot I've also got the tsc calibration error but the fix for that was an edit to a kernal conf file or some such jargon but it is along side that error
[00:59] <eikon81g_> the error shows then the splash screen opens
[00:59] <holstein> error? or message?
[01:00] <eikon81g_> message.. It doesn't halt anything it continues to load the login and I don't have issues from it but It's annoying
[01:00] <holstein> i know what i would do..
[01:00] <holstein> search about it, and igrnore it, if all is well
[01:00] <holstein> ignore*
[01:00] <eikon81g_> I thought it was from something I did when editing the grub file to adjust the resolution of the splash screen but it turns out others are affected
[01:01] <eikon81g_> haha Holstein I am with ya I figured i'd ask : )
[01:01] <eikon81g_> Very good support tip. If it ain't broke.. LOL
[01:03] <eikon81g_> I will let that one go and keep on pushin. I keep learning from fixing lil things here and there so it is a good way for me to get better
[01:06] <eikon81g_> Thank you again holstein
[01:16] <eikon81g_> I am trying the ctrl+alt+l command to try to lock the machine and it is not working.. what is the xubuntu method?
[01:16] <samuel_> hey guys whats up
[01:16] <eikon81g_> you know.. the ceiling the sky.. LOL (sorry had to do it..)
[01:17] <samuel_> haha yeah what did i except
[01:17] <samuel_> so just install xubuntu on my gaming pc :D
[01:17] <samuel_> installed*
[01:18] <eikon81g_> congrats : ) .. (I'm no support btw I am a rookie..)
[01:18] <samuel_> oh everything works great!
[01:19] <eikon81g_> right on, that's great :) double congrats to that!
[01:19] <eikon81g_> most people I see come through this channel are seeking support (me..) and the guys here are really cool and pretty patient which is great
[01:21] <eikon81g_> What games are you running..? Steam..?
[01:21] <samuel_> yes I just wanted to start helping out in the community ya know
[01:21] <samuel_> yes on my windows which i actually need to install grub in a min
[01:21] <samuel_> to dual boot
[01:22] <samuel_> unless grub is outdated now?
[01:22] <samuel_> um i love cod, got 100s on steam
[01:22] <samuel_> skyrim, gta, far cry 3 etc
[01:22] <samuel_> you?
[01:23] <eikon81g_> right on.. I am really a console gamer (when I do game..) Ps4 is the one I use for the moment.. COD AW ftw
[01:23] <eikon81g_> Yea, I believe grub is the preferred method (btw)
[01:27] <samuel_> ok thanks
[01:27] <samuel_> and yeah AW is just not doing anything for me
[01:28] <eikon81g_> lol I've heard that from quite a few hardcore COD players.. I really don't get too into it but when I do play that is usually the one I go to. GTA5 is nasty too. I just don't spend as much time as I used to on the games.
[01:29]  * eikon81g_ walks away sad....
[04:09] <mojique> good morning from paris
[06:00] <puff> I have a dock and an external 24" monitor that I set to mirror my laptop screen.  Often, when I redock, I have to do Menu/Settings/Display/24" dell monitor/mirror this display.
[06:01] <puff> It's linux, there has to be a way I can automate that step...
[06:35] <bullgard4> puff: May be reading http://ianmarmour.com/2012/01/22/setting-up-dual-monitors-on-xfce-arch-linux/ helps along.
[08:13] <xubuntu03w> hello there. i have a problem: sound is coming in (mic input on laptop) but i can't hear it on headphones ... any idea?
[10:25] <newuser> hi
[10:26] <newuser> i have a question
[10:36] <Luyin> they will never learn...
[16:19] <DReynolds> hi all. hoping someone can help. I installed xfce by installing xubuntu-desktop (by apt get) on top of Ubuntu 14.04. when I lock the screen (key command or calling xflock4) it boots back to the login screen and not a lock screen. Logging back in works but i have to put me username in everytime and it wont JUST lock
[16:23] <natuzi> How can I mount a usb after a bad formating? I can see it with lsusb but impossible to remount it.
[16:23] <bgardner> natuzi: If the format is bad, you probably need to reformat before you can mount it.
[16:24] <natuzi> sudo mkfs.ntfs --label usbname /dev/sdb1
[16:24] <natuzi> is it okay ?
[16:25] <bgardner> natuzi: Should be, but I can't speak specifically to NTFS as I don't use it.
[16:26] <Unit193> DReynolds: Xubuntu uses light-locker, which uses lightdm to lock.
[16:26] <Unit193> You can switch to something else if you need to of course.
[16:27] <DReynolds> Unit193, is lightdm the same as used by Unity to lock? cause the result isn't the same
[16:30] <natuzi> bgardner: nice it works
[16:33] <bgardner> natuzi: :)
[16:34] <Unit193> DReynolds: Lightdm is used in Ubuntu as well, but with a different greeter.
[16:36] <ochosi> DReynolds: actually ubuntu uses a separate lockscreen that only *looks like* the greeter
[16:36] <ochosi> depends on your greeter config whether you have to enter the username
[16:37] <ochosi> in the default xubuntu setup you can just select the user (or in fact the logged-in user is preselected if you lock)
[19:12] <natuzi> Sometimes, the logo of the menu Whisker dissapears and I have to move the cursor on it to solve the problem. Is it a driver problem?
[19:37] <brainvvash> natuzi, probably not, seems to affect most gpus/drivers
[20:00] <Kekai> I run Xubuntu 14.04 LTS, and recently I can't open my USB drive. I get this error: Failed to open directory "5DEA-F6BC"
[20:01] <Kekai> I need to get something off it, but the only help I have recieved is to format in Gparted
[20:01] <holstein> Kekai: i would try opening it on another machine, and consider using recovery on it if i find, or feel its broken or breaking
[20:01] <holstein> i like photorec
[20:01] <holstein> Kekai: i wouldnt format it.. that specifically can break it
[20:01] <Kekai> it seems to be only one folder causing the problem
[20:01] <holstein> Kekai: i would be cautious. and keep in  mind, data recovery is not trivial.. take your time and research before doing anything drastic
[20:02] <Kekai> okay
[20:20] <Kekai> I used a windows machine and backed everything up
[20:20] <Kekai> I formatted and it works now
[20:50] <xubuntu32o> how would i update my version within terminal from 12.10 (quanzal) to a newer release?
[20:52] <holstein> !12.10
[20:52] <holstein> xubuntu32o: 12.10 is EOL
[20:52] <holstein> xubuntu32o: for me, i think you can fiddle about, and get an upgrade to happen in the span of 6 or so hours.. i say, take the time to backup and fresh install..
[20:53] <holstein> but, you can do an upgrade.. and it should work fine, if thats what you prefer.. regardless, i suggest you have a backup
[20:54] <xubuntu32o> i understand, the reason i installed 12.10 was because i had no blank DVDs and 12.10 was under 700 mb... is ther any other way to eithe install another os suchh as ubuntu or even a newer releas of Xbuntu?
[20:54] <genii> I tend to agree. You could use the old-releases archives until you upgraded to a non EOL release, then use the normal ones, but you'd be going 12.10-13.04-13.10-14.04 which is painful
[20:54] <xubuntu32o> right, but i dont mind , was planning on that process anyway
[20:55] <holstein> !mini
[20:55] <holstein> you can use smaller iso's for newer versions
[20:55] <genii> !13.10
[20:55] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/news/booting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd/
[20:55] <holstein> lets say, you backup, and that takes less than an hour, and it takes less than 4 per version.. you are looking at around 13-15 hours.. best case
[20:56] <genii> So it would be all EOL upgrades until Trusty
[20:57] <knome> see the link i posted for instructions on how to install from a CD with later versions
[20:57] <xubuntu32o> right, well where would i find a minimal non EOL ISO ?
[20:57] <knome> or as said, you can use the minimal ISO
[20:57] <xubuntu32o> right thats my current and most logical option thanks
[20:58] <xubuntu32o> i will explore the options and get back, thanks
[22:16] <mkadir> hi everybody
[22:33] <Lember> Hello I'm looking for some help for my new installation process, my wifi and ethernet seem to be not working with any ubuntu based distro
[22:34] <Lember> Anything I can do?
[22:34] <holstein> Lember: i would just work with "seem" and make sure that, firstly, the hardware isnt broken. for example, boot windows or whatever officially supports the hardware, and/or, a "known good" live iso.. then, you'll know if the hardware is functional
[22:35] <Lember> Yet it is, I installed crunchbang recently without any wifi or ethernet problems, same with Deepin
[22:35] <holstein> then, i would move on to trying diffrent live isos.. and, not xubuntu vs ubuntu vs lubuntu.. they are *all* ubuntu, with the same kernels and hardware support.. what i suggest is, 12.04, vs 14.04, vs 14.10, vs upcoming 15.04, for example
[22:36] <Lember> So, different versions? Would that actually help?
[22:36] <holstein> Lember: sure.. so, you can look at, either #! or deepin, and see what drivers are supporting what.. since #! works, and you know it did, you can boot if live, and see that the hardware is functioning
[22:36] <holstein> Lember: im not referencing any "fix" here, so, no.. that wont "work". but, it will help you figure out what the issue is
[22:36] <holstein> !wifi
[22:37] <Lember> So I should install a distro that works fine and check the drivers
[22:37] <holstein> Lember: no
[22:37] <Lember> Just boot it from usb and check it?
[22:38] <Lember> Like, no install
[22:38] <holstein> Lember: the 'should' would be for the creators of the hardware, to make sure that they support linux and provide you with support.. since they likely didnt promise that, you will support it yourself
[22:38] <holstein> i would do that by running different live iso's and seeing what works, and why
[22:39] <holstein> you say, for example, #! works, so, boot that, see that the hardware is still working , and note the kernel version and modules in use
[22:39] <Lember> Could you give me some instructions on that
[22:39] <holstein> you say deepin works, so, see what ubuntu version your deepin was based on, and you'll like find, that *same* ubuntu version base will work
[22:39] <holstein> Lember: sure. put the stick you made with #! on in in the machine.. boot it
[22:40] <holstein> Lember: test the connections.. run "uname -a" and "lscpi" and/or "ifconfig". whatever you need to see what is being supported and how
[22:40] <Lember> Well, I'll check on this netbook I've deepin on because it has the same problems that the other one has with ubuntu
[22:40] <holstein> Lember: make a note of what is supporting that, while you are tyere..
[22:41] <holstein> deepin, AFAIK *is* an ubuntu base.. so, you are likely comparing different base versions of ubuntu, and assuming its ubuntu vs deepin. when, actually, its different kernel versions
[22:41] <Lember> That's true this is ubuntu based uhhh
[22:42] <Lember> I will check what ubuntu is based in and will try to boot that
[22:43] <Lember> I have the commands results, what do I actually need to see in them?
[22:46] <Lember> It says it is Ubuntu 14.04 based
[22:47] <Lember> So, probably ubuntu 14.04 will work on my computer?
[22:47] <Lember> Same with Xubuntu 14.04
[22:47] <Lember> ?
[22:50] <holstein> Lember: i would start there
[22:50] <holstein> Lember: 14.04 is lts, as well
[22:50] <holstein> !lts
[22:50] <holstein> anyways, try 14.04 xubuntu and see.. try it live
[22:51] <Lember> Well, they seem to be based on the same kernel and stuff, I will try it out, thanks!!!!!
[22:51] <holstein> Lember: sure.. cheers..