[04:44] <Kilos> hi inetpro  mazal and others
[04:50] <mazal> Môre oom
[04:53] <Padroni> Morning all
[04:53] <Kilos> hi Padroni  
[04:53] <Padroni> Start of a long day for me.  
[04:53] <Padroni> I'm only off work in 19 hours from now o.O
[04:53] <Kilos> eina
[04:54] <Kilos> can you at least nap in between?
[04:54] <mazal> Morning Padroni
[04:54] <mazal> oom Kilos: How do I tell my Kubuntu to keep my num lock status upon restart ?
[04:55] <Kilos> lol
[04:55] <Kilos> dont you set that when you install
[04:55] <Padroni> Off to play Warthunder for an hour.
[04:56] <Padroni> bbl
[04:56] <mazal> Nevermind , found it
[04:56] <Kilos> ok
[04:57]  * mazal hasn't gamed in a while
[04:57] <mazal> And now I wonder if there is a word gamed
[04:58] <Kilos> yes i think there is
[04:58] <Kilos> Maaz  define gamed
[04:58] <Maaz> Kilos: Game \Game\ (g[=a]m), v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Gamed} (g[=a]md); p. pr. & vb. n. {Gaming}.] [OE. gamen, game?en, to rejoice, AS. gamenian to play. See {Game}, n.] 1. To rejoice; to be pleased; -- often used, in Old English, impersonally with dative. [Obs.] [1913 Webster]  God loved he best with all his whole hearte At alle times, though him gamed or smarte.
[04:58] <Maaz> --Chaucer. [1913 Webster]  2. To play at any sport or diversion. [1913 Webster]  3. To play f…
[04:58] <mazal> It looks weird
[04:59] <mazal> Wow , to "rejoice" . Would have never thought it comes from there
[04:59] <Kilos> lol
[04:59] <mazal> Maaz you clever boy
[04:59] <Maaz> mazal: Sorry...
[05:00] <mazal> maaz dont start that again
[05:00] <Maaz> mazal: *blink*
[05:00] <mazal> maaz *kiss**
[05:00] <Maaz> mazal: Huh?
[05:00] <mazal> lol
[05:01] <Kilos> tell him shup
[05:01] <mazal> maaz shut up
[05:01] <Maaz> mazal: Excuse me?
[05:01] <Kilos> ai!
[05:01] <Kilos> shup
[05:01] <mazal> maaz shup
[05:01] <Maaz> Shup yourself oh noisy one
[05:01] <mazal> maaz devibe shup
[05:01] <Maaz> mazal: What?
[05:01] <mazal> maaz devine shup
[05:01] <Maaz> mazal: *blink*
[05:02] <mazal> maaz define shup
[05:02] <Maaz> mazal: I don't know about shup. Maybe you meant hup, Sup, Scup, Soup, Ship, Shop, Shug, Shun, Shut, sup, shtup, scup, soup, ship, shop, shua, shun or shut?
[05:02] <mazal> oh boy
[05:03] <Kilos> hehe
[05:03] <mazal> maaz sup
[05:03] <Maaz> Howzit mazal
[05:04] <mazal> maaz shut it
[05:04] <Maaz> mazal: Excuse me?
[05:04] <mazal> lol
[05:04] <mazal> maaz seen bduk
[05:04] <Maaz> mazal: bduk was last seen 13 days, 20 hours, 48 minutes and 28 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-02-05 00:16:13 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-02-14 10:59:33 PST
[05:04] <mazal> maaz seen bduk1
[05:04] <Maaz> mazal: bduk1 was last seen 12 days, 22 hours, 20 minutes and 47 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-02-05 22:44:02 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-02-17 09:22:38 PST
[05:05] <mazal> hmm , bduk still hasn't been able to fix his chat I see
[05:06] <Kilos> ai
[05:07] <mazal> Something interesting I see there though , maaz only registers if a user say something. Cos I know bduk was here 2 nights ago , just couldn't say anything
[05:07] <Kilos> thats right
[05:07] <mazal> But he was connected and joined the channel
[05:08] <mazal> We'll probably get it sorted on Monday when he is back
[05:13] <stickyboy> Kilos: Don't you sleep?
[05:13] <Kilos> yes stickyboy  but got work to do at this time
[05:13] <Kilos> unlocking gates etc
[05:17] <stickyboy> Kilos: Ah
[06:26] <Kilos> wb Padroni  
[06:28] <Padroni> ty
[06:34] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:34] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[06:44] <Jacques_Stry> Morning
[06:45] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry  
[06:49] <nlsthzn> o/
[06:49] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  wb lad
[06:49] <nlsthzn> hiya uncle Kilos 
[06:49] <Kilos> daddy again yet?
[06:49] <superfly> naand mense
[06:49] <Kilos> hi superfly  
[06:49] <nlsthzn> oh yes :D been a daddy since Thursday and also absent obviously
[06:50] <nlsthzn> daddy again I mean :p
[06:50] <superfly> yay nlsthzn!
[06:50] <nlsthzn> \o/
[06:50] <Kilos> congrats lad boy or girl?
[06:50] <nlsthzn> healthy baby boy :)
[06:50] <Kilos> wonderful
[06:50] <nlsthzn> very grateful and happy ^_^
[06:50] <Kilos> congrats mommy from us all too please
[06:50] <nlsthzn> was a nice firm 4.4kg at birth oo
[06:51] <nlsthzn> *too
[06:51] <Kilos> nice
[06:51] <Kilos> lol ian was 3 lbs 1 ounce
[06:51] <nlsthzn> will let her know when they finally wake-up ... going for almost 4 hours straight which is a nice break from the 2 hour routine zzz
[06:51] <Kilos> good
[06:52] <nlsthzn> 3 lbs... isn't that very low?
[06:52] <Kilos> ya he was 2 months 3 weeks early
[06:53] <nlsthzn> oh wow... 
[06:53] <nlsthzn> so glad he went full term... so much easier
[06:53] <Kilos> too nosy, didnt want to stay locked up
[06:53] <Kilos> yeah im happy for you
[06:53] <nlsthzn> this babies names are already causing everyone headaches :P I think he will be having a talk to his mom when he is older...
[06:54] <nlsthzn> Uilleann Bjørn
[06:55] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:55] <nlsthzn> the ø is a problem cause the PC systems for registrations can't handle it >.< so now his certificate comes out as Bj?rn
[06:55] <Kilos> lol
[06:55] <nlsthzn> name pronounced ilen bjurn
[06:55] <nlsthzn> so not so difficult :p
[06:56] <Kilos> poor child
[06:56] <nlsthzn> true
[06:56] <Kilos> before he was even born you decided to punish him 
[06:56] <nlsthzn> baby.. er duty calles :p
[06:57] <nlsthzn> calls :p
[06:57] <nlsthzn> bbl
[06:57] <Kilos> hahaha
[07:01] <Squirm> Morning
[07:01] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[07:04] <Padroni> congrats nlsthzn
[07:06] <Padroni>  I wonder when people will learn that a legal disclaimer in a mail does not hold up in court?
[07:07] <Padroni> you know that legal disclaimers people put at the end of their mails? Saying if their mail infects your computer with a virus, they are not liable?
[07:07] <Padroni> yeah - that does not hold water.  At all.
[07:07] <Padroni> waste of bits and bytes, to be honest.
[07:27] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac  
[07:28] <TinuvaMac> hey Kilos
[07:37] <inetpro> Padroni: not only do I wish we could get rid of email disclaimers but HTML emails with fancy signatures irks me to no end as well
[07:37] <inetpro> will we ever get rid of it? unfortunately no
[07:37] <Padroni> nothing wrong with a proper signature, imo
[07:37] <Padroni> I use an image for it though.
[07:38] <Padroni> It's a signature, not a f*cking biography / resume and I think that's the part that puts me off it as well
[07:38] <Padroni> So I agree with you there.
[07:38] <inetpro> plain text is more than good enough for me
[07:38] <inetpro> keep it simple and use it for the purpose of sending a message
[07:42]  * Squirm looks around
[07:42] <inetpro> Squirm: I'm here but you can't see me
[07:42] <nlsthzn> thanks Padroni and hi TinuvaMac inetpro and I think I missed superfly the first time around
[07:43] <Padroni> yw
[07:43] <inetpro> nlsthzn: congratulations!
[07:44] <superfly> Padroni: we have a client whose e-mails have one of those disclaimers
[07:44] <superfly> Padroni: so we get mails that say, "Thanks!" and then a disclaimer that is such a waste of bytes
[07:44] <superfly> it irks me no end
[07:45] <Kilos> lol
[07:45] <Padroni> It has as much effect as putting a bumper sticker on your car that says " I am not liable for any accidents I may cause or make while driving" and then ramming someone 
[07:45] <Kilos> i dont read that far
[07:46] <Kilos> the sent from my blackberry is also a pain
[07:46] <Padroni> oh yes
[07:46] <nlsthzn> thanks inetpro 
[07:46] <Padroni> imo - if you are using a blackberry, don't advertise it
[07:46] <Padroni> or take it out in public
[07:46] <Padroni> or or or
[07:46] <Kilos> lol
[07:48]  * Padroni hates blackberry
[07:48] <Padroni> I figured them out though
[07:48] <Padroni> RIM
[07:48] <Padroni> their business model was based on battery sales
[07:48] <Padroni> the blackberry was just there to hook you with
[07:48] <Padroni> what sank them were these cheap batteries from India and China that lasted longer than the original
[07:49] <Kilos> lol ya lots of the users carry a charged spare battery with them
[07:49] <Padroni> sales dropped on their batteries and they went belly-up
[07:50] <Kilos> hi Neo31  
[07:50] <Kilos> tunisia woke up
[07:50] <nlsthzn> what is the africa channel name again?
[07:50] <Neo31> lol
[07:50] <Neo31> mrning Kilos 
[07:50] <Kilos> #ubuntu-africa
[07:51] <Neo31> ubuntu-touch flash is gonna wake up in a minute :p
[07:51] <nlsthzn> thx
[07:56]  * Squirm spots inetpro doing something dodgy in the corner
[07:57] <Kilos> lol\
[07:57] <Kilos> ai!
[08:10] <Squirm> http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html
[08:11] <Squirm> Ubuntu phone flash sale just went live
[08:11] <Squirm> Only available in the EU, so you all best have your post boxes already set up :P
[08:20] <Kilos> hi SDCDev  
[08:20] <fairyface> fuck you Kilos 
[08:21] <Kilos> i beg your pardon
[08:21] <Padroni> fairyface:  you from CT or George?
[08:21] <Padroni> coz we pick you up in Cnr Longmarket and Ella st
[08:21] <fairyface> the new silicon valley
[08:21] <Padroni> As well as PE Tech library in George
[08:22] <fairyface> what are you talking about
[08:22] <Padroni> Your IP.
[08:22] <fairyface> what about it?
[08:22] <Padroni> I am tracing it.
[08:22] <fairyface> oh good. what have you found?
[08:22] <SDCDev> het Kilos
[08:22]  * Padroni sighs
[08:23] <SDCDev> hey*
[08:24] <Padroni> from the logs on your pc: that you watch a lot of pr0n
[08:24] <fairyface> haha  jenna haze
[08:26] <Kilos> inetpro  do you know this uncouth idiot?
[08:26] <fairyface> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Jenna_Haze_2009.jpg/400px-Jenna_Haze_2009.jpg
[08:26] <fairyface> everyone knows about jenna haze
[08:27] <Kilos> fairyface  http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct
[08:28] <Kilos> if you cant abide by that please leave
[08:28] <fairyface> the ubuntu spirit died decades ago
[08:30] <Kilos> in idiots yes
[08:30] <Jacques_Stry> WTH is going on here? Come back to flaming?
[08:30] <Kilos> this channel still follows it
[08:31] <fairyface> Kilos, no in real life
[08:31] <Jacques_Stry> fairyface, did you join the channel just to seek attention?
[08:31] <fairyface> yes
[08:32] <nlsthzn> just get an OP and kick em
[08:32] <Jacques_Stry> Basically - troll...
[08:32] <nlsthzn> easy as pie
[08:33] <Kilos> nlsthzn  at times it sometimes helps if you try help idiots grow up
[08:33] <nlsthzn> to little time, to many idios
[08:33] <nlsthzn> *idiots
[08:33] <Kilos> lol\
[08:39] <Padroni> bbl
[08:39] <Padroni> mail queues...
[08:39] <Kilos> enjoy
[08:46] <Kilos> ty superfly  
[08:46] <superfly> *sigh*
[08:47] <Kilos> i wonder what i di wrong
[08:47] <Kilos> did
[08:49] <superfly> Kilos: nothing. he's just a troll
[08:49] <Kilos> why pick on me though
[08:49] <superfly> and all he does is try to upset people, because he's an attention-seeking lowlife who derives pleasure from pouring abuse on others
[08:50] <Kilos> ah
[08:50] <Jacques_Stry> Your the first person that said something after he joined, could have been anyone
[08:50] <superfly> Kilos: because you actually said something just after he joined the channel
[08:50] <superfly> yes, what Jacques_Stry said
[08:50] <superfly> *youre
[08:50] <superfly> *you're
[08:50] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[08:50] <Kilos> lol ya i welcomed him here yesterday and was told im annoying
[08:54] <Jacques_Stry> Probably some 12 year old having a kick at irritating people.
[08:55] <Kilos> well not too stupid to not know how to cloak
[08:55] <Jacques_Stry> Mmmmm... true
[08:55] <Kilos> im asking in #freenode
[08:58] <nlsthzn> well he did have a cloak today
[09:09] <Kilos> - fairyface (~whatever@41.164.20.123) has left this server (Changing host).
[09:09] <Kilos> [19/02/2015 10:17] --> fairyface (~whatever@unaffiliated/fairyface) has joined this channel.
[09:21] <mazal> wow
[09:21] <mazal> Who is that guy ?
[09:26] <Kilos> ?
[09:32] <mazal> Daai vark wat so lelik was met oom
[09:33] <Kilos> lol
[09:33] <ryu13212> lol
[09:35] <Kilos> hi ryu13212  from  japan i think
[09:36] <ryu13212> Yeah Kilos that's true
[09:36]  * mazal check out his empty lunchbox
[09:37]  * mazal plots
[09:57] <mazal> ook Kilos , nuwe minetest is uit
[09:57] <mazal> Maar Ubu ppa's nog nie geupdate nie
[09:59] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:59] <Pad_away> any .vbs fundi's here?
[09:59] <Kilos> julle speel te veel en werk te min
[09:59] <mazal> 0.4.12 now
[09:59] <mazal> issie
[10:00] <Kilos> lol
[10:19] <Jacques_Stry> Watse minetest mods gebruik julle?
[10:22] <Jacques_Stry> of speel julle vanilla
[11:25] <mazal> Jacques_Stry: Ek verkies om nie mods apart te gebruik nie , mens moet redelik baie mods laai om die game behoorlik speelbaar te maak en om daai mods op datum te hou kan nogal baie werk raak
[11:25] <mazal> Ek verkies om 'n goeie "subgame" te gebruik wat reeds al die beste mods inhet
[11:25] <mazal> Dan is dit net een ding wat jy update elke keer ( die subgame )
[11:26] <mazal> Ek kan ten sterkste VanessaE se Dreambuilder subgame aanbeveel. Hy het alles in wat jy ooit kan nodig kry
[11:26] <mazal> Jacques_Stry: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9196
[11:40] <Jacques_Stry> Got it thanks :)
[11:43] <mazal> Jacques_Stry: Just don't enable the "preload item visuals " setting
[11:44] <Jacques_Stry> I guess it's a end of the world type spell that makes your computer implode on itself, or just makes it lag for a while
[11:45] <mazal> You referring to that setting ?
[11:52] <Pad_away> What is minetest?
[11:52] <Pad_away> If I may ask?
[11:53] <mazal> Pad_away: It's a free alternative to Minecraft
[11:54] <mazal> That's the short answer :)
[11:54] <mazal> Well maintained , actively developed , and a lot of mods
[11:54] <mazal> And seriously addictive :P
[11:55] <mazal> https://forum.minetest.net/index.php
[12:48] <mazal> Bye everyone , God bless
[13:48]  * nlsthzn has an additional copy of minecraft that I accidentally purchased some time ago >.<
[13:53] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:53] <Kilos> you got too many things on your plate lad
[13:54] <Kilos> i nearly slept the avy away
[14:00] <nlsthzn> :)
[14:00] <nlsthzn> and now I have gone and bought the new (and first) ubuntu phone...
[14:00] <nlsthzn> grrr... impulses
[14:00] <nlsthzn> *sigh*
[14:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> be sure to make some good apps for it too
[14:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> nowadays a smartphone without a decept app market is going nowhere
[14:05]  * nlsthzn isn't a developer... I am hardly an end user
[14:08] <highvoltage> that's ok. that puts you squarely inside the target market of the ubuntu phone ;)
[14:09] <AlphaG> gooie môre
[14:12] <Kilos> aha
[14:13] <Kilos> lol you in japan but speak the taal
[14:14] <Kilos> AlphaG  talking to you
[14:16] <AlphaG> japan?
[14:16] <Kilos> ai!
[14:16] <Kilos> lemme scroll back
[14:17] <Kilos> ryu13212 is now known as Alpha_1.
[14:17] <AlphaG> freenode web irc
[14:17] <Kilos> sorry wrong guy
[14:17] <Kilos> AlphaG  wb
[14:18] <AlphaG> van die kaap
[14:18] <nlsthzn> ... will see if the open source crowd here want to take it off my hands to play with.. if not then I will use it :)
[14:18] <AlphaG> anyone got their hands on an ubuntu phone
[14:24] <superfly> AlphaG: nlsthzn just ordered one...
[14:28] <mazal> Can someone explain to me , Kubuntu , I go to the software updater , run check for updates and it returns " no updates available ". I don't believe it , run apt-get update in cli and it returns a whole stack of updates. Why does this happen that software updater don't see updates apt-get update does ?
[14:31] <Kilos> you didnt reload it mazal  
[14:31] <Kilos> reload refresh
[14:31] <mazal> Reload what ? I chose check for updates and it scanned the repos. What else must it reload ?
[14:32] <Kilos> that
[14:32] <mazal> But it did that
[14:32] <mazal> And returned no updates available
[14:32] <Kilos> have you got synaptic
[14:32] <Kilos> works better
[14:32]  * nlsthzn did
[14:33] <mazal> So there is a major problem with software updater on Kubuntu
[14:33] <Kilos> mazal  if you run upgrade what does it show
[14:33] <nlsthzn> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:33] <nlsthzn> :p
[14:33] <Kilos> and use aptitude
[14:33] <nlsthzn> apt-get has supercow powers
[14:33] <mazal> Like I said . apt-get update return and did lots of updates , at least about 25
[14:33] <Kilos> aptitude does the kernel stuff as well
[14:33] <mazal> that worked fine
[14:34] <nlsthzn> and if in doubt also try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get kernels stuff too :p
[14:34] <nlsthzn> if you need it
[14:34] <nlsthzn> ;)
[14:34] <AlphaG> sudo apt-get an ubuntu phone
[14:34] <Kilos> lol
[14:34] <mazal> nlsthzn: From now on I will defnitely use apt-get only on Kubuntu after what I just saw
[14:35] <nlsthzn> I don't normally have issues with any of the ways to update but terminal makes it less complicated and gives more feedback IMO
[14:35] <nlsthzn> AlphaG, :)
[14:36] <mazal> If it wasn't that I saw on my server's software updater ( Lubuntu ) that there is updates I wouldn't even have known there is according to K's software updater.
[14:37] <Kilos> mazal  you turned it off them
[14:37] <Kilos> you can make it check daily if you like
[14:37] <mazal> You can't trun off a manual check
[14:37] <mazal> I ran a manual check
[14:37] <mazal> And it found zilts
[14:38] <superfly> mazal: I don't know, I've looked for a "reload" or a "update" button, and they don't seem to exist
[14:38] <Kilos> you fiddled in the settings again man
[14:38] <superfly> and on top of that, it's dog slow
[14:38] <superfly> I just use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[14:39] <mazal> superfly: It check automatically when you open it
[14:40] <AlphaG> who are all these ppl here?
[14:40] <AlphaG> ./whois everyone.
[14:41] <Kilos> lol lots of new guys 
[14:41] <mazal> superfly: I'll use that way on this , but I always forget the command for kernels
[14:42] <AlphaG> is there an app for ubuntu that allows u to share screen feed of a mobile phone
[14:42] <mazal> The dist-upgrade , I can never remember that one
[14:42] <superfly> mazal: kernels? I don't understand?
[14:42] <mazal> just upgrade doesn't do the kernels
[14:42] <AlphaG> a blackberry screen emulator
[14:42] <superfly> mazal: no, upgrade does kernels
[14:43] <mazal> It never did for me
[14:43] <superfly> mazal: what upgrade doesn't do is pull in new dependencies
[14:43] <superfly> dist-upgrade will pull in new dependencies
[14:43] <mazal> Whenever I do upgrade the kernels doesn't update
[14:44] <mazal> They stay listed in the update notifier
[14:51] <Kilos> wb AlphaG_  
[14:51] <AlphaG_> back button sucks
[14:56] <Kilos> my sister has a curve, and always something hassles
[15:00] <arnaudmez> Hi Guys
[15:01] <Kilos> hi arnaudmez  
[15:05] <arnaudmez> A friend of mine have killed hdd of his VM
[15:05] <arnaudmez> almost killed his vmdk
[15:06] <arnaudmez> he's getting error 5: input/output error
[15:06] <arnaudmez> someone to help ?
[15:07] <Kilos> arnaudmez  what system is he running
[15:07] <arnaudmez> VMware ESXi with WinMachine on it
[15:08] <Kilos> i think is has become corrupted
[15:08] <Kilos> has he run virus and malware scans
[15:09] <Kilos> now where is padowan
[15:11] <arnaudmez> De facto, he get that error as soon as he switch the VM back ON
[15:14] <Kilos> arnaudmez  http://www.veeam.com/vmware-esxi-fastscp.html
[15:14] <Kilos> or google De Facto error when booting from VMware ESXi with WinMachine on it
[15:15] <Kilos> maybe they have a forum somewhere or irc channel
[15:18] <Kilos> imo first move is to make a backup
[15:18] <Kilos> or just copy all needed data to another drive
[15:31] <Kilos> ok now i need advice please. does cc in email just send same mail to othjer peeps as well or is there more to it
[15:33] <Kilos> dont all answer at once
[15:36] <arnaudmez> Kilos: thank you so much
[15:36] <Pad_away> Same mail to other peeps
[15:36] <Pad_away> original sender will see the CC's though.
[15:36] <Kilos> did you come right arnaudmez  ?
[15:36] <Pad_away> BCC or blindcc if you don't want original recipient to know others getting mail as well
[15:37] <Kilos> ty padowan
[15:37] <Kilos> im the original cendre but neve used it before
[15:38] <Kilos> sender
[15:38] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:38] <arnaudmez> Kilos: not yet ... look like the disk have to be checked or something like that
[15:38] <Kilos> arnaudmez  here is an idea you can try
[15:39] <Kilos> first try save the data then boot from ubuntu cd and install testdisk
[15:39] <Kilos> then run testdisk and once its done tell it write
[15:39] <Kilos> takes long time though
[15:39] <arnaudmez> That's a killing method
[15:40] <arnaudmez> the host we are talking about is corp machine and you all know better than me what "governance" means
[15:40] <Pad_away> you may be able to see the CC / BCC if you check headers
[15:41] <arnaudmez> i don't wanna kill that bro of mine with Geek method
[15:41] <Kilos> lol
[15:42] <Kilos> then run antivirus and malware scans on it first
[15:42] <Kilos> anything with win in it is a target for bad things
[15:47] <Kilos> hi Tonberry  
[15:47] <Tonberry> hi
[15:47]  * Padroni 105.237.172.204
[15:47] <Kilos> Padroni  whats that
[15:48] <Padroni> Tonberry ' s IP
[15:48] <Kilos> hes a good guy
[15:48]  * Padroni powers down the Low Orbit Ion Cannon
[15:48] <Padroni> ok Kilos
[15:48] <Kilos> ty though
[15:49] <Padroni> now what kind of idiot sends a mail to ME and then CC's ME in the mail?
[15:49] <Padroni> *sigh*
[15:49] <Kilos> they want to make sure you get it hehe
[15:50] <Kilos> you gonna be falling off the chair before this shift ends
[15:50] <Padroni> had a huge argument with a client's 'IT guy' yesterday
[15:50] <Kilos> again
[15:50] <Kilos> haha
[15:51] <Padroni> Anyone that calls himself an 'IT guy' is a f*cking twat and will NOT be taken seriously. <-- my new stance on this.
[15:51] <Kilos> neelsie put a mommy baby pic on picpaste.com
[15:53] <Kilos> nlsthzn  not fb or g+ for me
[15:59] <Padroni> going through support tickets now
[15:59] <Padroni> Client mails in : she has a new website up but Google still shows the details of the old site in search results
[15:59] <Padroni> Jnr manager advises client to delete her website
[15:59] <Padroni> DELETE HER WEBSITE FOR A CACHING / INDEXING ISSUE IN GOOGLE.
[16:00] <Padroni> I am telling you - these people leave me speechless sometimes...
[16:00] <Kilos> lol
[16:03] <Kilos> Padroni  just smile and endure it, it will get worse
[16:11] <nlsthzn> Kilos, hang on
[16:11] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn  
[16:12] <Kilos> i need to see my chillens chillen
[16:15]  * mazal plots , plans and sceems
[16:25] <Padroni> ok
[16:25] <Padroni> so now when I get spam
[16:25] <Padroni> I check if they have a site
[16:25] <Padroni> then I scan for vuln's on that site
[16:25] <Padroni> and I break it.
[16:26] <Padroni> because tonight, I have time on my hands.
[16:26] <Kilos> yay
[16:27] <Kilos> ty neelsie, so cute
[16:27] <mazal> Padroni: You work for an ISP ?
[16:27] <Padroni> No.  A web hosting company.
[16:27] <Padroni> and some people are dumb enough to send spam to abuse@ which is MY mailbox
[16:28] <Padroni> the funniest is when it's our own clients.
[16:28] <mazal> Sounds like your on a mission tonight :)
[16:28] <Padroni> not really
[16:28] <Padroni> but I do have the time
[16:29] <Padroni> I got 7.5 hours to kill
[16:29] <Padroni> and lots of hack tools to play with.
[16:29] <Padroni> so yeah.
[16:29] <Kilos> time spent wisely saves more time in the future
[16:30] <Padroni> true
[16:31] <Kilos> everything i say is true except when its false
[17:03] <captine> evening alls
[17:03] <Kilos> hi captine  
[17:04] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:07] <captine> enjoy
[17:07] <captine> just finishe
[17:21] <Kilos> sjoe tummy full, eyes pulling closed
[17:27] <Kilos> hi bduk1  
[17:27] <Kilos> inetpro  warm ne
[17:41] <SDCDev> maggie vol, ogies toe?
[17:42] <Kilos> lol
[17:42] <Kilos> must be getting old
[17:42] <Kilos> too much work for ballies
[17:42] <SDCDev> :< hehehe try taking 7 weeks off... jeez stamina just goes to shit
[17:43] <Kilos> lol
[17:43] <Kilos> im always off, but still too much work
[17:44] <Kilos> Maaz  seen mage
[17:44] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know who mage is
[17:44] <Kilos> ai!
[17:44] <Kilos> Maaz  seen magespawn
[17:44] <Maaz> Kilos: magespawn was last seen 22 hours, 10 minutes and 26 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-02-18 11:34:07 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-02-18 11:34:28 PST
[17:53] <inetpro> Kilos: http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/funding/
[17:54] <Kilos> sigh
[17:55] <inetpro> you want the phone then follow the guide
[17:55] <Kilos> where is the Community Donations portal [1].
[17:55] <Kilos> did you read your mail
[17:55] <inetpro> Kilos: did you read the instructions?
[17:55] <Kilos> i cant find that thing man
[17:56] <Kilos> ya ive read me sick
[17:56] <Kilos> i dont want the fone
[17:56] <inetpro> Kilos: uh
[17:56] <Kilos> well i do as well but that can wait
[17:56] <inetpro> please try again
[17:57] <Kilos> ai!
[17:58] <inetpro> Kilos: if you don't want the phone then let those who want it apply for themselves
[17:59] <Kilos> ai!
[17:59] <inetpro> or make it a team effort and do a proper funding request as a team
[18:00] <Kilos> yaya thats the way you in my team to get fly a fone
[18:00] <inetpro> ai!
[18:00] <Kilos> lol
[18:03] <Kilos> is it that fill in a form thing?
[18:12] <magespawn> good evening
[18:13] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[18:17] <inetpro> Kilos: obviously
[18:18] <Kilos> so do i have the support of the team or what
[18:20] <mazal> Can someone help me with this problem maybe please :
[18:20] <mazal> I have ubuntu installed on an external hdd
[18:20] <mazal> Boots fine on 2 different pc's , but when trying to boot on my laptop I get this :
[18:21] <captine> kilos, sorry, missed the conversatuion
[18:21] <captine> u wanting to order a phone?
[18:21] <mazal> " Error: attempt to read or write outside of disc 'hd0'
[18:21] <Kilos> nope i want them to give fly one
[18:21] <mazal> "entering rescue mode....
[18:22] <captine> would be nice for him to have one for the debian conf :)
[18:22] <mazal> "grub rescue >_
[18:22] <captine> mazal, what laptop you using?  i have had many many issues with macbooks and booting from externals for linux
[18:22] <Kilos> mazal  what os is on your lappy?
[18:22] <mazal> HP Elitebook 8440p
[18:23] <Kilos> hd0 is the lappy drive
[18:23] <mazal> Laptop's internal has Kubuntu on ( that I am using now )
[18:23] <Kilos> ok then plugin the external and use boot-repair
[18:23] <mazal> When putting external now the OS sees and opens both partitions fine
[18:24] <Kilos> what did you use to install to the external
[18:24] <Kilos> some desktop
[18:24] <mazal> And it boots fine in 2 other machines , so don't think there's something wrong with the drive
[18:24] <mazal> Kilos: Lubuntu
[18:25] <Kilos> if you run sudo update-grub does it see the ext
[18:25] <mazal> Installed from dvd
[18:26] <mazal> Kilos: Must I run that in the current OS I am on now on the internal hdd ?
[18:26] <Kilos> ya from your lappy
[18:27] <mazal> Ok , how will I know if it sees it ?
[18:27] <Kilos> if the ext boot is good then it will say found
[18:27] <mazal> But that will modify internal's grub ?
[18:27] <Kilos> no it will just give you the option to boot from the ext
[18:28] <mazal> It will add the option to boot from external to internal grub menu ?
[18:29] <Kilos> ya
[18:29] <mazal> Hang on , let me give a paste
[18:29] <Kilos> in brub you will see the option
[18:29] <Kilos> grub
[18:30] <mazal> http://bin.snyman.info/6wn29
[18:31] <mazal> That very last line tells me it's sees it on sdb yes ?
[18:31] <Kilos> ok now listen
[18:32] <Kilos> i gotta think a bit
[18:32] <Kilos> sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[18:32] <mazal> So now I can reboot , but from internal's grub and that should have the option to boot from that sdb entry ?
[18:33] <Kilos> and where it says grub-timeout thing just put a # at the start of that line
[18:33] <mazal> k hang on
[18:34] <mazal> There's 3 timeout settings
[18:34] <mazal> The one that just say grub-timeout yes ?
[18:34] <Kilos> just has the line that complains
[18:34] <Kilos> Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported
[18:35] <Kilos> hash that 1 line
[18:35] <mazal> hashed it out ( current setting was 10 )
[18:35] <Kilos> then ctrl+o
[18:35] <mazal> done
[18:35] <Kilos> enter an ctrl+x
[18:35] <mazal> done
[18:36] <Kilos> then reboot and you will have the choice to boot from external
[18:36] <mazal> k , rebooting
[18:36] <Kilos> sjoe hope i got that right
[18:42] <captine> :)
[18:42] <captine> I have no idea... dont know the grub commands :)
[18:43] <Padroni>  i have to leave for a minute
[18:43] <Padroni> bbl
[18:43] <mazal> Didn't work oom. The entry is there in grub , but when I select it screen goes blank for 2 seconds and laptop reboots again
[18:47] <Kilos> ok then install boot-repair
[18:47] <Trixar_za> Works great if you can find it
[18:47] <Trixar_za> I think they broke the package for it a bit in favour of it's own LiveCD
[18:48] <Kilos> Maaz  google boot-repair for 14.04
[18:48] <Maaz> Kilos: "[ubuntu] Boot-repair wont install in 14.04? - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2210685 :: "apt - Can't find boot-repair package for the newest version of Ubuntu ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/449818/cant-find-boot-repair-package-for-the-newest-version-of-ubuntu :: "How to install boot repair tool in ubuntu 14.04 live? - Ask
[18:48] <Maaz> Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/489862/how-to-install-boot-repair-tool-in-ubuntu-14-04-…
[18:50] <mazal> I wonder if it's a hardware compatibility issue between the drive and the laptop usb interface
[18:50] <Kilos> Maaz  google How to install boot repair tool in ubuntu 14.04 live
[18:50] <Maaz> Kilos: "How to install boot repair tool in ubuntu 14.04 live? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/489862/how-to-install-boot-repair-tool-in-ubuntu-14-04-live :: "Boot-Repair - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair :: "Grub2/Installing - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu ..."
[18:50] <Maaz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing :: "[ubuntu] Boot-repair wont install in 14.04? - Ubunt…
[18:51] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:57] <mazal> Busy installing boot-repair
[18:57] <mazal> When I run it , should I point it to the internal or external drive ?
[18:59] <Kilos> just let it do its thing for starters
[18:59] <Kilos> default things methinks
[19:02] <mazal> Boot repaired succesfully
[19:02] <mazal> K , lemme reboot and see
[19:02] <Kilos> ok
[19:02] <captine> ok all.  2 ubuntu machines... whats the best way to edit files on the one from the other?  sshfs mount?  nfs?  want to use gui tools on my laptop to edit files on the server machine.
[19:03] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:05] <mazal> nope , same thing still. Entry is there in grub , but when selected screen goes blank and laptop reboots
[19:05] <Kilos> ai
[19:06] <Kilos> something in lappy not happy
[19:06] <Kilos> oh
[19:06] <mazal> Must be a hardware compatibilty thing me thinks
[19:06] <Kilos> is your bios set to boot from usb
[19:06] <mazal> Yep , that's first thing I checked
[19:07] <Kilos> have you got another external you can try installing to with the lappy
[19:07] <Kilos> one to test with that is
[19:07] <mazal> Not one that I can format no
[19:08] <mazal> I have 4 externals , but all are used
[19:08] <Kilos> and a usb stick
[19:08] <Kilos> 8g should be fine
[19:08] <Kilos> i have 12.04 installed on a 16g stick and boots from anywhere
[19:09] <mazal> I'm suspecting usb3 issue , very heavily suspecting that
[19:09] <mazal> Lappy has usb2 ports
[19:09] <mazal> And the machines it does boot on has usb3 ports
[19:09] <Kilos> maybe
[19:09] <mazal> Might be completely irrelevant though
[19:10] <Kilos> is usb3 backward compatible with usb2
[19:10] <mazal> Usually yes
[19:10] <mazal> But I don't know in that early boot stage if it is
[19:11] <Kilos> what does bios show as options for usb booting
[19:11] <Kilos> mine has 3 different things
[19:11] <mazal> I have "normally" used usb3 drives on usb2 without problems , but that's when a OS is already booted. Just copying data from it etc
[19:11] <Kilos> one is usb-zip
[19:12] <mazal> I have just one option "usb harddrive"
[19:12] <Kilos> i dunno mazal  sorry
[19:12] <mazal> Thanx for trying oom
[19:12] <Kilos> try see what google says
[19:13] <Kilos> someone must have had sam prob
[19:13] <mazal> Will try that
[19:13] <Kilos> if you dont mind working try remove the lappy drive then see if the extyernal boots
[19:14] <Kilos> if not then try install from dvd onto the external
[19:16] <Kilos> wb magespaw1  
[19:17] <mazal> Just a bunch of Windoze stuff :(
[19:17] <mazal> On google that is
[19:18] <Kilos> ai!
[19:18] <mazal> Most of them updated BIOS , might work for me too though
[19:18] <Kilos> maybe
[19:18] <mazal> But that , might be tricky
[19:19] <Kilos> that can be quite a job though
[19:19] <mazal> Yeah
[19:19] <mazal> And dangerous
[19:19] <Kilos> easiest way i found was with xp in some bios upgrade tool in it
[19:20] <Kilos> there is also flashrom in ubuntu and an irc channel
[19:20] <Kilos> #flashrom
[19:21] <Kilos> but you gotta be clever to understand them
[19:22] <mazal> I'm not gonna mess with that me thinks
[19:23] <mazal> If I mess up . laptop gone
[19:23] <Kilos> lol they have fixes even for bricked m/boards
[19:24] <Kilos> but its all beyong me
[19:24] <Kilos> beyond
[19:24] <mazal> I'll make another plan
[19:24] <mazal> It's not even gaurenteed to work
[19:25] <inetpro> mazal: you have a smaller USB flash drive?
[19:25] <inetpro> try booting from a smaller drive... as in less than 4GB
[19:25] <inetpro> or smaller than 8GB
[19:26] <mazal> Will that show that's it's a size issue ?
[19:26] <mazal> If it works
[19:27] <mazal> I have my usb stick that my custom live is on
[19:28] <mazal> Ag no ! It's at work grrrrrrrrr
[19:28] <inetpro> an earlier laptop of mine would not boot from anything more than 8GB
[19:28] <inetpro> IIRC
[19:28] <mazal> Will have to test that tomorrow
[19:29] <inetpro> I didn't try this but theoretically I think you should also be able to get away with it by making a smaller boot partition
[19:30] <mazal> I currently don't have a seperate boot
[19:30] <mazal> Just a / and a /data
[19:30] <inetpro> gparted 
[19:30] <mazal> Can I do it without formatting the drive ?
[19:31] <inetpro> with gparted you can resize partitions 
[19:31] <mazal> 200mb yes ?
[19:32] <inetpro> I'm not saying it will work... but I would try that as an interesting experiment
[19:32] <mazal> Ok , thanx for the tip , going to try it defnitely. But will be tomorrow. Eyes getting a bit tired now. Will let you know if it works
[19:33] <inetpro> mazal: rule #1
[19:33] <inetpro> make backups!!!
[19:34] <mazal> I only have 1 important folder on this drive. And that I backup daily to 2 different places ;)
[19:34] <inetpro> rule #2
[19:34] <inetpro> refer to rule #1
[19:34] <mazal> So I'm good with that :)
[19:35] <mazal> I'm sommer going to do a re-install to it , with seperate /boot
[19:36] <mazal> Man I'm curious now if that going to work , but too tired now hehehe
[19:36] <Kilos> lol
[19:37] <mazal> Night everyone , sleep well , thanx for the helps. God bless
[19:37] <Kilos> night mazal  
[19:37] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:39] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:26] <captine> night