[05:08] hello everyone! I just reebooted my laptop and the windows appeared in a strange way not showing the x to close them for example. any help on how to fix this please_ thanks === \b is now known as benonsoftware [15:24] hi everyone. Upon booting my laotop this morning i noticed the windows do not show the X to close them. the grafical interface is a bit strange. any help on how to fix this please? thanks [15:27] laptop* [15:28] also I cannot change desktops [15:29] nor resize windows === larry is now known as Guest61619 [18:21] Hello everyone! I was here earlier but had to leave. This morning upon booting my laptop I noticed I had no x on all windows to close them, cannot resize them either or change desktops. Can anyone please help me fix this? thanks [18:33] exxxit: hello [18:33] exxxit: sounds to me like, you may have tried to implement compiz? or something that broke your window decorations? [18:34] hello [18:34] no not at all been there before [18:34] no playing with compiz again [18:34] 13:34 < exxxit> no not at all been there before [18:34] so, they have *never* been there? [18:34] regardless.. this is what i would do [18:35] i would test with the guest account, and/or another user account.. if all is well there, i know the system is *not* broken, and i go to resetting my users configs for the desktop [18:35] ok i'll try looging in as another user [18:35] I'll be back in a sec [18:36] try as the guest user, and see if all is well, and if so, consider just simply resetting your configs.. [18:36] http://askubuntu.com/questions/224006/resetting-xfce-panels-to-default-settings for example, is how to reset the panel [18:36] for me, i would simly move or rename ~/.config/xfce4 [18:37] i would then, relog and make sure that all is well, and go from there with a default setup [18:37] hey I'm back [18:38] all is well when i log in as another user [18:38] sure. so, you can move on to the other text i have posted above that explians what i would do to reset the "broken" configs [18:39] exxxit: you know that its *not* an issue (very likely, at least) with the main system.. no need to "sudo" do *anything*, or remove, reinstall, break, add, any system packages or configs [18:39] so in the link you sent me there is an option to do it all in one line on the cli [18:40] exxxit: sure [18:40] I think I can use that [18:40] exxxit: do what you like [18:40] exxxit: what *is* suggest is, *not* rm'ing anything [18:40] no need to [18:40] just simply move, or rename it [18:40] so I should just rename the folder xfce4? [18:40] you can do that from a live CD, if you have no UI.. or the terminal.. literally any way you feel comfortable to reset the configs [18:41] exxxit: you shoud read about, and understand what renaming that directory does [18:41] exxxit: there is no "should".. just your broken config, and ways to resolve the issue [18:41] I'm a bit stuck my browser does not show properly [18:41] exxxit: one easy way to reset that, and be able to revert is, just simply move or rename that config for xfce [18:42] exxxit: as i said, you can do this from a live cd, or the terminal, or tty [18:42] !tty [18:42] To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [18:42] so I'll just rename it log out and them back in? [18:42] exxxit: if thats the way you want to proceed, sure [18:43] exxxit: that will make the system create a new fresh config for *all* of the xfce elements that are broken for you [18:43] exxxit: and, you will still have the current settings in the renamed directory [18:43] ok and them I can calmly set it up again [18:43] okok I think I got it [18:43] I'll give it a try [18:43] exxxit: i cant speak for your demeanor, during the process, but, yes.. [18:43] do I have to do it on the TTY? [18:44] you can either, find that, actually, this *doesnt* "Fix" anything, and you can easilly revert to exactly what you have now [18:44] or, you will find it does fix the issue, andyou can put parts of the config back, or do what you like [18:44] ok [18:45] if you do *exaxctly* the same, you can likely break it in the same way you did last time, so be aware [18:45] yes i understand [18:45] just one more question i have two folders one named xfce4 and xfce4-session [18:45] anything to do with that? [19:05] still not getting the x in the windows but the desktop seems to have reverted to the original state [19:05] half of ot [19:05] half of it [19:06] does that all in one line command take a long time to execute? [19:07] i get a : respawning too fast, stopped message [19:09] 14:05 [freenode] -exxxit(~beka@109.49.148.222)- hi again the problme seems to be half fixed or so [19:09] exxxit: what did you rename? [19:09] i renamed xfce4 [19:09] exxxit: you mean, ~/.config/fxce4 ? [19:10] yes [19:10] exxxit: the path is important.. [19:10] yes i deleted xfce4 [19:10] not fxce4 [19:11] in the ~/.config folder [19:11] I tried renaming it [19:11] now I have just deleted it [19:11] deleted? or renamed? becuase, i personally specifically suggested *not* deleting it [19:11] already done that ... :/ deleted [19:12] I deleted logged out and back in again [19:12] sure.. so, you should get a default one.. [19:12] yes I should [19:12] and now, with no way to revert [19:12] since, you did something on your own, which is fine.. im just making you aware that you cant revert now.. as i was leaving you a way to do so [19:12] but the desktop now seems like a mix of what I had and a freash install [19:13] and the coommand does not exit [19:13] exxxit: i may move the *entire* ~/.config and see if that solved the problem [19:13] exxxit: what command? [19:13] the long command on the link [19:14] xfce4-panel --quit ; pkill xfconfd ; rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/panel ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml ; xfce4-panel; [19:14] i'm getting this: init: indicator-sound respawning too fast, stopped [19:14] with no exit [19:14] exxxit: thats *Just* an example [19:15] hum.. [19:15] exxxit: thats specifically for the panel [19:15] exxxit: not your problem at all [19:15] oh ok great [19:15] :p [19:15] exxxit: i suggested the *entire* ~/.config/xfce4 directory [19:15] which included that reset for the panel [19:15] exxxit: i dont suggest that you need to kill and restart the panel [19:16] exxxit: you just need to identify what is broken in your config, and let a new config respawn [19:16] I dont mind gwtting the fresh look again on the desktop [19:16] getting* [19:16] exxxit: one *easy* and quick way to see if this is *even* the issue is, to simly move or rename the *entire* ~/.config [19:16] what should I delete? [19:16] exxxit: *nothing* [19:17] exxxit: i *never* said delete anything.. i actually specifically still suggest that you dont need to delete anything [19:17] so i should call the ~/.config folder something like ~/.config2? for ex? [19:17] exxxit: you can simply move or rename the config directory [19:17] exxxit: you can simpley move it.. out of where it is.. or rename it literally whatever you like [19:18] so I rename or mv the ~/.config directory log out and then back in? [19:19] thats it? [19:21] exxxit: friend.. in order to get a new one to respawn, thats how [19:21] ok [19:21] exxxit: im not suggesting this is a "fix" at all.. its a way to see if your issue is isolated in the ~/.config [19:21] ok I'll try now [19:21] exxxit: its the way i would go about isolating that and testing.. and since i havent deleted anything, i can revert.. so there is no issue [19:46] I was exxxit [19:46] with the issue on xfce4 [19:46] I'm giving up [19:47] This is time consuming and I dont even know how I got here [19:47] mauro: cool.. let a volunteer know if they can assist.. and try #xubuntu if the channel is slow [19:47] its frustrating [19:47] yup.. it can be [19:47] i say, plan having good backups, and ways to revert..