[00:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I had ubiquity qt5 as a gsoc suggestion
[00:47] <Riddell> so point hgim to me
[00:47] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion quassel 0.12-beta
[00:48] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1423401
[01:22] <jussi> gday Riddell
[07:15] <soee> good morning
[08:02] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:27] <ovidiu-florin> gutten morgen :D
[08:31] <sitter> that surely can't be spelt with two t
[08:31] <ovidiu-florin> then it's guten morgen?
[08:32] <sitter> Riddell: kdenlive ... either we land mlt 0.9.4 and leave kdenlive broken or we land mlt 0.9.4 and kdenlive git snapshot (frameworks) or we land neither and backport mlt for applications 15.04 (which also shouldn't be a biggy as apparently kdenlive is the only thing using mlt anyway)
[08:32] <sitter> ovidiu-florin: depends on what language you intended, but I know none where it's two t ;)
[08:33] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know german, I'm still learning as I go
[08:33] <sitter> one t then :)
[08:34] <sitter> good おはようovidiu-florin
[08:34] <sitter> I totally know there is a longer version that more resembles a good morning, alas, I don't remember
[08:35] <sitter> おはようございますovidiu-florin
[08:35] <sitter> problem solved xD
[08:35] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: I trust that you did not curse me
[08:39] <sitter> I wouldn't know, it's all very complicated 
[08:39] <sitter> e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burakumin
[08:40] <lordievader> Hihi
[08:41] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Ofcourse sitter put a curse on you :P
[08:44] <sitter> very efficient language
[08:45] <sitter> saves me the trouble of having to actively think about cursing someone
[08:45] <sitter> muhahaha
[08:46] <lordievader> そうですね。
[08:56] <sitter> xD
[09:46] <Riddell> happy birthday Blizzz 
[09:47] <Riddell> sitter: if kdenlive is the only thing that needs mlt why would be update mlt until we have a kdenlive that uses it?
[09:48] <Blizzz> Riddell: thank you :)
[09:49] <sitter> Riddell: less of a hassle perhaps
[09:49] <Riddell> sitter: sounds like it's more of a hassle :)
[09:49] <sitter> I don't have a better reason than that, that's why I asked :P
[10:05] <soee> so today Plsams 5.2.1 should be released ?
[10:06] <Riddell> soee: yeah, I need to do battle with sitter's new releaseme script
[10:06] <soee> :D
[10:08] <Riddell> !testers | 14.04.1 candidate images http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/326/builds
[10:08] <Riddell> !testers | 14.04.1 candidate images 
[10:39] <lordievader> 14.04.1?
[10:53] <Riddell> 14.04.2, do forgive my off by 0.0.1 error
[11:00] <Riddell> --mark--
[11:02] <lordievader> ;)
[11:10] <Riddell> sitter: where did you say plasma docs need to be branched to?
[11:11] <sitter> stable/something
[11:12] <sitter> branches/stable/l10n-kf5/$LANGUAGE/docs/kde-workspace (I think)
[11:13] <Riddell> and I have to do that for every language? that seems quite error prone
[11:16] <sitter> yes
[11:21] <Riddell> sitter: releaeme does svn now? what's the syntax?
[11:24] <sitter> Riddell: you need to make a config file
[11:25] <sitter> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10306575/ then call it with the name of the yml file as project_name and the --from-config switch
[11:26] <sitter> e.g. with my yolo.yml:
[11:26] <sitter> ./tarme.rb --origin stable --version 2.0 --from-config yolo
[11:46] <Haudegen> Will there be a kdesvn package in vivid?
[11:48] <Riddell> Haudegen: I don't think so it conflicts with kdesdk-kio-plugins
[11:48] <Riddell> can't you use kdesdk-kio-plugins ?
[11:49] <Riddell> --mark
[11:49] <Riddell> sitter: 49 minutes to make the tars, much nicer than 4 hours :)
[11:52] <Haudegen> Riddell: Kdesvn's KIO-plugins work better for me.  And I use the kdesvn GUI for some specific tasks.
[11:53] <sitter> yeh
[11:53] <sitter> Riddell: did you watch network IO in ksysguard?
[11:54] <Riddell> sitter: oh no I didn't :(  although nobody here complained about slow network
[11:55] <sitter> I was more interested in whether it bottlenecks on network speed or thread count :P
[11:55] <sitter> ah well, maybe next time
[11:59] <Riddell> sitter: what's wrong with this tarme for svn? https://paste.kde.org/pqvytzipy
[12:00] <sgclark> morning
[12:00] <sitter> it's a bug!
[12:00] <Riddell> beasties!
[12:01] <Riddell> hola sgclark 
[12:02] <lordievader> Hey sgclark o/
[12:03] <sitter> Riddell: should be fixed
[12:05] <lordievader> Am I missing a package when legacy systray icons do not show up?
[12:06] <soee> lordievader: what icons for example ?
[12:08] <mitya57> lordievader: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[12:08] <lordievader> Dropbox.
[12:08] <mitya57> TL;DR: they won't work anymore
[12:09] <lordievader> I've gotten that far. But the info dropbox supplies over the commandline is rather, well, limited.
[12:10] <soee> well for skype for exmaple, you have to install sni-qt:i386
[12:12] <mitya57> sni-qt will work for all Qt 4 apps (that use QSystemTrayIcon)
[12:21] <sitter> there's still no bluez5 >.<
[12:22] <kfunk> is quassel known to be crashy in vivid? just started to crash randomly here lately (since a week or so)
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:26] <soee> kded5 just love to eat my CPU
[12:27] <soee> need that fix from 5.2.1 ;)
[12:27] <sitter> it has
[12:34] <kfunk> why didn't you backport that one already? you're getting lazy ;)
[12:40] <sitter> that one should be backported to utopic
[12:40] <sitter> hardly worth backporting to vivid considering upstream didn't even deem it impactful enough to do a 5.2.0.1 release :P
[12:41] <kfunk> yeah, just a minor inconvenience :|
[12:41] <kfunk> sucking my notebook battery empty all day
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Konversation Version 1.6-beta1 is using 50% of my cpu 
[12:41] <soee> backporting to vivid ?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> and I need all the cpu room I can get'
[12:42] <soee> BluesKaj: wait for Plasma 5.2.1 i would say, and check then
[12:42] <kfunk> s/backport/add the patch to our package/
[12:42] <kubotu> kfunk: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[12:42] <BluesKaj> is that today ?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> soee,^
[12:43] <soee> BluesKaj: [11:06] <Riddell> soee: yeah, I need to do battle with sitter's new releaseme script
[12:44] <BluesKaj> no wonder konversation is so slow to change chats etc
[12:45] <soee> BluesKaj: for me this beta version works nice, uses only ~ 40 mb ram
[12:48] <BluesKaj> soee, same here 64mb memory  , but it's using 50% of my cpu 
[13:06] <BluesKaj> when I switch to this room my cpu on konversation jumps from 11% to 50% , as soon as switch to another room the cpu drops back to 10% or so...WTH?
[13:06] <sitter> bug?
[13:07] <soee> BluesKaj: do you have some conversation on ther channel ?
[13:07] <soee> if not try to start one and compare cpu usage
[13:10] <BluesKaj> soee, I have 6 other rooms open , when  I switch to them the cpu drops to 10% on each
[13:16] <BluesKaj> and it maxes out 1 core, but doesn't share the load with the other core like it should
[13:17] <BluesKaj> very strange 
[13:20] <ScottK> Sput: Uploading the beta now.  mamarley's going to have an upgrade problem in the PPA because 0.12-beta1 is a higher version than 0.12.  0.12~beta1 would have been better (I did use this for the archive upload).
[13:23] <sitter> Riddell: did you actually push about-distro to git?
[13:24] <Riddell> sitter: I think I saw no Vcs fields and assumed there was no such thing
[13:24] <sitter> same for konvi
[13:24] <Riddell> turns out there is http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/about-distro.git/
[13:24]  * Riddell fixes
[13:25] <sitter> Riddell: when in doubt you can check the ci-tooling repo data/projects.json. assuming people tell me when a kf5 thing gets introdcued that should be a fairly complete list of all things that have a git repo
[13:26]  * sitter is in the bad habit of forgetting to add vcs fields -.-
[13:30] <ScottK> sitter: I put the quassel changes I just uploaded into bzr since that's where the Vcs-* pointed.  It's not maintained by the Qt-KDE team in Debian, so not sure where it should go?
[13:31] <sitter> ScottK: bzr is fine for now
[13:31] <ScottK> K.  
[14:17] <Riddell> Quintasan: fancy giving me the shipit on https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/121589/ ?
[14:17] <Riddell> Rename binary to ksnakeduel
[14:18] <Quintasan> Done
[14:24] <Riddell> ScottK: about?
[14:24] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.
[14:25] <Riddell> ScottK: I want to revert the SRU from bug 1182784 in ubiquity because it seems to cause a crash for non-english
[14:25] <ScottK> OK.
[14:25] <Riddell> ScottK: needs to be now because I need to rebuild for 14.04.2
[14:25] <ScottK> Right.
[14:26] <Riddell> ScottK: I've uploaded 2.18.8.7
[14:26] <ScottK> OK.  I'll have a look.
[14:26] <Riddell> ScottK: and I've run ./copy-package -s trusty-proposed -b --to-suite=trusty-updates ubiquity
[14:26] <Riddell> but it's not copied over according to launchpad
[14:26] <Riddell> am I missing something or am I just being impatient
[14:27] <ScottK> We use sru-release for that.
[14:27] <ScottK> Don't just copy that packages, but shouldn't an SRU team member be doing that anyway?
[14:28] <ScottK> In fact, it looks like that landed it in unapproved.
[14:28] <Riddell> ScottK: yes but I'm in a hurry for 14.04.2 so I'm being naughty
[14:28] <ScottK> Let me look at it.
[14:32] <ScottK> Riddell: Done.
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Riddell, do you guys have some kind of traffic pointed at this chat because as soon as I switch to this room my cpu jumps from 10 to 100% usage on one of the cores ...very strange
[14:40] <Riddell> BluesKaj: we have patched our irc clients to send the bank details of anyone who joins this channel, but don't tell anyone it's secret
[14:40] <Riddell> ScottK: hmm nothing changed in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity am I just impatient?
[14:40] <Riddell> I did get a [ubuntu/trusty-updates] ubiquity 2.18.8.7 e-mail
[14:41] <BluesKaj> Riddell, good luck with my accts :) 
[14:44] <Riddell> ScottK: yay it's in
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Riddell, seriously , this is what I see when I switch from #kubuntu-offtopic to #kubuntu-devel,  http://imagebin.ca/v/1sCWwvJdphiX
[14:53] <sitter> file a bag
[14:54] <BluesKaj> it's difficult to track down, sitter since it's contained within the the client
[14:55] <sitter> telling us is not gonna get fixed though :P
[14:55] <sitter> maybe talk to #konversation
[14:55] <BluesKaj> sitter, is someone else here seeing the same effect ?
[14:55] <sitter> apparently not
[14:57] <Riddell> BluesKaj: run it through gdb
[15:06] <lordievader> Or strace it.
[15:07] <sitter> or valgrynd
[15:07] <Riddell> Quintasan: yay ksnakeduel rename done for frameworks too
[15:07] <Riddell> that feels good
[15:08] <Riddell> now maybe I can do something less important like release plasma or trusty .2
[15:08]  * sitter sure hopes Riddell did check that nothing uses add_subdirectory in the documentation folders :P
[15:19] <Quintasan> sitter: You know any cheap hotels in Berlin?
[15:20] <Riddell> must be a friendly kde person you can stay with
[15:23] <sitter> yeah
[15:23] <sitter> there's like 3000000 kde people in berlin
[15:24] <sitter> cheap hotelwise I am not the person you want to talk to. I am too posh :P
[15:24] <shadeslayer> ^^
[15:24] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: probably a hostel would be cheap
[15:25] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: hell if I know. I got accepted for Rails bootcamp for free and they didn't even tell us what exactly is free
[15:25] <sitter> rails \o/
[15:25] <shadeslayer> rails
[15:25] <shadeslayer> haha
[15:25] <shadeslayer> oh boy
[15:25] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: have fun :D
[15:25] <shadeslayer> you can come back and redesign kubuntu.org
[15:25] <Quintasan> Probably not but it's two week of no university
[15:26] <Riddell> nightrose may be able to help
[15:26] <Riddell> although two weeks is quite a big ask to stay with even a friendly kde person :)
[15:26] <sitter> shadeslayer: I don't think we can manage 3 security updates per week :P
[15:26] <Quintasan> lol
[15:26] <sitter> Riddell: Quintasan could move every couple of days
[15:27] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:27] <sitter> like I say, there's certainly no shortage of kde people in berlin
[15:29] <Quintasan> Well, I might bail out if stuff heads into this direction
[15:30] <sitter> well, staying for 2 weeks in a hostel is gonna be expensive
[15:30] <sitter> surely reigns in at 30-50 at the cheapest per night
[15:30] <sitter> so that's an easy 700 euros just for accomodation
[15:31] <sitter> and then probably not even good one at that :P
[15:34] <shadeslayer> hm true
[15:34] <Riddell> sitter: so stuff like this is evil? https://paste.kde.org/pwkdtlob0
[15:37] <sitter> Riddell: well, that's from releaseme
[15:37] <sitter> you have to look at git not the tars
[15:37] <sitter> or I guess you can also look at the tars but there you have to check doc/en_US's CMakeLists
[15:41] <Riddell> ah
[15:47] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: you working on kdevelop?
[15:50] <kfunk> sitter: you'll surely get cheaper hostels in Berlin, which aren't necessarily bad
[15:51] <Sput> ScottK: thx, I'll let him know (and thanks for the upload of course!)
[15:51] <ScottK> Thanks.  np.
[15:53] <ScottK> rdieter: In rpm land, how do you make version 1-beta1 lower than version 1 (In Debian it's 1~beta1)?
[15:53] <sitter> kfunk: I wouldn't know, I never stayed in a hostel in berlin :P
[15:53] <sitter> kfunk: aren't you living in berlin? maybe you could help Quintasan find a decent place to stay xD
[15:54] <kfunk> me neither. but "I know people" who did :)
[15:54] <kfunk> I'm actually moving to Cologne in two weeks :)
[15:54] <kfunk> but sure, I can help out
[15:54] <sitter> mhh, waited until after karneval? that seems smart ;)
[15:55] <kfunk> I've been there at monday. 'nuf said
[15:55] <sitter> ^^
[15:55] <rdieter> ScottK: rpm supports the ~ trick now too recently, but historically (and currently, our packaging guidelines have not yet adopted the ~ feature) moved anything like that from Version: tag to Release tag instead, ie, 1~beta1 would map to something like:    foo-1-0.1.beta
[15:56] <ScottK> rdieter: OK.  If it's supported generally (even if it's recent), it might make sense to start recommending that to upstreams generally.
[15:56] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:56] <sitter> rdieter, ScottK: I still think the correct approach is to scream and shout at upstreams that use such nonesense in their versions
[15:56]  * rdieter agrees with sitter
[15:57] <ScottK> Where the nonsense is the 'beta' string?
[15:57] <rdieter> just don't do it, recommending monotonically increasing version numbers is the simplest and sanest approach
[15:58] <ScottK> Agreed.  Just thinking aloud about a way to do that with upstreams that insist on words in their versions.
[15:58] <sitter> ScottK: and the hyphen
[15:58] <ScottK> yeah
[15:59] <rdieter> I have a cluebat I use to whack people from time to time, would be happy to lend it out to the forces of good
[15:59] <Sput> ScottK: mamarley actually used 0.12.0~beta1 so it should be fine?
[15:59] <Sput> not that I know anything about dpkg versioning :)
[15:59] <ScottK> Oh. OK.
[15:59] <ScottK> Thanks.
[16:13] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: I am more than happy to work on kdevelop if you do not have the time. I am sure we can come up with another for you. I would like to use the new kdevelop myself :)
[16:17] <kfunk> sgclark: kdevelop as in KF5-based kdevelop?
[16:18] <kfunk> (I'm doing development on KDevelop, fwiw)
[16:18] <sgclark> the new release, if it is kf5 great lol
[16:19] <kfunk> nope, the KF5 version is unreleased
[16:19] <kfunk> and still got some rought edges
[16:19] <kfunk> -t
[16:20] <Riddell> sgclark: go ahead with kdevelop I think, Sick_Rimmit can take on calligra if he's in a useful mood
[16:20] <Riddell> or plasma 5.2.1
[16:20] <Riddell> once I make the tars
[16:28] <sgclark> Riddell: k
[16:29] <Riddell> sgclark: or new plasma tars are nearly ready if you want them
[16:30] <sgclark> Riddell: I can do both
[16:30] <sgclark> Riddell: let me know when ready
[16:55] <Riddell> new images need testing
[16:55] <Riddell> !testers | trusty 14.12.1
[16:55] <alket> ok
[16:55] <Riddell> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/332/builds
[16:55] <Riddell> new 20150219.1 images
[16:57] <alket> 14.04.02
[16:58] <Riddell> alket: yes daily-live 20150219.1 is the candidate for 14.04.2
[16:58] <Riddell> all testing appreciated
[16:58] <Riddell> sgclark: plasma 5.2.1 tars up on depot
[17:01] <shadeslayer> ENOTIME
[17:03] <sgclark> Riddell: k
[17:29] <mparillo> I am downloading 14.04.2 RC 32-bit now. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/332/builds/89452/testcases/1300/results
[17:35] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Hey...
[17:35] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I am in a useful mood...
[17:35] <sgclark> Riddell: why are baloo and kfilemetadata 5.6.1, is that going to mess up the script or ?
[17:36] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: I will be back in about 2 hours once I get home, and happy to package something up, and help you..
[17:36] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Pressurising lazy volunteers always works well you know ;-)
[17:37] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: np, I am here for several more hours
[17:37]  * Sick_Rimmit grins and ducks 
[17:37] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: OK, well I will let you decide what you want to point me at.. will shout up once I return
[17:38] <sgclark> Riddell: and is this the one that needs ecm? what version, I can't seem to find it in depot
[17:40]  * Sick_Rimmit vanishes in poof of dust
[17:54] <BluesKaj> so where's the plasma upgrade for today ?
[17:56] <sgclark> err the one he just tarred up like 10 mins ago? give me some time lol
[18:00] <BluesKaj> sgclark, I was actually try to get an answer from soee, but I guess he left :)
[18:00] <BluesKaj> err trying 
[18:20] <mparillo> 14.04.2 ships with an immediate need for a security update: libnss3 libnss3-1d libnss3-nssdb
[18:52] <kfunk> sgclark: faster!
[18:54] <sgclark> lol
[19:38] <soee> Riddell: any new about Plasma 5.2.1 /
[19:38]  * Sick_Rimmit arrives... Kerbang whoosh.. Doh!! 
[19:42] <soee> woot woot ?
[20:01] <BluesKaj> anyone else getting hash sum mismatches like so? archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:03] <BluesKaj> both main and universe repos  are giving me the mismatches
[20:08] <lordievader> BluesKaj: On vidid? If so, I'll check it in a bit. Need to boot up my Vivid desktop anyways.
[20:12] <BluesKaj> lordievader, yes on vivid
[20:15] <sgclark> soee: what kind of news are you looking for? I am uploading the non fail packages to next-staging now, will have to work on a few tho
[20:16] <soee> sgclark: ok, that is what i was asking, thankx
[20:16]  * Sick_Rimmit toddles off to look at the kdenlive bug and assoc packaginh
[20:16] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Updating here goes fine, I'm using the Dutch mirror.
[20:26] <Riddell> hi Sick_Rimmit 
[20:26] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Hello
[20:27] <Sick_Rimmit> Just looking at the kdenlive no audio stuff from 16 weeks ago !! 
[20:27] <Sick_Rimmit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/+bug/1400361
[20:27] <Riddell> sgclark: how's your packaging?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> all is ok now lordievader, no more mismatches...guess the university which hosts the repos here caught up to the rest
[20:29] <Riddell> lordievader, soee, BluesKaj: anyone able to do any iso testing immediately? we need to get this 14.04.2 release out in a couple of hours
[20:29] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit, sgclark: worked out who's doing kdevelop?
[20:31] <Sick_Rimmit> I am just about to start with libav-tools, but am very happy to take it..
[20:31] <lordievader> Riddell: I can do the 64-bit iso.
[20:35] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: if you think you can get somewhere with libav-tools then good luck :)
[20:36] <Sick_Rimmit> I have no idea, if I can, I would really to to get kdenlive rendering audio correctly
[20:36] <Sick_Rimmit> Which looks like it needs new versions of kdenlive, libav-tools, and melt
[20:37] <sgclark> Riddell: in the middle of both kdevelop and plasma5
[20:37] <Sick_Rimmit> However, if its going to difficult then it may be better tackled by a black belt, rather than a little old yellow belt
[20:39] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Use my resource as you feel best placed to help us toward 15.04.. so if you have something more pressing you want me to tackle..?
[20:40] <lordievader> Is there a mirror for cdimage.u.c?
[20:40] <lordievader> It is really, really, slow. -.-
[20:41] <soee> lordievader: can you give me link to those isos ?
[20:41] <lordievader> soee: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/332/builds/89451/downloads
[20:42] <lordievader> It ain't my connection ;)
[20:43] <soee> ~ 20 min to download
[20:43] <Riddell> sgclark: lovely :)
[20:43] <lordievader> Ah rsync gives better speeds.
[20:44] <lordievader> 30Mb/s :D
[20:44] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: then give the libav issue a try and if you get stuck with that there's a new calligra beta to package
[20:44] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: 10-4 understood..
[20:44] <sgclark> Riddell: already uploaded a bunch of plasma to next-staging, there were some manual tho
[20:46] <sgclark> Riddell: can you please verify baloo and kfilemetadata are different versions from the rest?
[20:46] <Riddell> sgclark: yes they do
[20:47] <Riddell> (because they were due to become part of frameworks but then a licence issue stopped it at the last minute but it's still hoped to get it into frameworks in the future)
[20:47] <sgclark> ok ty
[20:51] <lordievader> soee: lsb_release reports 14.04.2 :)
[20:51] <lordievader> In a live-session at least.
[21:00] <Sick_Rimmit> ari-tczew: Hi are you around ?
[21:01] <mparillo> lordievader: soee: 14.04.2 on a 32-bit install also 
[21:02] <lordievader> やった
[21:02] <ari-tczew> Sick_Rimmit: hi, yes.
[21:02] <Sick_Rimmit> ari-tczew: Ah brilliant
[21:03] <Sick_Rimmit> I just notice you package kdenlive recently
[21:03] <Sick_Rimmit> I am working on getting kdenlive bug "no audio" fixed
[21:04] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm about to work on melt and libav
[21:04] <Sick_Rimmit> Just wondering if you had covered this ground already
[21:04] <Sick_Rimmit> Sorry, I am a bit new to packaging
[21:05] <ari-tczew> Sick_Rimmit: maybe, I just merged the package
[21:05] <ari-tczew> what's your problem?
[21:06] <Sick_Rimmit> ari-tczew: I am working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/+bug/1388438
[21:07] <Sick_Rimmit> and this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/+bug/1400361
[21:07] <Sick_Rimmit> I am semi guessing that I need to update libav and melt to get the audio working
[21:08] <Sick_Rimmit> So I am just checking with you in case you already done this
[21:08] <lordievader> Riddell: Yayy, oem-config is back :D
[21:09] <ari-tczew> Sick_Rimmit: no idea
[21:09] <Sick_Rimmit> ari-tczew: OK, no worries, thanks for responding and packaging kdenlive :-)
[21:10] <ari-tczew> Sick_Rimmit: if you have a patch to fix those bugs and have you got troubles with packaging, let me know. I can help you
[21:11] <Sick_Rimmit> ari-tczew: Thank you, that may prove very useful.. will yell if I get stuck. :-)
[21:18] <Sick_Rimmit> I have libav (6:11-1ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium in the changelog. I am unsure about the 6: dunno what that is for
[21:18] <Sick_Rimmit> I think I should change that line to 
[21:18] <Sick_Rimmit> libav (6:11-2ubuntu1) vivid; urgency=medium
[21:18] <ScottK> Sick_Rimmit: libav is not something to update casually.  Ask siretart if it should be updated.
[21:22] <Sick_Rimmit> ScottK: OK you've set me thinking now..
[21:24] <Sick_Rimmit> ScottK: I think I am going to download the latest daily, install kdenlive and test the audio rendering.. Maybe I am just duplicating work
[21:29] <soee> lordievader: ping
[21:30]  * Sick_Rimmit switching to calligra-beta
[21:30] <lordievader> soee: What's up?
[21:30] <soee> lordievader: can you please also test: entire disk with lvm and encryption ?
[21:30] <soee> i just finished installation - all fine but system does not boot in VB, after plymouth i have only black screen 
[21:31] <soee> i want some confirmation before i marked it as failed
[21:32] <lordievader> soee: I have the same issues. As the oem-user everthing was fine. Now under any video-chip X fails. tty's work fine.
[21:32] <lordievader> It could be related to bug 1307776
[21:34] <lordievader> soee: Does nomodeset work for you?
[21:37] <soee> lordievader: how can i enable this ?
[21:37] <lordievader> soee: Add it as a kernel parameter.
[21:38] <lordievader> Hmm, would it be related to the disk being full? I'll reinstall.
[21:46] <soee> lordievader: ok but how in VB can i add it as kernel parameter ?
[21:46] <soee> btw, i was able somehow start it from tty but then a lot of crashes reports
[21:47] <lordievader> soee: You add it in grub ;)
[21:47] <lordievader> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[21:47] <soee> thats not somehing that simple user shoudl do :D
[21:48] <lordievader> soee: No, but it might give insight as to where the bug is ;)
[21:51] <Sick_Rimmit> apt-get source warns "could not verify signature on ./calligra......." 
[21:51] <soee> lordievader: i set it, but again ended up with black screen 
[21:52] <lordievader> Hmm, yeah. Here it didn't work either :P
[21:52] <Sick_Rimmit> I assume this needs to be fixed before packaging, for security
[21:52] <soee> lordievader: so i mark it as failed
[21:53] <lordievader> soee: Have you filed a bug?
[21:53] <soee> nt yet
[21:53] <soee>  wonder if it is Vb fault here
[21:54] <lordievader> I don't think KVM and VB share their video code.
[21:54] <soee> lordievader: if you have the same can you fiel a bug and i just add numbe rto my testcase >
[21:54] <lordievader> I'm still investigating.
[21:56] <Riddell> lordievader, soee: how are the images?
[21:56] <lordievader> It seems X doesn't work under KVM or VB :(.
[21:57] <lordievader> However I noticed my install ran out of disk, so I'm checking if that is the cause here.
[21:59] <sgclark> Riddell: kdev-python-1.7.1-py3 ... umm this new and they mixed the version inside the py3 which should be part of name?!? any advise?
[21:59] <sgclark> at least I think it is new, I don't see a py3 kdev
[22:00] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: Is this an indicator for building in Python3 support
[22:00] <lordievader> soee: Could you check if your vm disk is full. X works after a reinstall with a bigger disk.
[22:01] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: that would be my guess
[22:01] <soee> lordievader: what sze did you use before >
[22:01] <soee> *size
[22:01] <lordievader> sgclark: There are seperate versions for python as they are incompatible with one another.
[22:01] <lordievader> soee: 8gb, and since I gave it 4gb ram, the swap was also 4gb... -.-
[22:02] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: yep me too, it would strike me as logical to simply drop the -py3 suffix
[22:02] <sgclark> can't
[22:02] <sgclark> already have kdev-python package, but what lordievader said makes sense, thanks
[22:02] <Sick_Rimmit> lordievader: Isn't kdev-python simply a syntax and command completion parsing extension for Kdevelop
[22:03] <lordievader> sgclark: Talk to scummos if you want the full story.
[22:03] <soee> lordievader: doing fresh install with 16 GB size
[22:03] <lordievader> soee: That is what I upgraded my disk to aswell ;)
[22:04] <lordievader> Sick_Rimmit: No, the plugin also allows you to debug python applications within kdevelop. Using the python debugger rather than gdb.
[22:04] <Sick_Rimmit> lordievader: Ah right I see, OK
[22:05] <soee> brb, going for some hot tea
[22:05] <lordievader> It is rather lovely :D
[22:05] <Sick_Rimmit> kdevelop is my IDE of choice, I really do like it.
[22:06] <lordievader> Same here ;)
[22:07] <Sick_Rimmit> I haven't done anything with the debugging though, as I mostly use it for PHP
[22:07] <Riddell> sgclark: hmm we seem to have both kdev-python and kdevelop-python, the first being python2 and the second being python3 I think
[22:08] <sgclark> I am going to attempt to write a groovy plugin as that is what I am coding in these days
[22:08] <Riddell> sgclark: so at a guess kdev-python-1.7.1-py3.tar.xz becomes the next kdevelop-python
[22:08] <lordievader> It allows you to set breakpoints and inspect the state of your program at those breakpoints.
[22:08] <sgclark> Riddell: ahh ok ty
[22:09] <Riddell> sgclark: but do check if that seem right
[22:09] <sgclark> yeah checking now
[22:10] <Riddell> I'm sure I've moaned to scummos about this naming before
[22:12] <sgclark> Riddell: umm not sure it is. only one entry and closes #718296 which I see nothing of py3
[22:12] <sgclark> Riddell: bah nvm, further python 3
[22:12] <sgclark> further down reads*
[22:13] <soee> this is known in vivid that clicking on links in konversation etc. does not work ?
[22:13] <sgclark> sure is not visible to a user that would be searching for it though..
[22:13] <sgclark> soee: not sure, but right click search google no longer works for me
[22:13] <Riddell> soee: nope but it's a new version so check upstream and report a bug
[22:14] <soee> Riddell: ok
[22:15] <soee> sgclark: any chance to have 5.2.1 fixed today ?
[22:15] <sgclark> yes, but my today is not likely yours lol
[22:15] <soee> :D
[22:17] <soee> lordievader: booted with bigger disk size, shall i mark testcase as fine and only mention in comment the problem with smaller disk ?
[22:17]  * Sick_Rimmit yawns
[22:17] <Sick_Rimmit> Right time to call it a night
[22:17] <sgclark> night Sick_Rimmit!
[22:17] <Riddell> sleep well Sick_Rimmit 
[22:18] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm away for the weekend, but will return to packaging Calligra on Monday evening
[22:18] <lordievader> soee: Not sure if that is a bug, strange things simply happen when the disk is full...
[22:18] <Sick_Rimmit> ttfn
[22:18]  * Sick_Rimmit vanishes with a poof of dust
[22:19] <soee> Riddell: any thoughts ^ ?
[22:20] <Riddell> soee: what's the problem?
[22:21] <soee> Riddell: is VB ha small disk size ~ 8GB system booting ends with black screen, with bigger size (tested 16 GB) all works fine
[22:21] <soee> Riddell: shal this be mentioned as bug ?
[22:21] <soee> *if VB has
[22:22] <Riddell> soee: yeah leave a comment but that's fine to pass
[22:22] <sgclark> Riddell: kcm_touchpad is MIA.. no release or?
[22:22] <soee> ok, thank you
[22:22] <kfunk> Riddell: sgclark: if you have trouble with kdev-python, again, please just mail the kdevelop ML
[22:23] <kfunk> so it is a) recorded what is wrong, b) other people than scummos can chime in, too
[22:23] <sgclark> kfunk: ty, not really trouble with it, a packaging thing really, but sorted now
[22:23] <kfunk> ok
[22:32] <lordievader> Time for me to go to bed, cya.
[22:36] <Riddell> thanks lordievader 
[22:36] <sgclark> Riddell: both user-manager and kcm_touchpad is MIA.. 
[22:36] <sgclark> otherwise all uploaded to next staging
[22:36] <Riddell> sgclark: that's deliberate, they're beta only
[22:37] <sgclark> k
[22:39] <sgclark> Riddell: the two reds are version incorrect lol, but they are the framework hopefuls
[22:40] <sgclark> soee: should be done building soon for your testing pleasure
[22:41] <soee> sgclark: cool ;)
[22:43] <Riddell> sgclark: sitter did grump about this obvious failure in the scripts bless him
[22:46]  * sgclark trys to remember how to use bzr
[22:48] <soee> please emember me
[22:48] <soee> if we change language in ubiquity and choose to try kubuntu, the live sesson should run in selected language or english ?
[22:49] <sgclark> as a user I would expect selected language, is hat not what happens?
[22:50] <soee> hm it shows that language support is incomplete and suggests to download required packages, i think this is how ot whoudl work
[22:50] <sgclark> oh right, no way to ship all those lanaguages on cd, would be silly too
[22:51] <soee> shadeslayer: desktop in live session uses English, but if i click to install system, ubuquty window is localized
[22:51] <soee> sgclark: ^
[22:51] <sgclark> yeah, I suspect you would have to click the lil download languages thingy
[22:52] <soee> sgclark: yup  did it but probably i would have to logout or something to get it working
[22:52] <sgclark> yeah prolly, dunno how that stuff works. have not dealt with it yet
[22:59] <soee> what does the 4 stands for here 4:5.2.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1
[23:02] <sgclark> epoch it has to do with versioning... the full details I a still not entirely clear on
[23:05] <soee> why network manager does not have this number ?
[23:06] <Riddell> soee: there's no language packs installed so it'll be in english except for ubiquity
[23:06] <yofel> it's something like "Xth versioning scheme", like if you have a 20140302.1 version and want to "update" to 1.0, that's impossible. For that dpkg allowes adding an epoch, e.g. 1:1.0
[23:06] <yofel> soee: ^
[23:07] <Riddell> soee, sgclark: back in the day coolo did kde packaging for debian and changed the version numbers 4 times
[23:09] <sgclark> ah ha, makes sense thanks
[23:09] <soee> for amd64 only this test left: Install (auto-resize)
[23:10] <soee> ill do some for i386 now
[23:10] <Riddell> yeah i386 could do with more love
[23:10] <Riddell> it's going out to mirrors now but still worth completing the tests and can still be pulled
[23:11] <Riddell> testing in multiple languages would be good
[23:11] <soee> i always install it in PL :D
[23:12] <soee> well if it works in PL (vivid does not)
[23:14] <Riddell> soee: right I need to make the fix I made to these trusty images to vivid, I'll do that tomorrow
[23:15] <soee> Riddell: would be cool
[23:35] <sgclark> Riddell: bzr-buildpackage-ppa totally barfed on, are all these files suppose to be in bzr? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/kdevelop/vivid/files barfs on upstream changes, like all the files
[23:36] <sgclark> Riddell: want me to upload these and fight with bzr later? I have to step out a few :(
[23:39] <Riddell> sgclark: yeah upload away
[23:40] <sgclark> k, gonna toss in ninjas
[23:40] <Riddell> the UDD ~ubuntu-branches have the badly over-engneered style of branches where the whole source is in bzr which is very confusing
[23:47] <sgclark> Riddell: ok kdevelop* in ninjas, plasma in next staging. bbl
[23:48] <Riddell> sgclark: you're on a roll! :)