[00:42] <pleia2> next Xubuntu at article drafted here http://xubuntu.org/?p=2965
[00:42] <pleia2> we need to find more orgs using Xubuntu, I've run out
[00:45] <bluesabre> ochosi, ali1234: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-volumed/0.2.0-0ubuntu2
[00:46] <bluesabre> pleia2: that looks good :)
[00:48] <pleia2> great, it's shorter than some of the others, but very direct
[00:50] <bluesabre> nothing wrong with that
[00:50] <pleia2> I'll publish on Monday or so
[00:53] <Noskcaj> ochosi, darkxst did the work for me, so we now have http://phillw.net/ubuntu-gnome/Xvivid410.html
[01:02] <Noskcaj> It will probably be renamed to http://phillw.net/ubuntu-gnome/Xvivid412.html
[09:17] <Akusari> hello  :-)
[09:17] <elfy> morning
[09:19] <Akusari> elfy: you wrote " nice little disk space usage bar turned up in thunar" which version is it?
[09:20] <elfy> 1.6.5
[09:21] <Akusari> ahhh, thanks
[09:22] <Akusari> so, its a deb package in vivid?
[09:30] <elfy> yep an update in vivid
[09:33] <Akusari> thanks, wasn't an good idea todo a bling update in trusty :-P
[09:33] <Akusari> blind
[09:36] <Akusari> Well, maybe a backport to trusty is possible. I'll look on depencies and changelog. i have the bzr trunk already :-)
[09:45] <brainvvash> Akusari, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12
[09:49] <Akusari> brainvvash thanks, sounds good
[09:53] <Akusari> hmmm, i don't see all thunar plugins shipped with this ppa. Maybe there are package collection changes. I'll test it on my dev vbox :-)
[09:54] <Akusari> btw: if xfce 4.12 is out finaly, do you plan a trusty backport ? 
[12:07] <elfy> for you xfce peeps - https://wiki.xfce.org/contribute points to xfce users mailing list
[12:07] <elfy> that gets a 404 
[12:07] <elfy> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
[12:58] <bluesabre> elfy: lol
[13:00] <elfy> bluesabre: I was just looking at your blog re 4.12
[13:00] <elfy> so followed the trail ;)
[13:01] <elfy> just realised I can report that :p
[13:02] <bluesabre> :D
[13:02] <bluesabre> reported it up the chain
[13:03] <bluesabre> elfy: its fixed
[13:04] <bluesabre> thanks for your bug report :D
[13:04] <elfy> :D
[13:05] <elfy> that's funny - let me mark it fixed resolved 
[13:05] <elfy> I really should hang about in xfce-dev I guess 
[13:06] <elfy> bluesabre: anyway - so if xfce wants people to test this stuff - I assume as vanilla xfce, which is best done where? 
[13:06] <elfy> and how on earth can you grab a bug list without specifying anything but date and not fixed? 
[13:07] <bluesabre> elfy: its easiest to test in vivid, we have everything there
[13:07] <bluesabre> the bug list is tricky, you have to modify the url
[13:07] <elfy> just as xfce session? 
[13:07] <bluesabre> xubuntu session should be fine actually
[13:08] <elfy> I hate bug lists - if I can't find something easily - report it, someone somewhere will facepalm and mark as dupe :D
[13:08] <elfy> bluesabre: oh ok - so doing that anyway then :p
[13:08] <bluesabre> but you can modify the url and drop all the extra fluff until you have product and resolution, like so
[13:08] <bluesabre> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/buglist.cgi?product=Exo&resolution=---
[13:09] <bluesabre> elfy: yup, xubuntu team is pretty invaluable for xfce testing since we always ship the latest
[13:09] <elfy> ok - might add trawling through xfce bugs to my plan
[13:09] <bluesabre> that and arch
[13:09] <elfy> yep
[15:18] <elfy> what I mean by lost any clue is I've lost the will to live when people "lightlocker 14.04" in any combination
[15:33] <dkessel> Unit193, others: yay for lowering the translation percentage - the german docs translation will make it into vivid now =)
[15:33]  * dkessel will continue translating the remaining parts nevertheless :)
[15:34] <dkessel> if any of you want to steal my PPA recipe for the docs and add it to staging or something, that's fine with me too
[15:35] <dkessel> ^ don't know who to ping ;)
[15:36] <elfy> neither do I :)
[15:53] <Akusari> I noticed that ppa xfec-4.12 includes xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin version 1.43. The official xubuntu-backports ppa for trusty is shipped with version 1.40 only. Version 1.43 includes only bugfixes and no functional change compared to 1.40. Suggestion: Copy version 1.43 to xubuntu-backports for all users :-)
[15:54] <Akusari> i'm using version 1.43 with trusty for a week now without any problems so far
[18:54] <Unit193> dkessel: Sure thing, doc.
[18:54] <Unit193> "The official xubuntu-backports ppa for trusty"?
[19:06] <dkessel> Nah
[19:06] <dkessel> Unit193: https://launchpad.net/~dkessel/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-docs-daily
[19:07] <Unit193> Nah, someone else's comment after yours.
[19:12] <dkessel> D'oh
[22:08] <knome> pleia2, ochosi: either of you around?
[22:12]  * bluesabre is
[22:12] <knome> 00:03 knome: oh wow
[22:12] <knome> 00:03 knome: our theme has been up for like 4 days
[22:12] <knome> i'm about to make it public soonish
[22:12] <knome> i need yes to check it once that's done
[22:13] <bluesabre> sounds exciting :D
[22:13] <knome> yes!!
[22:16] <knome> ok, done
[22:16] <knome> please look around
[22:17] <bluesabre> looking
[22:17] <bluesabre> no hand-drawn computers?
[22:17] <knome> not yet
[22:18] <bluesabre> knome: 14.10 release announcement points to the beta announcement
[22:18] <knome> heh.
[22:18] <knome> fixed
[22:19] <knome> damn caching :)
[22:20]  * bluesabre wants to standardize the screenshot size for http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/
[22:20] <knome> hmm?
[22:21] <knome> oh, heh, image aspect ratio?
[22:21] <knome> it also shows images in a weird order
[22:21] <knome> :)
[22:21] <knome> if you have a $bunch of shots for 14.04 and/or 14.10, put them somewhere and i'll grab an push them
[22:22] <bluesabre> I'll try to get a bunch of same aspect ratio in the next few days
[22:22] <bluesabre> http://xubuntu.org/blog/ is kinda left-heavy
[22:22] <knome> wfm
[22:22] <knome> or cooperate with slickymaster 
[22:22] <knome> oh, of course
[22:22] <knome> need to fix that next
[22:23] <bluesabre> http://xubuntu.org/donations/ is pretty
[22:23] <knome> mhm
[22:23] <knome> many pages arẹ..
[22:24] <bluesabre> http://i.imgur.com/HMUq8RD.png
[22:24] <knome> i know i know
[22:24] <knome> just didn't get to that yet
[22:24] <bluesabre> :D
[22:25] <knome> should be better already
[22:26] <knome> search widget still looks crappy, so not showing it
[22:26] <bluesabre> knome: very nice
[22:26] <bluesabre> no other appearance issues
[22:26] <knome> this is all so nice
[22:26] <knome> thanks!
[22:26] <knome> i also tweeted about it, you might want to RT
[22:26] <bluesabre> indeed
[22:27] <bluesabre> done
[22:27]  * knome bows
[22:34] <bluesabre> knome: actually, why no 14.04 screenshots at all?
[22:34] <knome> because old stuff
[22:34] <knome> we are doing things in the new way (tm) now...
[22:34] <knome> i guess i could move the 14.04 screenshots to the screenshots page
[22:35] <bluesabre> its a lot prettier than the releases preceding it
[22:35] <knome> heh, i would hope every release is
[22:36] <bluesabre> so, what do we want the standard screenshot resolution to be?
[22:38] <knome> i guess we want it to be in widescreen, most people use that now
[22:38] <bluesabre> also, http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/oneiric_01/ (is the panel missing because that was the one with the seemingly innappropriate date)?
[22:38] <knome> i have no idea...
[22:39] <knome> i personally would dump all the old screenshots for now.
[22:39] <bluesabre> yeah
[22:39] <knome> we can reupload them if we need/want to
[22:39] <knome> probably to an archive page or sth
[22:39] <knome> the thing is,
[22:39] <knome> the screenshots page used to be the archive page
[22:39] <knome> because we had the recent screenshots on the front page
[22:40] <bluesabre> ah, right
[22:40] <bluesabre> 1280×720 maybe?
[22:41] <knome> preferably >1400 in width
[22:41] <knome> or, tbe, 1400 or more
[22:41] <knome> that's the max width specified for the site
[22:41] <knome> but if they aren't, then no big deal
[22:41] <knome> because they should always be centered anyway
[22:41] <knome> ..i guess
[22:42] <bluesabre> :)
[22:46] <bluesabre> not sure > 1400 is a good idea with the recent burst in 1366×768 laptops
[22:46] <knome> heh
[22:46] <knome> well...
[22:46] <knome> do 1366 then
[22:46] <knome> but it doesn't really matter much
[22:49] <bluesabre> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp
[22:50] <knome> well i mean website-technically
[22:52] <bluesabre> yeah
[22:52] <bluesabre> just give me two numbers and I'll get on it
[22:52] <bluesabre> :P
[22:52] <bluesabre> and leave the VMs on my system in case we need to change
[22:52] <knome> well any regular widescreen aspect ration, with the width being 1400 or larger is ideal
[22:53] <knome> but if that's hard to do, 1366 or 1280 works as well
[22:55] <bluesabre> k
[22:55]  * bluesabre will work on 1440x900
[22:55] <knome> nice, thanks
[22:56]  * knome goes improve the download page
[23:04]  * knome fixed the release announcement posts with images
[23:04] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/news/14-10-release/
[23:04] <knome> looks nice and in line with the overall stuff now
[23:50] <bluesabre> knome: trusty https://www.dropbox.com/s/77fdiettxe6xcov/trusty.tar.gz?dl=0
[23:50] <knome> ta
[23:50] <knome> processing
[23:52] <bluesabre> I'll do a similar set for precise, and ~2-3 for utopic
[23:53] <knome> mhm
[23:53] <knome> fwiw, we currently have no way to order the images as we wish
[23:53] <bluesabre> oh?
[23:53] <knome> should probably think the right way (tm) to do that for 2.0
[23:53] <knome> yeah, currently it just orders based on time, newest first
[23:54] <bluesabre> we can use touch on the screenshots to order them before upload
[23:54] <knome> i believe it's upload time, not file creation time
[23:54] <knome> but that's an interesting idea.
[23:55] <bluesabre> not sure how ugly the upload time in the wp db is
[23:55] <bluesabre> or just bulk upload in order when we get all screens
[23:55] <knome> yes
[23:55] <knome> something like that
[23:57] <bluesabre> It'll take a while for the others, but should have them for you by morning
[23:58] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/
[23:58] <knome> okay.
[23:58] <knome> i have no idea why they turned up like that
[23:58] <knome> and in multiples.
[23:58] <bluesabre> lol