| knome | bluesabre, "Misc." is a crappy tab name fyi | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| elfy | knome btw - that final planet merge got done - so all finished now | 00:06 |
| knome | \o/ | 00:06 |
| elfy | telling me ... | 00:07 |
| elfy | I read all but 400 lines of that ;) | 00:08 |
| knome | hehe | 00:08 |
| knome | congrats | 00:08 |
| knome | i hope it was a good reading.... | 00:08 |
| elfy | awesome | 00:08 |
| elfy | but I'd only do it the once - no need to revisit :) | 00:08 |
| bluesabre | knome: not a project I created :) | 00:08 |
| knome | bluesabre, still.. | 00:09 |
| ochosi | elfy: just installed the latest update for indicator-sound, pavucontrol still opens... | 00:09 |
| ochosi | with 12.10.2+15.04.20150219.1-0ubuntu1 | 00:09 |
| bluesabre | knome: but yeah, didn't have enough time to tweak the interface | 00:10 |
| bluesabre | seeing as how we landed it mere hours before FF | 00:10 |
| bluesabre | :) | 00:10 |
| knome | ;) | 00:10 |
| elfy | ochosi: oh | 00:10 |
| elfy | really going to have to do that clean install ... | 00:10 |
| ochosi | did you accidentally uninstall pavucontrol maybe? :) | 00:11 |
| elfy | nope | 00:11 |
| elfy | apart from anything it opened before I updated :) | 00:11 |
| knome | bluesabre, define "User's" in multihead setup? | 00:11 |
| ochosi | Misc. is mostly a11y | 00:11 |
| * bluesabre shrugs | 00:12 | |
| * ochosi has no clue either | 00:12 | |
| ochosi | gotta love that | 00:12 |
| knome | "user is"? | 00:12 |
| knome | :P | 00:12 |
| bluesabre | Accepting string patches through the weekend for 1.1.1 | 00:13 |
| ochosi | elfy: so what version do you have? | 00:13 |
| elfy | change front page of x.org to point to trusty.2 ? | 00:13 |
| elfy | ochosi: 12.10.2+15.04.20150219.1-0ubuntu1 | 00:14 |
| elfy | same :( | 00:14 |
| ochosi | k | 00:14 |
| ochosi | so maybe do that clean install and then let's revisit this thing | 00:14 |
| elfy | knome: so shall I change front page ? | 00:14 |
| elfy | points at .1 currently | 00:14 |
| knome | elfy, sure | 00:14 |
| elfy | umm | 00:15 |
| elfy | broken it :( | 00:15 |
| elfy | sorry | 00:16 |
| knome | i KNEW it! | 00:16 |
| ochosi | lol, what's broken now? | 00:16 |
| knome | ochosi, our website frontpage | 00:16 |
| ochosi | elfy: so first you break indicator-sound and now this??! | 00:17 |
| ochosi | :D | 00:17 |
| elfy | ok - so why if I restore previous it's still :| | 00:17 |
| knome | elfy, release the lock, i'll fix it | 00:17 |
| elfy | should be released | 00:17 |
| knome | yep | 00:17 |
| elfy | then I would love to know how it broke :) | 00:17 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: quick question, is the latest greybird already uploaded? | 00:17 |
| knome | elfy, done | 00:18 |
| knome | elfy, the last "why" --> caching | 00:18 |
| elfy | ochosi: re clean install - yea - I'll do that tomorrow am | 00:18 |
| ochosi | elfy: just be a scientist and try again! | 00:18 |
| knome | elfy, the previous... you probably just closed a tag you shouldn't have | 00:18 |
| elfy | ochosi: the last time I was a scientist I spent 3 months analysing dirt for my dissertation - unsurprisingly - never again :D | 00:19 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i'm referring to the one with the sassy code-name... | 00:19 |
| ochosi | elfy: wow, that was a super-fast dissertation! | 00:19 |
| elfy | knome: I assumed so - but then it all just went blank in my head :D | 00:19 |
| * ochosi wonders why it takes him so long... | 00:19 | |
| knome | i'm sure elfy just acknowledged it was all just some crap | 00:20 |
| knome | see what i did there? | 00:20 |
| knome | :) | 00:20 |
| elfy | ochosi: I wish - that was just the bit in the lab and was just BSc too | 00:20 |
| elfy | knome: :) | 00:20 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: yes | 00:20 |
| ochosi | nice | 00:20 |
| ochosi | another workitem done then | 00:20 |
| bluesabre | !info shimmer-themes vivid | 00:20 |
| bluesabre | or something like that | 00:20 |
| ubottu | shimmer-themes (source: shimmer-themes): Gtk+ themes from Shimmer Project. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.4-0ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 2 kB, installed size 31 kB | 00:20 |
| ochosi | yeah, but that version doesn't tell me anything | 00:21 |
| ochosi | it doesn't reflect greybird's | 00:21 |
| bluesabre | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/s/shimmer-themes/shimmer-themes_1.9.4-0ubuntu1/changelog | 00:21 |
| ochosi | reading changelogs is booooring | 00:21 |
| bluesabre | x.x | 00:21 |
| Unit193 | It is? | 00:21 |
| elfy | hi PaulW2U - thanks for testing what you did :) | 00:23 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Do we want thunar .5? | 00:28 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: bugfixes are good I think | 00:29 |
| knome | bluesabre, ok, finnish done for lggs | 00:29 |
| Unit193 | NEWS indicates that's all it is. | 00:29 |
| bluesabre | ideally an easy package then | 00:29 |
| bluesabre | you want it? | 00:29 |
| knome | something else that needs translations? | 00:30 |
| Unit193 | Except, don't we have to list all LP bugs? :P | 00:30 |
| Unit193 | knome: My script! :P | 00:30 |
| * Unit193 hides. | 00:30 | |
| knome | Unit193, .po? | 00:30 |
| knome | Unit193, or .pot, or rosetta/transifex link | 00:30 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: I usually look around a little bit for obvious ones, then forget to include them | 00:31 |
| knome | bluesabre, any idea on translating ThisEntry for menulibre? | 00:31 |
| Unit193 | knome: Heh, honestly I was going to wait until I added 'forecasts' before pinging, but it's on transifex yes. I'll get the link. | 00:32 |
| bluesabre | knome: I had wanted to drop it, but menulibre development didn't make it this time around | 00:32 |
| knome | bluesabre, ok, i'll keep it untranslated | 00:32 |
| knome | it will just confuse users more if it's translated | 00:32 |
| knome | there isn't really a good translation for "Entry" as is, needs context | 00:33 |
| bluesabre | fun | 00:33 |
| Unit193 | * New upstream development bugfix release. a-ok? :P | 00:34 |
| bluesabre | bravo | 00:35 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes/Development | 00:37 |
| knome | should we and lggs there? | 00:37 |
| bluesabre | yes | 00:39 |
| knome | used by and essential for xubuntu? | 00:39 |
| bluesabre | yes | 00:40 |
| bluesabre | well, not essential, but now in the seed | 00:40 |
| bluesabre | ;) | 00:40 |
| knome | done | 00:41 |
| Unit193 | Essential == core? | 00:42 |
| * Unit193 hides. | 00:42 | |
| * knome shrugs | 00:42 | |
| * bluesabre sits | 00:42 | |
| * ochosi yawns | 00:42 | |
| * elfy belches | 00:43 | |
| * ochosi sneaks off to bed | 00:44 | |
| * knome trips ochosi | 00:45 | |
| * ochosi activates his spider-senses and doesn't fall! | 00:45 | |
| knome | so will you float all night? | 00:45 |
| knome | like a div? | 00:45 |
| knome | <: | 00:45 |
| * ochosi cuddles up in a web where he can't hear knome's lame webdev jokes | 00:46 | |
| elfy | night ochosi :) | 00:46 |
| knome | web... webdev... i see what you did there | 00:46 |
| bluesabre | more like | 00:50 |
| bluesabre | webdiv | 00:50 |
| bluesabre | <.< | 00:50 |
| bluesabre | >,> | 00:50 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: We still using mkdir -p m4 as the "canonical" fix to that problem? | 00:50 |
| knome | bluesabre, neither of those were valid tags... | 00:52 |
| elfy | picky | 00:53 |
| bluesabre | <div class="sean" style="display:none"> :-P </div> | 00:53 |
| knome | heh | 00:54 |
| knome | .sean { display: block !important; } | 00:54 |
| bluesabre | jerk | 00:54 |
| elfy | chicken | 00:54 |
| knome | beef | 00:54 |
| bluesabre | bok bok | 00:54 |
| knome | bluesabre, more seriously... do you think you would be up for creating a simple gui for sgt-puzzles, to avoid the huge list of items in the menu | 00:56 |
| knome | the gui would practically work as a launcher | 00:56 |
| elfy | after people have had a chance to decide if we even want that | 00:56 |
| elfy | :p | 00:56 |
| bluesabre | knome: yeah, I could probably do that at some point | 00:57 |
| knome | well, whether we want that or not... | 00:57 |
| knome | great :) | 00:57 |
| elfy | I actually think it would be a good choice seriously | 00:57 |
| knome | yep | 00:57 |
| knome | i have my favorites there too | 00:57 |
| elfy | lol | 00:57 |
| knome | and they would be easy enough to highlight on the installer slideshow | 00:57 |
| knome | even one per cycle... | 00:57 |
| elfy | going to be a long slideshow with one for the poll too :) | 00:58 |
| knome | we'll probably drop a few slides from the current ones, so... | 00:58 |
| elfy | talking of which - do you want to set some time aside for us to look at that? | 00:58 |
| knome | probably should set up a 3-way with slickymaster | 00:59 |
| knome | ;) | 00:59 |
| elfy | frankly I think that anything with a menu option should be polled | 00:59 |
| elfy | yea - probably would be best, do the whole kit and kaboodle in one shot | 00:59 |
| knome | a bit radical to my taste, but i see the point :D | 00:59 |
| elfy | heh | 01:00 |
| knome | but, let's wait until we are all around | 01:00 |
| knome | that seems to happen much lately | 01:00 |
| knome | we can even do an impromptu sprint | 01:00 |
| elfy | mmm | 01:00 |
| elfy | true enough | 01:01 |
| knome | and as always, i have nothing against if you and slimy decide to work on something | 01:01 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: yes, I think so | 01:01 |
| elfy | lol - so I thought the release shout had gone out - apparently no | 01:01 |
| knome | just let me know what kind of technical stuff you need :) | 01:01 |
| elfy | knome: yep | 01:01 |
| knome | elfy, oops. | 01:01 |
| knome | do we want to revert stuff? | 01:02 |
| elfy | no | 01:02 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: lp 1423407 is marked invalid, did you fully update and gather more info? :P | 01:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1423407 in quassel (Ubuntu) "quasselclient crashed with SIGSEGV on hyperlink hover" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423407 | 01:02 |
| knome | elfy, oki, good :) | 01:03 |
| elfy | knome: we just normally wait for -release to release | 01:03 |
| elfy | bit early this time :) | 01:03 |
| knome | talk about impatience ;)) | 01:03 |
| elfy | I know - some people :p | 01:03 |
| knome | true that | 01:04 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: awww | 01:09 |
| bluesabre | I'll update and crash it again | 01:09 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: did you say thunar was ready? | 01:09 |
| bluesabre | http://unit193.net/source/ ? | 01:10 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: https://sigma. | 01:21 |
| Unit193 | With lintian and buildlog. | 01:24 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: too many servers :P | 01:30 |
| Unit193 | Just two... | 01:30 |
| bluesabre | right | 01:31 |
| bluesabre | *two* many servers | 01:31 |
| Unit193 | Paha. | 01:31 |
| bluesabre | :P | 01:31 |
| Unit193 | Careful, you complain too much and I'll start uploading them on Loki and Ninthfloor too. :P | 01:31 |
| bluesabre | :D | 01:42 |
| bluesabre | step 1. ssh tunnel into this random server | 01:42 |
| bluesabre | :P | 01:42 |
| nerdistmonk | Did something change since a day ago? Can't run scripts from thunar now. | 06:56 |
| Unit193 | Thunar 1.6.5 was just uploaded. | 06:58 |
| nerdistmonk | All i know is i can't run .sh scripts now except through terminal | 06:58 |
| ochosi | nerdistmonk: yes | 06:58 |
| ochosi | that's an intentional change | 06:58 |
| nerdistmonk | great so all my desktop shortcuts are worthless then? | 06:59 |
| ochosi | if they're bash-scripts, then yes | 06:59 |
| nerdistmonk | wow. | 06:59 |
| ochosi | this is the corresponding bugreport in case you're interested to read it: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7596 | 07:00 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 7596 in general "add a way to *open* shell scripts instead of executing them" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 07:00 |
| ochosi | and then there's the longer version of that https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9934 | 07:01 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9934 in general "Interoperability problems with executable desktop files" [Normal,New] | 07:01 |
| Unit193 | 'desktop shortcuts', sounds like you're doing things quite oddly. | 07:01 |
| ochosi | +1 | 07:01 |
| ochosi | (hint: that's what .desktop files are for?) | 07:02 |
| nerdistmonk | How is it odd? i need xrandr to be called so it can change the resolution before executing the program, then i need it to change it back when done....my sh scripts were handling this nicely. | 07:02 |
| Unit193 | 'by default' also sounds like you can change it. | 07:02 |
| nerdistmonk | I don't see anyways to change it back | 07:02 |
| ochosi | yeah, but if you don't use a kb-shortcut to bind your script to, why not use a desktop file then? | 07:02 |
| nerdistmonk | because i got 1,200 programs and only 104 keys, why would i do that when i had something that worked fine for over 10 years? | 07:03 |
| ochosi | you've been doing this for over 10 years? | 07:04 |
| ochosi | also, your question indicates you haven't read the bugreports | 07:04 |
| nerdistmonk | making a desktop launcher to a .sh script? sure | 07:04 |
| nerdistmonk | these scripts do not need to be seen verbosely, so theres no reason not to. | 07:05 |
| ochosi | err, what? whatever. | 07:05 |
| nerdistmonk | so this is localized to thunar i take it? | 07:07 |
| nerdistmonk | ill just rip it out and go to something else then i guess. | 07:07 |
| nerdistmonk | i can understand why this change was made, but why remove user choice once again? | 07:08 |
| nerdistmonk | why not give me an option to keep the old behavior? | 07:08 |
| ochosi | erhm, once again? | 07:11 |
| ochosi | look, there are very easy workarounds, you can create desktop files that do *exactly* what your scripts did (if it's a single call, you can place it in the desktop file directly, if it's more, call the script). this is to protect users who don't know what they're doing | 07:15 |
| ochosi | shell scripts don't provide any visual feedback and imo they shouldn't be used as "launchers" | 07:15 |
| ochosi | since you seemingly *know* what you're doing, you can easily use the workaround indicated above without any trouble | 07:16 |
| ochosi | options should only be added where they make sense, otherwise we end up with too many of them | 07:16 |
| ochosi | </discussion> | 07:16 |
| nerdistmonk | it appears my desktop icons still work, im just going to take thunar out and go to pcmanfm | 07:17 |
| nerdistmonk | anyways as you said /discussion so i will move on | 07:18 |
| Unit193 | nerdistmonk: If you plan to still use xfdesktop4, you should call pcmanfm with --no-desktop, if you plan to use pcmanfm as the desktop, you can still use thunar just not xfdesktop. | 07:21 |
| nerdistmonk | i was going to use it as my default file manager and uninstall thunar completely | 07:22 |
| Unit193 | pcmanfm == xfdesktop4 and thunar by default. | 07:22 |
| nerdistmonk | hmmm seems like its gonna be best to simply go to lxde | 07:24 |
| * Unit193 rolls eyes. | 07:26 | |
| ochosi | yeah, maybe that's best | 07:26 |
| nerdistmonk | you can roll your eyes unit but pcmanfm needs lx libraries, if im gonna have a chunk of lxde running may as well just use it all. | 07:27 |
| nerdistmonk | especially since lxde is going to QT whereas xfce is going gtk3 | 07:28 |
| nerdistmonk | that would be an interesting medley | 07:28 |
| nerdistmonk | only thing that makes me sad is not having my Mac OS 9 platinum theme that xfce comes with. | 07:29 |
| Unit193 | Right then, I suppose we are done here. Have fun. | 07:29 |
| nerdistmonk | well thanks for at least letting me know that thunar wasn't bugging out on me. | 07:32 |
| ochosi | np | 07:32 |
| nerdistmonk | now to quietly wait and see if they catch/fix the nvidia window border bug | 07:32 |
| nerdistmonk | (its baaaccckkk) | 07:33 |
| nerdistmonk | minimize a window then bring it back up and the window border is gone on the sides/bottom, old bug from like 3 years ago, seems to have come back for reasons unknown. | 07:34 |
| nerdistmonk | Haha | 07:37 |
| nerdistmonk | hows that for effort | 07:37 |
| nerdistmonk | fixed my thunar problem | 07:37 |
| nerdistmonk | simply selected "open with other application", then typed in a custom command "sh" | 07:37 |
| nerdistmonk | so now it opens all .sh files with sh. | 07:38 |
| nerdistmonk | thanks for your time guys, sorry for pestering you all. | 07:45 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Meh, too late for a new mousepad? FFe it? :P | 07:45 |
| brainvvash | elfy, indicator-sound > sound settings still open pavucontrol here | 08:46 |
| brainvvash | got a newer version: 12.10.2+15.04.20150219.1-0ubuntu1 | 08:47 |
| brainvvash | oh nvm, you have the same version installed | 08:48 |
| Akusari | good morning :-) | 09:05 |
| elfy | ochosi: clean install - ind-sound working again | 09:39 |
| elfy | we can put man on the moon, but not have numlock believe me when I say I want it on at the login screen | 10:58 |
| ochosi | elfy: always good when a bug actually isnt one | 11:11 |
| elfy | yep | 11:11 |
| elfy | though I'm still hating on pavu atm :D | 11:12 |
| elfy | last week I could set a master vol in output devices, then vol control increased/decreased playback vol | 11:13 |
| elfy | today - both levels change | 11:13 |
| brainvvash | could be pulseaudio which has been updated from v4 to v6 | 11:14 |
| elfy | does it come from gnome - removing options would be par for the course ... :) | 11:14 |
| ochosi | pavucontrol has been rather unmaintained for a while now | 11:15 |
| ochosi | luckily it's still working, cause there really isn't any DE-agnostic alternative afaik | 11:15 |
| elfy | yea | 11:15 |
| elfy | yep | 11:15 |
| elfy | I guess wanting to control volumes 3 ways is probably a bit over the top anyway :D | 11:16 |
| ochosi | at some point i considered forking pavucontrol and improving it | 11:16 |
| ochosi | but it would've been quite a bit of work | 11:16 |
| elfy | did you consider it for very long :) | 11:16 |
| ochosi | too many projects already | 11:16 |
| elfy | :) | 11:16 |
| brainvvash | why not contribute directly to pavucontrol? | 11:17 |
| ochosi | because there are no active maintainers afaik | 11:17 |
| ochosi | anyway, no need to discuss this, i'm not doing it anyway | 11:18 |
| brainvvash | they seems to accept patches https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88813 | 11:22 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 88813 in pavucontrol "pavucontrol crashes on startup, if icon loading fails" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 11:22 |
| brainvvash | oh, I meant he accepts patches, the ubuntu audio dev and one of the pulseaudio maintainers | 11:26 |
| brainvvash | ochosi, lazy loading prevents tab switching in the appearance window | 11:27 |
| ochosi | in what case? | 11:28 |
| ochosi | i mean i can't reproduce that | 11:28 |
| brainvvash | until it's done loading everything I mean | 11:29 |
| brainvvash | requirement: slow pc | 11:29 |
| ochosi | right, i guess that sounds like it's a bit against the intention of lazy loading | 11:29 |
| ochosi | is any interaction blocked? even with the currently open tab? | 11:30 |
| ochosi | or only tab switches | 11:30 |
| brainvvash | only tab switching and theme selection, but only for like 2 seconds, longer on first launch | 11:32 |
| brainvvash | I don't know if lazy loading could allow these interactions | 11:32 |
| brainvvash | or maybe something else is wrong here | 11:33 |
| ochosi | hm, i dunno, maybe tab-switching's interaction is a bit different from just pushing some other button | 11:33 |
| brainvvash | not worth caring about this, it's just a small delay :) | 11:34 |
| brainvvash | it's not like the user opens the appearance window on a daily base | 11:34 |
| ochosi | yeah | 11:35 |
| ochosi | my thoughts exactly | 11:35 |
| ochosi | at least there is no stalling with showing the dialog | 11:35 |
| brainvvash | wasn't "session and startup" always embedded into the settings manager? | 11:39 |
| ochosi | it used to be, it isn't anymore? | 11:40 |
| ochosi | still is here | 11:40 |
| brainvvash | not here | 11:40 |
| ochosi | did you compile it yourself? | 11:41 |
| brainvvash | also keyboard and mouse settings are not anymore | 11:41 |
| brainvvash | ok... woot | 11:41 |
| brainvvash | I triggered some bug | 11:41 |
| ochosi | maybe you built something yourself without pluggable support | 11:42 |
| brainvvash | none of dialogs are embedded | 11:42 |
| ochosi | sounds like xfce4-settings without plug support | 11:42 |
| brainvvash | nope, open lightdm gtk greeter settings and close the password dialog without providing a password | 11:43 |
| brainvvash | to trigger the bug | 11:43 |
| brainvvash | minor bug though | 11:44 |
| ochosi | right, pkexec thingy probably | 11:44 |
| ochosi | not sure xfsettings can do anything about that | 11:44 |
| ochosi | yeah, closing and reopening fixes the embedding | 11:45 |
| brainvvash | yes :) | 11:45 |
| ochosi | brainvvash: want to lend a hand? | 11:58 |
| brainvvash | ochosi, with testing? | 12:05 |
| ochosi | well, sorting out this mess of a bugreport would really help... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-volumed/+bug/1347272 | 12:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1347272 in xfce4-volumed (Ubuntu) "Several XFCE applications appear unresponsive after communicating with a daemon" [High,Triaged] | 12:06 |
| ochosi | checking which apps are really still affected etc | 12:06 |
| brainvvash | how can it be tested? I could check code-wise | 12:07 |
| ochosi | i'd say start codewise | 12:09 |
| ochosi | i'm also a bit lost as to how it could be tested | 12:09 |
| ochosi | thing is, i'm working on another bug/patch atm | 12:10 |
| ochosi | but i'd like us to tackle this one asap | 12:10 |
| ochosi | (ideally we can just close it) | 12:10 |
| Akusari | hmm, this should be a task for xfce devs and nobody else | 12:22 |
| elfy | Akusari: you know that bunches of people in this channel actually are that? | 12:23 |
| bluesabre | Open source community gives and gives back | 12:23 |
| elfy | hey bluesabre !!! | 12:23 |
| bluesabre | heya elfy | 12:23 |
| bluesabre | and what elfy said | 12:23 |
| ochosi | Akusari: this is a ubuntu-specific bug | 12:24 |
| bluesabre | and what ochosi said | 12:25 |
| bluesabre | probably moreso that | 12:25 |
| Akusari | sure, i know that, but i'm a experince dev in gnu projects and other open source projects. So i thing *personal* thats a "design concept" bug and no real app bug | 12:25 |
| Akusari | i think | 12:25 |
| ochosi | feel free to help us resolve the bugreport | 12:26 |
| ochosi | tbh i don't see any real bugs/problems with these apps, so foremostly i wanna get this bugreport sorted | 12:27 |
| Akusari | and design concept things should only be done by original developers | 12:27 |
| Akusari | i agree with ochosi in this case :) | 12:29 |
| Akusari | don't understand me wrong, it just my _personal_ private view of course | 12:30 |
| ochosi | no worries | 12:31 |
| Akusari | Well, forks or threads models have a deep impact of the whole app or project. Just for example if you plan to change this part to a thread pool manage base there are a lot of depencies. I don't looked at the code, so this is only theoretical thought. | 12:42 |
| ochosi | practical thought: lunchtime | 12:44 |
| ochosi | bbl | 12:44 |
| Akusari | hehe :) | 12:44 |
| Akusari | bluesabre: Yes, you're right of course :-) And thats how it works :-) | 12:46 |
| jjfrv8 | elfy, looks like we're back to just the 32-bit version having the missing try/install problem today. | 13:13 |
| elfy | jjfrv8: mmm - I did have a quick word re vbox - not awfully useful | 13:17 |
| elfy | was a bit mmm vbox - so does it work in kvm - vbox is rubbish ... | 13:18 |
| jjfrv8 | bummer | 13:18 |
| elfy | a bit | 13:19 |
| elfy | kvm doesn't give the try/install at all - just sits at the start menu waiting for you to hit try or install :) | 13:20 |
| jjfrv8 | hmm | 13:20 |
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| Akusari | hello, i looked a little bit deeper into this case: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-volumed/+bug/1347272 | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1347272 in xfce4-volumed (Ubuntu) "Several XFCE applications appear unresponsive after communicating with a daemon" [High,Triaged] | 16:12 |
| Akusari | that's a real mess, i'm just inspecting an example module unity-gtk-module-0.0.0+14.04.20141212 . It looks really ugly what they doing there. I need more time and continue later on | 16:15 |
| elfy | sorted numlock \o/ just put in back where I put it originally, must have ended up commented out amongst all the stuff going on last week | 17:13 |
| elfy | that said - shouldn't have to edit system files to make it work | 17:13 |
| ochosi | hehe | 17:14 |
| ochosi | so no bug there again? | 17:14 |
| elfy | well | 17:15 |
| elfy | you could call it a bug | 17:15 |
| elfy | bios says numlock on, desktop says numlock on, lightdm says don't be silly | 17:15 |
| elfy | :) | 17:15 |
| ochosi | hehe | 17:16 |
| ochosi | well then don't be silly! | 17:16 |
| elfy | got mediaserver thing working properly now too :) went for a different one - easy as eating cake ... | 17:17 |
| ochosi | yay | 17:17 |
| elfy | http://www.universalmediaserver.com/ instead of mediatomb | 17:18 |
| ochosi | how is it better (other than working)? | 17:18 |
| ochosi | and is it packaged? | 17:18 |
| elfy | for one thing - changed one option, rather than mucking about with enabling things in a conf file | 17:18 |
| elfy | java ... | 17:19 |
| Akusari | hi :-) I'm out of the "Several XFCE applications..." bug. It's not my part to say something about canonical work with unity gtk modules. It is as it is :-) I have just one suggestion: Keep xubuntu unity free (packages based) :-) | 17:22 |
| elfy | going to try and get some headway on this virtual install issue with 32bit | 17:26 |
| Akusari | i'm sorry, i'm not easy , eh? ;-) | 17:27 |
| elfy | wut? | 17:27 |
| Akusari | well, i'm also writing what i'm thinking and sometimes it would be better doing a long think and not writing down everything comes in my mind :-) | 17:29 |
| elfy | ;) | 17:30 |
| elfy | you'd really not want me doing that in a logged channel | 17:30 |
| Akusari | lol - right :-P | 17:30 |
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| === CaptainLinkHeart is now known as drc | ||
| elfy | ochosi: couple of nice chaps having a look at this 32bit vb thing - cyphermox and infinity | 19:02 |
| ochosi | cool | 19:02 |
| elfy | seems to be hidden somehow | 19:02 |
| elfy | if you boot it then up or down arrow to change language - it shows up | 19:02 |
| ochosi | weird | 19:03 |
| elfy | jjfrv8: not sure if you read scrollback when you're not pinged, but re 32bit image you can work it to try the rest of what's in the image | 20:19 |
| elfy | when you've got the empty screen up or down, changes the language and the dialogue appears | 20:21 |
| knome | elfy, do you have final numbers on beta testing activity per person? | 20:53 |
| knome | elfy, see where i'm getting? | 20:53 |
| elfy | knome: not really seeing where you getting at all tbh, if I could give you those figures - I will also be winning the lottery tonight and tomorrow, possibly some results on football bets too :p | 20:57 |
| elfy | if however you mean the trusty thing from yesterday yea - I got those :D | 20:58 |
| knome | oh right, we didn't do qa incentive for 14.04.2... | 20:58 |
| elfy | no | 20:59 |
| * knome gets back to cave | 20:59 | |
| knome | bbiab | 20:59 |
| elfy | but those numbers will be in February's :) | 20:59 |
| elfy | tbh I didn't give trusty .2 a thought until 2 weeks ago ... | 20:59 |
| elfy | knome: actually - if you've got a minute or 3 | 21:00 |
| elfy | ochosi knome - re QA incentive - I've got sorted figures locally, but if I don't wake up in the morning someone has to redo all of that | 21:06 |
| elfy | what I was pondering was making a google sheet - sharing the link to team, but making it editable only by ochosi and me | 21:06 |
| elfy | rather - those in team that have an interest | 21:06 |
| elfy | and aren't going to be telling me it's not up to date :p | 21:07 |
| knome | elfy, mm... works for me | 21:14 |
| ochosi | elfy: hmm, only if you promise to wake up in the morning! | 21:19 |
| elfy | ha :) | 21:19 |
| elfy | ochosi: do you have a gmail ? | 21:20 |
| ochosi | i do | 21:20 |
| elfy | knome: same | 21:20 |
| ochosi | firstname.surname@gmail.com | 21:20 |
| elfy | okey doke - as long as I can do that with an English keyboard :p | 21:21 |
| ochosi | hah yeah, it's €€€.€€€@gmail.com | 21:22 |
| ochosi | oh wait, you don't have that on your keyboard... | 21:22 |
| elfy | LOL | 21:22 |
| knome | elfy, pasi@shimmerproject.org | 21:22 |
| elfy | ochosi: yea I do have € | 21:23 |
| knome | elfy, do you have an Œ? | 21:23 |
| elfy | but that's just so last year ... or will be | 21:23 |
| elfy | knome: no | 21:23 |
| elfy | :D | 21:23 |
| knome | ;) | 21:23 |
| knome | do you have those elliptical circles then? | 21:23 |
| elfy | squares? | 21:24 |
| elfy | yep | 21:24 |
| ochosi | heh | 21:24 |
| Unit193 | ᗣ ᗣ ᗣ ᗧ * * * * * * | 21:26 |
| ochosi | wat, cookies? | 21:26 |
| knome | i see missing unicode characters :) | 21:26 |
| elfy | knome: sent to you | 21:27 |
| knome | elfy, ta | 21:27 |
| brainvvash | ochosi, wow, evince already patched and available in -proposed.. that was fast | 21:28 |
| knome | elfy, view only ;( | 21:28 |
| elfy | yep | 21:28 |
| knome | works for me | 21:28 |
| elfy | but making it editable only by ochosi and me | 21:28 |
| elfy | I did say that :) | 21:29 |
| knome | yes | 21:29 |
| elfy | just so people can see | 21:29 |
| elfy | if you really want more make up a reason :D | 21:30 |
| knome | nah | 21:30 |
| knome | i'm fine | 21:30 |
| elfy | ok | 21:30 |
| elfy | I just wanted that others could see it rather than just me | 21:30 |
| knome | heh, yeah | 21:30 |
| knome | good to share stuff | 21:30 |
| elfy | and re the original proposal - ochosi needs to ack who gets the snail mail too - so only right he can edit | 21:31 |
| knome | and pleia2 needs to send stuff | 21:31 |
| knome | and i need to prepare the certificates if we want them | 21:32 |
| elfy | yep | 21:32 |
| knome | or i can prepare it so that pleia2 might be able to do them on request | 21:32 |
| knome | well, when needed at least :P | 21:32 |
| elfy | what I'll do is mail [team] - them that would like to have the link can mail me back | 21:32 |
| elfy | well | 21:32 |
| elfy | given we're trying to push it - would be nice to think we all would be interested in 'what's going on' if nothing else :) | 21:33 |
| brainvvash | ochosi, even in -release now, but does it actually work for you? | 21:33 |
| elfy | knome: even gave it a bit of talking up in -meeting the other day | 21:34 |
| brainvvash | ochosi, I maximized the evince window and there is no title bar | 21:34 |
| elfy | lubuntu are handing out t-shirts ... | 21:34 |
| knome | heh | 21:35 |
| elfy | brainvvash: I see that evince issue properly now - andf F11 doesn't undo full screen 'apparently' drag it and it goes back to previous size | 21:36 |
| elfy | and awesomely cyphermox is assigned to the odd vbox thing :) | 21:37 |
| elfy | ty cyphermox :) | 21:37 |
| brainvvash | elfy, a new version was released to fix the evince issue, like an hour ago. did you already install 3.14.1-0ubuntu4? | 21:39 |
| elfy | brainvvash: doubtful | 21:39 |
| elfy | clean install - I've updated a bunch of times during the day - but not for a few hours now | 21:39 |
| elfy | and the repos were a whole lot faster then too ... | 21:41 |
| elfy | brainvvash: what I see now is , F11 fullscreens and undoes that - but title bar missing still | 21:45 |
| brainvvash | bug 1422354 | 21:47 |
| ubottu | bug 1422354 in Evince "Show traditional titlebar when maximized with no GtkHeaderBar present" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1422354 | 21:47 |
| brainvvash | missing here too | 21:47 |
| ochosi | +1 | 21:49 |
| Unit193 | New xfdash and all, uplodaded. | 21:49 |
| cyphermox | elfy: I think I have a fix, I'll upload shortly | 21:52 |
| elfy | Unit193: I've kind of been playing with that - shame it doesn't timeout | 21:52 |
| elfy | cyphermox: awesome :) | 21:53 |
| Unit193 | elfy: As in, open it and after a certain time it'll close by itself? https://github.com/gmc-holle/xfdashboard/issues ? | 21:54 |
| jjfrv8 | elfy, I've tried that vbox workaround but only got it to work once, and now can't reproduce it. | 21:56 |
| elfy | yea as in that | 21:56 |
| jjfrv8 | is it moot now, though | 21:57 |
| elfy | Unit193: ^^ | 21:57 |
| elfy | jjfrv8: we has hope :) | 21:57 |
| Unit193 | Aha. | 21:57 |
| elfy | Unit193: but doesn't appear to be an issue atm - shall I do one | 21:57 |
| Unit193 | Up to you, if you want it ask. From what I've seen he's pretty receptive. | 21:58 |
| elfy | mmm | 22:01 |
| elfy | not sure that I'd use it enough in future to ask for something I might not see :) | 22:01 |
| ochosi | brainvvash: no clue why the patch isn't working, the changelog indicates it has been applied | 22:04 |
| ochosi | so does the package's diff | 22:07 |
| brainvvash | yes, it's strange | 22:09 |
| brainvvash | I've tested my patch 2 days ago, and it worked | 22:09 |
| elfy | hard for me to tell - I've had all sorts of oddness for days :p | 22:19 |
| elfy | brainvvash: I've now at least got a normalish install if you want someone to test anything re this | 22:22 |
| elfy | nice little disk space usage bar turned up in thunar :) | 23:42 |
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