[06:46] <Mirv> ScottK: looks ok, I'll wait for sitter's patches and then start landing.
[07:27] <soee> good morning
[08:46] <sitter> Mirv: sorry, I totally forgot to commit the patches on friday ->  https://code.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/kubuntu-packaging/qtbase-opensource-src-netrunner15/+merge/250586
[09:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:21] <soee> Riddell: ping me when you have a moment
[09:28] <Mirv> sitter: thanks!
[09:28] <Mirv> sitter: conflicting, though, like it shows on that page, since scott pushed some directly :) not hard to fix though
[09:34] <Riddell> hi soee 
[09:37] <soee> Riddell: how do you like simplified website design like they have here: https://www.apple.com/pl/osx/ where we have several sections with big image and a bit of text ?
[09:55] <sitter> Riddell: libksysguard master just bumped the soversion a second time in the 5.3 cycle, you might want to have a chat with the dev to only bump once per cycle regardless of how many BIC there are?
[09:57] <Riddell> mm ok
[09:58] <Riddell> soee: I like it a lot, it's quite a fashionable style currently and it's how the test.kubuntu.co.uk website is
[09:58] <Riddell> hi sebas, get home ok?
[09:58] <sitter> Riddell: oh and don't make him revert the bump now, I am already changing all the versions in the packaging
[09:58]  * sitter actually wonders why we can't simply have a substvar for soversion >.<
[09:59] <sebas> Riddell: safe and sound :)
[09:59] <Riddell> Gregor Mi, I don't know the guy
[10:02] <soee> Riddell: cool because i want to do the promo site with the same style, simple, a lot of images to show system and its apps etc. 
[10:02] <soee> so my previous concept changed a bit :-)
[10:18] <sitter> Mirv: thanks <3
[10:19] <Mirv> I think I can mark that qtbase landing "desktop only" since it's only xcb+qwidget... and not go through the complete testing
[12:14] <soee> kded5 gone mad again :<
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:22] <lordievader> soee: ping
[13:29] <soee> lordievader: pong
[13:29] <lordievader> soee: You use activities in Vivid, right?
[13:29] <soee> lordievader: nope, they are broken atm.
[13:30] <lordievader> Hmm, here they work. But super + tab to switch is broken.
[13:31] <soee> lordievader: my bug report @ activities https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343630
[13:31] <soee> lordievader: whats wrong with the shortcut ? i think thers no such shortcut atm. like was in KDE4
[13:32] <soee> lordievader: you can only create shortcuts to each activity, but you cant switch prev/next atm.
[13:32] <lordievader> There is here, but it does nothing.
[13:34] <soee> lordievader: i hope my problem will be fixed when Scarlett finish work on 5.2.1 :)
[13:38] <lordievader> :D
[13:52] <sgclark> morning
[13:54] <lordievader> Hey sgclark
[13:55] <soee> hiho
[14:04] <soee> sgclark: any chance to have 5.2.1 today ? :)
[14:07] <sgclark> soee: sure hope so.. had to put them in ninjas due to rejects. was up late last night doing so, just need some coffee...
[14:08] <soee> sgclark: cool, ping me if ready for tests
[14:08] <sgclark> will do
[14:09] <sgclark> good news is all compiled, looks like a few new symbols is all I need to do
[14:09] <Riddell> thanks sgclark :)
[14:10] <ovidiu-florin> Hello world
[14:10] <Riddell> sgclark: and muon translations
[14:10] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin 
[14:11] <sgclark> yeah just saw that
[14:11] <ovidiu-florin> I'm restarting the apache server on the docs server in 10 minutes. Please let me know if I need to postpone
[14:12] <Riddell> mgraesslin: should we also package a snapshot of libprison for klipper barcodes in plasma 5.2?
[14:12] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: what exciting things are you working on?
[14:12] <ovidiu-florin> Can't tell you
[14:12] <ovidiu-florin> it's a state secret :P
[14:12] <Riddell> gosh
[14:12] <mgraesslin> Riddell: from Klipper point of view: yes, please. From prison point of view: please ask Sune as well
[14:13] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: thank you for the domains
[14:15] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: speaking of state secrets my brother is playing the dark tourist and going to see the surpringly modest grave of Nicolae Ceausescu http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/10940997_10155251992710187_7116699301856337803_n.jpg
[14:16] <Riddell> sgclark, sitter, anyone: anyone remember why we don't build-dep plasma-desktop against qalculate?
[14:16] <ovidiu-florin> I sense a hint of sarcasm when you say modest
[14:17] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: the grave looks pretty modest, certainly in comparison to that nutty palace in the capital
[14:17] <ovidiu-florin> nutty?
[14:17] <sitter> Riddell: because we have no qt5 qalculate
[14:17] <sgclark> Riddell: I have no clue on that
[14:18] <Riddell> I'm being polite
[14:19] <ovidiu-florin> nutty? http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/happytreefriends/images/4/4e/Nutty.jpg/revision/20101023225706
[14:19] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: yeah, a bit crazy
[14:22] <ovidiu-florin> restarting Apache
[14:23]  * Riddell holds breath
[14:23] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: you know you don't have to restart it if you change the config, you can just reload it?
[14:23] <Riddell> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[14:23] <Riddell> should work
[14:23] <ovidiu-florin> KABOOOM: http://kubdrup.kubuntu.co.uk/
[14:23] <ovidiu-florin> Kubuntu site clone
[14:23] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I know
[14:23] <Riddell> gosh
[14:24] <ovidiu-florin> but In case something went wrong, I've thought it's would be better to let you know
[14:24] <ovidiu-florin> with errors on the new page
[14:24] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: who's the decapitated dude from the T-shirts picture?
[14:24] <ovidiu-florin> http://kubdrup.kubuntu.co.uk/news/kubuntu-shirts
[14:26] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: stock photo stolen from suppliers at https://www.hellotux.com/
[14:27] <ovidiu-florin> oh, any other news about the T-shirts I made?
[14:27] <ovidiu-florin> Good, bad, ungly?
[14:29] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: good but I think the comments were too white
[14:29] <ovidiu-florin> we can change the color
[14:29] <Riddell> some people said they wouldn't wear or buy a white t-shirt except for use under something else
[14:29] <ovidiu-florin> I just want to know if we will collaborate with these guys in the future
[14:30] <Riddell> we being me, I'm happy to if I end up organising t-shirts next fosdem
[14:30] <Riddell> you'd need to ask seaLne if you wanted to suggest the same for akademy
[14:31] <Riddell> but aye, all worked great as far as I'm concerned thanks very much for sorting
[14:32] <ovidiu-florin> I'll ask the guys to make ma an offer of KDE goodies of all sorts
[14:32] <ovidiu-florin> and see where we get
[14:36] <sgclark> Riddell: PackageKitQt5 ? don't see it
[14:38] <Riddell> sgclark: ignore for now, I think it's only needed for kicker (the alternative menu) doing automatic app install
[14:38] <Riddell> and packagekit is a nightmare to package (ironic you might say)
[14:38] <sgclark> lol k
[14:38] <Riddell> and I was told it would use muon by now anyway or something
[14:41] <sgclark> hmm odd, oxygen_kwin_deco translations are in the install file but showing as list-missing..
[14:42] <Riddell> hi manchicken, did you get a chance to look into muon?
[14:43] <manchicken> Not yet. I've forgotten what we're looking into... qt5 port?
[14:43] <manchicken> I've spent a lot of time traveling and then on the road lately with my dad.
[14:44] <Riddell> manchicken: I think I saw a film about that once, were you traveling in a lawn mower?
[14:44] <Riddell> manchicken: the main issue is working out what needs to be done to get the release upgrade notifications working
[14:45] <manchicken> Hah!
[14:45] <manchicken> Gotcha.
[14:45] <manchicken> Is there a test plan for that already which is failing?
[14:46] <Riddell> manchicken: nope, it would need making one
[14:46] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell manchicken are you planning to code something in muon Discover?
[14:46] <Riddell> manchicken: it needs installing vivid then convincing it that vivid+1 is released to see if there's notification
[14:46] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: hopefully not, I believe the notification is in but not in the 5.2 branch
[14:46] <manchicken> ovidiu-florin: muon-notifier is what I thought we were playing with.
[14:46] <ovidiu-florin> I want to change something in Discover
[14:47] <ovidiu-florin> fix the tasking system
[14:47] <Riddell> manchicken: both notifier and discover I think have the notifications
[14:47] <ovidiu-florin> add some scrolls, a better progress bar
[14:47] <ovidiu-florin> a cancel button
[14:49] <manchicken> Okay, I don't think we'll be playing in the same space.
[14:49] <ovidiu-florin> oh, ok
[15:20] <Riddell> ScottK: I take it I need a FFe to add libprison to klipper plasma5 (it hasn't been used in plasma5 before but it had in plasma4)
[15:22] <ScottK> Riddell: yes, but consider this your IRC FFe approval and go forth.
[15:23] <sgclark> Riddell: all done except I am quite perplexed on the oxygen translation files... it is listed in the .install file...
[15:24] <Riddell> ScottK: pleasingly beurocratic free :)
[15:25] <Riddell> sgclark: ok I'll look in a minute
[16:04] <Riddell> sitter: all new frameworks for ci loving http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/prison.git/
[16:05] <sitter> Riddell: make a kubunt_unstable branch please
[16:05] <sitter> *kubuntu_unstable
[16:06] <Riddell> sitter: voila
[16:08]  * sitter runs script
[16:09] <ovidiu-florin> jose: ping
[16:11] <sitter> Riddell: what's the upstream branch for that?
[16:11] <sitter> master?
[16:13] <Riddell> sitter: frameworks
[16:13] <sitter> meh
[16:16] <Riddell> sitter: and you're wrong about qalculate, it's a c++ library no qt around, it just needs a build-dep on glib-2.0 for plasma-workspace to find it
[16:16] <sitter> oh
[16:17] <sitter> fancy name then xD
[16:18] <Riddell> sitter: release upgrade seems to work with your qt5 version but I keep running out of disk space so can't really confirm :)
[16:19] <sitter> make it bigger? ;)
[16:28] <ScottK> I saw the headline "Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 404" and my first thought was the newsletter was missing.
[16:28] <Riddell> :)
[16:38] <Riddell> sgclark: plasma-workspace uploaded with prison and libqalculate added
[16:48] <Riddell> sgclark: oxygen is fine, we don't build oxygen_kwin_deco now but the translations are still included and installed
[16:48] <Riddell> there's no easy way to add that to not-installed because the wildcard doesn't work there
[16:52] <Riddell> sgclark: kwin symbols still need some sorting?  otherwise fine to upload
[17:04] <sgclark> Riddell: kwin is fine now
[17:04] <sgclark> Riddell: me upload or you?
[17:08] <ovidiu-florin> http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/ quick feedback please
[17:08] <ovidiu-florin> ignore the menu on the top
[17:08] <Quintasan> Too plain I guess.
[17:09] <Quintasan> And too big
[17:09] <shadeslayer> who wants to backport KF5 to utopic!
[17:09] <ovidiu-florin> I mean ignore how many there are
[17:09] <shadeslayer> I'll buy them beer at Akademy :p
[17:09] <Quintasan> Jesus christ, I don't even know how our kf5 packaging works
[17:10] <Quintasan> I feel so useless
[17:10] <shadeslayer> magic and unicorns
[17:10] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Akademy is in July?
[17:10] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: don't worry, rails will fix that :D
[17:10] <shadeslayer> I think so
[17:10] <Quintasan> >rails
[17:10] <Quintasan> lol
[17:10] <shadeslayer> xD
[17:10] <Quintasan> How is that even relevant
[17:10] <Quintasan> I can hopefully attend.
[17:10] <shadeslayer> hehe
[17:10] <Quintasan> We use CI for KF5 right?
[17:10] <shadeslayer> https://errors.ubuntu.com/?user=kubuntu-bugs&period=month
[17:10] <shadeslayer> funsies
[17:10] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yes and no
[17:11] <Riddell> sgclark: go ahead
[17:11] <Quintasan> err
[17:11] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: we're building master branches of all KF5 and Plasma
[17:11] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I'm not going to like the detailed answer to that, right?
[17:11] <shadeslayer> but releases still happen to be built from tars
[17:11] <Quintasan> Oh, so that's not really different
[17:11] <shadeslayer> well
[17:11] <shadeslayer> translations and shite
[17:11] <Quintasan> With the exception of PN being dead
[17:12] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: another all new website? are you wanting to supplant bukai's one at http://test2.kubuntu.co.uk/wordpress/ ?
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Me and Mr. Sitter need to write tooling so that CI adds translations
[17:12] <shadeslayer> might actually be easier for my CI since I already use tars to build stuff
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: oh did I tell you, we have PN for Debian now
[17:12] <shadeslayer> sorta
[17:12] <Quintasan> You didn't but I've seen that
[17:12] <shadeslayer> heh
[17:12] <shadeslayer> :3
[17:12] <shadeslayer> https://errors.ubuntu.com/?user=kubuntu-bugs&period=month
[17:13] <shadeslayer> oh I already pasted that
[17:13] <shadeslayer> boogs ^^
[17:13] <shadeslayer> in case anyone cares
[17:13] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: so are we sticking with that theme?
[17:14]  * Quintasan is going to throw his own into the fray
[17:14] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: anyway, at some point in the future, we're going to hit buttons on the CI and it'll upload a release to launchpad or whatever
[17:14] <Quintasan> So no more tarballs?
[17:14] <ovidiu-florin> jose: ping
[17:15] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: no, it'll fetch tars from download.kde.org and upload them to launchpad
[17:15] <shadeslayer> but for now it's all done by hand
[17:15] <shadeslayer> down to 4 failing jobs \o/ : http://dci.pangea.pub/job/frameworks/view/Failing/
[17:15] <shadeslayer> I'm awesome
[17:15] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I remember us havin a discution about that theme at FOSDEM
[17:15] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: someone needs to take the lead in finishing off whatever needs done, it seems a shame for bukai to have done lots of work and it not be used but mostly it needs someone to work out what to do and do it 
[17:18] <sgclark> shadeslayer: did you find someone for kf5 backport?
[17:18] <shadeslayer> sgclark: no
[17:18] <_Groo_> hi guys
[17:18] <shadeslayer> that beer is waiting for someone to drink it
[17:18] <sgclark> shadeslayer: i'll do ti
[17:19] <shadeslayer> sgclark: thanks!
[17:19] <_Groo_> what happened to ksysguardd in ci?
[17:19] <sgclark> n, look forward to the beer :)
[17:19] <shadeslayer> sgclark: basically, we got a SRU exception for KF5, so that we can backport it to the release
[17:19] <_Groo_> its broken aparently
[17:19] <sgclark> ok
[17:19] <shadeslayer> *the last stable release
[17:19] <shadeslayer> sgclark: so kind of sad that we have 5.7 in 15.04 but 5.3 in 14.10 : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/karchive
[17:20] <sgclark> eek
[17:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^ where do we land SRU's ?
[17:20] <shadeslayer> staging, updates and then SRU seems like the right flow
[17:23] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I agree
[17:23] <shadeslayer> sgclark: right so, upload first backport here : https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging
[17:23] <shadeslayer> then move to Kubuntu updates https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:23] <shadeslayer> and then if people don't complain in 2-3 days, just upload for SRU
[17:24] <shadeslayer> I'm not even sure if we have a  upgrade path from 5.3 to 5.7
[17:24] <shadeslayer> I sure hope so
[17:24] <Riddell> worth testing
[17:24] <Riddell> incase of overlapping files
[17:24] <shadeslayer> sgclark: ^^
[17:25] <Riddell> s/worth/needs/ :)
[17:25] <kubotu> Riddell: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[17:34] <sgclark> Riddell: shadeslayer okies
[17:35] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: so are you wanting to finish off the new kubuntu website for 15.04 and are you wanting to use bukai's work or ignore it?
[17:35] <ovidiu-florin> one moment
[17:37] <ovidiu-florin> so
[17:37] <ovidiu-florin> I want the site up and running by 15.04
[17:38] <Riddell> great :)
[17:38] <ovidiu-florin> I'll organize a Kubuntu sprint on wednesday with a friend (or a few)
[17:38] <ovidiu-florin> and take a look into bukai's theme
[17:38] <Riddell> ooh?
[17:38] <ovidiu-florin> review it
[17:39] <ovidiu-florin> and see what needs to be done
[17:39] <ovidiu-florin> and hopefully convice a friend to maintain it
[17:39] <Riddell> sounds like a plan
[17:39] <ovidiu-florin> I'll blog post about it (if it happens)
[17:40] <ovidiu-florin> and if I can't find a maintainer for that theme, I wouldn't risc using it
[17:41] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I'll also make a web conference on Jitsi, please attent if you can, durring that sprint
[17:41] <ovidiu-florin> anyone can join in
[17:41] <ovidiu-florin> we'll talk mostly in romaninan, but will translate or switch to english if someone joins
[17:41] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: sounds impressive
[17:41] <Riddell> what time/day?
[17:44] <shadeslayer> ok, I'm off
[17:44] <shadeslayer> cya tomorrow
[17:44] <ovidiu-florin> at around 19 Romania time, when I get home from work
[17:52] <seaLne> Riddell: ovidiu-florin i plan to get akademy stuff from http://www.freewear.org/ this year
[17:52] <seaLne> i normally use them when in spain
[17:54] <seaLne> always been happy with them
[17:55] <ovidiu-florin> https://trello.com/c/ul4P3WfT/9-server-stuff
[17:55] <kubotu> [Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: Server stuff ++ OB, JAR]
[17:56] <ovidiu-florin> seaLne: ask them to update the Konqi picture
[17:58] <ovidiu-florin> seaLne: nice products
[17:58] <ovidiu-florin> are they located in spain?
[17:58] <seaLne> yeah
[17:58] <seaLne> think it is almost entirely the one guy that runs it
[17:59] <seaLne> the stuff on their website is a bit old and generic though
[17:59] <seaLne> design wise i mean
[18:20] <sgclark> Riddell: I sent you some .dsc that need to be signed, I do not yet have the rights to upload. have to run out for a feww, bbl
[18:20] <ovidiu-florin> http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/azE8V9b_700b.jpg
[18:21] <ScottK> sgclark: What don't you have the rights to upload?  Let's fix that.
[18:23] <Riddell> sgclark: nothing in my e-mail
[18:27] <ScottK> Riddell: If you add any packages sgclark can't upload and then give me a ping, with my DMB hat on I can run the packageset update script and that should be enough to get her permissions.
[18:31] <_Groo_> Riddell: hi riddell are you there?
[18:32] <_Groo_> Riddell: could you rebuild ksysguard in ci with the new 7 libs? ksysguard is still using 6 version and its broken right now
[18:35] <Riddell> _Groo_: I asked it to build now http://kci.pangea.pub/view/vivid_unstable/job/vivid_unstable_ksysguard/
[18:35] <Riddell> hopefully that'll do the right thing
[18:42] <_Groo_> Riddell: tks :)
[18:42] <_Groo_> theres also a problem with kwin
[18:43] <_Groo_> lets see if its ksysguard related
[18:44]  * Riddell out
[18:50]  * soee in
[19:02] <_Groo_> could someone take a look at the newly build ksysguard at ci
[19:02] <_Groo_> its still pointing to the wrong libs
[19:02] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/8UcdlC6o
[19:03] <_Groo_> it should be libksgrd7, libksignalplotter7 and so on
[19:03] <_Groo_> still conflicts with the new libs
[19:10] <ScottK> Riddell: I got a mail from sgclark on the missing permissions.  I'll fix it.
[19:34] <sgclark> ScottK: thank you
[19:35] <ScottK> Still working on it.
[19:35] <sgclark> np
[20:29] <ScottK> plasma-workspace-wallpapers fixed.
[20:29] <ScottK> Something went awry with oxygen-qt4.
[20:29] <sgclark> ok
[20:32] <debfx> I wish the language kcm would set LC_MESSAGES. Different language and regional setting is somewhat broken right now.
[20:34] <Quintasan> ScottK: Do you remember at which UDS Harald decided to dress up Plasma as Unity and post it to identi.ca saying we switched to Unity?
[20:34] <ScottK> I don't.
[20:35] <ScottK> It was probably the first one where Canonical introduced Unity since it's easy to do.
[20:35] <Quintasan> Gotta ask the man himself probably.
[22:09] <ScottK> sgclark: oxygen-qt4 should be fixed now too.
[22:22] <sgclark> ScottK: thanks :)
[22:28] <sgclark> shadeslayer: kf5 frameworks backport uploaded to next-staging. I will keep an eye on the builds
[22:28] <shadeslayer> cheers