| elfy | unless you are me bluesabre - in which case one package removal does all manner of things :p | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| elfy | I think I've got about 4 or 5 different visual things going on here now :) | 00:04 |
| bluesabre | :) | 00:04 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Purge bash. | 00:04 |
| bluesabre | greybird's checkboxes and progress bars get funny when switching to other themes | 00:04 |
| elfy | purge bash !!! | 00:04 |
| elfy | Unit193: I need more than that | 00:04 |
| bluesabre | as I have found | 00:04 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: yeah, that happens in some apps like firefox | 00:05 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: its happening even in normal gtk | 00:05 |
| ochosi | strange | 00:05 |
| ochosi | gtk2 or gtk3? | 00:05 |
| elfy | clementine refuses to change twice - quit and start again | 00:05 |
| ochosi | elfy: well that one is qt | 00:05 |
| elfy | but it does work like a music player ... | 00:06 |
| elfy | ochosi: yea :) | 00:06 |
| bluesabre | a bit of both.. noticed the other day in thunar file properties and session logout, and just now in file-roller | 00:06 |
| ochosi | hm, not sure, but i'm not guessing that's something we wanna investigate for real... | 00:07 |
| elfy | I've installed a couple of things of late which must bring in nautilus, any file *job* calls that and then it looks really odd | 00:08 |
| elfy | jars a bit | 00:08 |
| bluesabre | yeah, nautilus likes to take over | 00:08 |
| elfy | dropbox does it | 00:08 |
| elfy | oh - disks does it | 00:09 |
| elfy | but then it would I guess being gnome-disk-utility | 00:09 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: At least it doesn't clash with xfdesktop though. | 00:09 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: it no longer draws on top? woot | 00:10 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: btw, since that was mentioned earlier, i might inhibit the symbolic icons for the open-file dialog sidebar | 00:10 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: or at least try that, to make it look more consistent with thunar again | 00:10 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: all right, let me know if anything needs to change in any of my apps to avoid color | 00:11 |
| ochosi | nah, i think catfish can stay as it is | 00:11 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/xfdesktop4/vivid/view/head:/debian/patches/xubuntu_improve-nautilus-interactions.patch ? | 00:11 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: oh right | 00:12 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Still here? You were okay with xscreensaver ending up getting pulled in with core, but light-locker in desktop. You still feel this way? | 00:15 |
| ochosi | Unit193: well sorta. do the two packages mutually exclude each other? | 00:16 |
| ochosi | what i wouldn't want is ppl ending up with both, that could cause hickups | 00:16 |
| ochosi | was there a specific/good reason for this? | 00:16 |
| Unit193 | You can install both. If you install the core though, you're more likely to have a clue in general and not likely to "upgrade" to desktop. | 00:17 |
| ochosi | yeah, but what would be the reason to include two different lockers? | 00:17 |
| Unit193 | Just wasn't added, mainly. core doesn't depend on any locker. | 00:18 |
| ochosi | so xscreensaver implicitely gets pulled into core? | 00:18 |
| Unit193 | Yep. | 00:19 |
| ochosi | hmm | 00:20 |
| ochosi | i'm not a huge fan, let's put it this way | 00:20 |
| ochosi | and i don't see a good reason to (potentially) include two different lockers | 00:20 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Just flip * (light-locker) to the 'other' section in core, problem solved. | 00:21 |
| ochosi | yup, +1 on that | 00:22 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: ^ ? | 00:22 |
| ochosi | brb | 00:22 |
| bluesabre | probably be a worthwhile change | 00:23 |
| * Unit193 calls 'not it' on this one. | 00:23 | |
| elfy | :) | 00:23 |
| bluesabre | alrighty | 00:27 |
| Unit193 | Later on I'll actually sort the whole seed... | 00:28 |
| elfy | Unit193: so during the meeting today there's "ACTION: Unit193 to tie up with elfy for xubuntu-core upgrade testing needs " which was about the core upgrade issue | 00:29 |
| elfy | nicely got 2 pings in there | 00:29 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: lol, tempted to upload this | 00:29 |
| bluesabre | "d/p/lid-closed.patch: Take patch from upstream branch that does something." | 00:29 |
| elfy | heh | 00:29 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Well you told me to package it, but I hadn't paid enough attention as to what it did. :P | 00:30 |
| bluesabre | (same here) | 00:30 |
| bluesabre | I'll reword it a bit | 00:30 |
| Unit193 | Oh, you're actually uploading that? I thought it was for a PPA. ;P | 00:31 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Danke. | 00:31 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Right, well only way to test right now would be for me to throw up a mirror of their upgrade stuff. :P | 00:31 |
| Unit193 | Do I need to do that? | 00:31 |
| elfy | Unit193: well | 00:33 |
| elfy | the way I see it currently - is there any rush for it? | 00:34 |
| Unit193 | Hope not. | 00:34 |
| Unit193 | Heck, don't think it's on a blueprint so it must not be that important. | 00:34 |
| elfy | if not would we not be better to work out exactly what scenarios we need to test first? | 00:34 |
| elfy | Unit193: yea - it's post -blueprint :) | 00:34 |
| elfy | I just wonder if we get it on something now (BP) as an exercise in working out what needs to be done | 00:37 |
| elfy | then use next cycle to test it properly - so it's mostly done for LTS | 00:37 |
| elfy | Unit193: ^^ does that make sense? not sure what time frame we've got here ofc | 00:43 |
| elfy | QA <- last to know ... | 00:43 |
| elfy | :D | 00:43 |
| ochosi | folks, with the latest release of libxfce4ui we should check whether shortcuts with and without the Super key still work | 01:19 |
| ochosi | regression-testing against this bug: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10373 | 01:19 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10373 in General "libxfce4ui-4.11: 3bb8c7d breaks shortcuts with <Super> modifier" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 01:20 |
| ochosi | there used to be a launchpad report for that too, can't seem to find it now | 01:20 |
| elfy | given that I make an inordinate amount of use of Super I'll look forward to seeing that land in ppa :) | 01:20 |
| ochosi | heh | 01:20 |
| ochosi | good good | 01:20 |
| ochosi | just wanted to let you know in advance | 01:20 |
| bluesabre | should land in vivid soon | 01:21 |
| elfy | no media kbd here ochosi | 01:21 |
| ochosi | so if you notice a problem between "super + shift + a" and "super + a" you'll know where to look | 01:21 |
| ochosi | (as an example ^ ) | 01:21 |
| elfy | so Super+various Fx buttons control music here | 01:21 |
| ochosi | k | 01:21 |
| ochosi | try super plus a modifier like shift | 01:22 |
| ochosi | that is reportedly a good way to reproduce the bug | 01:22 |
| elfy | yep | 01:22 |
| elfy | once I see it land I'll change them all | 01:22 |
| knome | ochosi, elfy: re website: http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/.webdev/x-desk-lap.png | 01:22 |
| elfy | if I see it I will tell you :D | 01:22 |
| knome | "Desktop and Laptops alike..." | 01:22 |
| knome | +s | 01:22 |
| ochosi | a bit sketchy | 01:22 |
| elfy | yay | 01:22 |
| ochosi | but why not | 01:23 |
| knome | ochosi, i thought you ack'd that direction :P | 01:23 |
| ochosi | yeah yeah :) | 01:23 |
| elfy | Roobarb and Custard | 01:23 |
| elfy | love it :) | 01:23 |
| ochosi | heh | 01:23 |
| knome | that being public, i'm taking in all suggestions of artwork that we could use on the website | 01:23 |
| knome | eg. if you have an idea of a drawing we could have on the tour page, tell me | 01:24 |
| knome | bluesabre, Unit193: ping since you're here anyway ^ | 01:24 |
| knome | sidi isn't allowed to comment. | 01:24 |
| elfy | I /ignore anyway :p | 01:24 |
| * sidi comments. | 01:26 | |
| elfy | I didn't see that | 01:26 |
| elfy | :p | 01:26 |
| ochosi | knome: the more i look at it the more i like it | 01:27 |
| knome | mhm, i was considering adding some kind of pencil-drawing filter to it | 01:27 |
| knome | to make it even a bit rougher... | 01:28 |
| elfy | I like that my pen slipped sideways as I drew art :) | 01:28 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, that could work | 01:28 |
| knome | we can definitely straighten up some of the lines if that makes this feel clumsy | 01:28 |
| knome | thing is, it would need to be an inkscape filter... | 01:29 |
| elfy | oh words ... | 01:31 |
| ochosi | knome: nah, not sure straightening would be a good idea | 01:33 |
| ochosi | but feel free to give it a shot if you disagree | 01:33 |
| knome | well not completely | 01:33 |
| ochosi | wow, didrocks and pitti contributed to systemd | 01:33 |
| Unit193 | Of course pitti did. | 01:34 |
| bluesabre | It's a pitty ochosi didn't expect that | 01:35 |
| bluesabre | It's a pitti ochosi didn't expect that | 01:35 |
| bluesabre | joke's not funny once I screw it up :'( | 01:35 |
| ochosi | oh, pun times | 01:35 |
| knome | haha | 01:38 |
| knome | ochosi, you mean phun times? | 01:39 |
| ochosi | :] | 01:39 |
| ochosi | Unit193: quick comment, i can't technically approve/reject that MR, i can only approve/reject the intention: https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/ubuntu-release-upgrader/core-upgrades/+merge/250224 | 02:02 |
| ochosi | but i presume you're primarily looking for the latter anyway | 02:02 |
| ochosi | anyway, i can also ack that tomorrow | 02:04 |
| ochosi | night all | 02:04 |
| knome | nighty ochosi | 02:04 |
| knome | and with that, i'm out too | 02:05 |
| knome | nighty everybody | 02:05 |
| Unit193 | G'night. | 02:05 |
| * bluesabre works on image testing until bed time | 02:46 | |
| elfy | what a lovely chap | 02:48 |
| elfy | as long as you noticed my ping about 32bit :) | 02:49 |
| bluesabre | yes, that's what I'm doing | 02:49 |
| elfy | what a lovely chap | 02:49 |
| elfy | :) | 02:49 |
| elfy | any smoketests on those is one less I'll do tomorrow ;) | 02:49 |
| bluesabre | jjfrv8 also seems to have kick some 32bit butt today too | 02:50 |
| bluesabre | +ed | 02:50 |
| elfy | really | 02:50 |
| elfy | > | 02:50 |
| elfy | usually slickymaster hammers into 32 bit and jjfrv8 64bit | 02:50 |
| * elfy has numbers ;) | 02:51 | |
| bluesabre | heh | 02:51 |
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| Akusari | good morning! I hope everything runs fine with the releasing | 09:23 |
| ochosi | morning everyone | 09:23 |
| ochosi | Unit193: you haven't really replied to my MR question yesterday | 09:38 |
| knome | ochosi, almost the last chance... is there something in the staging site that irks you before i start the process to push it to production? | 10:07 |
| knome | ochosi, the last thing i'm going to look at now is the header background, which has been WIP/PoC for now | 10:08 |
| knome | and i'll do other things before that, so you have approx. a few hours to reply :) | 10:08 |
| ochosi | approx a few? :D | 10:11 |
| ochosi | k, i'll take a look in a bit | 10:11 |
| ochosi | but since i monitored it's progress continuously (more or less), i think i'll just be fine with it | 10:11 |
| knome | well, i have no idea how long it'll take to do those $other_things, nor how long i'll poke around with the header img | 10:12 |
| knome | but it's 1+ h for sure until i do the IS ticket | 10:12 |
| ochosi | k k | 10:12 |
| knome | i have small updates planned for a 2.0 version for this theme, so it's also possible to postpone other things for that | 10:13 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, you too, last chance to whine about the staging site, will start the process later today | 10:13 |
| * slickymasterWork is no whiner :P | 10:14 | |
| knome | :P | 10:14 |
| slickymasterWork | and won't start now | 10:14 |
| knome | sorry, winer :P | 10:14 |
| slickymasterWork | I already told you knome that I liked it | 10:14 |
| knome | i know | 10:14 |
| slickymasterWork | so no whining from this side | 10:15 |
| knome | but it's always different when i threat clients with "now i'm going to push it to production" | 10:15 |
| knome | they always find things to nag about then | 10:15 |
| knome | that's why i've started doing fake calls for pushing :P | 10:15 |
| slickymasterWork | you have my thumbs up | 10:15 |
| slickymasterWork | not sure if you noted knome, but I pushed a small change to the opening paragraph of the index yesterday | 10:16 |
| elfy | mmm - so I've got like about 25 things to whine about that | 10:17 |
| knome | elfy, go ahead ;)) | 10:17 |
| slickymasterWork | hey elfy | 10:17 |
| elfy | :) | 10:17 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, nope, but good good :P | 10:17 |
| knome | elfy, even if you had... this would be a good time to tell them | 10:17 |
| knome | elfy, i changed the menu arrows a bit today | 10:17 |
| elfy | knome: I can tell | 10:18 |
| knome | not much and the logic/feature is still the same | 10:18 |
| knome | except it also has one more logic error fixed :D | 10:18 |
| knome | but i'm off for some real work now | 10:19 |
| elfy | :) | 10:20 |
| knome | will read the rants when i'm back | 10:20 |
| knome | --> | 10:20 |
| elfy | ochosi bluesabre - ok then - all trusty images tested, I'm good to mark ready if you 2 are | 10:37 |
| elfy | next thing ... release notes for it | 10:37 |
| slickymasterWork | hey elfy, I'm still testing :P | 10:38 |
| elfy | :) | 10:38 |
| flexiondotorg | ochosi, Are you available? | 10:53 |
| ochosi | @work, so only so-so | 10:53 |
| meetingology | ochosi: Error: "work," is not a valid command. | 10:53 |
| ochosi | good point, meetingology :) | 10:54 |
| flexiondotorg | ochosi, I see you add Ubiquity panel compatibility to greybird. | 10:54 |
| ochosi | oh right, that | 10:54 |
| ochosi | well that's only a very trivial patch to show a custom background on ubiquity's panel | 10:55 |
| flexiondotorg | Which required a new image, right? Anything else? | 10:55 |
| ochosi | that is if you use/show that panel | 10:55 |
| ochosi | (although i think you should, mostly xfwm4/xfce was exempt of showing it) | 10:55 |
| flexiondotorg | ochosi, So I do use the ubiquity-dm and it's panel. | 10:55 |
| ochosi | it's a new image-bg and you also need to patch ubiquity | 10:55 |
| ochosi | lemme dig up my patch (it's really trivial) | 10:55 |
| flexiondotorg | By default, the ubiquity panel is themed like Ambiance. | 10:55 |
| ochosi | there you go: https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/ubiquity/xubuntu-panel-bg/+merge/247001 | 10:56 |
| ochosi | yes, indeed | 10:56 |
| flexiondotorg | ochosi, Thanks very much. | 10:56 |
| ochosi | n | 10:57 |
| ochosi | np | 10:57 |
| ochosi | elfy: almost there, i'll do a quick smoketest for 14.04.2 myself in a few | 10:57 |
| elfy | \o/ | 10:58 |
| ochosi | phew, zsync finally finished | 11:19 |
| ochosi | brb | 11:19 |
| bluesabre | elfy: a-ok from me | 11:21 |
| * ochosi already boots the vm | 11:25 | |
| ochosi | can't take much longer i guess | 11:25 |
| ochosi | elfy: the black bg on the try/install ubiquity screen is still expected in 14.04.2? | 11:26 |
| elfy | afaik - certainly not seen that any different since last year | 11:28 |
| ochosi | guess we could've backported the fix from vivid, then again... | 11:28 |
| ochosi | it's not really that crucial | 11:28 |
| elfy | yep | 11:28 |
| ochosi | ok, live-session looks good. | 11:29 |
| elfy | :) | 11:29 |
| ochosi | certainly a good start :) | 11:29 |
| elfy | :D | 11:30 |
| elfy | better than 2 weeks ago for sure :p | 11:30 |
| ochosi | knome: even a year later, i still like the trusty wp, nice work on that one | 11:30 |
| elfy | bluesabre: by any chance got a list of fixes that made it back to trusty since .1 for the release notes? | 11:32 |
| bluesabre | not a good one, several of our updates got stopped because they introduced a flurry of new bugs | 11:34 |
| ochosi | "14.04.2 Release notes: This release contains *moar fixes*." | 11:35 |
| bluesabre | looks like this one is in -updates | 11:37 |
| bluesabre | xfdesktop4 (4.11.8-0ubuntu0.1) | 11:37 |
| bluesabre | * New upstream development and bugfix release (LP: #1365965) | 11:38 |
| bluesabre | * debian/patches/xubuntu_set-accountsservice-user-bg.patch: update | 11:38 |
| bluesabre | patch to only update on first workspace filename change | 11:38 |
| bluesabre | -- Sean Davis <smd.seandavis@gmail.com> Sat, 27 Sep 2014 16:53:04 -0400 | 11:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1365965 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu Trusty) "[MRE] Please update xfdesktop4 to 4.11.8 in Trusty" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365965 | 11:38 |
| bluesabre | xubuntu-default-settings (14.04.6) trusty; urgency=medium | 11:38 |
| bluesabre | [ Bruno Nova ] | 11:38 |
| bluesabre | * etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu | 11:38 |
| bluesabre | - Add Settings submenu to main menu to make launchers in the Settings | 11:38 |
| bluesabre | category appear in Whisker menu (LP: #1310264) | 11:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1310264 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Trusty) "Can't search/find items in the Settings Manager" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1310264 | 11:39 |
| bluesabre | -- Sebastien Bacher <seb128@ubuntu.com> Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:19:10 +0100 | 11:39 |
| elfy | I've got draft .2 started on x.org - running off for a bit to do some things before the day runs away | 11:40 |
| elfy | bluesabre: thanks for ^^ | 11:40 |
| bluesabre | going through http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/allpackages to see if there is anything else since .1 | 11:41 |
| ochosi | elfy: ok, smoketest completed, looks fine to me! | 11:41 |
| bluesabre | xfce4-weather-plugin (0.8.3-1ubuntu0.1) trusty; urgency=medium | 11:44 |
| bluesabre | * Add patches from upstream git to use locationforcast-1.2 (LP: #1377612) | 11:44 |
| bluesabre | -- Sean Davis <smd.seandavis@gmail.com> Sat, 11 Oct 2014 16:12:57 -0400 | 11:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1377612 in xfce4-weather-plugin (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU] Plugin needs updated for locationforecast-1.2" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1377612 | 11:44 |
| bluesabre | the usual firefox, thunderbird updates | 11:45 |
| elfy | ochosi: ta - I assume that's an ack to mark ready :) | 11:45 |
| ochosi | yup | 11:45 |
| bluesabre | xchat (did we ship that for trusty?), pidgin both have had security updates (POODLE, etc) | 11:46 |
| bluesabre | that seems to be it | 11:46 |
| elfy | ok thanks :) | 11:46 |
| ochosi | brb | 11:46 |
| elfy | biab | 11:46 |
| bluesabre | byob | 11:47 |
| knome | ochosi, mhm, it's better than utopic... | 12:02 |
| knome | now for some stretching and then preparing the website push... | 12:07 |
| knome | FINALLY | 12:09 |
| ochosi | indeed | 12:09 |
| bluesabre | :D | 12:10 |
| bluesabre | :D :D | 12:10 |
| bluesabre | :D :D :D | 12:10 |
| knome | ochosi, one question | 12:11 |
| knome | ochosi, in the screenshots page, do you prefer the current order, or would you like to see the page content before the screenshots? | 12:11 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: how long does it take for germinate to recognize a new package? | 12:52 |
| bluesabre | ? Unknown desktop package: lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings | 12:52 |
| bluesabre | gotta run, bbl | 12:53 |
| ochosi | ttyl | 12:53 |
| knome | ochosi, did you see my question? | 12:57 |
| ochosi | knome: sorry, was distracted with other stuff | 12:59 |
| ochosi | do you have some links for me? (current vs proposed) | 12:59 |
| knome | no, i only have the current style | 13:00 |
| knome | and it's on the staging site :P | 13:00 |
| knome | which i apparently just broke | 13:00 |
| ochosi | just wanted to say, i don't see anything there :D | 13:00 |
| elfy | best version ever | 13:01 |
| knome | yes | 13:04 |
| elfy | 94 tests reported for trusty .2 :) | 13:10 |
| knome | nice | 13:12 |
| ochosi | awesome | 13:14 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Has to get out of -proposed. | 15:31 |
| slickymasterWork | elfy, can you try to reproduce and confirm bug 1423602 | 15:53 |
| ubottu | bug 1423602 in mousepad (Ubuntu) "mousepad crashed with signal 5 in main()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423602 | 15:54 |
| ochosi | apart from theming issues, this works surprisingly well... http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/use-global-menu-in-xubuntu-or-linux.html | 15:55 |
| ochosi | (i know sean already linked it in -ot) | 15:55 |
| knome | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-website/xubuntu-website/theme/revision/57 | 15:56 |
| elfy | slickymasterWork: is pkexec even in trusty? | 16:03 |
| elfy | was it not brought in during utopic? | 16:03 |
| slickymasterWork | yes, it was | 16:03 |
| slickymasterWork | damn | 16:03 |
| slickymasterWork | I have way to many virtual boxes | 16:04 |
| elfy | :D | 16:04 |
| knome | elfy, did you see the latest header bg? | 16:04 |
| elfy | try it here I've got a bunch of those open and I'm trying to work kvm out too | 16:04 |
| * slickymasterWork as to clean up is virtual environment | 16:04 | |
| knome | elfy, ^ it's pushed now so no complaints, but for the laughs :P | 16:04 |
| elfy | knome: not sure what I should be seeing here :) | 16:05 |
| knome | elfy, make sure you double refresh | 16:05 |
| knome | elfy, once you're done, you should see blueish blues | 16:06 |
| knome | elfy, instead of cyanish blues | 16:06 |
| elfy | in staging? | 16:06 |
| knome | elfy, and some lines instead of blurred spots | 16:06 |
| knome | yapp | 16:06 |
| Unit193 | So 4 new po files, lost fr and picked up de. | 16:06 |
| Akusari | hello! I hope the release day was or is still successful :-) | 16:06 |
| elfy | knome: I see a slightly darker triangle at right top | 16:07 |
| knome | elfy, yes, that must be it ;) | 16:07 |
| elfy | :) | 16:07 |
| elfy | Akusari: on going ... | 16:07 |
| knome | are you sure it's a triangular triangle? | 16:08 |
| knome | ... | 16:08 |
| elfy | well it's got three angles ... | 16:08 |
| knome | what if the rest are hiding? | 16:08 |
| elfy | then they're doing an awesome job :D | 16:08 |
| knome | they actually are ;) | 16:08 |
| knome | yep | 16:09 |
| Unit193 | Hm. We'll actually need to poke the wallpaper before release because of UIF. | 16:18 |
| knome | yes.. how so? :) | 16:18 |
| elfy | right - going to try and crack out the basic release note so that someone else can make it pretty and friendly | 16:22 |
| slickymasterWork | knome, the finnish strings that presently are having issues with the whitespaces within tags -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10310226 | 16:31 |
| knome | because <placeholder-1/> ? | 16:32 |
| elfy | ochosi knome : draft release notes at x.org now should be ok - obviously not got download links yet | 16:33 |
| ochosi | elfy: awesome! thanks a lot for taking care of that | 16:33 |
| slickymasterWork | can't say exactly why knome. There's also issues with ? </guilabel> | 16:34 |
| slickymasterWork | ? </guimenuitem> | 16:34 |
| knome | why would there be? | 16:35 |
| elfy | ochosi: welcome ofc | 16:35 |
| knome | that's completely normal | 16:35 |
| slickymasterWork | duno | 16:35 |
| knome | well get your act togerther before you tell me my strings are broken ;) | 16:35 |
| qwebirc645608 | knome, why do we have those extra spaces in between tags in the first place? | 16:43 |
| knome | which tags? | 16:44 |
| qwebirc645608 | is it something forced by DocBook markup? | 16:44 |
| knome | the space between the placeholders and the text after that is intentional | 16:44 |
| qwebirc645608 | this for example -> <filename><placeholder-1/> /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/</filename> | 16:44 |
| qwebirc645608 | can you explaine me the reason? | 16:44 |
| knome | it makes the space between the icon (placeholder) and the text part sane | 16:44 |
| qwebirc645608 | -e | 16:44 |
| knome | we could do that even without that space in the markup, but now that it is like it is... | 16:45 |
| knome | one whitespace is meaningful | 16:45 |
| qwebirc645608 | hmmm, ok | 16:45 |
| knome | as long as it's outside tags | 16:45 |
| slickymasterWork | es.po presently has 7 strings with invalid markup -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10310596/ | 16:59 |
| slickymasterWork | fr.po presently has 1 string with invalid markup -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10310613/ | 17:00 |
| slickymasterWork | knome: ^^ | 17:00 |
| slickymasterWork | I think of downloading those two correct the markup and upload them back | 17:00 |
| slickymasterWork | any argues with that? | 17:01 |
| slickymasterWork | s/I/I'm | 17:01 |
| elfy | ochosi: we going to do wiki release notes? there should be the common bugs list available for that | 17:15 |
| * ochosi shrugs | 17:16 | |
| ochosi | why not | 17:16 |
| elfy | I'll see if there's a .1 to base off | 17:17 |
| ochosi | cool cool | 17:18 |
| Unit193 | Right, so merge "needs information"... | 17:36 |
| Unit193 | I'm having an elfy moment. | 17:36 |
| ochosi | you could discuss it with bdmurray directly on irc as well | 17:39 |
| * ochosi wasn't aware that "having an elfy moment" was a thing | 17:40 | |
| elfy | lol | 17:40 |
| elfy | ochosi: re wiki release note - seems we just linked to the main 14.04 one | 17:41 |
| Unit193 | It's not, I'm just bad. | 17:43 |
| elfy | mmm | 17:44 |
| elfy | so an elfy moment is being bad :( | 17:44 |
| ochosi | lol | 17:50 |
| ochosi | poor elfy | 17:50 |
| * ochosi pats elfy on the head | 17:50 | |
| ochosi | elfy: i'm fine with doing that again... | 17:51 |
| ochosi | (and now that you mention it i remember) | 17:51 |
| elfy | though ... i'm going to try running something for infinity which drags common bugs and fixes - so it may be worth doing a .2 page | 17:52 |
| elfy | .1 was really the first release | 17:52 |
| knome | everybody interested, RT ticket 26131 for the website process | 17:53 |
| knome | ochosi, pleia2: you're CC'd on the website push ticket | 17:53 |
| ochosi | elfy: ok, that's totally fine as well | 17:54 |
| elfy | knome: thanks - I'll add it to my list of 100 rt tickets :p | 17:54 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: You may have to poke someone about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings to get it to migrate so you can update -meta before the end of the day. | 20:33 |
| andrzejr | Is there any way to push unity guys to release their stuff? I wanted to use a "libido" library but the latest released version is 12.10: https://launchpad.net/ido/12.10/12.10.2 | 21:01 |
| andrzejr | there were quite a few unreleased versions since | 21:01 |
| knome | andrzejr, if there is, it's not whining in this channel ;) | 21:01 |
| andrzejr | Is this intentional? I mean, are they trying to make this framework Ubuntu only? | 21:02 |
| knome | no idea, you really should talk with them | 21:02 |
| andrzejr | It is not whining - I'm seriously considering using this lib but I need to know what is their development plan | 21:03 |
| Unit193 | Honestly, it does kind of seem like they only want that stuff in house. :P | 21:05 |
| knome | you won't find unity developers here though, so what's the agenda? | 21:05 |
| elfy | got some r/l for a while - draft notes on x.org and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr.2/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu drafted | 21:05 |
| Unit193 | andrzejr: They all hang out in #ubuntu-desktop. | 21:05 |
| andrzejr | thanks Unit193 | 21:06 |
| Unit193 | andrzejr: Good luck, you're going to need it. | 21:06 |
| elfy | and there's not an Ubuntu general known issue page, but there is a change summary for .2 if we want to <<include>> that | 21:09 |
| elfy | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.2 | 21:09 |
| jjfrv8 | elfy, looks like both 32 and 64-bit versions of today's vivid daily have the missing try/install problem. | 21:14 |
| jjfrv8 | in vbox, that is | 21:14 |
| elfy | ok thanks, not had time to even think about those today :) | 21:15 |
| elfy | going to set up kvm - seems that we'd get more traction if can reproduce in there | 21:16 |
| elfy | tomorrow's task ;) | 21:16 |
| Unit193 | qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -boot d -m 2048 -cdrom 'openbox-desktop-14.04-amd64.iso' -localtime | 21:20 |
| elfy | Unit193: I managed to get it half set up - then it kept whining about disk space - I want it to use space on other drives | 21:21 |
| elfy | be tomorrow - got r/l walking up the road now :) | 21:21 |
| slickymaster | knome, Unit193 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/02/19/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t16:59 | 21:37 |
| slickymaster | just so you know | 21:37 |
| knome | no complaints | 21:38 |
| slickymaster | ack knome | 21:38 |
| Unit193 | Okay.. | 21:40 |
| ochosi | andrzejr: i think tedg and larsu (re: libido and libindicator) are in a european timezone, but if you want i can ping them tomorrow about this | 21:47 |
| andrzejr | ochosi, thanks, that would be helpful. I've sent an email to charles and asked the question on #ubuntu-desktop. Since the license of ido is compatible (lgpl 2) it may be possible to simply distribute a couple of files with the plugin. | 21:50 |
| ochosi | sure, no problem! | 21:51 |
| ochosi | andrzejr: btw, if you and eric (and maybe even matias) really plan to work on the pulseaudio plugin, i can sit down and draw some serious mockups | 21:52 |
| andrzejr | is eric interested? I haven't heard from him about it. | 21:53 |
| Unit193 | Check users ml. | 21:53 |
| ochosi | yeah, he and matias both replied there | 21:54 |
| ochosi | and in fact it's true that the xfpm plugin uses a similar layout | 21:54 |
| ochosi | so it shouldn't be too hard to port that over | 21:54 |
| ochosi | then again, i still think it'd be ideal to start doing that in gtk3 | 21:55 |
| ochosi | so that the xfpm plugin can benefit too | 21:55 |
| andrzejr | yup, xfpm menu is a good start. | 21:57 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, having a little trouble getting things to look right in latest vivid version: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/xfwm.php | 22:04 |
| jjfrv8 | I've got all these settings: http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds-xfdesktop | 22:04 |
| jjfrv8 | has something changed with the recent packages? | 22:04 |
| ochosi | yeah, that looks ok | 22:04 |
| slickymaster | yeah, but jjfrv8 is right, that's completely different from what we always use | 22:06 |
| ochosi | the window border theme has | 22:06 |
| ochosi | i don't think other things should have | 22:08 |
| jjfrv8 | so you're saying go with it like shown? | 22:09 |
| ochosi | i'd say so, but lemme quickly check in #xfce-dev | 22:09 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: ok, suggestion: we start out without the screenshots and i'll come up with a strategy tomorrow | 22:12 |
| jjfrv8 | wfm | 22:12 |
| ochosi | it's possible we'll go for something completely different | 22:12 |
| ochosi | e.g. adwaita or greybird | 22:12 |
| ochosi | nobody really uses the xfce themes anyway... | 22:13 |
| ochosi | so the "reference factor" seems low | 22:13 |
| jjfrv8 | ok | 22:13 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Weren't you going to commit something to the seed before EOD today? | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: just got home | 22:41 |
| Unit193 | Good for youuuuu./ | 22:41 |
| Unit193 | Did you have a nice drive? :D | 22:41 |
| bluesabre | nice carpool | 22:43 |
| bluesabre | freaking cold though | 22:43 |
| Unit193 | Temp: 2 F (-17 C) ~ Partly Cloudy ~ Windchill: -12 F (-24 C) ~ Humidity: 63% ~ Alert: Wind Chill Advisory, Wind Chill Warning | 22:43 |
| Unit193 | Yeeeeep. | 22:43 |
| Unit193 | Hah, infinity's comments on -release. :D | 22:46 |
| knome | wat? | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | <infinity> bluesabre: I'm mildly entertained that the only translation that contains is Russian. :) | 22:47 |
| knome | what then? | 22:48 |
| knome | cia-handbook? | 22:48 |
| bluesabre | lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings | 22:48 |
| knome | :) | 22:48 |
| bluesabre | which is an alternate to cia-handbook | 22:48 |
| bluesabre | provide the same binaries | 22:48 |
| ochosi | haha | 22:49 |
| knome | point me to the translation interfaceeeh | 22:49 |
| knome | i'll tap it in today, so infinity can be more entertained | 22:49 |
| bluesabre | https://translations.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings | 22:51 |
| knome | tat-tara | 22:51 |
| ochosi | knome: you mean infinity lulz? | 22:51 |
| knome | ochosi, DA | 22:51 |
| bluesabre | saw the awesome news that translations should no longer timeout all the time | 22:51 |
| ochosi | hah, for realz? | 22:52 |
| bluesabre | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2015-February/006773.html | 22:53 |
| elfy | evening bluesabre | 22:56 |
| bluesabre | hey elfy | 22:56 |
| elfy | and the rest too of course :) | 22:57 |
| bluesabre | getting to relax a bit now? | 22:57 |
| elfy | kind of | 22:57 |
| elfy | bluesabre: doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.2 wasn't particularly relaxing given that the script to get info from launchpad did what you'd expect | 22:59 |
| elfy | timeout a lot ... | 22:59 |
| slickymaster | yeah bluesabre, for those translating in LP, with Rosetta, those constant time-outs are/were a real pain in the neck | 23:00 |
| bluesabre | lp = "later please" | 23:01 |
| ochosi | lol | 23:01 |
| elfy | ha ha ha | 23:01 |
| ochosi | nice one | 23:01 |
| ochosi | i'll remember that | 23:01 |
| knome | hmm, i could come up with other acronyms | 23:01 |
| knome | but i'll keep them to myself | 23:01 |
| knome | :P | 23:01 |
| elfy | ok - so now that we've got links has anyone done the release notes? and posted it? | 23:01 |
| knome | no | 23:01 |
| * knome hides | 23:01 | |
| elfy | can someone check over http://xubuntu.org/?p=2951&preview=true then please :) | 23:04 |
| elfy | or http://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=2951&action=edit | 23:05 |
| * knome checks and at the same time, hopes the new theme would be up already | 23:05 | |
| knome | looks good to me | 23:05 |
| * knome remembers the download links should be updated | 23:06 | |
| knome | elfy, tell me when you've posted and i'll hit the update button on the download page | 23:07 |
| bluesabre | looks good to me as well | 23:09 |
| elfy | bluesabre: has lock - can post it :) | 23:10 |
| bluesabre | crud | 23:10 |
| ochosi | looks good to me too | 23:10 |
| * bluesabre lets go of lock | 23:10 | |
| ochosi | even trustier tahr | 23:10 |
| elfy | bluesabre: GO !!! | 23:11 |
| knome | thrustier :P | 23:11 |
| elfy | then tell knome :) | 23:11 |
| * bluesabre cannot publish | 23:11 | |
| bluesabre | only submit for review | 23:11 |
| knome | bwaha | 23:11 |
| elfy | published then | 23:11 |
| knome | updated | 23:11 |
| elfy | knome: I published it :p | 23:11 |
| knome | too late | 23:11 |
| knome | :( | 23:11 |
| elfy | bah | 23:11 |
| elfy | blame slickymaster | 23:12 |
| bluesabre | #undo | 23:12 |
| slickymaster | wtf elfy !?! | 23:12 |
| elfy | hi slickymaster :D | 23:12 |
| knome | slickymaster, tut tut, watch the language | 23:12 |
| slickymaster | it's in your mind only knome :P | 23:12 |
| slickymaster | ñot in mine's | 23:12 |
| slickymaster | WhatTheFunk | 23:12 |
| knome | slickymaster, señor coconut is steady now. | 23:13 |
| slickymaster | lol | 23:13 |
| elfy | oh buggar | 23:13 |
| * bluesabre keeps hitting update until "? Unknown desktop package: lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings" goes away | 23:13 | |
| knome | :D | 23:13 |
| elfy | fiddled about with some wiki and x.org info so it's current | 23:17 |
| knome | for all you good people who worked on 14.04.2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kJJXqihboE | 23:17 |
| bluesabre | better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF5C04CB-VQ | 23:18 |
| knome | bluesabre, you are trolling me :( | 23:18 |
| slickymaster | lmao bluesabre | 23:18 |
| bluesabre | knome: surely not | 23:19 |
| Unit193 | Eh, I'd look into updating thunar, but so many LP bugs. :3 | 23:33 |
| bluesabre | >.< | 23:34 |
| Unit193 | No really, '40 new', and this seems to be a bugfix release. :/ | 23:35 |
| bluesabre | yeesh | 23:35 |
| elfy | oh noes :( | 23:36 |
| elfy | indicator-sound update :| | 23:36 |
| Unit193 | Oh gee. | 23:36 |
| bluesabre | hiiiiiide | 23:36 |
| elfy | sigh | 23:37 |
| elfy | and it's broken it ... | 23:39 |
| elfy | pavucontrol won't start from there | 23:39 |
| Unit193 | Really? >_< | 23:39 |
| elfy | yep | 23:39 |
| Unit193 | So, might be time to check out xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin afterall... | 23:42 |
| elfy | so how can I mark bug 1423752 as a regression? | 23:42 |
| ubottu | bug 1423752 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Sound Settings not opening from indicator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423752 | 23:43 |
| ochosi | hmpf | 23:43 |
| ochosi | great | 23:43 |
| ochosi | i'll check tomorrow and fix it then i guess :/ | 23:44 |
| elfy | how can it be you? | 23:44 |
| ochosi | what? | 23:44 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#line-152 | 23:44 |
| elfy | lol - talking about different things I hope then ochosi :) | 23:45 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: look good? https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/xubuntu-meta/vivid/revision/217 | 23:45 |
| Unit193 | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/198208378/indicator-sound_12.10.2%2B15.04.20150205-0ubuntu1_12.10.2%2B15.04.20150219.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz | 23:45 |
| elfy | knome: thanks :) | 23:45 |
| ochosi | elfy: didn't you say the most recent update for indicator-sound broke the pavucotnrol link? | 23:45 |
| elfy | ochosi: yes - but I blame Ubuntu for that :) | 23:46 |
| Unit193 | krytarik: Look, should be happy now. :P | 23:46 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Aye! | 23:46 |
| knome | deja vu... | 23:46 |
| ochosi | elfy: me too, but as i said, i'll look into tomorrow | 23:46 |
| ochosi | can't be too hard to fix that part | 23:47 |
| knome | ochosi, famous last words... | 23:47 |
| ochosi | hehe | 23:47 |
| elfy | tagged it | 23:47 |
| ochosi | elfy: add it to v-bugs too please | 23:47 |
| elfy | ochosi: okey doke | 23:47 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Also, thanks for removing that file. | 23:48 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: noticed it was still lingering around :) | 23:48 |
| Unit193 | Seed looks good too. | 23:49 |
| krytarik | Unit193, bluesabre: light-locker is still in desktop recommends now. though. | 23:49 |
| Unit193 | krytarik: As it should be. | 23:50 |
| ochosi | nice, it's FF and the features blueprint is almost complete | 23:50 |
| Unit193 | krytarik: Just the double xubuntu-core isn't. | 23:50 |
| ochosi | great work folks! | 23:50 |
| elfy | :) | 23:50 |
| krytarik | Unit193: Wasn't it planned to *move* it to -core, rather than just *add* it? The last paste also indicated otherwise. | 23:52 |
| Unit193 | krytarik: At this point, you can't "move" anything to the core, since desktop is a layer atop of it. Also note that this is the meta refresh, not the seed commit. | 23:53 |
| krytarik | The seeds are fine though indeed. | 23:53 |
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