[00:02] <elfy> slickymaster jjfrv8 - fix landed for that 32 vbox issue, hopefully we'll see that in tomorrow's daily
[00:05] <jjfrv8> cool. might have time to give it a spin before I head out into the snow.
[02:49] <Unit193> andrzejr: Your libpulseaudio_plugin_la_LIBADD seems to be missing -lm ?
[08:42] <Unit193> evince (3.14.1-0ubuntu4) was uploaded, fixing LP: #1422354
[08:44] <brainvvash> Unit193, according to the last bug comment, it does not fix the issue
[08:45] <Unit193> Hah, so it doesn't. :D
[08:46] <brainvvash> I've only tested my patch, and it worked
[08:58] <brainvvash> Unit193, can you find any packaging error?
[08:59] <brainvvash> or maybe upload a version with my patch to some ppa
[09:13] <ochosi> Unit193: andrzejr is away for the next two weeks, so...
[09:13] <ochosi> and yeah, evince is still broken
[09:15] <brainvvash> ochosi, did you test the patch?
[12:37] <ochosi> brainvvash/brainwash: ofc, i've built the upstream 3.14.1 though
[12:37] <ochosi> with that it does work
[12:37] <ochosi> applied the other window-border patch that ubuntu is carrying and my patch
[12:38] <ochosi> so not really sure why it wouldn't work in ubuntu
[12:38] <ochosi> if you have time to test it with the ubuntu version, that'd be great
[12:40] <brainvvash> with the ubuntu version? isn't that basically the new package release?
[12:41] <ochosi> well, take the previous version, apply the patch by hand, rebuild the package and try that
[12:41] <ochosi> then we'd know it's some sort of packaging problem
[12:47] <brainvvash> ochosi, packaging problem, the patch was not added to debian/series
[12:47]  * ochosi facepalms
[12:47] <ochosi> ok, i guess we either report a new bug or reopen this one and assign it to Laney
[12:48] <ochosi> i'll be away from tomorrow till thu, so the earliest i can follow up on this is friday
[12:48] <brainvvash> new bug I guess
[12:48] <ochosi> ideally just ping him in #u-desktop about it
[12:48] <brainvvash> I was about to say that you should ping him (now)
[12:48] <brainvvash> :D
[12:49] <ochosi> well he's not around now
[12:49] <ochosi> but i can do that when we have the new bugreport
[12:51] <brainvvash> maybe someone else can fix it, well, every ubuntu dev should be able to
[12:56] <ochosi> nah, let's just stick to Laney
[12:56] <brainvvash> ok
[12:56] <ochosi> he's a nice guy and quite helpful
[12:57] <ochosi> also, he's the one who messed up ;)
[12:59] <brainvvash> bug 1424180
[13:02] <ochosi> ok, i consider that taken care of, sort of
[13:02] <ochosi> in -0ubuntu5
[13:03] <brainvvash> yep
[13:09] <ochosi> brainvvash: i vaguely remember UBUNTU_MENUPROXY not being set anymore, any recollection of that?
[13:10] <ochosi> (at least here in vivid it doesn't seem to be set anyway)
[13:10] <ochosi> my conclusion would be that all these bugs are basically fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-volumed/+bug/1347272
[13:11] <ochosi> since that was the troublemaker (according to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-volumed/+bug/1314782)
[13:11] <ochosi> bluesabre: any idea about this ^ ?
[13:12] <bluesabre> ochosi: as far I know, those were all fixed
[13:12] <brainvvash> UBUNTU_MENUPROX fixed in trusty + utopic
[13:12] <brainvvash> bug 1307657
[13:12] <ochosi> k
[13:12] <ochosi> in that case we should just mark that whole damn thing fixed with a reference to that SRU
[13:13] <ochosi> brainvvash: care to do the honours? ^
[13:13] <bluesabre> xfce apps were patched to fix it, and unity-gtk-module was patched for good measure
[13:13] <brainvvash> what about the upstream reports?
[13:13] <ochosi> i'll close those i guess
[13:13] <ochosi> although i guess finding a commit for each of those would be nice...
[13:14] <brainvvash> there are also other gtk modules like the unity scrollbars which could trigger the bug
[13:15] <brainvvash> it should be fixed in appfinder, because it was ported to gdbus and somehow (or because of that) does not trigger the bug anymore
[13:15] <brainvvash> let me try to find some comment
[13:16] <brainvvash> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-appfinder/+bug/1048805/comments/15
[13:16] <ochosi> yeah, the commit for porting to gdbus is this one: 4a065a10945c72c985e254ff1ef13df188f3e11e
[13:16] <brainvvash> comment 15
[13:17] <brainvvash> so it's resolved unless proven otherwise
[13:17] <brainvvash> was there even a new appfinder release after that git commit?
[13:17] <ochosi> yes
[13:17] <brainvvash> ok
[13:17] <ochosi> 4.11.0
[13:18] <ochosi> ok, next up thunar
[13:20] <brainvvash> was thunar even affected or just added to the list, because it creates a daemon process too?
[13:20] <ochosi> i don't know tbh
[13:21] <brainvvash> I'd think that thunar uses gdbus too
[13:22] <ochosi> it definitely sets up the daemon mode after init
[13:23] <ochosi> so i'll mark this as invalid
[13:23] <brainvvash> ok
[13:30] <jjfrv8> elfy, the good news is we've gained the try/install buttons; the bad news, we've lost the restart button at the end of an install :(
[13:32] <jjfrv8> that's for the 32-bit. haven't had a chance to try the 64 and probably won't until later today.
[13:36] <jjfrv8> bbl
[13:38] <brainvvash> ochosi, what about https://code.launchpad.net/~a-j-buxton/xfce4-volumed-pulse/fork-before-gtk-init ?
[13:38] <brainvvash> can anyone merge that?
[13:38] <brainvvash> bluesabre, ^ :D
[13:39] <bluesabre> >.>
[13:40] <bluesabre> yes, will do that this morning
[13:40] <brainvvash> thanks
[13:41] <brainvvash> there is also another pending patch bug 1326733
[13:41] <brainvvash> but maybe it's a won't fix, dunno
[13:42] <bluesabre> yeah, that sounds undesirable
[13:43] <ochosi> bluesabre: i guess none of us has pushrights to volumed-pulse
[13:43] <ochosi> so we can prolly only add it as a patch to the package, right?
[13:43] <brainvvash> oh ochosi, you've already marked volumed-pulse as fixed, before even fixing it :D
[13:43] <ochosi> ideally this should just be merged into upstream and made a build-option
[13:44] <ochosi> brainvvash: it's fixed via UBUNTU_MENUPROXY
[13:44] <ochosi> so whatever
[13:44] <ochosi> that bugreport was just not useful anyway, far too big
[13:45] <brainvvash> yea, especially because every package was also nominated for SRU -> additional clutter
[13:45] <ochosi> if the pulseaudio plugin progresses a little more, we might just replace volumed-pulse with it
[13:45] <ochosi> (well, and indicator-sound)
[13:47] <bluesabre> ochosi: get it to mostly feature parity :)
[13:49] <ochosi> i guess if we could motivate matias to join in, that wouldn't be too hard
[13:49] <ochosi> he has already written much of the mpris stuff
[13:49] <ochosi> it's in the soundmenu plugin
[13:50] <ochosi> bbabl
[13:53] <bluesabre> seeya
[16:10] <elfy> jjfrv8: mmm - the text is bit mixed up, but I can see the line to press enter in both 32 and 64bit
[16:46] <slickymaster> thanks for the heads up on the 32 bit images, e
[16:46] <slickymaster> elfy even
[16:46] <slickymaster> I'll try some tests next Monday
[16:46] <elfy> cheers :)
[17:01] <slickymaster> elfy. knome, yeah, we should set some time aside to look at/finish the slideshow
[17:02] <slickymaster> but not a three way as knome's suggestion :P
[17:02] <slickymaster> way many surreptitious readings on that 
[17:04] <elfy> slickymaster: :)
[17:04] <bluesabre> knome only meant one
[17:04] <bluesabre> and we know which one
[17:04] <elfy> lol
[17:04] <bluesabre> and its not appropriate for this channel
[17:04] <bluesabre> :P
[17:04] <elfy> ha 
[17:05] <elfy> slickymaster: basically we'd need to get a suitable poll set that we can run for a cycle - then make sure necessary is on a link
[17:06] <elfy> also - bluesabre slickymaster and Unit193 got mail re the QA thing
[17:06] <elfy> and everyone (incvluding knome ) can comment there - just still XPL and QA lead can edit
[17:07] <bluesabre> elfy: got it
[17:10] <elfy> cool
[17:11] <slickymaster> yeah elfy , saw the mail but haven't saw the soreadsheet yet
[17:11] <slickymaster> spreadsheet even
[17:11] <elfy> and obviously it's always going to be a wip 
[17:15] <slickymaster> that's just images status, in the spreadsheet, right?
[17:16] <elfy> slickymaster: just straight count 
[17:17] <slickymaster> I'm assuming that those values are pulled directly out of the tracker
[17:17] <slickymaster> or am I wrong?
[17:19] <slickymaster> elfy, those stats are somewhat different from the ones in the tracker
[17:19] <slickymaster> from the tracker: Vivid Daily (Testing): slickymaster: 33
[17:20] <slickymaster> nevermind; i saw now that you one add values until January 31st
[17:20] <elfy> :)
[18:10] <Unit193> Got it too, yep.
[18:55] <ochosi> bluesabre: should we do a release/upload of x-d-s at some point soonish?
[18:55] <ochosi> there are still some unreleased fixes iirc
[18:55] <Unit193> There are, I done did them.
[19:01] <bluesabre> oh
[19:02]  * bluesabre takes a look
[19:03] <ochosi> also, this one is a wontfix imo
[19:03] <ochosi> unless it's also changed upstream
[19:03] <ochosi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/1301056
[19:03] <ochosi> Unit193, bluesabre ^
[19:03] <elfy> Unit193: ack that
[19:05] <bluesabre> ochosi: I'd agree, thats a wontfix
[19:05] <bluesabre> bug I'm not a bug admin
[19:05] <ochosi> useless string change, breaks translations, useless delta
[19:05] <bluesabre> anything else you guys want in -default-settings before I push?
[19:05] <ochosi> elfy: you can haz bug-admin?
[19:05] <Unit193> Discussed that one a couple days ago.
[19:06] <elfy> ochosi: can I? 
[19:06] <ochosi> yeah, that's the question
[19:06] <ochosi> if you can, please mark the above linked bugreport as wontfix ;)
[19:07] <elfy> oic - no I can't - not got bug-admin
[19:07] <ochosi> hm, anyone in team?
[19:07] <elfy> slickymaster I think for one
[19:08] <bluesabre> brainvvash, knome, I think
[19:08] <brainvvash> negative
[19:08] <elfy> odd
[19:08] <elfy> I Can mark as Opinion
[19:09] <bluesabre> same, but can't kill it
[19:09] <brainvvash> mark as invalid :>
[19:11] <elfy> yea - but probably best not to wildly change status :)
[19:11] <brainvvash> bluesabre, and bug 1033174 ?
[19:12] <brainvvash> this was added upstream "Add <Ctrl><Alt>l shortcut for screen locking (xflock4)"
[19:13] <brainvvash> currently we only have <super>l in xubuntu I think
[19:13] <Unit193> Ctrl+Alt+Del, to confuse all those windows users.
[19:14] <elfy> :p
[19:14] <ochosi> hehe
[19:14] <bluesabre> makes it easy to remember though
[19:15] <bluesabre> "I remember how to lock my xubuntu pc!"
[19:15] <ochosi> not sure we need yet another shortcut tbh, it's easy enough for ppl to configure their own
[19:15] <bluesabre> "oh... oh no... the screen is black"
[19:16] <brainvvash> we have <ctrl><alt>t AND <super>t for xfce4-terminal
[19:16] <elfy> isn't that the lock shortcut anyway?
[19:16] <ochosi> if you others agree it's worthwile, i don't care enough to oppose
[19:16] <brainvvash> I just want to close the report :)
[19:16] <brainvvash> no need to keep it open any longer
[19:16] <bluesabre> ctrl+alt+del is the lock shortcut
[19:17] <bluesabre> that bug report wants it to be shutdown menu
[19:17] <elfy> bluesabre: mmm not here in this brand new install it isn't
[19:17] <bluesabre> let's not change a shortcut we've used for years :D
[19:17] <bluesabre> orly
[19:17] <elfy> and I've not had time to break that
[19:18] <brainvvash> what does it do?
[19:18] <elfy> hang on 
[19:18] <elfy> xfloc4 - shortcuts, ctrl+alt+del and also ctrl+alt+l 
[19:19] <brainvvash> bluesabre, the thing is, if you can use <Ctrl><Alt>l in default Xfce, maybe it should also trigger the lock screen in xubuntu
[19:19] <elfy> sigh
[19:19] <elfy> it does
[19:21] <bluesabre> then we can mark it as fixed with a comment that ctrl-alt-del will not be changed
[19:21] <elfy> http://i.imgur.com/aQWV4fc.png
[19:21] <brainvvash> did you start the normal Xfce session?
[19:22] <elfy> apart from anything else - reading make it for Windows users immediately makes me think Wont Fix
[19:22] <elfy> brainvvash: why would I do that - I run Xubuntu
[19:22] <bluesabre> heh
[19:23] <brainvvash> mmh, i have only one shortcut for xflock4
[19:23] <brainvvash> the -del one
[19:23] <elfy> in vivid?
[19:23] <brainvvash> yes
[19:24] <brainvvash> let me start the quest session
[19:24] <bluesabre> just verified in guest session here
[19:24] <elfy> this is a clean clean install from yesterday
[19:25] <elfy> bluesabre: verified both? 
[19:25] <bluesabre> yes
[19:25]  * elfy hopes this isn't broken already ... 
[19:25] <elfy> oh good :D
[19:25] <bluesabre> L, Del
[19:26] <brainvvash> yeah, ctrl+alt-l and ctrl+alt+del in guest session
[19:26] <elfy> bluesabre: cool :)
[19:26] <brainvvash> wasn't super+l used at some point?
[19:26] <brainvvash> maybe I'm mixing up things
[19:26] <elfy> this position of indicator menu's when panel is at bottom really is a bit of a pain you know
[19:26] <ochosi> what, are you gonna report a bug now that "Super+L" isn't a shortcut for locking?
[19:27] <ochosi> elfy: yeah, unfortunate gtk3 bug :/
[19:27] <brainvvash> i want to close the mentioned one
[19:27] <elfy> brainvvash: this is why I'm glad I sed release/dev on the sources list the day after release :p
[19:27] <ochosi> i guess this will (have to) improve when the panel is gtk3
[19:28] <elfy> brainvvash: doing something now
[19:29] <bluesabre> brainvvash: closed it
[19:29] <brainvvash> bluesabre, thanks
[19:30] <elfy> hah
[19:30] <ochosi> bluesabre: we should really apply for bugsquad...
[19:30] <elfy> biposting :D
[19:30] <bluesabre> ochosi: probably should :)
[19:31]  * elfy won't 
[19:31] <elfy> have you seen the stupid wiki's they expect people to read for free ... 
[19:32] <elfy> here you are - 10k words - easy :p
[19:32] <ochosi> :/
[19:32] <ochosi> we have to ask knome how he did it
[19:32] <ochosi> prolly pulled some strings ;)
[19:33] <bluesabre> elfy: sounds like some xfce bugs
[19:33] <elfy> changed the wiki so it was only 10k words probably :D
[19:33] <elfy> bluesabre: :)
[19:55] <ochosi> bluesabre: whenever you release x-d-s, please mark this one as fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1396804
[19:55] <bluesabre> ochosi: too slow!
[19:55] <bluesabre> oh wait
[19:56] <bluesabre> yup
[19:56] <bluesabre> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/head:/debian/changelog
[19:56] <ochosi> k, fix released then ;)
[19:56] <bluesabre> oh wait
[19:56] <bluesabre> you don't read those
[19:56] <bluesabre> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/head:/debian/changelog#L9
[19:56] <bluesabre> theres the exact line
[19:56] <bluesabre> :P
[19:56] <elfy> I see file manager and also a command from where I've pkexec'd in al;t+f2
[19:56] <elfy> but you already know that's fixed ... 
[19:57] <bluesabre> I just now uploaded x-d-s
[19:57] <bluesabre> so it won't appear for a few hours
[19:57] <bluesabre> (15.04.3)
[19:57] <elfy> bluesabre: I don't see 2 entries here
[19:58] <bluesabre> elfy: you have -staging installed?
[19:59] <bluesabre> xubuntu-default-settings builds daily there, so you'd have the fix already
[19:59] <elfy> bluesabre: oh yea ... 
[19:59] <elfy> :)
[20:00] <elfy> bluesabre:  the proposed fix for that 2 thunar's works :D
[20:01] <bluesabre> :D
[20:03] <Unit193> ochosi: And as to your ping.  Welp, that's a bummer but not high priority.
[20:21] <Noskcaj> Is there a ftp version of the xfce archive? I'm trying to port ubuntu-gnome's version watch to xfc
[20:21] <Noskcaj> *xfce
[20:33] <ochosi> Noskcaj: watch xfce?
[20:34] <Noskcaj> lists what versions are in PPA, upstream, ubuntu
[20:34] <Noskcaj> and debian
[20:34] <Noskcaj> Ignore my ftp questions, doesn't matter
[20:47] <Noskcaj> Are there any 4.11 things we don't have yet?
[20:58] <Unit193> mousepad, but not been released yet.
[21:08] <Unit193> Noskcaj: Also, you know there is https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org, right?
[21:08] <Noskcaj> yes, just it doesn't list PPAs and is often slow to update
[21:08] <Noskcaj> I"m giving up on the ppa_versions thing though. I'm too bad a coding for that
[22:20] <bluesabre> ochosi: yeah, can't push to the volumd branch - but can add the patch to the debian package
[22:20] <bluesabre> bbiab
[23:12] <bluesabre> back
[23:14] <Unit193> front
[23:17] <bluesabre> D: