[05:08] <belalobo> hello everyone! I just reebooted my laptop and the windows appeared in a strange way not showing the x to close them for example. any help on how to fix this please_ thanks
[15:24] <exxxit> hi everyone. Upon booting my laotop this morning i noticed the windows do not show the X to close them. the grafical interface is a bit strange. any help on how to fix this please? thanks
[15:27] <exxxit> laptop*
[15:28] <exxxit> also I cannot change desktops
[15:29] <exxxit> nor resize windows
[18:21] <exxxit> Hello everyone! I was here earlier but had to leave. This morning upon booting my laptop I noticed I had no x on all windows to close them, cannot resize them either or change desktops. Can anyone please help me fix this? thanks
[18:33] <holstein> exxxit: hello
[18:33] <holstein> exxxit: sounds to me like, you may have tried to implement compiz? or something that broke your window decorations?
[18:34] <exxxit> hello
[18:34] <exxxit> no not at all been there before
[18:34] <exxxit> no playing with compiz again
[18:34] <holstein> 13:34 < exxxit> no not at all been there before
[18:34] <holstein> so, they have *never* been there?
[18:34] <holstein> regardless.. this is what i would do
[18:35] <holstein> i would test with the guest account, and/or another user account.. if all is well there, i know the system is *not* broken, and i go to resetting my users configs for the desktop
[18:35] <exxxit> ok i'll try looging in as another user
[18:35] <exxxit> I'll be back in a sec
[18:36] <holstein> try as the guest user, and see if all is well, and if so, consider just simply resetting your configs..
[18:36] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/224006/resetting-xfce-panels-to-default-settings for example, is how to reset the panel
[18:36] <holstein> for me, i would simly move or rename  ~/.config/xfce4
[18:37] <holstein> i would then, relog and make sure that all is well, and go from there with a default setup
[18:37] <exxxit> hey I'm back
[18:38] <exxxit> all is well when i log in as another user
[18:38] <holstein> sure. so, you can move on to the other text i have posted above that explians what i would do to reset the "broken" configs
[18:39] <holstein> exxxit: you know that its *not* an issue (very likely, at least) with the main system.. no need to "sudo" do *anything*, or remove, reinstall, break, add, any system packages or configs
[18:39] <exxxit> so in the link you sent me there is an option to do it all in one line on the cli
[18:40] <holstein> exxxit: sure
[18:40] <exxxit> I think I can use that
[18:40] <holstein> exxxit: do what you like
[18:40] <holstein> exxxit: what *is* suggest is, *not* rm'ing anything
[18:40] <holstein> no need to
[18:40] <holstein> just simply move, or rename it
[18:40] <exxxit> so I should just rename the folder xfce4?
[18:40] <holstein> you can do that from a live CD, if you have no UI.. or the terminal.. literally any way you feel comfortable to reset the configs
[18:41] <holstein> exxxit: you shoud read about, and understand what renaming that directory does
[18:41] <holstein> exxxit: there is no "should".. just your broken config, and ways to resolve the issue
[18:41] <exxxit> I'm a bit stuck my browser does not show properly
[18:41] <holstein> exxxit: one easy way to reset that, and be able to revert is, just simply move or rename that config for xfce
[18:42] <holstein> exxxit: as i said, you can do this from a live cd, or the terminal, or tty
[18:42] <holstein> !tty
[18:42] <exxxit> so I'll just rename it log out and them back in?
[18:42] <holstein> exxxit: if thats the way you want to proceed, sure
[18:43] <holstein> exxxit: that will make the system create a new fresh config for *all* of the xfce elements that are broken for you
[18:43] <holstein> exxxit: and, you will still have the current settings in the renamed directory
[18:43] <exxxit> ok and them I can calmly set it up again
[18:43] <exxxit> okok I think I got it
[18:43] <exxxit> I'll give it a try
[18:43] <holstein> exxxit: i cant speak for your demeanor, during the process, but, yes..
[18:43] <exxxit> do I have to do it on the TTY?
[18:44] <holstein> you can either, find that, actually, this *doesnt* "Fix" anything, and you can easilly revert to exactly what you have now
[18:44] <holstein> or, you will find it does fix the issue, andyou can put parts of the config back, or do what you like
[18:44] <exxxit> ok
[18:45] <holstein> if you do *exaxctly* the same, you can likely break it in the same way you did last time, so be aware
[18:45] <exxxit> yes i understand
[18:45] <exxxit> just one more question i have two folders one named xfce4 and xfce4-session
[18:45] <exxxit> anything to do with that?
[19:05] <exxxit> still not getting the x in the windows but the desktop seems to have reverted to the original state
[19:05] <exxxit> half of ot
[19:05] <exxxit> half of it
[19:06] <exxxit> does that all in one line command take a long time to execute?
[19:07] <exxxit> i get a : respawning too fast, stopped message
[19:09] <holstein> 14:05 [freenode] -exxxit(~beka@109.49.148.222)- hi again the problme seems to be half fixed or so
[19:09] <holstein> exxxit: what did you rename?
[19:09] <exxxit> i renamed xfce4
[19:09] <holstein> exxxit: you mean, ~/.config/fxce4 ?
[19:10] <exxxit> yes
[19:10] <holstein> exxxit: the path is important..
[19:10] <exxxit> yes i deleted xfce4
[19:10] <exxxit> not fxce4
[19:11] <exxxit> in the ~/.config  folder
[19:11] <exxxit> I tried renaming it
[19:11] <exxxit> now I have just deleted it
[19:11] <holstein> deleted? or renamed? becuase, i personally specifically suggested *not* deleting it
[19:11] <exxxit> already done that ... :/ deleted
[19:12] <exxxit> I deleted logged out and back in again
[19:12] <holstein> sure.. so, you should get a default one..
[19:12] <exxxit> yes I should
[19:12] <holstein> and now, with no way to revert
[19:12] <holstein> since, you did something on your own, which is fine.. im just making you aware that you cant revert now.. as i was leaving you a way to do so
[19:12] <exxxit> but the desktop now seems like a mix of what I had and a freash install
[19:13] <exxxit> and the coommand does not exit
[19:13] <holstein> exxxit: i may move the *entire* ~/.config and see if that solved the problem
[19:13] <holstein> exxxit: what command?
[19:13] <exxxit> the long command on the link
[19:14] <exxxit> xfce4-panel --quit ; pkill xfconfd ; rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/panel ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml ; xfce4-panel;
[19:14] <exxxit> i'm getting this: init: indicator-sound respawning too fast, stopped
[19:14] <exxxit> with no exit
[19:14] <holstein> exxxit: thats *Just* an example
[19:15] <exxxit> hum..
[19:15] <holstein> exxxit: thats specifically for the panel
[19:15] <holstein> exxxit: not your problem at all
[19:15] <exxxit> oh ok great
[19:15] <exxxit> :p
[19:15] <holstein> exxxit: i suggested the *entire* ~/.config/xfce4 directory
[19:15] <holstein> which included that reset for the panel
[19:15] <holstein> exxxit: i dont suggest that you need to kill and restart the panel
[19:16] <holstein> exxxit: you just need to identify what is broken in your config, and let a new config respawn
[19:16] <exxxit> I dont mind gwtting the fresh look again on the desktop
[19:16] <exxxit> getting*
[19:16] <holstein> exxxit: one *easy* and quick way to see if this is *even* the issue is, to simly move or rename the *entire* ~/.config
[19:16] <exxxit> what should I delete?
[19:16] <holstein> exxxit: *nothing*
[19:17] <holstein> exxxit: i *never* said delete anything.. i actually specifically still suggest that you dont need to delete anything
[19:17] <exxxit> so i should call the ~/.config folder something like ~/.config2? for ex?
[19:17] <holstein> exxxit: you can simply move or rename the config directory
[19:17] <holstein> exxxit: you can simpley move it.. out of where it is.. or rename it literally whatever you like
[19:18] <exxxit> so I rename or mv the ~/.config directory log out and then back in?
[19:19] <exxxit> thats it?
[19:21] <holstein> exxxit: friend.. in order to get a new one to respawn, thats how
[19:21] <exxxit> ok
[19:21] <holstein> exxxit: im not suggesting this is a "fix" at all.. its a way to see if your issue is isolated in the ~/.config
[19:21] <exxxit> ok I'll try now
[19:21] <holstein> exxxit: its the way i would go about isolating that and testing.. and since i havent deleted anything, i can revert.. so there is no issue
[19:46] <mauro> I was exxxit
[19:46] <mauro> with the issue on xfce4
[19:46] <mauro> I'm giving up
[19:47] <mauro> This is time consuming and I dont even know how I got here
[19:47] <holstein> mauro: cool.. let a volunteer know if they can assist.. and try #xubuntu if the channel is slow
[19:47] <mauro> its frustrating
[19:47] <holstein> yup.. it can be
[19:47] <holstein> i say, plan having good backups, and ways to revert..