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elfyslickymaster jjfrv8 - fix landed for that 32 vbox issue, hopefully we'll see that in tomorrow's daily00:02
jjfrv8cool. might have time to give it a spin before I head out into the snow.00:05
Unit193andrzejr: Your libpulseaudio_plugin_la_LIBADD seems to be missing -lm ?02:49
Unit193evince (3.14.1-0ubuntu4) was uploaded, fixing LP: #142235408:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1422354 in Evince "Show traditional titlebar when maximized with no GtkHeaderBar present" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142235408:43
brainvvashUnit193, according to the last bug comment, it does not fix the issue08:44
Unit193Hah, so it doesn't. :D08:45
brainvvashI've only tested my patch, and it worked08:46
brainvvashUnit193, can you find any packaging error?08:58
brainvvashor maybe upload a version with my patch to some ppa08:59
ochosiUnit193: andrzejr is away for the next two weeks, so...09:13
ochosiand yeah, evince is still broken09:13
brainvvashochosi, did you test the patch?09:15
ochosibrainvvash/brainwash: ofc, i've built the upstream 3.14.1 though12:37
ochosiwith that it does work12:37
ochosiapplied the other window-border patch that ubuntu is carrying and my patch12:37
ochosiso not really sure why it wouldn't work in ubuntu12:38
ochosiif you have time to test it with the ubuntu version, that'd be great12:38
brainvvashwith the ubuntu version? isn't that basically the new package release?12:40
ochosiwell, take the previous version, apply the patch by hand, rebuild the package and try that12:41
ochosithen we'd know it's some sort of packaging problem12:41
brainvvashochosi, packaging problem, the patch was not added to debian/series12:47
* ochosi facepalms12:47
ochosiok, i guess we either report a new bug or reopen this one and assign it to Laney12:47
ochosii'll be away from tomorrow till thu, so the earliest i can follow up on this is friday12:48
brainvvashnew bug I guess12:48
ochosiideally just ping him in #u-desktop about it12:48
brainvvashI was about to say that you should ping him (now)12:48
brainvvash:D12:48
ochosiwell he's not around now12:49
ochosibut i can do that when we have the new bugreport12:49
brainvvashmaybe someone else can fix it, well, every ubuntu dev should be able to12:51
ochosinah, let's just stick to Laney12:56
brainvvashok12:56
ochosihe's a nice guy and quite helpful12:56
ochosialso, he's the one who messed up ;)12:57
brainvvashbug 142418012:59
ubottubug 1424180 in evince (Ubuntu) "New patch in 3.14.1-0ubuntu4 not added to debian/patches/series" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142418012:59
ochosiok, i consider that taken care of, sort of13:02
ochosiin -0ubuntu513:02
brainvvashyep13:03
ochosibrainvvash: i vaguely remember UBUNTU_MENUPROXY not being set anymore, any recollection of that?13:09
ochosi(at least here in vivid it doesn't seem to be set anyway)13:10
ochosimy conclusion would be that all these bugs are basically fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-volumed/+bug/134727213:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1347272 in xfce4-volumed (Ubuntu) "Several XFCE applications appear unresponsive after communicating with a daemon" [High,Triaged]13:11
ochosisince that was the troublemaker (according to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-volumed/+bug/1314782)13:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1347272 in xfce4-volumed (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1314782 Several XFCE applications appear unresponsive after communicating with a daemon" [High,Triaged]13:11
ochosibluesabre: any idea about this ^ ?13:11
bluesabreochosi: as far I know, those were all fixed13:12
brainvvashUBUNTU_MENUPROX fixed in trusty + utopic13:12
brainvvashbug 130765713:12
ubottubug 1307657 in unity-gtk-module (Ubuntu Utopic) "[SRU] UBUNTU_MENUPROXY should not be set in Xfce" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130765713:12
ochosik13:12
ochosiin that case we should just mark that whole damn thing fixed with a reference to that SRU13:12
ochosibrainvvash: care to do the honours? ^13:13
bluesabrexfce apps were patched to fix it, and unity-gtk-module was patched for good measure13:13
brainvvashwhat about the upstream reports?13:13
ochosii'll close those i guess13:13
ochosialthough i guess finding a commit for each of those would be nice...13:13
brainvvashthere are also other gtk modules like the unity scrollbars which could trigger the bug13:14
brainvvashit should be fixed in appfinder, because it was ported to gdbus and somehow (or because of that) does not trigger the bug anymore13:15
brainvvashlet me try to find some comment13:15
brainvvashhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-appfinder/+bug/1048805/comments/1513:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1347272 in xfce4-volumed (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1048805 Several XFCE applications appear unresponsive after communicating with a daemon" [High,Triaged]13:16
ochosiyeah, the commit for porting to gdbus is this one: 4a065a10945c72c985e254ff1ef13df188f3e11e13:16
brainvvashcomment 1513:16
brainvvashso it's resolved unless proven otherwise13:17
brainvvashwas there even a new appfinder release after that git commit?13:17
ochosiyes13:17
brainvvashok13:17
ochosi4.11.013:17
ochosiok, next up thunar13:18
brainvvashwas thunar even affected or just added to the list, because it creates a daemon process too?13:20
ochosii don't know tbh13:20
brainvvashI'd think that thunar uses gdbus too13:21
ochosiit definitely sets up the daemon mode after init13:22
ochosiso i'll mark this as invalid13:23
brainvvashok13:23
jjfrv8elfy, the good news is we've gained the try/install buttons; the bad news, we've lost the restart button at the end of an install :(13:30
jjfrv8that's for the 32-bit. haven't had a chance to try the 64 and probably won't until later today.13:32
jjfrv8bbl13:36
brainvvashochosi, what about https://code.launchpad.net/~a-j-buxton/xfce4-volumed-pulse/fork-before-gtk-init ?13:38
brainvvashcan anyone merge that?13:38
brainvvashbluesabre, ^ :D13:38
bluesabre>.>13:39
bluesabreyes, will do that this morning13:40
brainvvashthanks13:40
brainvvashthere is also another pending patch bug 132673313:41
ubottubug 1326733 in xfce4-volumed-pulse "Show in full-screen mode (patch included!)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132673313:41
brainvvashbut maybe it's a won't fix, dunno13:41
bluesabreyeah, that sounds undesirable13:42
ochosibluesabre: i guess none of us has pushrights to volumed-pulse13:43
ochosiso we can prolly only add it as a patch to the package, right?13:43
brainvvashoh ochosi, you've already marked volumed-pulse as fixed, before even fixing it :D13:43
ochosiideally this should just be merged into upstream and made a build-option13:43
ochosibrainvvash: it's fixed via UBUNTU_MENUPROXY13:44
ochosiso whatever13:44
ochosithat bugreport was just not useful anyway, far too big13:44
brainvvashyea, especially because every package was also nominated for SRU -> additional clutter13:45
ochosiif the pulseaudio plugin progresses a little more, we might just replace volumed-pulse with it13:45
ochosi(well, and indicator-sound)13:45
bluesabreochosi: get it to mostly feature parity :)13:47
ochosii guess if we could motivate matias to join in, that wouldn't be too hard13:49
ochosihe has already written much of the mpris stuff13:49
ochosiit's in the soundmenu plugin13:49
ochosibbabl13:50
bluesabreseeya13:53
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elfyjjfrv8: mmm - the text is bit mixed up, but I can see the line to press enter in both 32 and 64bit16:10
slickymasterthanks for the heads up on the 32 bit images, e16:46
slickymasterelfy even16:46
slickymasterI'll try some tests next Monday16:46
elfycheers :)16:46
slickymasterelfy. knome, yeah, we should set some time aside to look at/finish the slideshow17:01
slickymasterbut not a three way as knome's suggestion :P17:02
slickymasterway many surreptitious readings on that 17:02
elfyslickymaster: :)17:04
bluesabreknome only meant one17:04
bluesabreand we know which one17:04
elfylol17:04
bluesabreand its not appropriate for this channel17:04
bluesabre:P17:04
elfyha 17:04
elfyslickymaster: basically we'd need to get a suitable poll set that we can run for a cycle - then make sure necessary is on a link17:05
elfyalso - bluesabre slickymaster and Unit193 got mail re the QA thing17:06
elfyand everyone (incvluding knome ) can comment there - just still XPL and QA lead can edit17:06
bluesabreelfy: got it17:07
elfycool17:10
slickymasteryeah elfy , saw the mail but haven't saw the soreadsheet yet17:11
slickymasterspreadsheet even17:11
elfyand obviously it's always going to be a wip 17:11
slickymasterthat's just images status, in the spreadsheet, right?17:15
elfyslickymaster: just straight count 17:16
slickymasterI'm assuming that those values are pulled directly out of the tracker17:17
slickymasteror am I wrong?17:17
slickymasterelfy, those stats are somewhat different from the ones in the tracker17:19
slickymasterfrom the tracker: Vivid Daily (Testing): slickymaster: 3317:19
slickymasternevermind; i saw now that you one add values until January 31st17:20
elfy:)17:20
Unit193Got it too, yep.18:10
ochosibluesabre: should we do a release/upload of x-d-s at some point soonish?18:55
ochosithere are still some unreleased fixes iirc18:55
Unit193There are, I done did them.18:55
bluesabreoh19:01
* bluesabre takes a look19:02
ochosialso, this one is a wontfix imo19:03
ochosiunless it's also changed upstream19:03
ochosihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/130105619:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1301056 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Session name has "Session"" [Wishlist,Confirmed]19:03
ochosiUnit193, bluesabre ^19:03
elfyUnit193: ack that19:03
bluesabreochosi: I'd agree, thats a wontfix19:05
bluesabrebug I'm not a bug admin19:05
ochosiuseless string change, breaks translations, useless delta19:05
bluesabreanything else you guys want in -default-settings before I push?19:05
ochosielfy: you can haz bug-admin?19:05
Unit193Discussed that one a couple days ago.19:05
elfyochosi: can I? 19:06
ochosiyeah, that's the question19:06
ochosiif you can, please mark the above linked bugreport as wontfix ;)19:06
elfyoic - no I can't - not got bug-admin19:07
ochosihm, anyone in team?19:07
elfyslickymaster I think for one19:07
bluesabrebrainvvash, knome, I think19:08
brainvvashnegative19:08
elfyodd19:08
elfyI Can mark as Opinion19:08
bluesabresame, but can't kill it19:09
brainvvashmark as invalid :>19:09
elfyyea - but probably best not to wildly change status :)19:11
brainvvashbluesabre, and bug 1033174 ?19:11
ubottubug 1033174 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Improvement in the default keyboard shortcuts (lock screen and shutdown menu)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103317419:11
brainvvashthis was added upstream "Add <Ctrl><Alt>l shortcut for screen locking (xflock4)"19:12
brainvvashcurrently we only have <super>l in xubuntu I think19:13
Unit193Ctrl+Alt+Del, to confuse all those windows users.19:13
elfy:p19:14
ochosihehe19:14
bluesabremakes it easy to remember though19:14
bluesabre"I remember how to lock my xubuntu pc!"19:15
ochosinot sure we need yet another shortcut tbh, it's easy enough for ppl to configure their own19:15
bluesabre"oh... oh no... the screen is black"19:15
brainvvashwe have <ctrl><alt>t AND <super>t for xfce4-terminal19:16
elfyisn't that the lock shortcut anyway?19:16
ochosiif you others agree it's worthwile, i don't care enough to oppose19:16
brainvvashI just want to close the report :)19:16
brainvvashno need to keep it open any longer19:16
bluesabrectrl+alt+del is the lock shortcut19:16
bluesabrethat bug report wants it to be shutdown menu19:17
elfybluesabre: mmm not here in this brand new install it isn't19:17
bluesabrelet's not change a shortcut we've used for years :D19:17
bluesabreorly19:17
elfyand I've not had time to break that19:17
brainvvashwhat does it do?19:18
elfyhang on 19:18
elfyxfloc4 - shortcuts, ctrl+alt+del and also ctrl+alt+l 19:18
brainvvashbluesabre, the thing is, if you can use <Ctrl><Alt>l in default Xfce, maybe it should also trigger the lock screen in xubuntu19:19
elfysigh19:19
elfyit does19:19
bluesabrethen we can mark it as fixed with a comment that ctrl-alt-del will not be changed19:21
elfyhttp://i.imgur.com/aQWV4fc.png19:21
brainvvashdid you start the normal Xfce session?19:21
elfyapart from anything else - reading make it for Windows users immediately makes me think Wont Fix19:22
elfybrainvvash: why would I do that - I run Xubuntu19:22
bluesabreheh19:22
brainvvashmmh, i have only one shortcut for xflock419:23
brainvvashthe -del one19:23
elfyin vivid?19:23
brainvvashyes19:23
brainvvashlet me start the quest session19:24
bluesabrejust verified in guest session here19:24
elfythis is a clean clean install from yesterday19:24
elfybluesabre: verified both? 19:25
bluesabreyes19:25
* elfy hopes this isn't broken already ... 19:25
elfyoh good :D19:25
bluesabreL, Del19:25
brainvvashyeah, ctrl+alt-l and ctrl+alt+del in guest session19:26
elfybluesabre: cool :)19:26
brainvvashwasn't super+l used at some point?19:26
brainvvashmaybe I'm mixing up things19:26
elfythis position of indicator menu's when panel is at bottom really is a bit of a pain you know19:26
ochosiwhat, are you gonna report a bug now that "Super+L" isn't a shortcut for locking?19:26
ochosielfy: yeah, unfortunate gtk3 bug :/19:27
brainvvashi want to close the mentioned one19:27
elfybrainvvash: this is why I'm glad I sed release/dev on the sources list the day after release :p19:27
ochosii guess this will (have to) improve when the panel is gtk319:27
elfybrainvvash: doing something now19:28
bluesabrebrainvvash: closed it19:29
brainvvashbluesabre, thanks19:29
elfyhah19:30
ochosibluesabre: we should really apply for bugsquad...19:30
elfybiposting :D19:30
bluesabreochosi: probably should :)19:30
* elfy won't 19:31
elfyhave you seen the stupid wiki's they expect people to read for free ... 19:31
elfyhere you are - 10k words - easy :p19:32
ochosi:/19:32
ochosiwe have to ask knome how he did it19:32
ochosiprolly pulled some strings ;)19:32
bluesabreelfy: sounds like some xfce bugs19:33
elfychanged the wiki so it was only 10k words probably :D19:33
elfybluesabre: :)19:33
ochosibluesabre: whenever you release x-d-s, please mark this one as fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/139680419:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1396804 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Name For Thunar Settings Launcher Is Unclear (thunar-settings.desktop)" [Low,Fix committed]19:55
bluesabreochosi: too slow!19:55
bluesabreoh wait19:55
bluesabreyup19:56
bluesabrehttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/head:/debian/changelog19:56
ochosik, fix released then ;)19:56
bluesabreoh wait19:56
bluesabreyou don't read those19:56
bluesabrehttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/head:/debian/changelog#L919:56
bluesabretheres the exact line19:56
bluesabre:P19:56
elfyI see file manager and also a command from where I've pkexec'd in al;t+f219:56
elfybut you already know that's fixed ... 19:56
bluesabreI just now uploaded x-d-s19:57
bluesabreso it won't appear for a few hours19:57
bluesabre(15.04.3)19:57
elfybluesabre: I don't see 2 entries here19:57
bluesabreelfy: you have -staging installed?19:58
bluesabrexubuntu-default-settings builds daily there, so you'd have the fix already19:59
elfybluesabre: oh yea ... 19:59
elfy:)19:59
elfybluesabre:  the proposed fix for that 2 thunar's works :D20:00
bluesabre:D20:01
Unit193ochosi: And as to your ping.  Welp, that's a bummer but not high priority.20:03
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NoskcajIs there a ftp version of the xfce archive? I'm trying to port ubuntu-gnome's version watch to xfc20:21
Noskcaj*xfce20:21
ochosiNoskcaj: watch xfce?20:33
Noskcajlists what versions are in PPA, upstream, ubuntu20:34
Noskcajand debian20:34
NoskcajIgnore my ftp questions, doesn't matter20:34
NoskcajAre there any 4.11 things we don't have yet?20:47
Unit193mousepad, but not been released yet.20:58
Unit193Noskcaj: Also, you know there is https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org, right?21:08
Noskcajyes, just it doesn't list PPAs and is often slow to update21:08
NoskcajI"m giving up on the ppa_versions thing though. I'm too bad a coding for that21:08
bluesabreochosi: yeah, can't push to the volumd branch - but can add the patch to the debian package22:20
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