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Kiloshi inetpro  mazal and others04:44
mazalMôre oom04:50
PadroniMorning all04:53
Kiloshi Padroni  04:53
PadroniStart of a long day for me.  04:53
PadroniI'm only off work in 19 hours from now o.O04:53
Kiloseina04:53
Kiloscan you at least nap in between?04:54
mazalMorning Padroni04:54
mazaloom Kilos: How do I tell my Kubuntu to keep my num lock status upon restart ?04:54
Kiloslol04:55
Kilosdont you set that when you install04:55
PadroniOff to play Warthunder for an hour.04:55
Padronibbl04:56
mazalNevermind , found it04:56
Kilosok04:56
=== Padroni is now known as Pad_warthunder
* mazal hasn't gamed in a while04:57
mazalAnd now I wonder if there is a word gamed04:57
Kilosyes i think there is04:58
KilosMaaz  define gamed04:58
MaazKilos: Game \Game\ (g[=a]m), v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Gamed} (g[=a]md); p. pr. & vb. n. {Gaming}.] [OE. gamen, game?en, to rejoice, AS. gamenian to play. See {Game}, n.] 1. To rejoice; to be pleased; -- often used, in Old English, impersonally with dative. [Obs.] [1913 Webster]  God loved he best with all his whole hearte At alle times, though him gamed or smarte.04:58
Maaz--Chaucer. [1913 Webster]  2. To play at any sport or diversion. [1913 Webster]  3. To play f…04:58
mazalIt looks weird04:58
mazalWow , to "rejoice" . Would have never thought it comes from there04:59
Kiloslol04:59
mazalMaaz you clever boy04:59
Maazmazal: Sorry...04:59
mazalmaaz dont start that again05:00
Maazmazal: *blink*05:00
mazalmaaz *kiss**05:00
Maazmazal: Huh?05:00
mazallol05:00
Kilostell him shup05:01
mazalmaaz shut up05:01
Maazmazal: Excuse me?05:01
Kilosai!05:01
Kilosshup05:01
mazalmaaz shup05:01
MaazShup yourself oh noisy one05:01
mazalmaaz devibe shup05:01
Maazmazal: What?05:01
mazalmaaz devine shup05:01
Maazmazal: *blink*05:01
mazalmaaz define shup05:02
Maazmazal: I don't know about shup. Maybe you meant hup, Sup, Scup, Soup, Ship, Shop, Shug, Shun, Shut, sup, shtup, scup, soup, ship, shop, shua, shun or shut?05:02
mazaloh boy05:02
Kiloshehe05:03
mazalmaaz sup05:03
MaazHowzit mazal05:03
mazalmaaz shut it05:04
Maazmazal: Excuse me?05:04
mazallol05:04
mazalmaaz seen bduk05:04
Maazmazal: bduk was last seen 13 days, 20 hours, 48 minutes and 28 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-02-05 00:16:13 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-02-14 10:59:33 PST05:04
mazalmaaz seen bduk105:04
Maazmazal: bduk1 was last seen 12 days, 22 hours, 20 minutes and 47 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-02-05 22:44:02 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-02-17 09:22:38 PST05:04
mazalhmm , bduk still hasn't been able to fix his chat I see05:05
Kilosai05:06
mazalSomething interesting I see there though , maaz only registers if a user say something. Cos I know bduk was here 2 nights ago , just couldn't say anything05:07
Kilosthats right05:07
mazalBut he was connected and joined the channel05:07
mazalWe'll probably get it sorted on Monday when he is back05:08
stickyboyKilos: Don't you sleep?05:13
Kilosyes stickyboy  but got work to do at this time05:13
Kilosunlocking gates etc05:13
stickyboyKilos: Ah05:17
=== Pad_warthunder is now known as Padroni
Kiloswb Padroni  06:26
Padronity06:28
inetprogood mornings06:34
Kiloshi inetpro  06:34
Jacques_StryMorning06:44
Kiloshi Jacques_Stry  06:45
nlsthzno/06:49
Kiloshi nlsthzn  wb lad06:49
nlsthznhiya uncle Kilos 06:49
Kilosdaddy again yet?06:49
superflynaand mense06:49
Kiloshi superfly  06:49
nlsthznoh yes :D been a daddy since Thursday and also absent obviously06:49
nlsthzndaddy again I mean :p06:50
superflyyay nlsthzn!06:50
nlsthzn\o/06:50
Kiloscongrats lad boy or girl?06:50
nlsthznhealthy baby boy :)06:50
Kiloswonderful06:50
nlsthznvery grateful and happy ^_^06:50
Kiloscongrats mommy from us all too please06:50
nlsthznwas a nice firm 4.4kg at birth oo06:50
nlsthzn*too06:51
Kilosnice06:51
Kiloslol ian was 3 lbs 1 ounce06:51
nlsthznwill let her know when they finally wake-up ... going for almost 4 hours straight which is a nice break from the 2 hour routine zzz06:51
Kilosgood06:51
nlsthzn3 lbs... isn't that very low?06:52
Kilosya he was 2 months 3 weeks early06:52
nlsthznoh wow... 06:53
nlsthznso glad he went full term... so much easier06:53
Kilostoo nosy, didnt want to stay locked up06:53
Kilosyeah im happy for you06:53
nlsthznthis babies names are already causing everyone headaches :P I think he will be having a talk to his mom when he is older...06:53
nlsthznUilleann Bjørn06:54
Kilossjoe06:55
nlsthznthe ø is a problem cause the PC systems for registrations can't handle it >.< so now his certificate comes out as Bj?rn06:55
Kiloslol06:55
nlsthznname pronounced ilen bjurn06:55
nlsthznso not so difficult :p06:55
Kilospoor child06:56
nlsthzntrue06:56
Kilosbefore he was even born you decided to punish him 06:56
nlsthznbaby.. er duty calles :p06:56
nlsthzncalls :p06:57
nlsthznbbl06:57
Kiloshahaha06:57
SquirmMorning07:01
Kiloshi Squirm  07:01
Padronicongrats nlsthzn07:04
Padroni I wonder when people will learn that a legal disclaimer in a mail does not hold up in court?07:06
Padroniyou know that legal disclaimers people put at the end of their mails? Saying if their mail infects your computer with a virus, they are not liable?07:07
Padroniyeah - that does not hold water.  At all.07:07
Padroniwaste of bits and bytes, to be honest.07:07
Kiloshi TinuvaMac  07:27
TinuvaMachey Kilos07:28
inetproPadroni: not only do I wish we could get rid of email disclaimers but HTML emails with fancy signatures irks me to no end as well07:37
inetprowill we ever get rid of it? unfortunately no07:37
Padroninothing wrong with a proper signature, imo07:37
PadroniI use an image for it though.07:37
PadroniIt's a signature, not a f*cking biography / resume and I think that's the part that puts me off it as well07:38
PadroniSo I agree with you there.07:38
inetproplain text is more than good enough for me07:38
inetprokeep it simple and use it for the purpose of sending a message07:38
* Squirm looks around07:42
inetproSquirm: I'm here but you can't see me07:42
nlsthznthanks Padroni and hi TinuvaMac inetpro and I think I missed superfly the first time around07:42
Padroniyw07:43
inetpronlsthzn: congratulations!07:43
superflyPadroni: we have a client whose e-mails have one of those disclaimers07:44
superflyPadroni: so we get mails that say, "Thanks!" and then a disclaimer that is such a waste of bytes07:44
superflyit irks me no end07:44
Kiloslol07:45
PadroniIt has as much effect as putting a bumper sticker on your car that says " I am not liable for any accidents I may cause or make while driving" and then ramming someone 07:45
Kilosi dont read that far07:45
Kilosthe sent from my blackberry is also a pain07:46
Padronioh yes07:46
nlsthznthanks inetpro 07:46
Padroniimo - if you are using a blackberry, don't advertise it07:46
Padronior take it out in public07:46
Padronior or or07:46
Kiloslol07:46
* Padroni hates blackberry07:48
PadroniI figured them out though07:48
PadroniRIM07:48
Padronitheir business model was based on battery sales07:48
Padronithe blackberry was just there to hook you with07:48
Padroniwhat sank them were these cheap batteries from India and China that lasted longer than the original07:48
Kiloslol ya lots of the users carry a charged spare battery with them07:49
Padronisales dropped on their batteries and they went belly-up07:49
=== Neo31` is now known as Neo31
Kiloshi Neo31  07:50
Kilostunisia woke up07:50
nlsthznwhat is the africa channel name again?07:50
Neo31lol07:50
Neo31mrning Kilos 07:50
Kilos#ubuntu-africa07:50
Neo31ubuntu-touch flash is gonna wake up in a minute :p07:51
nlsthznthx07:51
* Squirm spots inetpro doing something dodgy in the corner07:56
Kiloslol\07:57
Kilosai!07:57
Squirmhttp://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html08:10
SquirmUbuntu phone flash sale just went live08:11
SquirmOnly available in the EU, so you all best have your post boxes already set up :P08:11
Kiloshi SDCDev  08:20
fairyfacefuck you Kilos 08:20
Kilosi beg your pardon08:21
Padronifairyface:  you from CT or George?08:21
Padronicoz we pick you up in Cnr Longmarket and Ella st08:21
fairyfacethe new silicon valley08:21
PadroniAs well as PE Tech library in George08:21
fairyfacewhat are you talking about08:22
PadroniYour IP.08:22
fairyfacewhat about it?08:22
PadroniI am tracing it.08:22
fairyfaceoh good. what have you found?08:22
SDCDevhet Kilos08:22
* Padroni sighs08:22
SDCDevhey*08:23
Padronifrom the logs on your pc: that you watch a lot of pr0n08:24
fairyfacehaha  jenna haze08:24
Kilosinetpro  do you know this uncouth idiot?08:26
fairyfacehttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Jenna_Haze_2009.jpg/400px-Jenna_Haze_2009.jpg08:26
fairyfaceeveryone knows about jenna haze08:26
Kilosfairyface  http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct08:27
Kilosif you cant abide by that please leave08:28
fairyfacethe ubuntu spirit died decades ago08:28
Kilosin idiots yes08:30
Jacques_StryWTH is going on here? Come back to flaming?08:30
Kilosthis channel still follows it08:30
fairyfaceKilos, no in real life08:31
Jacques_Stryfairyface, did you join the channel just to seek attention?08:31
fairyfaceyes08:31
nlsthznjust get an OP and kick em08:32
Jacques_StryBasically - troll...08:32
nlsthzneasy as pie08:32
Kilosnlsthzn  at times it sometimes helps if you try help idiots grow up08:33
nlsthznto little time, to many idios08:33
nlsthzn*idiots08:33
Kiloslol\08:33
Padronibbl08:39
Padronimail queues...08:39
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Kilosenjoy08:39
Kilosty superfly  08:46
superfly*sigh*08:46
Kilosi wonder what i di wrong08:47
Kilosdid08:47
superflyKilos: nothing. he's just a troll08:49
Kiloswhy pick on me though08:49
superflyand all he does is try to upset people, because he's an attention-seeking lowlife who derives pleasure from pouring abuse on others08:49
Kilosah08:50
Jacques_StryYour the first person that said something after he joined, could have been anyone08:50
superflyKilos: because you actually said something just after he joined the channel08:50
superflyyes, what Jacques_Stry said08:50
superfly*youre08:50
superfly*you're08:50
Jacques_Stry>.<08:50
Kiloslol ya i welcomed him here yesterday and was told im annoying08:50
Jacques_StryProbably some 12 year old having a kick at irritating people.08:54
Kiloswell not too stupid to not know how to cloak08:55
Jacques_StryMmmmm... true08:55
Kilosim asking in #freenode08:55
nlsthznwell he did have a cloak today08:58
Kilos- fairyface (~whatever@41.164.20.123) has left this server (Changing host).09:09
Kilos[19/02/2015 10:17] --> fairyface (~whatever@unaffiliated/fairyface) has joined this channel.09:09
mazalwow09:21
mazalWho is that guy ?09:21
Kilos?09:26
mazalDaai vark wat so lelik was met oom09:32
Kiloslol09:33
ryu13212lol09:33
Kiloshi ryu13212  from  japan i think09:35
ryu13212Yeah Kilos that's true09:36
=== ryu13212 is now known as Alpha_1
* mazal check out his empty lunchbox09:36
* mazal plots09:37
=== Alpha_1 is now known as Alchemist_ryu12
mazalook Kilos , nuwe minetest is uit09:57
mazalMaar Ubu ppa's nog nie geupdate nie09:57
Kilossjoe09:59
Pad_awayany .vbs fundi's here?09:59
Kilosjulle speel te veel en werk te min09:59
mazal0.4.12 now09:59
mazalissie09:59
Kiloslol10:00
Jacques_StryWatse minetest mods gebruik julle?10:19
Jacques_Stryof speel julle vanilla10:22
mazalJacques_Stry: Ek verkies om nie mods apart te gebruik nie , mens moet redelik baie mods laai om die game behoorlik speelbaar te maak en om daai mods op datum te hou kan nogal baie werk raak11:25
mazalEk verkies om 'n goeie "subgame" te gebruik wat reeds al die beste mods inhet11:25
mazalDan is dit net een ding wat jy update elke keer ( die subgame )11:25
mazalEk kan ten sterkste VanessaE se Dreambuilder subgame aanbeveel. Hy het alles in wat jy ooit kan nodig kry11:26
mazalJacques_Stry: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=919611:26
Jacques_StryGot it thanks :)11:40
mazalJacques_Stry: Just don't enable the "preload item visuals " setting11:43
Jacques_StryI guess it's a end of the world type spell that makes your computer implode on itself, or just makes it lag for a while11:44
mazalYou referring to that setting ?11:45
Pad_awayWhat is minetest?11:52
Pad_awayIf I may ask?11:52
mazalPad_away: It's a free alternative to Minecraft11:53
mazalThat's the short answer :)11:54
mazalWell maintained , actively developed , and a lot of mods11:54
mazalAnd seriously addictive :P11:54
mazalhttps://forum.minetest.net/index.php11:55
mazalBye everyone , God bless12:48
* nlsthzn has an additional copy of minecraft that I accidentally purchased some time ago >.<13:48
Kilossjoe13:53
Kilosyou got too many things on your plate lad13:53
Kilosi nearly slept the avy away13:54
nlsthzn:)14:00
nlsthznand now I have gone and bought the new (and first) ubuntu phone...14:00
nlsthzngrrr... impulses14:00
nlsthzn*sigh*14:00
ThatGraemeGuybe sure to make some good apps for it too14:03
ThatGraemeGuynowadays a smartphone without a decept app market is going nowhere14:04
* nlsthzn isn't a developer... I am hardly an end user14:05
highvoltagethat's ok. that puts you squarely inside the target market of the ubuntu phone ;)14:08
AlphaGgooie môre14:09
Kilosaha14:12
Kiloslol you in japan but speak the taal14:13
KilosAlphaG  talking to you14:14
AlphaGjapan?14:16
Kilosai!14:16
Kiloslemme scroll back14:16
Kilosryu13212 is now known as Alpha_1.14:17
AlphaGfreenode web irc14:17
Kilossorry wrong guy14:17
KilosAlphaG  wb14:17
AlphaGvan die kaap14:18
nlsthzn... will see if the open source crowd here want to take it off my hands to play with.. if not then I will use it :)14:18
AlphaGanyone got their hands on an ubuntu phone14:18
superflyAlphaG: nlsthzn just ordered one...14:24
mazalCan someone explain to me , Kubuntu , I go to the software updater , run check for updates and it returns " no updates available ". I don't believe it , run apt-get update in cli and it returns a whole stack of updates. Why does this happen that software updater don't see updates apt-get update does ?14:28
Kilosyou didnt reload it mazal  14:31
Kilosreload refresh14:31
mazalReload what ? I chose check for updates and it scanned the repos. What else must it reload ?14:31
Kilosthat14:32
mazalBut it did that14:32
mazalAnd returned no updates available14:32
Kiloshave you got synaptic14:32
Kilosworks better14:32
* nlsthzn did14:32
mazalSo there is a major problem with software updater on Kubuntu14:33
Kilosmazal  if you run upgrade what does it show14:33
nlsthznsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade14:33
nlsthzn:p14:33
Kilosand use aptitude14:33
nlsthznapt-get has supercow powers14:33
mazalLike I said . apt-get update return and did lots of updates , at least about 2514:33
Kilosaptitude does the kernel stuff as well14:33
mazalthat worked fine14:33
nlsthznand if in doubt also try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get kernels stuff too :p14:34
nlsthznif you need it14:34
nlsthzn;)14:34
AlphaGsudo apt-get an ubuntu phone14:34
Kiloslol14:34
mazalnlsthzn: From now on I will defnitely use apt-get only on Kubuntu after what I just saw14:34
nlsthznI don't normally have issues with any of the ways to update but terminal makes it less complicated and gives more feedback IMO14:35
nlsthznAlphaG, :)14:35
mazalIf it wasn't that I saw on my server's software updater ( Lubuntu ) that there is updates I wouldn't even have known there is according to K's software updater.14:36
Kilosmazal  you turned it off them14:37
Kilosyou can make it check daily if you like14:37
mazalYou can't trun off a manual check14:37
mazalI ran a manual check14:37
mazalAnd it found zilts14:37
superflymazal: I don't know, I've looked for a "reload" or a "update" button, and they don't seem to exist14:38
Kilosyou fiddled in the settings again man14:38
superflyand on top of that, it's dog slow14:38
superflyI just use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y14:38
mazalsuperfly: It check automatically when you open it14:39
AlphaGwho are all these ppl here?14:40
AlphaG./whois everyone.14:40
Kiloslol lots of new guys 14:41
mazalsuperfly: I'll use that way on this , but I always forget the command for kernels14:41
AlphaGis there an app for ubuntu that allows u to share screen feed of a mobile phone14:42
mazalThe dist-upgrade , I can never remember that one14:42
superflymazal: kernels? I don't understand?14:42
mazaljust upgrade doesn't do the kernels14:42
AlphaGa blackberry screen emulator14:42
superflymazal: no, upgrade does kernels14:42
mazalIt never did for me14:43
superflymazal: what upgrade doesn't do is pull in new dependencies14:43
superflydist-upgrade will pull in new dependencies14:43
mazalWhenever I do upgrade the kernels doesn't update14:43
mazalThey stay listed in the update notifier14:44
Kiloswb AlphaG_  14:51
AlphaG_back button sucks14:51
Kilosmy sister has a curve, and always something hassles14:56
arnaudmezHi Guys15:00
Kiloshi arnaudmez  15:01
arnaudmezA friend of mine have killed hdd of his VM15:05
arnaudmezalmost killed his vmdk15:05
arnaudmezhe's getting error 5: input/output error15:06
arnaudmezsomeone to help ?15:06
Kilosarnaudmez  what system is he running15:07
arnaudmezVMware ESXi with WinMachine on it15:07
Kilosi think is has become corrupted15:08
Kiloshas he run virus and malware scans15:08
Kilosnow where is padowan15:09
arnaudmezDe facto, he get that error as soon as he switch the VM back ON15:11
Kilosarnaudmez  http://www.veeam.com/vmware-esxi-fastscp.html15:14
Kilosor google De Facto error when booting from VMware ESXi with WinMachine on it15:14
Kilosmaybe they have a forum somewhere or irc channel15:15
Kilosimo first move is to make a backup15:18
Kilosor just copy all needed data to another drive15:18
Kilosok now i need advice please. does cc in email just send same mail to othjer peeps as well or is there more to it15:31
Kilosdont all answer at once15:33
arnaudmezKilos: thank you so much15:36
Pad_awaySame mail to other peeps15:36
Pad_awayoriginal sender will see the CC's though.15:36
Kilosdid you come right arnaudmez  ?15:36
Pad_awayBCC or blindcc if you don't want original recipient to know others getting mail as well15:36
Kilosty padowan15:37
Kilosim the original cendre but neve used it before15:37
Kilossender15:38
Kilossjoe15:38
arnaudmezKilos: not yet ... look like the disk have to be checked or something like that15:38
Kilosarnaudmez  here is an idea you can try15:38
Kilosfirst try save the data then boot from ubuntu cd and install testdisk15:39
Kilosthen run testdisk and once its done tell it write15:39
Kilostakes long time though15:39
arnaudmezThat's a killing method15:39
arnaudmezthe host we are talking about is corp machine and you all know better than me what "governance" means15:40
Pad_awayyou may be able to see the CC / BCC if you check headers15:40
arnaudmezi don't wanna kill that bro of mine with Geek method15:41
Kiloslol15:41
Kilosthen run antivirus and malware scans on it first15:42
Kilosanything with win in it is a target for bad things15:42
Kiloshi Tonberry  15:47
=== Pad_away is now known as Padroni
Tonberryhi15:47
* Padroni 105.237.172.20415:47
KilosPadroni  whats that15:47
PadroniTonberry ' s IP15:48
Kiloshes a good guy15:48
* Padroni powers down the Low Orbit Ion Cannon15:48
Padroniok Kilos15:48
Kilosty though15:48
Padroninow what kind of idiot sends a mail to ME and then CC's ME in the mail?15:49
Padroni*sigh*15:49
Kilosthey want to make sure you get it hehe15:49
Kilosyou gonna be falling off the chair before this shift ends15:50
Padronihad a huge argument with a client's 'IT guy' yesterday15:50
Kilosagain15:50
Kiloshaha15:50
PadroniAnyone that calls himself an 'IT guy' is a f*cking twat and will NOT be taken seriously. <-- my new stance on this.15:51
Kilosneelsie put a mommy baby pic on picpaste.com15:51
Kilosnlsthzn  not fb or g+ for me15:53
Padronigoing through support tickets now15:59
PadroniClient mails in : she has a new website up but Google still shows the details of the old site in search results15:59
PadroniJnr manager advises client to delete her website15:59
PadroniDELETE HER WEBSITE FOR A CACHING / INDEXING ISSUE IN GOOGLE.15:59
PadroniI am telling you - these people leave me speechless sometimes...16:00
Kiloslol16:00
KilosPadroni  just smile and endure it, it will get worse16:03
nlsthznKilos, hang on16:11
Kilosty nlsthzn  16:11
Kilosi need to see my chillens chillen16:12
* mazal plots , plans and sceems16:15
Padroniok16:25
Padroniso now when I get spam16:25
PadroniI check if they have a site16:25
Padronithen I scan for vuln's on that site16:25
Padroniand I break it.16:25
Padronibecause tonight, I have time on my hands.16:26
Kilosyay16:26
Kilosty neelsie, so cute16:27
mazalPadroni: You work for an ISP ?16:27
PadroniNo.  A web hosting company.16:27
Padroniand some people are dumb enough to send spam to abuse@ which is MY mailbox16:27
Padronithe funniest is when it's our own clients.16:28
mazalSounds like your on a mission tonight :)16:28
Padroninot really16:28
Padronibut I do have the time16:28
PadroniI got 7.5 hours to kill16:29
Padroniand lots of hack tools to play with.16:29
Padroniso yeah.16:29
Kilostime spent wisely saves more time in the future16:29
Padronitrue16:30
Kiloseverything i say is true except when its false16:31
captineevening alls17:03
Kiloshi captine  17:03
Kilosi go eat17:04
captineenjoy17:07
captinejust finishe17:07
Kilossjoe tummy full, eyes pulling closed17:21
Kiloshi bduk1  17:27
Kilosinetpro  warm ne17:27
SDCDevmaggie vol, ogies toe?17:41
Kiloslol17:42
Kilosmust be getting old17:42
Kilostoo much work for ballies17:42
SDCDev:< hehehe try taking 7 weeks off... jeez stamina just goes to shit17:42
Kiloslol17:43
Kilosim always off, but still too much work17:43
KilosMaaz  seen mage17:44
MaazKilos: I don't know who mage is17:44
Kilosai!17:44
KilosMaaz  seen magespawn17:44
MaazKilos: magespawn was last seen 22 hours, 10 minutes and 26 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-02-18 11:34:07 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-02-18 11:34:28 PST17:44
inetproKilos: http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/funding/17:53
Kilossigh17:54
inetproyou want the phone then follow the guide17:55
Kiloswhere is the Community Donations portal [1].17:55
Kilosdid you read your mail17:55
inetproKilos: did you read the instructions?17:55
Kilosi cant find that thing man17:55
Kilosya ive read me sick17:56
Kilosi dont want the fone17:56
inetproKilos: uh17:56
Kiloswell i do as well but that can wait17:56
inetproplease try again17:56
Kilosai!17:57
inetproKilos: if you don't want the phone then let those who want it apply for themselves17:58
Kilosai!17:59
inetproor make it a team effort and do a proper funding request as a team17:59
Kilosyaya thats the way you in my team to get fly a fone18:00
inetproai!18:00
Kiloslol18:00
Kilosis it that fill in a form thing?18:03
magespawngood evening18:12
Kiloshi magespawn  18:13
inetproKilos: obviously18:17
Kilosso do i have the support of the team or what18:18
mazalCan someone help me with this problem maybe please :18:20
mazalI have ubuntu installed on an external hdd18:20
mazalBoots fine on 2 different pc's , but when trying to boot on my laptop I get this :18:20
captinekilos, sorry, missed the conversatuion18:21
captineu wanting to order a phone?18:21
mazal" Error: attempt to read or write outside of disc 'hd0'18:21
Kilosnope i want them to give fly one18:21
mazal"entering rescue mode....18:21
captinewould be nice for him to have one for the debian conf :)18:22
mazal"grub rescue >_18:22
captinemazal, what laptop you using?  i have had many many issues with macbooks and booting from externals for linux18:22
Kilosmazal  what os is on your lappy?18:22
mazalHP Elitebook 8440p18:22
Kiloshd0 is the lappy drive18:23
mazalLaptop's internal has Kubuntu on ( that I am using now )18:23
Kilosok then plugin the external and use boot-repair18:23
mazalWhen putting external now the OS sees and opens both partitions fine18:23
Kiloswhat did you use to install to the external18:24
Kilossome desktop18:24
mazalAnd it boots fine in 2 other machines , so don't think there's something wrong with the drive18:24
mazalKilos: Lubuntu18:24
Kilosif you run sudo update-grub does it see the ext18:25
mazalInstalled from dvd18:25
mazalKilos: Must I run that in the current OS I am on now on the internal hdd ?18:26
Kilosya from your lappy18:26
mazalOk , how will I know if it sees it ?18:27
Kilosif the ext boot is good then it will say found18:27
mazalBut that will modify internal's grub ?18:27
Kilosno it will just give you the option to boot from the ext18:27
mazalIt will add the option to boot from external to internal grub menu ?18:28
Kilosya18:29
mazalHang on , let me give a paste18:29
Kilosin brub you will see the option18:29
Kilosgrub18:29
mazalhttp://bin.snyman.info/6wn2918:30
mazalThat very last line tells me it's sees it on sdb yes ?18:31
Kilosok now listen18:31
Kilosi gotta think a bit18:32
Kilossudo nano /etc/default/grub18:32
mazalSo now I can reboot , but from internal's grub and that should have the option to boot from that sdb entry ?18:32
Kilosand where it says grub-timeout thing just put a # at the start of that line18:33
mazalk hang on18:33
mazalThere's 3 timeout settings18:34
mazalThe one that just say grub-timeout yes ?18:34
Kilosjust has the line that complains18:34
KilosSetting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported18:34
Kiloshash that 1 line18:35
mazalhashed it out ( current setting was 10 )18:35
Kilosthen ctrl+o18:35
mazaldone18:35
Kilosenter an ctrl+x18:35
mazaldone18:35
Kilosthen reboot and you will have the choice to boot from external18:36
mazalk , rebooting18:36
Kilossjoe hope i got that right18:36
captine:)18:42
captineI have no idea... dont know the grub commands :)18:42
Padroni i have to leave for a minute18:43
Padronibbl18:43
mazalDidn't work oom. The entry is there in grub , but when I select it screen goes blank for 2 seconds and laptop reboots again18:43
Kilosok then install boot-repair18:47
Trixar_zaWorks great if you can find it18:47
Trixar_zaI think they broke the package for it a bit in favour of it's own LiveCD18:47
KilosMaaz  google boot-repair for 14.0418:48
MaazKilos: "[ubuntu] Boot-repair wont install in 14.04? - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2210685 :: "apt - Can't find boot-repair package for the newest version of Ubuntu ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/449818/cant-find-boot-repair-package-for-the-newest-version-of-ubuntu :: "How to install boot repair tool in ubuntu 14.04 live? - Ask18:48
MaazUbuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/489862/how-to-install-boot-repair-tool-in-ubuntu-14-04-…18:48
mazalI wonder if it's a hardware compatibility issue between the drive and the laptop usb interface18:50
KilosMaaz  google How to install boot repair tool in ubuntu 14.04 live18:50
MaazKilos: "How to install boot repair tool in ubuntu 14.04 live? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/489862/how-to-install-boot-repair-tool-in-ubuntu-14-04-live :: "Boot-Repair - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair :: "Grub2/Installing - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu ..."18:50
Maazhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing :: "[ubuntu] Boot-repair wont install in 14.04? - Ubunt…18:50
Kilossjoe18:51
mazalBusy installing boot-repair18:57
mazalWhen I run it , should I point it to the internal or external drive ?18:57
Kilosjust let it do its thing for starters18:59
Kilosdefault things methinks18:59
mazalBoot repaired succesfully19:02
mazalK , lemme reboot and see19:02
Kilosok19:02
captineok all.  2 ubuntu machines... whats the best way to edit files on the one from the other?  sshfs mount?  nfs?  want to use gui tools on my laptop to edit files on the server machine.19:02
Kilossjoe19:03
mazalnope , same thing still. Entry is there in grub , but when selected screen goes blank and laptop reboots19:05
Kilosai19:05
Kilossomething in lappy not happy19:06
Kilosoh19:06
mazalMust be a hardware compatibilty thing me thinks19:06
Kilosis your bios set to boot from usb19:06
mazalYep , that's first thing I checked19:06
Kiloshave you got another external you can try installing to with the lappy19:07
Kilosone to test with that is19:07
mazalNot one that I can format no19:07
mazalI have 4 externals , but all are used19:08
Kilosand a usb stick19:08
Kilos8g should be fine19:08
Kilosi have 12.04 installed on a 16g stick and boots from anywhere19:08
mazalI'm suspecting usb3 issue , very heavily suspecting that19:09
mazalLappy has usb2 ports19:09
mazalAnd the machines it does boot on has usb3 ports19:09
Kilosmaybe19:09
mazalMight be completely irrelevant though19:09
Kilosis usb3 backward compatible with usb219:10
mazalUsually yes19:10
mazalBut I don't know in that early boot stage if it is19:10
Kiloswhat does bios show as options for usb booting19:11
Kilosmine has 3 different things19:11
mazalI have "normally" used usb3 drives on usb2 without problems , but that's when a OS is already booted. Just copying data from it etc19:11
Kilosone is usb-zip19:11
mazalI have just one option "usb harddrive"19:12
Kilosi dunno mazal  sorry19:12
mazalThanx for trying oom19:12
Kilostry see what google says19:12
Kilossomeone must have had sam prob19:13
mazalWill try that19:13
Kilosif you dont mind working try remove the lappy drive then see if the extyernal boots19:13
Kilosif not then try install from dvd onto the external19:14
Kiloswb magespaw1  19:16
mazalJust a bunch of Windoze stuff :(19:17
mazalOn google that is19:17
Kilosai!19:18
mazalMost of them updated BIOS , might work for me too though19:18
Kilosmaybe19:18
mazalBut that , might be tricky19:18
Kilosthat can be quite a job though19:19
mazalYeah19:19
mazalAnd dangerous19:19
Kiloseasiest way i found was with xp in some bios upgrade tool in it19:19
Kilosthere is also flashrom in ubuntu and an irc channel19:20
Kilos#flashrom19:20
Kilosbut you gotta be clever to understand them19:21
mazalI'm not gonna mess with that me thinks19:22
mazalIf I mess up . laptop gone19:23
Kiloslol they have fixes even for bricked m/boards19:23
Kilosbut its all beyong me19:24
Kilosbeyond19:24
mazalI'll make another plan19:24
mazalIt's not even gaurenteed to work19:24
inetpromazal: you have a smaller USB flash drive?19:25
inetprotry booting from a smaller drive... as in less than 4GB19:25
inetproor smaller than 8GB19:25
mazalWill that show that's it's a size issue ?19:26
mazalIf it works19:26
mazalI have my usb stick that my custom live is on19:27
mazalAg no ! It's at work grrrrrrrrr19:28
inetproan earlier laptop of mine would not boot from anything more than 8GB19:28
inetproIIRC19:28
mazalWill have to test that tomorrow19:28
inetproI didn't try this but theoretically I think you should also be able to get away with it by making a smaller boot partition19:29
mazalI currently don't have a seperate boot19:30
mazalJust a / and a /data19:30
inetprogparted 19:30
mazalCan I do it without formatting the drive ?19:30
inetprowith gparted you can resize partitions 19:31
mazal200mb yes ?19:31
inetproI'm not saying it will work... but I would try that as an interesting experiment19:32
mazalOk , thanx for the tip , going to try it defnitely. But will be tomorrow. Eyes getting a bit tired now. Will let you know if it works19:32
inetpromazal: rule #119:33
inetpromake backups!!!19:33
mazalI only have 1 important folder on this drive. And that I backup daily to 2 different places ;)19:34
inetprorule #219:34
inetprorefer to rule #119:34
mazalSo I'm good with that :)19:34
mazalI'm sommer going to do a re-install to it , with seperate /boot19:35
mazalMan I'm curious now if that going to work , but too tired now hehehe19:36
Kiloslol19:36
mazalNight everyone , sleep well , thanx for the helps. God bless19:37
Kilosnight mazal  19:37
Kilossleep tight19:37
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:39
captinenight20:26

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