[00:11] <aSheepie> Silly question, if I'm deving an app, where do I set the group into which it falls, e.g. Communication ? I've looked at the twitter app src and can't find where that specifies it
[00:40] <mariogrip> ogra_ I need your help
[00:41] <Elleo> aSheepie: you select that when uploading to http://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com
[00:44] <aSheepie> Elleo: Ah, thanks, so if it's an app I'm installing directly to the phone, there's no way of doing this then? Reason is, I'm making a second Twitter webapp container so I can run two accounts simultaneously and I was hoping to put it in the Communication category alongside the core Twitter app
[00:46] <Elleo> aSheepie: yeah, not sure if there's any way to do it manually
[00:48] <aSheepie> Elleo: OK, thanks, it's not a huge issue, I guess, it's just that I like to get things properly set up and that was niggling at me
[05:34] <weasleynih2> hello
[05:35] <weasleynih2> ubuntu touch support for gionee elife 37
[05:36] <weasleynih2> ubuntu touch support or download for gionee e7
[07:23] <sturmflut-work> Good morning!
[07:32] <dholbach> good morning
[07:35] <sturmflut-work> dholbach: o/
[07:39] <dholbach> hi sturmflut-work
[08:04] <sturmflut-work> Travelling for nerds: Going to Java, Linus Torvalds' birthplace and actual Monkey Island.
[10:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Love Your Pet Day! :-D
[10:08]  * ogra_ goes to find his cats to cuddle them
[10:09]  * popey goes to find dholbach to cuddle him
[10:11]  * dholbach hugs ogra_ and popey
[10:11]  * lotuspsychje cuddles his nexus7
[10:56] <mcphail> After the tradition of cuddling your pet, you all owe me a new goldfish.
[11:03] <ogra_> we'll start a crowdfunding campaign
[11:05] <mcphail> ogra_: you'd be better starting the defibrillator
[11:05] <ogra_> are there small enough ones for goldfish ?
[11:59] <supaflu> https://twitter.com/locusf : homemade sailfishos cellphone the piolla XD
[12:10] <Elleo> popey: you haven't heard of anyone working on a shoutcast app have you?
[12:12] <popey> Elleo: nope
[12:12] <Elleo> popey: okay, cool; looks like I've got a new side project then ;)
[12:12] <popey> hah
[12:12] <Elleo> popey: figured out that if I parse the .pls myself I can get media-hub to handle the stream properly :)
[12:12] <popey> nice!
[12:45] <os1r1s> I am having a problem with flashing an asus nexus (2012) to ubuntu touch (trusty version).  I got all the way to the flash step and ran the flash updater.  Lastly it said "Failed to enter Recovery".  It had a boot screen, but after reboot it does nothing.  Can anyone help?
[12:45] <rvr> cyphermox: ping
[12:58] <os1r1s> Anyone?
[13:20] <dpm> ogra_, rsalveti, sergiusens, check this out: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/ :-)
[13:20] <dpm> nice work davidcalle ^ :-)
[13:20] <dpm> and everyone involved, including Jani
[13:22] <ogra_> dpm, awesome !
[13:23] <davidcalle> ogra_, rsalveti, sergiusens, if you don't already, you are going to have editor rights on that thing, but ping me for awful-awful things that need to be resolved asap :)
[13:23] <dpm> yep, going to set up permissions right after lunch
[13:23] <dpm> bbiab
[13:25] <sergiusens> dpm: davidcalle \o/
[13:30] <rsalveti> dpm: davidcalle: great, thanks!
[13:34] <ogra_> !porting
[13:34] <ogra_> hmm, i know we had a bot entry for it
[13:37] <OerHeks> ogra_, in the /topic > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[13:37] <ogra_> OerHeks, lol, yes i put it there ages ago :)
[13:39] <ogra_> davidcalle, can we get an auto redirect of that wikipage to the new guide ?
[13:47] <cyphermox> rvr: hey
[13:51] <davidcalle> ogra_, I'd like to. dpm, mhall119, dholbach, do you know if it's possible?
[13:51] <ogra_> i think we do it for other pages
[13:51] <dpm> I think so too
[13:51] <dholbach>  #REFRESH 2 http:/...........
[13:51] <dpm> is there not a #REDIRECT thing?
[13:52] <dpm> a there you go :)
[13:52] <ogra_> but why does it need to shout ?
[13:52] <ogra_> :=)
[13:52] <cyphermox> ogra_: to make really sure it redirects.
[13:53] <dholbach> it's the sudo of moinmoin :)
[13:53] <davidcalle> dholbach, thanks, I was missing the "2"
[13:54] <dholbach> that's an argument to specify the seconds
[13:54] <dholbach> if you use "0" it'll be hard for somebody to change the page later on again
[13:54] <dholbach> in that case you won't have a chance to hit "edit"
[13:54] <dholbach> instead you'll have to know to append &action=edit to the URL :)
[13:56] <davidcalle> dholbach, it redirects to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/<url> , what's wrong? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting?action=edit
[13:57] <dholbach> davidcalle, REFRESH
[13:57] <dholbach> not redirect
[13:57] <davidcalle> Ah :)
[13:57] <rvr> cyphermox: Hey. I was testing mtp. I was surprised that in Mac, the transferred files has 1970-1-1 00:00 as date.
[13:58] <rvr> cyphermox: From phone to desktop.
[13:58] <cyphermox> ah, yeah\
[13:58] <cyphermox> I suspect the date isn't being set in the mtp database
[13:58] <davidcalle> dholbach, \o/
[13:58] <dholbach> yeehaw!
[13:59] <cyphermox> rvr: date created or date modified?
[13:59] <rvr> cyphermox: Date modified
[14:00] <cyphermox> rvr: looks like it's probably set, but it may be wrong anyway
[14:00] <cyphermox> rvr: wanna play with this?
[14:05] <dpm> davidcalle, I love the overview steps at the start of the guide, and the terminology section. I think these make the guide much easier to navigate and understand
[14:09] <cyphermox> rvr: looking at the spec it looks like there data format isn't properly specified for dates, that may be what breaks it on Mac
[14:11] <rvr> cyphermox: I haven't tested with an Android.
[14:15] <rvr> cyphermox: Using Android, transferring a picture from Mac to device, last modified time is changed. From device to Mac, time is kept.
[14:17] <cyphermox> you mean kept as epoch
[14:17] <cyphermox> well, as 0 really
[14:18] <cyphermox> rvr: I understand, but it's probably just a small bit missing in mtp; from what I can quickly see it may be missing a uint8 in the data packet to set the "form" of the string that passes the date.
[14:18] <rvr> cyphermox: 2014-08-31
[14:18] <cyphermox> rvr: which device is that from?
[14:20] <rvr> cyphermox: I have some photos in a Nexus 7 (Android), and the modified dates are transferred correctly to Mac desktop.
[14:21] <cyphermox> yes, I understood that part
[14:21] <cyphermox> but I also can't do anything about Android, the code I can touch is the code we have in Touch, in the mtp project
[14:21] <rvr> I run the mtp test in krillin
[14:23] <rvr> cyphermox: I wanted to confirm it wasn't a regression
[14:25] <cyphermox> well, I'd be surprised if it was
[14:40] <kenvandine> cyphermox, can you add a review to this? https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/bluetooth-working-pairing-only/+merge/249172
[14:40] <seb128> kenvandine, hey, no settings meeting today?
[14:41] <kenvandine> oh!
[14:41] <kenvandine> i forgot it was friday :)
[14:41] <kenvandine> seb128, did anyone show up?
[14:41] <kenvandine> seb128, besides you
[14:41] <kenvandine> :)
[14:41] <seb128> kenvandine, I tried to join nobody was there
[14:41] <seb128> I guess no meeting then :-)
[14:42] <kenvandine> i guess we just skipped this weeks :)
[14:42] <kenvandine> seb128, i was busy reviewing your branches :)
[14:44] <seb128> kenvandine, \o/
[14:47] <kenvandine> seb128, i had a question on your bluetooth-device-visibility-tweak branch
[14:49] <seb128> kenvandine, shoot
[14:50] <kenvandine> Do we really want to make it discoverable regardless of the previous state?
[14:50] <kenvandine> i asked in the MP too
[14:53] <seb128> kenvandine, hum, maybe not, do you know cases where that panel is in focus and shouldn't be discoverable?
[14:53] <kenvandine> seb128, and i wanted to get a review from cyphermox for your other bt branch
[14:54] <kenvandine> seb128, i was thinking about that, right now when you go to that page it goes right to discoverable
[14:54] <kenvandine> shouldn'
[14:54] <kenvandine> t that be the opposite?
[14:54] <kenvandine> start out undescoverable
[14:54] <kenvandine> and let you switch it
[14:55] <kenvandine> don't we default to off on the desktop?
[14:55] <kenvandine> and you have to switch visible on?
[14:55] <seb128> kenvandine, what we do on the desktop doesn't make sense
[14:55] <kenvandine> seb128, right now if you turn it off
[14:55] <kenvandine> and load the page, it doesn't turn it on
[14:56] <seb128> on what?
[14:56] <kenvandine> the phone
[14:56] <seb128> turn what off?
[14:56] <seb128> there is no visibility setting
[14:56] <cyphermox> kenvandine: the discoverable part is in the design
[14:56] <seb128> we enable it 1s after loading the page
[14:56] <kenvandine> oh
[14:56]  * kenvandine was confused :)
[14:56] <cyphermox> ie. you get to the page and it enables it after 1s, right
[14:56] <cyphermox> 1s is really fast though considering how fast the page loads...
[14:56] <kenvandine> seb128, ok, so then your branch makes sense
[14:57] <cyphermox> kenvandine: approved your mr, btw.
[14:57] <kenvandine> cyphermox, thanks!
[14:57] <cyphermox> or rather seb's
[14:57] <kenvandine> i'll land both of these after i land silo 21
[14:57] <seb128> cyphermox, kenvandine, in fact it's slightly buggy :-/
[14:57] <seb128> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth#Discoverability
[14:58] <kenvandine> seb128, oh?
[14:58] <seb128> kenvandine, it should do it after 1 second
[14:58] <cyphermox> yeah, missing the spinner
[14:58] <cyphermox> seb128: it is, after 1 second. but that gets mixed up in page drawing time
[14:58] <seb128> cyphermox, does it? shouldn't the spinner be linked to the state?
[14:59] <cyphermox> ie. this code gets run before the page is fully displayed, AFAICT
[14:59] <cyphermox> as I recall there was a spinner added and the "right" code for it
[14:59] <cyphermox> should be easy to test by bumping that to a 10s delay or something, though
[14:59] <mariogrip> ogra_ i need you help :)
[14:59] <mariogrip> your*
[15:00] <kenvandine> cyphermox, it doesn't feel like 1s... feels faster
[15:00] <kenvandine> cyphermox, and when you leave the page, it is supposed to pause long enough for you to see it change to "Not discoverable"
[15:00] <rvr> cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtp/+bug/1423932
[15:01] <cyphermox> kenvandine: yeah, that too
[15:04] <seb128> cyphermox, kenvandine, I don't understand what you mean for the after 1s
[15:04] <seb128> it does it in the backend
[15:04] <seb128>         // Delay enabling discoverability by 1 second.
[15:04] <seb128>         m_discoverableTimer.setSingleShot(true);
[15:04] <seb128>         connect(&m_discoverableTimer, SIGNAL(timeout()), this, SLOT(slotEnableDiscoverable()));
[15:04] <kenvandine> seb128, yeah... it just feels so fast
[15:04] <kenvandine> you don't get to see it change at all
[15:04] <seb128> kenvandine, cyphermox, well, the code I added does it on focus, without delay
[15:04] <seb128> so it regresses that part
[15:04] <kenvandine> i just tried it without your branch
[15:05] <kenvandine> i think the timer should be in the qml side
[15:05] <kenvandine> and do it onComponentComplete
[15:05] <cyphermox> seb128: not the branch I just reviewed though, where is that other code?
[15:05] <cyphermox> do you need a review for it?
[15:06] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/bluetooth-device-visibility-tweak/+merge/250105
[15:06] <kenvandine> cyphermox, ^^
[15:07] <cyphermox> ah, well actually if it was already open before I guess we don't need to go through another round of waiting 1 second
[15:07] <cyphermox> but it's up to you
[15:07] <cyphermox> and I agree it probably should be dependent on what the switch state was at that point
[15:08] <cyphermox> this is making it really complicated though :(
[15:14] <mariogrip> I am trying to port Ubuntu touch to OnePlus one but im stuck at a kernel panic run-init  /dev/console no such file or directory
[15:14] <mariogrip> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!  Do you guys have any ideas? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/10325673/)
[15:18] <dobey> mariogrip: did you rebuild the kernel with the ubuntu config and necessar patches?
[15:19] <mariogrip> Yes, I used the kernel checker too to make i correct
[15:19] <mariogrip> it*
[15:31] <elopio> renato___: thanks for the review here: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/address-book-app/main_window_objectName/+merge/250259
[15:31] <elopio> now how do we get it landed?
[15:34] <renato___> elopio, we need a silo for it
[15:35] <renato___> kenvandine, could you request a silo with this MR ^^
[15:36] <renato___> and the mr that you mentioned during the meeting
[15:36] <kenvandine> renato___, sure
[15:36] <renato___> kenvandine, one more: https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/address-book-app/upgrade-test-library-import-1.0/+merge/232968
[15:36] <mariogrip> YES! the new porting guide is online!
[15:37] <renato___> kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/address-book-app/aim_is_not_aim/+merge/249161
[15:40] <renato___> elopio, could you review the pending MR related with autopilot tests: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/address-book-app/trunk/+activereviews
[15:40] <renato___> elopio, there is some very old stuff there
[15:40] <kenvandine> renato___, the upgrade-test-library-import-1.0 branch hasn't been reviewed yet
[15:41] <kenvandine> and old... i wonder if it would even merge cleanly
[15:42] <renato___> kenvandine, yes lets keep this to a second wave :D
[15:42] <kenvandine> renato___, ok, so just the 2 branches?
[15:43] <renato___> and your branch
[15:43] <renato___> I did not find it
[15:43] <elopio> renato___: the two branches related to autopilot I see there are old, need to be updated.
[15:43] <renato___> elopio, https://code.launchpad.net/~rhuddie/address-book-app/add-photo-helper/+merge/227519
[15:43] <elopio> renato___: were you talking of a branch other than those two?
[15:43] <renato___> elopio, https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/address-book-app/test_collapse/+merge/211505
[15:43] <renato___> elopio, https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/address-book-app/autopilot-upstart/+merge/212747
[15:44] <renato___> elopio, and this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/address-book-app/upgrade-test-library-import-1.0/+merge/232968
[15:44] <elopio> ok, looking.
[15:44] <kenvandine> renato___, i have these 2
[15:44] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/address-book-app/main_window_objectName/+merge/250259
[15:44] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/address-book-app/aim_is_not_aim/+merge/249161
[15:44] <kenvandine> renato___, the aim_is_not_aim branch is the one i approved this morning
[15:45] <renato___> kenvandine, hum ok then
[15:45] <renato___> kenvandine, thanks
[15:45] <kenvandine> renato___, ok, so that's it for this landing?
[15:45] <renato___> yes
[15:46] <kenvandine> renato___, silo 24
[15:46] <renato___> kenvandine, thanks
[15:46] <kenvandine> renato___, so really all we need to do for testing is run the AP tests?
[15:46] <renato___> kenvandine, well there is this test plan here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/address-book-app
[15:47] <renato___> but I am not sure if it is necessary for these changes
[15:47] <kenvandine> renato___, yeah, it's a one line change in qml
[15:47] <kenvandine> and the rest tests
[15:48] <kenvandine> plus the translators comments
[15:48] <renato___> exactly
[15:48] <kenvandine> i'll run the AP tests and verify the app loads
[15:48] <kenvandine> well, AP will verify that :)
[15:52] <kenvandine> renato___, and address-book-app isn't published as a click is it?  still deb only?
[15:53] <renato___> kenvandine, yes
[15:53] <kenvandine> renato___, yes deb only?
[15:53] <renato___> yes deb only :D
[15:53] <kenvandine> thanks :)
[15:57] <john-mcaleely> slangasek, any news on your vivid channels proposal?
[15:58] <mariogrip> ogra_ you there? i need you help
[15:58] <mariogrip> your*
[16:02] <mariogrip> I am trying to port Ubuntu touch to OnePlus one but im stuck at a kernel panic run-init /dev/console no such file or directory I am trying to port Ubuntu touch to OnePlus one but im stuck at a kernel panic run-init /dev/console no such file or directory <mariogrip> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Do you guys have any ideas? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/10325673/)Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Do you g
[16:02] <mariogrip> uys have any ideas? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/10325673/)
[16:02] <mariogrip> trying to port Ubuntu touch to OnePlus one but im stuck at a kernel panic run-init /dev/console no such file or directory <mariogrip> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! Do you guys have any ideas? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/10325673/
[16:05] <ogra_> mariogrip, make sure devtmpfs is enabled in your kernel
[16:05] <mariogrip> it is
[16:05] <ogra_> and the various console options like CONFIG_VT and CONFIG_CONSOLE etc
[16:06] <ogra_> probably CONFIG_HW_CONSOLE too ... there are a bunch you can play with
[16:06] <mariogrip> they are all on
[16:07] <ogra_> oh and you already fixed it, i see
[16:07] <mariogrip> btw, I used the kernel checker tool also
[16:08] <ogra_> the second half of you paste shows you are ooting into the ubuntu rootfs
[16:08] <mariogrip> I added this console=tty0, but i have no idea if it correct or not
[16:08] <ogra_> yes, it obviously sorted out that issue :)
[16:08] <mariogrip> :)
[16:08] <ogra_> where did you get the rootfs image from ?
[16:09] <mariogrip> It downloaded when i compiled the kernel
[16:10] <ogra_> i didnt ask "when" did you get the rootfs ;)
[16:10] <mariogrip> hehe sorry, cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/
[16:11] <ogra_> right, which one exactly
[16:11] <mariogrip> vivid
[16:11] <mariogrip>  vivid-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz
[16:11] <ogra_> that should be fine then
[16:13] <ogra_> are you able to adb in ?
[16:13] <mariogrip> one more thing, adbd seems like it has a problem starting: adbd undefined instruction
[16:13] <mariogrip> No, i cannot
[16:13] <ogra_> where do you get that error ?
[16:13] <mariogrip> last_kmsg
[16:14] <ogra_> can you paste the full log somewhere ?
[16:14] <mariogrip> btw i added this to get more errors: exec >/dev/kmsg 2>&1
[16:14] <mariogrip> yes
[16:15] <mariogrip> note there is some broken blocks here because i was needed to do a hard reboot... http://paste.ubuntu.com/10326438/
[16:17] <mariogrip> ignore my ls -l outputs
[16:19] <ogra_> wow
[16:20] <ogra_> you got quite a few partitions on that mmc
[16:20] <ogra_> mmcblk0p28
[16:20] <ogra_> heh
[16:21] <mariogrip> :P
[16:22] <mariogrip> is NETFILTER required?
[16:22] <ogra_> not enforced atm
[16:23] <ogra_> it might be in the future
[16:23] <mariogrip> okey, the build failed when CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_MATCH_CONNBYTES, so i just disabled it
[16:38] <mariogrip> btw, this is the adbd error message i get adbd (255): undefined instruction: pc=b6da4368
[16:44] <ogra_> mariogrip, i'm a bit busy with meetings today .. there is a new porting guide up though, see if you can get forward with that ... there is a developer adbd at http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/adbd try to replace the one on the rootfs with it
[16:45] <mariogrip> ogra_ Okey
[17:16] <kenvandine> cyphermox, seb128: what was the verdict with the bluetooth-device-visibility-tweak branch, are we happy with it as is?
[17:17] <seb128> kenvandine, would be better if we restored the 1s tempo I think
[17:17] <kenvandine> nah
[17:17] <kenvandine> this is just when we switch back to it with the page open
[17:17] <kenvandine> i think it's fine
[17:17] <seb128> are you sure it's not also called on first time we focus?
[17:17] <kenvandine> it isn'
[17:17] <kenvandine> t
[17:18] <kenvandine> well, i'm pretty sure :)
[17:18] <kenvandine> because the app is already focused
[17:18] <kenvandine> when the page loads
[17:18] <seb128> oh, good then ;-)
[17:18] <kenvandine> if we get that state change there, it's a bug
[17:18] <kenvandine> imo
[17:21] <seb128> kenvandine, it's called if you open that panel directly :-/
[17:21] <kenvandine> ah
[17:21] <kenvandine> from the indicator?
[17:21] <seb128> yes
[17:22] <kenvandine> bugger
[17:29] <seb128> kenvandine, well, I guess it's easy enough to delay with a qml timer, I've to call it a week in 15 minutes, so feel free to pick that up or I can look to it on monday
[17:30] <kenvandine> seb128, ok, i might take a stab at it today
[17:30] <kenvandine> if not monday is fine
[17:30] <seb128> k
[17:30] <seb128> kenvandine, just replace the start by a time.start and have the timer do the call
[17:31] <kenvandine> seb128, have a good weekend
[17:31] <seb128> or maybe just have it not doing it on the first call
[17:31] <seb128> or like only if a variable is set and set it on Component.onComplete
[17:31] <seb128> since the backends does the first set anyway
[17:31] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks, you too!
[18:25] <mariogrip> ogra_ when you have time: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10328289/
[19:08] <triath> Hi guys, trying to install on my nexus 10, but after i unlocked the device and issued fastboot reboot it seems stuck on the booting screen, how should I proceed?
[19:19] <dobey> triath: the bootloader screen?
[19:19] <triath> dobey: no, the android loading screen, the colorful dots swirling
[19:20] <dobey> triath: well i guess wait until android boots and then reobot to the bootloader, and then flash
[19:21] <triath> dobey: should I unplug it and reboot again, because it's been like this for approx 30 minutes now or could that cause error?
[19:26] <dobey> triath: sure
[19:31] <mariogrip> do anyone know how the last_kmsg should look when it booted successfully (adb shell is not working, so i cannot tell if it has more errors or it booted into shell with no ui)
[19:31] <mariogrip> here is my last_kmsg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10328289/
[19:32] <mariogrip> i cannot connect to adb shell, and it does not panic
[19:32] <mariogrip> but no ui
[21:02] <triath> Got it installed on my new nexus 10, looks good :)
[21:11] <triath> Anyone know the status of bluetooth?
[21:36] <OerHeks> awesome, rapoo wireless touch mouse works OOTB with touch-scroll functions
[21:38] <mariogrip> Why does the fuu** adbd not starting when i add break to kernel or when it boots?... (help!!!)
[21:54] <chancho> Hey Guys, I just installed ubuntu-touch utopic and vivid using Multirom on my Nexus 5 (I know it's not supported, but wanted to give it a shot). Everything works great so far, but I just cannot use apt! Whenever i try to update it's database it faily with an 404 not found on ports.ubuntu.com in both(!) vivid and utopic, Is there something I can to about it or is it by design?
[22:01] <adrian47> How can i disable screen timeout at building process?
[22:04] <adrian47> or after install but before boot :)
[22:55] <AskUbuntu> Using both tabs and pagestack navigation in HTML5 app for Ubuntu Phone | http://askubuntu.com/q/587955