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lordievaderGood morning.06:36
ovidiu-florinlordievader: aren't you a morning fellow08:01
ovidiu-florinGood morning everyone08:02
ovidiu-florinRiddell: gave me one a link where are the files for our Kubuntu business cards08:02
ovidiu-florindoes anyone know that link?08:02
valoriehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BusinessCards08:03
valoriegoogle knew it08:03
valorie:-)08:03
ovidiu-florinthat's not it08:04
valoriedang it08:05
ovidiu-florinthey are all blue and also have stuff on the back08:05
ovidiu-florinthey were made at the BSP in Munich 2years ago08:06
valorieI know, I have some08:08
valoriewith my email address wrong08:09
valorie:(08:09
ovidiu-florinI want to edit it and make my own08:10
ovidiu-florinand add there all my email addresses08:10
ovidiu-florinand I have 3 + the one from work08:11
ovidiu-florin:D08:11
ovidiu-florinand one is an alias08:11
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Not without coffee I'm not...08:21
valorieI guess Riddell doesn't have that file stashed anywhere that google can find it08:24
valorieI got some free moo cards, but I would really prefer kub. cards with my correct email08:25
valorieprobably my mistake....08:25
* Sick_Rimmit arrives with a smash...08:55
lordievadero/08:57
mgraesslinfyi: I got two crash reports today indicating completely broken mesa on Vivid09:25
Riddellvalorie: what what?09:36
Riddellvalorie, ovidiu-florin: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/business/09:36
ovidiu-florinRiddell: you had one for each one of us09:46
ovidiu-florinwhere are those?09:46
ovidiu-florinah09:47
ovidiu-florinin the new folder09:47
ovidiu-florinthank you09:47
RiddellI guess so, sorry it's not very tidy09:47
ovidiu-florinRiddell: why are all the front svgs empty?09:51
ovidiu-florinand only the pdfs have the information?09:51
Riddellovidiu-florin: dunno I'm afraid, the front is the same for all and there's probably 1 copy somewhere I used for all09:58
ovidiu-florinso I could be missing the Ubuntu font on Kubuntu?09:58
Riddellmgraesslin: looks like 10.5.0 is going in [ubuntu/vivid-proposed] mesa 10.5.0~rc1-0ubuntu1 (Accepted)09:58
Riddellmgraesslin: at least they updated is at feature freeze and not 1 week before release as is their style09:59
Riddellmgraesslin: can you point me to your bug reports? I'll pass them on09:59
mgraesslinRiddell: let's wait whether there is a pattern before making noise09:59
Riddellovidiu-florin: unlike we do ship with the ubuntu font09:59
ovidiu-florinRiddell: open this please and tell me if you see other text then the SHA: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/business/new/kubuntu-ovidiu.svg10:00
ovidiu-florinif you see any text other than the SHA*10:01
valorieI don't see any other text, ovidiu-florin10:06
Riddellovidiu-florin: yes I see it all10:06
Riddellin inkscape10:06
Riddellwhat are you using?10:06
ovidiu-florinChromium and Karbon10:07
valorieoops, I just opened it in FF, sorry for the noise10:07
ovidiu-florinthey both see null, nada10:07
Riddellovidiu-florin: use inkscape10:07
ovidiu-florinI see them now10:08
ovidiu-florinthank you10:08
ovidiu-florinRiddell: can I make any changes I want to it?10:08
Riddellovidiu-florin: of course10:10
Riddellbut if you write "kubuntu smells" on it then don't expect us to pay for the printing :)10:10
ovidiu-florinRiddell: why are there 2 dashes at the end of the SHA?10:10
ovidiu-florinoh, I didn't expect you to pay for the printing at all10:10
ovidiu-florinRiddell: but what if I write Kubuntu smells nice ? :P10:11
Riddellovidiu-florin: hmm no idea about the dashes, remove them10:12
Riddellovidiu-florin: you should, the donations money is there to be used10:12
* sitter calls for blackjack and hookers10:14
sitterhow does one draw a box in gimp?10:15
sebasDraw a rect, then cut out a rect in its center?10:18
sebasMy gimp skills are a bit rusty :)10:18
Riddelluse krita :)10:24
* sitter used inkscape10:26
sittersebas: that would have worked I suppose10:27
sebasinkscape seems like the more suitable tool for it, though10:27
ovidiu-florinsitter: you don't draw in GIMP10:41
ovidiu-florinuse Krita or Inkscape or Karbon10:41
ovidiu-florinKarbon still lacks a few basic things10:42
ovidiu-florinso does most of the Calligra suite...10:42
ovidiu-florin:(10:42
sittergprp10:47
sitterwait, you are not my terminal10:47
* sitter squints10:47
RiddellKarbon is unmaintained and will probably be killed10:48
ovidiu-florindo you guys know how to move 2 rectangles next to each other in inkscape?10:49
ovidiu-florinexcept for super zoom and tedious mouse movement pixel by pixel10:49
sittereither enable snap to grid or use the alignment feature creatively10:49
ovidiu-florinI've tried the alignment thing...10:50
ovidiu-florineighter I'm stupid, or that doesn't work like this10:50
ovidiu-florinhow do I snap to grid?10:50
sitterno clue, you ahve to enable the grid somewhere10:51
ovidiu-florinI have the grid visible10:52
ovidiu-florinsolved: http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/29059/inkscape-align-edges-sequentially10:59
ovidiu-florinI have 2 rectangles, one with round edges, on top of each other, aligned at a corner. How can I remove the corner that shows from the rectangle with straight corners?11:13
sitterMirv: I presume you'd prefer if I let you integrate qt fixes we'd need?11:14
ovidiu-florinoffff... wrong channel, sorry for the spam11:16
soeeRiddell: we need to wait for this 4 to be fixed before tests: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-staging/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=vivid ?11:18
Mirvsitter: preferably yes, and a have patience of a few days for regression testing. even though ubuntu-rtm is what ships to phone users, the quality focus starts to be more and more in vivid too. could you do MP:s against the ~kubuntu-packagers branches and I'll publish them via silos?11:19
Mirvjust ping me and I'll start churning on those11:19
sitterMirv: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/105744/ https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/101845/  https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/106729/11:20
sitterthey all affect xcb so one would hope rtm isn't affected11:20
soeeoh next cloud storage: http://life.wamari.com/2015/02/20/mega-cloud-storage-50gb-of-cloud-storage/11:21
sitteralso the last one isn't merged yet, so we can also hold off on that until approved 11:21
Mirvsitter: rtm is launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm, based on utopic, no worries it'd be affected :)11:21
sitterah fair enough xD11:22
Mirvwill be vivid later on11:22
Riddellsoee: I guess so, retrying11:22
Mirvsitter: but, indeed, xcb shouldn't hurt when not using xcb like on the phones..11:23
Mirvsitter: if you don't mind, do a MP for me to upload to a landing PPA, but I can also just take a note of those and cherry-pick myself11:24
sitterRiddell: did anyone volunteer for 5.2.1 packaging yet? if not I'll do a forward merge from kubuntu_stable to vivid_archive once I have an ISO. then at least someone who wants to do it doesn't have to mess with that11:24
sitterMirv: ok, I'll to get them done later today11:24
Mirvok11:25
Riddellsitter: yes sgclark is on it11:26
Riddellsitter: see http://goo.gl/TXeE7Y11:26
sittereh11:26
sitterRiddell: and who merged the branches?11:27
Riddellsitter: I'm not sure anyone did, what needs merged?11:27
sitterkubuntu_stable to kubuntu_vivid_archive...11:27
sitteri.e. what was uploaded is once again missing all stuff that happened in CI already11:28
Riddellah hah11:29
sittergoing to run a merge once I finished downloading :S11:29
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:56
Riddellshadeslayer: you may also want to request your refreshments from the other night https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2015-February/038700.html12:01
Riddellsitter: also replied although may be too late for FF https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2015-February/038701.html12:01
* sitter has an excitingly broken konversation that doesn't open urls :'<12:02
sitterRiddell: such pragmatism xD12:02
sitterRiddell: the pizza mail's lat paragraph I don't understand12:07
sitteralso good news: vivid_archive and stable seem to be aligned anyway, nothing to merge anywhere12:07
sitterwhich is god given that kwin has new symbols according to the status page12:07
sitters/god/odd12:08
BluesKajand the feature freeze now underway12:09
soeewhere can i find konversation bugs ?12:18
BluesKajlaunchpad , soee, or http://bugs.kde.org12:23
sitterbrum12:23
sitterRiddell: all 5.2.1 tars need respinning12:24
soeeBluesKaj: ok seems like the bug with opening links isnt reported yet12:27
BluesKajlinks open here soee, but I still ahve that weird cpu max-out on one core whenever I join this chatroom12:29
soeeopen for you oO ?12:29
soeethe one from channel topic or chat itsef ?12:29
BluesKajthe chat, if I switch to offtopic or most others the usage drops to 10% which is normal ,12:32
BluesKajthis chat and #konversation both suffer from the the same issue12:32
BluesKajsoee, which browser do you have setup to link ?12:33
soeechromium should be12:34
BluesKajchromium won't launch here if it's already open, it just blinks, then you have to click it12:36
BluesKajerr chrome rather12:36
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soeeBluesKaj: it all worked nice in previos vesion,12:38
soeejust thsi 1.6-beta1 has this issue12:39
BluesKajthis beta version is slow to change rooms as well 12:39
soeeok solved it :o12:44
soeein System Settings -> Applications, for webbrowser i had set: Open http and https in an app defined by URL content12:46
soeei defined custom app (chromium-browser) and now links work fine12:46
soeeso konversation did not know what app to use if we dont specify one there ?12:47
sitterRiddell: ping12:48
BluesKajsoee, yes 12:48
BluesKajsoee, in konversation>settings>configure konverstaion>behaviour>general behaviour>use custom browser 12:54
BluesKajalso there12:54
soeeBluesKaj: i think konversation should use defautl system browser12:55
BluesKajsoee, usually if the custom browser option is unchecked the default browser is supposed to be used, but that setting doesn't always work12:57
soeeBluesKaj: ok, thanks13:00
soeescrolling by dragging in gwenview is broken13:25
Riddellsitter: pon13:32
Riddellsitter: pong13:32
sitterRiddell: documentation is fucked beyond apprehension13:34
sitterhttp://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-desktop.git&a=blob&h=c2f27d53f9ba66343e50604bf50e61a6a08076fb&hb=a143f6cf09ab53945880741b36529866b393da71&f=doc%2Fkcontrol%2FCMakeLists.txt13:35
sitterifs like that cannot work13:35
sitterthe l10n structure is divergent from the structure in git pretty much13:36
sitterhttp://quickgit.kde.org/?p=powerdevil.git&a=tree&h=49f8e9a90db38ac68dec4a610f03964c78d1acdc&hb=4d643cba8ad5c099aa540f7c968bbf36ea484ed3&f=doc%2Fkcm13:36
sitterdoc/kcm/13:36
sitterhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kf5/de/docs/kde-workspace/kcontrol/powerdevil/13:36
sitterkcontorl/powerdevil/13:36
sittereither the directory structure in git must be 100% like that in l10n or the ifs need to go13:37
Riddellsitter: why do the ifs make a difference?13:40
sitterRiddell: they can't be replicated into other languages13:43
Riddellsitter: shall I just get rid of it?13:43
sitterin en you'd if in kcm/CMakeListst.txt and in another language the directory suddenly is kcontrol/powerdevil/CMakeLists.txt13:43
sitterRiddell: I don't know, either the ifs go or the directory structure in l10n must change13:44
Riddellsuse packager also says "all docs now go to en_US subdir instead of en, this is wanted behavior"13:44
sitterhave a fix for that, that's why all tars need respinning13:45
Riddelluh oh13:46
soeeRiddell: some news maybe about 14.04.2 ? Softpedia: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kubuntu-14-04-2-LTS-Officially-Released-Users-Can-No-Longer-Upgrade-to-Plasma-5-473789.shtml13:47
soee"There is no official word from the Kubuntu team (as of yet) about this particular release"13:47
Riddellum13:48
RiddellI'm very confused by that article13:49
Riddellhave we ever packaged Plasma 5 for 14.04?13:49
soee14.10 had it through ppa-next, im not sure bout 14.0413:50
sitterhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kf5/de/docs/kde-workspace/kdesu/ <- the manpage is in there because in the same cmakelists there is a handbook install into kdesu13:50
sitterguess who is going to open a bottle of booze now13:51
sitterRiddell: I actually think l10n needs to change13:51
sitterthis structure is mental13:51
shadeslayerRiddell: I don't have the receit for the refreshments anymore I think14:05
Riddellshadeslayer: shouldn't be a problem14:06
soeeBluesKaj: ping14:13
BluesKajsoee, pong14:13
soeeBluesKaj: could you please test one thing and confirm on bug tracker: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344384 ?14:13
ubottuKDE bug 344384 in Image Wallpaper "Wrong item focus after wallpaper removal" [Normal,Unconfirmed]14:13
sitterRiddell: what would you have me do to fix documentation?14:15
sitteras a matter of fact, probably just making it install to en again would be an improvement over 5.2.0 as it covers more localization now, albeit not all because of the pathing bullshit14:15
BluesKajsoee, yes I can confirm that without trying it again, already encountered that bug 14:16
soeeah nice14:17
Riddellsitter: install to en seems fine14:20
sitterRiddell: pushed14:23
sitterall tars need respinning14:23
Riddellhmm, I'm about to leave for spanish alas14:23
Riddellso it'll need to be later14:23
Riddellsitter: and the if() in plasma-desktop docs cmake?14:24
sitterRiddell: just leave it in for now14:25
sitteryou need to dicuss this with the l10n guys IMO14:25
Riddellwibble14:25
Riddellthey're so much more elite than me I get scared of feeling unworthy14:26
* Riddell out14:26
sitterright now the entire l10n dir structure is based on the kde-l10n-xx thing, where it simply wasn't possible to have the if nonesense14:26
sitterso if the relevant devs want to if then l10n needs to change structure to follow the structure in git (which would make sense for consistency reasons anyway I'd think)14:27
sitterif the devs can live without the ifs or l10n doesn't want to change structure then the ifs need to go14:27
mparilloI see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04.2/release/ is out. Do we want a news item on Kubuntu.org?14:28
sitterthird option possibly would be to write a cmake macro that installs everything in doc/ in a sane fashion14:28
sitterthat is to say it's not impossible to bridge the two expectations together, it's just impossible for releaseme as it would require actually being able to accurately parse cmake code14:29
kfunksgclark: wazzup with 5.2.1? :)14:30
mparillohttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-1404-lts-update-out14:48
soee_mparillo: small typo "bufixes"14:50
mparillosoee_: That is what I get for blindly copying from .1 ;-) Fixing...14:53
soee_-.-14:53
sgclarkkfunk: not sure, the two failed don't seem to care for the two packages with different versions, looking into it15:42
shadeslayeryay for my stupid hw : https://www.apple.com/ca/support/macbookpro-videoissues/16:05
shadeslayersgclark: could you plz join #debian-qt-kde on OFTC?16:09
sgclarkshadeslayer: yep sorry forgot to set that up16:11
shadeslayer:)16:12
shadeslayersgclark: you're working on kdevelop right?16:12
sgclarkyeah16:12
shadeslayerok, maxy had a question for you16:12
sgclark libkf5filemetadata-dev : Depends: libkf5filemetadata3 (= 5.6.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed  this is quite baffeling16:43
yofelrun the debug mode or aptitude, that alone doesn't tell much16:44
sgclarkdebug mode?16:44
sgclarkthis is in next-staging16:44
yofel-o debug::pkgproblemresolver=116:45
yofelah16:45
sgclarkfunny thing is it builds in ci lol16:46
yofelwell, then you at least know that it's fixable :P16:47
ovidiu-florinyo17:32
ovidiu-florinwho here has inkscape and plasma 5.2 installed?17:33
ovidiu-florin(on the same machine, in the same os)17:33
Neo31back19:26
Neo31sorry guys lost the exact versions that needs testing 19:27
Neo31and i lost the irc logs19:27
Neo31any help please ?19:27
ovidiu-florinI think this is broken: https://paste.kde.org/p7xwegseb/testhb19:30
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soee_sgclark: how 5.2.1 looks ?22:33
sgclarksoee_: terrible, random fail on a depend that exists and I have no idea... it does not fail in ci and there is absolutely nothing different22:34
soee_sgclark: the only difference is that ci has more packages ?22:40
sgclarksoee_: plasma-workspace is the blocker. It does not fail in ci, but launchpad it fails saying a depend is not installable, but it is installable and in the same ppa..22:43
sgclarksomeone smarter than me needs to look because I am clueless22:44
soee_oh thats not me :)22:45
soee_yofel: ^ ?22:45
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soeesgclark: this is the problem  libkf5filemetadata-dev : Depends: libkf5filemetadata3 (= 5.6.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed ?23:18
sgclarkyes23:20
soeeand libkf5filemetadata3 can't be installed ?23:22
sgclarksoee: sure it can, the build was a success and in the same ppa23:29
soeesgclark: build of what ?23:30
sgclarklibkf5filemetadata323:30
sgclarklibkf5filemetadata3_5.6.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1_i386.deb (28.3 KiB) 23:31
soeesorry for so many questions, but im not familiar with it and this is some opportunity to learn new stuff23:31
sgclarknp23:32
soeeand thers no info why it is not hoing to be installed ?23:32
sgclarkother sets of eyes are always good23:32
sgclarkI likely need to run it through verbose pbuilder, but i have not set up pbuilder since new install :( my next step though when I am done fighting with my kde ci stuff23:33
soeecan it be check with -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=1 ?23:33
soeeto get some detailed info why it cant be installed ?23:34
sgclarkright in pbuilder23:34
sgclarkhense why I need to set up pbuilder23:34
soeeah i don't know what pbuilder is :)23:34
sgclarkmini launchpad to build local with a clean build enviroment23:35
sgclarkI guess it could be compared to a container, I think23:35
soeewhat does the first 'p' letter means ?23:36
sgclarklol no clue23:37
sgclarkpackage?23:38
soee:)23:38
soeeuncle google: pbuilder stands for Personal Builder23:38
soeethis one right  http://pbuilder.alioth.debian.org/ ?23:38
sgclarkcool23:40
soeeoh "It does not try to guess what a package needs, and in most cases it tries the worst choice of all if there is a choice to be made."23:41

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