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MirvScottK: looks ok, I'll wait for sitter's patches and then start landing.06:46
soeegood morning07:27
sitterMirv: sorry, I totally forgot to commit the patches on friday ->  https://code.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/kubuntu-packaging/qtbase-opensource-src-netrunner15/+merge/25058608:46
lordievaderGood morning.09:01
soeeRiddell: ping me when you have a moment09:21
Mirvsitter: thanks!09:28
Mirvsitter: conflicting, though, like it shows on that page, since scott pushed some directly :) not hard to fix though09:28
Riddellhi soee 09:34
soeeRiddell: how do you like simplified website design like they have here: https://www.apple.com/pl/osx/ where we have several sections with big image and a bit of text ?09:37
sitterRiddell: libksysguard master just bumped the soversion a second time in the 5.3 cycle, you might want to have a chat with the dev to only bump once per cycle regardless of how many BIC there are?09:55
Riddellmm ok09:57
Riddellsoee: I like it a lot, it's quite a fashionable style currently and it's how the test.kubuntu.co.uk website is09:58
Riddellhi sebas, get home ok?09:58
sitterRiddell: oh and don't make him revert the bump now, I am already changing all the versions in the packaging09:58
* sitter actually wonders why we can't simply have a substvar for soversion >.<09:58
sebasRiddell: safe and sound :)09:59
RiddellGregor Mi, I don't know the guy09:59
soeeRiddell: cool because i want to do the promo site with the same style, simple, a lot of images to show system and its apps etc. 10:02
soeeso my previous concept changed a bit :-)10:02
sitterMirv: thanks <310:18
MirvI think I can mark that qtbase landing "desktop only" since it's only xcb+qwidget... and not go through the complete testing10:19
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soeekded5 gone mad again :<12:14
BluesKajHowdy all12:40
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lordievadersoee: ping13:22
soeelordievader: pong13:29
lordievadersoee: You use activities in Vivid, right?13:29
soeelordievader: nope, they are broken atm.13:29
lordievaderHmm, here they work. But super + tab to switch is broken.13:30
soeelordievader: my bug report @ activities https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34363013:31
ubottuKDE bug 343630 in Activity Switcher "Black screen after activity switch" [Major,Unconfirmed]13:31
soeelordievader: whats wrong with the shortcut ? i think thers no such shortcut atm. like was in KDE413:31
soeelordievader: you can only create shortcuts to each activity, but you cant switch prev/next atm.13:32
lordievaderThere is here, but it does nothing.13:32
soeelordievader: i hope my problem will be fixed when Scarlett finish work on 5.2.1 :)13:34
lordievader:D13:38
sgclarkmorning13:52
lordievaderHey sgclark13:54
soeehiho13:55
soeesgclark: any chance to have 5.2.1 today ? :)14:04
sgclarksoee: sure hope so.. had to put them in ninjas due to rejects. was up late last night doing so, just need some coffee...14:07
soeesgclark: cool, ping me if ready for tests14:08
sgclarkwill do14:08
sgclarkgood news is all compiled, looks like a few new symbols is all I need to do14:09
Riddellthanks sgclark :)14:09
ovidiu-florinHello world14:10
Riddellsgclark: and muon translations14:10
Riddellhi ovidiu-florin 14:10
sgclarkyeah just saw that14:11
ovidiu-florinI'm restarting the apache server on the docs server in 10 minutes. Please let me know if I need to postpone14:11
Riddellmgraesslin: should we also package a snapshot of libprison for klipper barcodes in plasma 5.2?14:12
Riddellovidiu-florin: what exciting things are you working on?14:12
ovidiu-florinCan't tell you14:12
ovidiu-florinit's a state secret :P14:12
Riddellgosh14:12
mgraesslinRiddell: from Klipper point of view: yes, please. From prison point of view: please ask Sune as well14:12
ovidiu-florinRiddell: thank you for the domains14:13
Riddellovidiu-florin: speaking of state secrets my brother is playing the dark tourist and going to see the surpringly modest grave of Nicolae Ceausescu http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/10940997_10155251992710187_7116699301856337803_n.jpg14:15
Riddellsgclark, sitter, anyone: anyone remember why we don't build-dep plasma-desktop against qalculate?14:16
ovidiu-florinI sense a hint of sarcasm when you say modest14:16
Riddellovidiu-florin: the grave looks pretty modest, certainly in comparison to that nutty palace in the capital14:17
ovidiu-florinnutty?14:17
sitterRiddell: because we have no qt5 qalculate14:17
sgclarkRiddell: I have no clue on that14:17
RiddellI'm being polite14:18
ovidiu-florinnutty? http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/happytreefriends/images/4/4e/Nutty.jpg/revision/2010102322570614:19
Riddellovidiu-florin: yeah, a bit crazy14:19
ovidiu-florinrestarting Apache14:22
* Riddell holds breath14:23
Riddellovidiu-florin: you know you don't have to restart it if you change the config, you can just reload it?14:23
Riddellsudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload14:23
Riddellshould work14:23
ovidiu-florinKABOOOM: http://kubdrup.kubuntu.co.uk/14:23
ovidiu-florinKubuntu site clone14:23
ovidiu-florinRiddell: I know14:23
Riddellgosh14:23
ovidiu-florinbut In case something went wrong, I've thought it's would be better to let you know14:24
ovidiu-florinwith errors on the new page14:24
ovidiu-florinRiddell: who's the decapitated dude from the T-shirts picture?14:24
ovidiu-florinhttp://kubdrup.kubuntu.co.uk/news/kubuntu-shirts14:24
Riddellovidiu-florin: stock photo stolen from suppliers at https://www.hellotux.com/14:26
ovidiu-florinoh, any other news about the T-shirts I made?14:27
ovidiu-florinGood, bad, ungly?14:27
Riddellovidiu-florin: good but I think the comments were too white14:29
ovidiu-florinwe can change the color14:29
Riddellsome people said they wouldn't wear or buy a white t-shirt except for use under something else14:29
ovidiu-florinI just want to know if we will collaborate with these guys in the future14:29
Riddellwe being me, I'm happy to if I end up organising t-shirts next fosdem14:30
Riddellyou'd need to ask seaLne if you wanted to suggest the same for akademy14:30
Riddellbut aye, all worked great as far as I'm concerned thanks very much for sorting14:31
ovidiu-florinI'll ask the guys to make ma an offer of KDE goodies of all sorts14:32
ovidiu-florinand see where we get14:32
sgclarkRiddell: PackageKitQt5 ? don't see it14:36
Riddellsgclark: ignore for now, I think it's only needed for kicker (the alternative menu) doing automatic app install14:38
Riddelland packagekit is a nightmare to package (ironic you might say)14:38
sgclarklol k14:38
Riddelland I was told it would use muon by now anyway or something14:38
sgclarkhmm odd, oxygen_kwin_deco translations are in the install file but showing as list-missing..14:41
Riddellhi manchicken, did you get a chance to look into muon?14:42
manchickenNot yet. I've forgotten what we're looking into... qt5 port?14:43
manchickenI've spent a lot of time traveling and then on the road lately with my dad.14:43
Riddellmanchicken: I think I saw a film about that once, were you traveling in a lawn mower?14:44
Riddellmanchicken: the main issue is working out what needs to be done to get the release upgrade notifications working14:44
manchickenHah!14:45
manchickenGotcha.14:45
manchickenIs there a test plan for that already which is failing?14:45
Riddellmanchicken: nope, it would need making one14:46
ovidiu-florinRiddell manchicken are you planning to code something in muon Discover?14:46
Riddellmanchicken: it needs installing vivid then convincing it that vivid+1 is released to see if there's notification14:46
Riddellovidiu-florin: hopefully not, I believe the notification is in but not in the 5.2 branch14:46
manchickenovidiu-florin: muon-notifier is what I thought we were playing with.14:46
ovidiu-florinI want to change something in Discover14:46
ovidiu-florinfix the tasking system14:47
Riddellmanchicken: both notifier and discover I think have the notifications14:47
ovidiu-florinadd some scrolls, a better progress bar14:47
ovidiu-florina cancel button14:47
manchickenOkay, I don't think we'll be playing in the same space.14:49
ovidiu-florinoh, ok14:49
RiddellScottK: I take it I need a FFe to add libprison to klipper plasma5 (it hasn't been used in plasma5 before but it had in plasma4)15:20
ScottKRiddell: yes, but consider this your IRC FFe approval and go forth.15:22
sgclarkRiddell: all done except I am quite perplexed on the oxygen translation files... it is listed in the .install file...15:23
RiddellScottK: pleasingly beurocratic free :)15:24
Riddellsgclark: ok I'll look in a minute15:25
Riddellsitter: all new frameworks for ci loving http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/prison.git/16:04
sitterRiddell: make a kubunt_unstable branch please16:05
sitter*kubuntu_unstable16:05
Riddellsitter: voila16:06
* sitter runs script16:08
ovidiu-florinjose: ping16:09
sitterRiddell: what's the upstream branch for that?16:11
sittermaster?16:11
Riddellsitter: frameworks16:13
sittermeh16:13
Riddellsitter: and you're wrong about qalculate, it's a c++ library no qt around, it just needs a build-dep on glib-2.0 for plasma-workspace to find it16:16
sitteroh16:16
sitterfancy name then xD16:17
Riddellsitter: release upgrade seems to work with your qt5 version but I keep running out of disk space so can't really confirm :)16:18
sittermake it bigger? ;)16:19
ScottKI saw the headline "Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 404" and my first thought was the newsletter was missing.16:28
Riddell:)16:28
Riddellsgclark: plasma-workspace uploaded with prison and libqalculate added16:38
Riddellsgclark: oxygen is fine, we don't build oxygen_kwin_deco now but the translations are still included and installed16:48
Riddellthere's no easy way to add that to not-installed because the wildcard doesn't work there16:48
Riddellsgclark: kwin symbols still need some sorting?  otherwise fine to upload16:52
sgclarkRiddell: kwin is fine now17:04
sgclarkRiddell: me upload or you?17:04
ovidiu-florinhttp://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/ quick feedback please17:08
ovidiu-florinignore the menu on the top17:08
QuintasanToo plain I guess.17:08
QuintasanAnd too big17:09
shadeslayerwho wants to backport KF5 to utopic!17:09
ovidiu-florinI mean ignore how many there are17:09
shadeslayerI'll buy them beer at Akademy :p17:09
QuintasanJesus christ, I don't even know how our kf5 packaging works17:09
QuintasanI feel so useless17:10
shadeslayermagic and unicorns17:10
Quintasanshadeslayer: Akademy is in July?17:10
shadeslayerQuintasan: don't worry, rails will fix that :D17:10
shadeslayerI think so17:10
Quintasan>rails17:10
Quintasanlol17:10
shadeslayerxD17:10
QuintasanHow is that even relevant17:10
QuintasanI can hopefully attend.17:10
shadeslayerhehe17:10
QuintasanWe use CI for KF5 right?17:10
shadeslayerhttps://errors.ubuntu.com/?user=kubuntu-bugs&period=month17:10
shadeslayerfunsies17:10
shadeslayerQuintasan: yes and no17:10
Riddellsgclark: go ahead17:11
Quintasanerr17:11
shadeslayerQuintasan: we're building master branches of all KF5 and Plasma17:11
Quintasanshadeslayer: I'm not going to like the detailed answer to that, right?17:11
shadeslayerbut releases still happen to be built from tars17:11
QuintasanOh, so that's not really different17:11
shadeslayerwell17:11
shadeslayertranslations and shite17:11
QuintasanWith the exception of PN being dead17:11
Riddellovidiu-florin: another all new website? are you wanting to supplant bukai's one at http://test2.kubuntu.co.uk/wordpress/ ?17:12
shadeslayerMe and Mr. Sitter need to write tooling so that CI adds translations17:12
shadeslayermight actually be easier for my CI since I already use tars to build stuff17:12
shadeslayerQuintasan: oh did I tell you, we have PN for Debian now17:12
shadeslayersorta17:12
QuintasanYou didn't but I've seen that17:12
shadeslayerheh17:12
shadeslayer:317:12
shadeslayerhttps://errors.ubuntu.com/?user=kubuntu-bugs&period=month17:12
shadeslayeroh I already pasted that17:13
shadeslayerboogs ^^17:13
shadeslayerin case anyone cares17:13
ovidiu-florinRiddell: so are we sticking with that theme?17:13
* Quintasan is going to throw his own into the fray17:14
shadeslayerQuintasan: anyway, at some point in the future, we're going to hit buttons on the CI and it'll upload a release to launchpad or whatever17:14
QuintasanSo no more tarballs?17:14
ovidiu-florinjose: ping17:14
shadeslayerQuintasan: no, it'll fetch tars from download.kde.org and upload them to launchpad17:15
shadeslayerbut for now it's all done by hand17:15
shadeslayerdown to 4 failing jobs \o/ : http://dci.pangea.pub/job/frameworks/view/Failing/17:15
shadeslayerI'm awesome17:15
ovidiu-florinRiddell: I remember us havin a discution about that theme at FOSDEM17:15
Riddellovidiu-florin: someone needs to take the lead in finishing off whatever needs done, it seems a shame for bukai to have done lots of work and it not be used but mostly it needs someone to work out what to do and do it 17:15
sgclarkshadeslayer: did you find someone for kf5 backport?17:18
shadeslayersgclark: no17:18
_Groo_hi guys17:18
shadeslayerthat beer is waiting for someone to drink it17:18
sgclarkshadeslayer: i'll do ti17:18
shadeslayersgclark: thanks!17:19
_Groo_what happened to ksysguardd in ci?17:19
sgclarkn, look forward to the beer :)17:19
shadeslayersgclark: basically, we got a SRU exception for KF5, so that we can backport it to the release17:19
_Groo_its broken aparently17:19
sgclarkok17:19
shadeslayer*the last stable release17:19
shadeslayersgclark: so kind of sad that we have 5.7 in 15.04 but 5.3 in 14.10 : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/karchive17:19
sgclarkeek17:20
shadeslayerRiddell: ^^ where do we land SRU's ?17:20
shadeslayerstaging, updates and then SRU seems like the right flow17:20
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Riddellshadeslayer: I agree17:23
shadeslayersgclark: right so, upload first backport here : https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging17:23
shadeslayerthen move to Kubuntu updates https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa17:23
shadeslayerand then if people don't complain in 2-3 days, just upload for SRU17:23
shadeslayerI'm not even sure if we have a  upgrade path from 5.3 to 5.717:24
shadeslayerI sure hope so17:24
Riddellworth testing17:24
Riddellincase of overlapping files17:24
shadeslayersgclark: ^^17:24
Riddells/worth/needs/ :)17:25
kubotuRiddell: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"17:25
sgclarkRiddell: shadeslayer okies17:34
Riddellovidiu-florin: so are you wanting to finish off the new kubuntu website for 15.04 and are you wanting to use bukai's work or ignore it?17:35
ovidiu-florinone moment17:35
ovidiu-florinso17:37
ovidiu-florinI want the site up and running by 15.0417:37
Riddellgreat :)17:38
ovidiu-florinI'll organize a Kubuntu sprint on wednesday with a friend (or a few)17:38
ovidiu-florinand take a look into bukai's theme17:38
Riddellooh?17:38
ovidiu-florinreview it17:38
ovidiu-florinand see what needs to be done17:39
ovidiu-florinand hopefully convice a friend to maintain it17:39
Riddellsounds like a plan17:39
ovidiu-florinI'll blog post about it (if it happens)17:39
ovidiu-florinand if I can't find a maintainer for that theme, I wouldn't risc using it17:40
ovidiu-florinRiddell: I'll also make a web conference on Jitsi, please attent if you can, durring that sprint17:41
ovidiu-florinanyone can join in17:41
ovidiu-florinwe'll talk mostly in romaninan, but will translate or switch to english if someone joins17:41
Riddellovidiu-florin: sounds impressive17:41
Riddellwhat time/day?17:41
shadeslayerok, I'm off17:44
shadeslayercya tomorrow17:44
ovidiu-florinat around 19 Romania time, when I get home from work17:44
seaLneRiddell: ovidiu-florin i plan to get akademy stuff from http://www.freewear.org/ this year17:52
seaLnei normally use them when in spain17:52
seaLnealways been happy with them17:54
ovidiu-florinhttps://trello.com/c/ul4P3WfT/9-server-stuff17:55
kubotu[Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: Server stuff ++ OB, JAR]17:55
ovidiu-florinseaLne: ask them to update the Konqi picture17:56
ovidiu-florinseaLne: nice products17:58
ovidiu-florinare they located in spain?17:58
seaLneyeah17:58
seaLnethink it is almost entirely the one guy that runs it17:58
seaLnethe stuff on their website is a bit old and generic though17:59
seaLnedesign wise i mean17:59
sgclarkRiddell: I sent you some .dsc that need to be signed, I do not yet have the rights to upload. have to run out for a feww, bbl18:20
ovidiu-florinhttp://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/azE8V9b_700b.jpg18:20
ScottKsgclark: What don't you have the rights to upload?  Let's fix that.18:21
Riddellsgclark: nothing in my e-mail18:23
ScottKRiddell: If you add any packages sgclark can't upload and then give me a ping, with my DMB hat on I can run the packageset update script and that should be enough to get her permissions.18:27
_Groo_Riddell: hi riddell are you there?18:31
_Groo_Riddell: could you rebuild ksysguard in ci with the new 7 libs? ksysguard is still using 6 version and its broken right now18:32
Riddell_Groo_: I asked it to build now http://kci.pangea.pub/view/vivid_unstable/job/vivid_unstable_ksysguard/18:35
Riddellhopefully that'll do the right thing18:35
_Groo_Riddell: tks :)18:42
_Groo_theres also a problem with kwin18:42
_Groo_lets see if its ksysguard related18:43
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_Groo_could someone take a look at the newly build ksysguard at ci19:02
_Groo_its still pointing to the wrong libs19:02
_Groo_https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/8UcdlC6o19:02
_Groo_it should be libksgrd7, libksignalplotter7 and so on19:03
_Groo_still conflicts with the new libs19:03
ScottKRiddell: I got a mail from sgclark on the missing permissions.  I'll fix it.19:10
sgclarkScottK: thank you19:34
ScottKStill working on it.19:35
sgclarknp19:35
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ScottKplasma-workspace-wallpapers fixed.20:29
ScottKSomething went awry with oxygen-qt4.20:29
sgclarkok20:29
debfxI wish the language kcm would set LC_MESSAGES. Different language and regional setting is somewhat broken right now.20:32
QuintasanScottK: Do you remember at which UDS Harald decided to dress up Plasma as Unity and post it to identi.ca saying we switched to Unity?20:34
ScottKI don't.20:34
ScottKIt was probably the first one where Canonical introduced Unity since it's easy to do.20:35
QuintasanGotta ask the man himself probably.20:35
ScottKsgclark: oxygen-qt4 should be fixed now too.22:09
sgclarkScottK: thanks :)22:22
sgclarkshadeslayer: kf5 frameworks backport uploaded to next-staging. I will keep an eye on the builds22:28
shadeslayercheers22:28

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