[00:43] <MiraxTH>  
[02:33] <deitarion> Where's the Kubuntu alternate image? I'm trying to reinstall my brother's PC with UEFI disabled for multi-boot reasons and the Kubuntu installer goes to black screen at the X11 phase, even with nomodeset, even with nomodeset nolapic, and even with nomodeset nolapic noapic.
[02:34] <deitarion> (That is, with what his UEFI refers to as "Legacy booting only")
[02:35] <deitarion> (In case anyone has something else to suggest, he's running an Intel-based machine with a GeForce GTX 760)
[02:35] <deitarion> Oh, I specifically want Kubuntu 14.04, not 14.10. He has to leave for University tomorrow morning and that's a known quantity.
[02:39] <deitarion> Ugh. Finally managed to squeeze "they no longer make them" out of Google. I guess I'll give him one of my Lubuntu DVD+Rs and he can apt-get kubuntu-desktop afterward.
[03:06] <deitarion> *grr* I'm now very glad that Windows 7 was freshly installed because apparently, in the text-mode installer's partitioner, "Go Back" means "commit deletion of delete partition table and return to menu".
[03:07] <deitarion> s/of delete/of/
[03:13] <deitarion> *sigh* Thank goodness. It didn't delete Win7... it just has no way to revert beyond the one step of undo offered to reach the actual on-disk state of the partition short of rebooting and starting the text-mode install over.
[03:13] <deitarion> s/partition/partition table/
[04:11] <mneuro> I am unable to install the FGLRX driver in Kubuntu 14.04.2.  I choose fglrx and click accept but it doesn't install it.  Is ther a known fix?
[08:11] <deitarion> Ugh! It DID delete Windows 7 because the "use all free space" option treated the entire drive as free!
[09:30] <NoOova> what office package used in kde?
[09:40] <dinosaur> Can you run x-terminal-emulator and give me the output? I want to get to know what kind of terminal emulator is used in Kubuntu by default
[10:07] <falken> KMail hasn't been able to create IMAP folders for years. ANy ideas how to interest upstream in fixing it ? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292418
[10:09] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:22] <falken> (ubottu:) no, it's not resolved. see the comments,
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:47] <Dtcdarkraven> greetings all, im trying to locate my theme folder for kde 4.14.2 however i cannot find it in /root/.kde/share/kde4/ or /root/.kde/share/apps/ any idea on were to look?
[15:57] <deitarion> Dtcdarkraven: Why are you looking in the root user's $HOME for it?
[15:58] <Dtcdarkraven> mhmm, good question.., i may have misread my information.., were should i be looking at then?
[15:59] <deitarion> Themes installed system-wide or themes installed for just one user?
[16:00] <Dtcdarkraven> system wide would do just fine
[16:00] <deitarion> ...and what kinds of themes are you looking for? (Some, such as icon themes, aren't KDE-specific, and that means they're stored elsewhere)
[16:01] <Dtcdarkraven> im looking to install a kde specific theme really like the light Warp one from KDE-look.org
[16:02] <Coldfusionstorm> Dtcdarkraven, Link ? :D
[16:02] <Coldfusionstorm> i just saw the word Warp
[16:02] <Coldfusionstorm> and im like i wanna see that
[16:03] <Dtcdarkraven> think i found it to.. the link is: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Light+Warp?content=161156&PHPSESSID=f9c1dfe45e15ebe6624c309b228e1794 location: /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/
[16:03] <Coldfusionstorm> that looks great
[16:03] <Coldfusionstorm> !
[16:03] <Coldfusionstorm> it makes the menu look so much better
[16:04] <Dtcdarkraven> yes it uses the lancelot launcher fwi ;)
[16:04] <Dtcdarkraven> fyi*
[16:04] <Coldfusionstorm> i use the lancelot launcher myself
[16:04] <Coldfusionstorm> imho, The windows 7 Menu was amazing
[16:04] <Coldfusionstorm> and Kde has the launchers that is the closest to that
[16:05] <deitarion> Dtcdarkraven: Yeah, that looks right.
[16:05] <Coldfusionstorm> lancelot is great in any case, i just wish the search bar was lower
[16:05] <Coldfusionstorm> but i guess that is just something getting used to
[16:05] <deitarion> ...though you might actually want to install it to ~/.kde4/share/apps/desktoptheme/
[16:05] <Dtcdarkraven> its a little bit to big for me to.., then again.. having 2 monitors allows me to prety much use a variety of launchers.. :P
[16:05] <deitarion> Installing it as a user-specific theme would mean that you could catch the theme and the config that wants it in the same backup.
[16:05] <Coldfusionstorm> xD
[16:08] <Coldfusionstorm> Sweet. On linux i can actually tab out of teamfortress 2 while loading :D
[16:10] <BluesKaj_> Coldfusionstorm, KDE is very familiar looking to former windows users, that's why linux purists are reluctant to use it, they figure it's tainted somehow because it loos too much like windows
[16:10] <Dtcdarkraven> yes, you can still working on getting steam to close/minimize to tray properly though
[16:11] <Dtcdarkraven> well.. i enjoy it becouse how modular it is.., and it does have some signs of windows.., but its absolutely not why i like it ;)
[16:12] <BluesKaj_> I've always maintained that KDE is what Windows should actaully be using :)
[16:12] <deitarion> BluesKaj_: Define "linux purist". I think I fit most definitions and I was a diehard KDE lover until KDE 4.x came around and continutes to be inferior to LXDE at being a KDE 3.5.10 imitation.
[16:12] <Dtcdarkraven> meh.. windows would freak.. :P
[16:12] <deitarion> s/continutes/continues/
[16:13] <Dtcdarkraven> i think purists means "ANTI windows" more then " being very partial to linux " in this case ;)
[16:13] <Coldfusionstorm> but that's why i love it BluesKaj_ :)
[16:13] <BluesKaj_> deitarion, my definition of a purist is a linux user who hates to use desktop at all , but is forced to :)
[16:13] <Coldfusionstorm> it's easy to use with all the customzation and goodness of linux
[16:13] <Coldfusionstorm> <3
[16:13] <Dtcdarkraven> windows is like air.., its not good for you.., but you HAVE to use it.. atleast sometimes
[16:14] <deitarion> BluesKaj_: Ahh. Then I wouldn't be a purist by that definition. I thought Konqueror+Yakuake was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
[16:14] <BluesKaj_> air not good for you?I think that depends on where you live, Dtcdarkraven
[16:14] <Dtcdarkraven> exually.. i read a scientific reasearch paper, saying that oxygen is not good for the body..
[16:15] <Dtcdarkraven> which is possible.. still we need it though.. :P
[16:15] <BluesKaj_> deitarion, yeah I love yakuake , konqueror unfortunately has fallen by the wayside
[16:16] <deitarion> BluesKaj_: *nod* My view is that Dolphin refuses to support KPart preview because KParts + KIO = most minimal web browser possible... which would prove to everyone that it was just reinventing the wheel.
[16:16] <BluesKaj_> Dtcdarkraven, well , I'd reject such a claim out of hand ...doesn't sound very scientific to me
[16:18] <Dtcdarkraven> well.. if you think about the fact that oxygen corodes.. its not such a big leap it could have simular effects on organaic tissue..
[16:18] <Dtcdarkraven> oxedises*
[16:19] <deitarion> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_radicals#In_biology
[16:20] <deitarion> Basically, oxygen-based free radicals are essential to our biology but, like any powerful chemicals, they cause damage if it's not careful how it handles them.
[16:21]  * Dtcdarkraven nods
[16:22] <Dtcdarkraven> by the way, im having trouble finding the folder you recomended , i did find /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/ and extracted the theme in there, however its not showing up using that path ( the other themes are in there though )
[16:23] <deitarion> Dtcdarkraven: I always installed my themes using Get Hot New Stuff or the system package manager so I'm not certain, but it's possible it's operating on cached data and you need to force a re-check somehow.
[16:24] <deitarion> (The most blunt approach being to log out and log in so the process is restarted)
[16:25] <Dtcdarkraven> then patience is key for me! still goto do some things that prevent me from relogging.. o.O
[16:26] <deitarion> I'm probably more patient. I'll sometimes live for a week or two without anything that requires OpenGL and with irritating workarounds for apps that try to use VDPAU because I don't want to close down my desktop session to load the new nvidia kernel module.
[16:27] <Dtcdarkraven> hahaha, its one of the first things i do after installing kubuntu.. get them drivers for nvidia in.. 3.40** seems to work best for me.. getting to properly build any newer ones seems to just fail completely and corrupt my install
[16:28] <deitarion> Same because I can't live without TwinView but, at the same time, I dread each driver update because who knows how long it'll be between the update and my actually being willing to reboot. (By the time I'm ready, there's always a kernel update to apply too)
[16:29] <deitarion> I actually wrote my own update notifier because they removed the "don't nag me to reboot" checkbox from the one I was using before.
[16:30]  * Dtcdarkraven sees an possibly interesting aplication, "please tell me more?"
[16:30] <deitarion> Just a simple little cron-driven shell script which uses Zenity to display a dialog. --> http://blog.ssokolow.com/archives/2014/08/08/hacking-together-a-quick-update-notifier/
[16:31] <Dtcdarkraven> il have a look at it, is that the twinview you were talking about?
[16:31] <Dtcdarkraven> ooh the notifier.. afcourse.. il check it out to ^^
[16:31] <deitarion> TwinView is what nVidia calls their GPU-accelerated Xinerama implementation on Linux.
[16:32] <deitarion> (The part of the binary drivers that offloads "stitch together the two monitors into one desktop" to the GPU)
[16:32] <deitarion> Can't remember what they're calling it on Windows these days. I know it was called nView at one point.
[16:33] <Dtcdarkraven> aah i understand. most likely i already have it then and its being used, seeying as i have 2 monitors active, only thing im looking for is 3dvision 2 drivers for linux.. prob wont happen though.. :3
[16:33] <deitarion> I'm waiting to see if we get open-source drivers for the consumer release of the Oculus Rift.
[16:34] <deitarion> (They'd have to be 3rd-party, naturally. I doubt Oculus has the rights to open-source the 3D positional audio technology they apparently licensed recently for the earphones they've added to the design.)
[16:34] <Dtcdarkraven> indeed.., time for to go afk though, got dinner to prepare.. back in a while ;)
[16:35] <deitarion> I'll probably be asleep by then, but nice talking to you. (It's 11:35AM and I was supposed to be in bed by 7AM)
[17:49] <naftilos76> Hi, i am trying to let a user exec a command without entering a password or whatever. I have just added the line "naftilos76  ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /sbin/iptables -L --line-numbers -n -v" . Is that supposed to work? So far it does not.
[18:48] <Guest37442> Hi all
[18:49] <James__> how to got o
[19:07] <CharlieTheCabbie> Good evening.  I need to find out if there is anyone on here who I can speak to about a potential bug, in case it's not a bug...I think I know what I mean anyway :)
[19:08] <CharlieTheCabbie> I have a problem with the clock on the bottom panel, I have it connected to Jovie so that every fifteen minutes, it tells me the time (in 24 hour format) - but there's a problem.
[19:09] <CharlieTheCabbie> It gets the 15, 30 and 45 minute settings fine, but at the top of the hour,  instead of saying "It is Nineteen Hundred hours" it tells you "it is nineteen o'clock" - which is obviously wrong.
[19:17] <buntu> hi
[19:19] <buntu> when kubuntu with KDE 5.2 will be out.. stable release not the preview