=== Guest33721 is now known as benonsoftware === benonsoftware is now known as Guest48867 === Guest48867 is now known as benonsoftware [06:46] ScottK: looks ok, I'll wait for sitter's patches and then start landing. [07:27] good morning [08:46] Mirv: sorry, I totally forgot to commit the patches on friday -> https://code.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/kubuntu-packaging/qtbase-opensource-src-netrunner15/+merge/250586 [09:01] Good morning. [09:21] Riddell: ping me when you have a moment [09:28] sitter: thanks! [09:28] sitter: conflicting, though, like it shows on that page, since scott pushed some directly :) not hard to fix though [09:34] hi soee [09:37] Riddell: how do you like simplified website design like they have here: https://www.apple.com/pl/osx/ where we have several sections with big image and a bit of text ? [09:55] Riddell: libksysguard master just bumped the soversion a second time in the 5.3 cycle, you might want to have a chat with the dev to only bump once per cycle regardless of how many BIC there are? [09:57] mm ok [09:58] soee: I like it a lot, it's quite a fashionable style currently and it's how the test.kubuntu.co.uk website is [09:58] hi sebas, get home ok? [09:58] Riddell: oh and don't make him revert the bump now, I am already changing all the versions in the packaging [09:58] * sitter actually wonders why we can't simply have a substvar for soversion >.< [09:59] Riddell: safe and sound :) [09:59] Gregor Mi, I don't know the guy [10:02] Riddell: cool because i want to do the promo site with the same style, simple, a lot of images to show system and its apps etc. [10:02] so my previous concept changed a bit :-) [10:18] Mirv: thanks <3 [10:19] I think I can mark that qtbase landing "desktop only" since it's only xcb+qwidget... and not go through the complete testing === kbroulik is now known as kbroulik-lunch [12:14] kded5 gone mad again :< [12:40] Howdy all === kbroulik-lunch is now known as kbroulik [13:22] soee: ping [13:29] lordievader: pong [13:29] soee: You use activities in Vivid, right? [13:29] lordievader: nope, they are broken atm. [13:30] Hmm, here they work. But super + tab to switch is broken. [13:31] lordievader: my bug report @ activities https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343630 [13:31] KDE bug 343630 in Activity Switcher "Black screen after activity switch" [Major,Unconfirmed] [13:31] lordievader: whats wrong with the shortcut ? i think thers no such shortcut atm. like was in KDE4 [13:32] lordievader: you can only create shortcuts to each activity, but you cant switch prev/next atm. [13:32] There is here, but it does nothing. [13:34] lordievader: i hope my problem will be fixed when Scarlett finish work on 5.2.1 :) [13:38] :D [13:52] morning [13:54] Hey sgclark [13:55] hiho [14:04] sgclark: any chance to have 5.2.1 today ? :) [14:07] soee: sure hope so.. had to put them in ninjas due to rejects. was up late last night doing so, just need some coffee... [14:08] sgclark: cool, ping me if ready for tests [14:08] will do [14:09] good news is all compiled, looks like a few new symbols is all I need to do [14:09] thanks sgclark :) [14:10] Hello world [14:10] sgclark: and muon translations [14:10] hi ovidiu-florin [14:11] yeah just saw that [14:11] I'm restarting the apache server on the docs server in 10 minutes. Please let me know if I need to postpone [14:12] mgraesslin: should we also package a snapshot of libprison for klipper barcodes in plasma 5.2? [14:12] ovidiu-florin: what exciting things are you working on? [14:12] Can't tell you [14:12] it's a state secret :P [14:12] gosh [14:12] Riddell: from Klipper point of view: yes, please. From prison point of view: please ask Sune as well [14:13] Riddell: thank you for the domains [14:15] ovidiu-florin: speaking of state secrets my brother is playing the dark tourist and going to see the surpringly modest grave of Nicolae Ceausescu http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/10940997_10155251992710187_7116699301856337803_n.jpg [14:16] sgclark, sitter, anyone: anyone remember why we don't build-dep plasma-desktop against qalculate? [14:16] I sense a hint of sarcasm when you say modest [14:17] ovidiu-florin: the grave looks pretty modest, certainly in comparison to that nutty palace in the capital [14:17] nutty? [14:17] Riddell: because we have no qt5 qalculate [14:17] Riddell: I have no clue on that [14:18] I'm being polite [14:19] nutty? http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/happytreefriends/images/4/4e/Nutty.jpg/revision/20101023225706 [14:19] ovidiu-florin: yeah, a bit crazy [14:22] restarting Apache [14:23] * Riddell holds breath [14:23] ovidiu-florin: you know you don't have to restart it if you change the config, you can just reload it? [14:23] sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload [14:23] should work [14:23] KABOOOM: http://kubdrup.kubuntu.co.uk/ [14:23] Kubuntu site clone [14:23] Riddell: I know [14:23] gosh [14:24] but In case something went wrong, I've thought it's would be better to let you know [14:24] with errors on the new page [14:24] Riddell: who's the decapitated dude from the T-shirts picture? [14:24] http://kubdrup.kubuntu.co.uk/news/kubuntu-shirts [14:26] ovidiu-florin: stock photo stolen from suppliers at https://www.hellotux.com/ [14:27] oh, any other news about the T-shirts I made? [14:27] Good, bad, ungly? [14:29] ovidiu-florin: good but I think the comments were too white [14:29] we can change the color [14:29] some people said they wouldn't wear or buy a white t-shirt except for use under something else [14:29] I just want to know if we will collaborate with these guys in the future [14:30] we being me, I'm happy to if I end up organising t-shirts next fosdem [14:30] you'd need to ask seaLne if you wanted to suggest the same for akademy [14:31] but aye, all worked great as far as I'm concerned thanks very much for sorting [14:32] I'll ask the guys to make ma an offer of KDE goodies of all sorts [14:32] and see where we get [14:36] Riddell: PackageKitQt5 ? don't see it [14:38] sgclark: ignore for now, I think it's only needed for kicker (the alternative menu) doing automatic app install [14:38] and packagekit is a nightmare to package (ironic you might say) [14:38] lol k [14:38] and I was told it would use muon by now anyway or something [14:41] hmm odd, oxygen_kwin_deco translations are in the install file but showing as list-missing.. [14:42] hi manchicken, did you get a chance to look into muon? [14:43] Not yet. I've forgotten what we're looking into... qt5 port? [14:43] I've spent a lot of time traveling and then on the road lately with my dad. [14:44] manchicken: I think I saw a film about that once, were you traveling in a lawn mower? [14:44] manchicken: the main issue is working out what needs to be done to get the release upgrade notifications working [14:45] Hah! [14:45] Gotcha. [14:45] Is there a test plan for that already which is failing? [14:46] manchicken: nope, it would need making one [14:46] Riddell manchicken are you planning to code something in muon Discover? [14:46] manchicken: it needs installing vivid then convincing it that vivid+1 is released to see if there's notification [14:46] ovidiu-florin: hopefully not, I believe the notification is in but not in the 5.2 branch [14:46] ovidiu-florin: muon-notifier is what I thought we were playing with. [14:46] I want to change something in Discover [14:47] fix the tasking system [14:47] manchicken: both notifier and discover I think have the notifications [14:47] add some scrolls, a better progress bar [14:47] a cancel button [14:49] Okay, I don't think we'll be playing in the same space. [14:49] oh, ok [15:20] ScottK: I take it I need a FFe to add libprison to klipper plasma5 (it hasn't been used in plasma5 before but it had in plasma4) [15:22] Riddell: yes, but consider this your IRC FFe approval and go forth. [15:23] Riddell: all done except I am quite perplexed on the oxygen translation files... it is listed in the .install file... [15:24] ScottK: pleasingly beurocratic free :) [15:25] sgclark: ok I'll look in a minute [16:04] sitter: all new frameworks for ci loving http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/prison.git/ [16:05] Riddell: make a kubunt_unstable branch please [16:05] *kubuntu_unstable [16:06] sitter: voila [16:08] * sitter runs script [16:09] jose: ping [16:11] Riddell: what's the upstream branch for that? [16:11] master? [16:13] sitter: frameworks [16:13] meh [16:16] sitter: and you're wrong about qalculate, it's a c++ library no qt around, it just needs a build-dep on glib-2.0 for plasma-workspace to find it [16:16] oh [16:17] fancy name then xD [16:18] sitter: release upgrade seems to work with your qt5 version but I keep running out of disk space so can't really confirm :) [16:19] make it bigger? ;) [16:28] I saw the headline "Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 404" and my first thought was the newsletter was missing. [16:28] :) [16:38] sgclark: plasma-workspace uploaded with prison and libqalculate added [16:48] sgclark: oxygen is fine, we don't build oxygen_kwin_deco now but the translations are still included and installed [16:48] there's no easy way to add that to not-installed because the wildcard doesn't work there [16:52] sgclark: kwin symbols still need some sorting? otherwise fine to upload [17:04] Riddell: kwin is fine now [17:04] Riddell: me upload or you? [17:08] http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/ quick feedback please [17:08] ignore the menu on the top [17:08] Too plain I guess. [17:09] And too big [17:09] who wants to backport KF5 to utopic! [17:09] I mean ignore how many there are [17:09] I'll buy them beer at Akademy :p [17:09] Jesus christ, I don't even know how our kf5 packaging works [17:10] I feel so useless [17:10] magic and unicorns [17:10] shadeslayer: Akademy is in July? [17:10] Quintasan: don't worry, rails will fix that :D [17:10] I think so [17:10] >rails [17:10] lol [17:10] xD [17:10] How is that even relevant [17:10] I can hopefully attend. [17:10] hehe [17:10] We use CI for KF5 right? [17:10] https://errors.ubuntu.com/?user=kubuntu-bugs&period=month [17:10] funsies [17:10] Quintasan: yes and no [17:11] sgclark: go ahead [17:11] err [17:11] Quintasan: we're building master branches of all KF5 and Plasma [17:11] shadeslayer: I'm not going to like the detailed answer to that, right? [17:11] but releases still happen to be built from tars [17:11] Oh, so that's not really different [17:11] well [17:11] translations and shite [17:11] With the exception of PN being dead [17:12] ovidiu-florin: another all new website? are you wanting to supplant bukai's one at http://test2.kubuntu.co.uk/wordpress/ ? [17:12] Me and Mr. Sitter need to write tooling so that CI adds translations [17:12] might actually be easier for my CI since I already use tars to build stuff [17:12] Quintasan: oh did I tell you, we have PN for Debian now [17:12] sorta [17:12] You didn't but I've seen that [17:12] heh [17:12] :3 [17:12] https://errors.ubuntu.com/?user=kubuntu-bugs&period=month [17:13] oh I already pasted that [17:13] boogs ^^ [17:13] in case anyone cares [17:13] Riddell: so are we sticking with that theme? [17:14] * Quintasan is going to throw his own into the fray [17:14] Quintasan: anyway, at some point in the future, we're going to hit buttons on the CI and it'll upload a release to launchpad or whatever [17:14] So no more tarballs? [17:14] jose: ping [17:15] Quintasan: no, it'll fetch tars from download.kde.org and upload them to launchpad [17:15] but for now it's all done by hand [17:15] down to 4 failing jobs \o/ : http://dci.pangea.pub/job/frameworks/view/Failing/ [17:15] I'm awesome [17:15] Riddell: I remember us havin a discution about that theme at FOSDEM [17:15] ovidiu-florin: someone needs to take the lead in finishing off whatever needs done, it seems a shame for bukai to have done lots of work and it not be used but mostly it needs someone to work out what to do and do it [17:18] shadeslayer: did you find someone for kf5 backport? [17:18] sgclark: no [17:18] <_Groo_> hi guys [17:18] that beer is waiting for someone to drink it [17:18] shadeslayer: i'll do ti [17:19] sgclark: thanks! [17:19] <_Groo_> what happened to ksysguardd in ci? [17:19] n, look forward to the beer :) [17:19] sgclark: basically, we got a SRU exception for KF5, so that we can backport it to the release [17:19] <_Groo_> its broken aparently [17:19] ok [17:19] *the last stable release [17:19] sgclark: so kind of sad that we have 5.7 in 15.04 but 5.3 in 14.10 : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/karchive [17:20] eek [17:20] Riddell: ^^ where do we land SRU's ? [17:20] staging, updates and then SRU seems like the right flow === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [17:23] shadeslayer: I agree [17:23] sgclark: right so, upload first backport here : https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging [17:23] then move to Kubuntu updates https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [17:23] and then if people don't complain in 2-3 days, just upload for SRU [17:24] I'm not even sure if we have a upgrade path from 5.3 to 5.7 [17:24] I sure hope so [17:24] worth testing [17:24] incase of overlapping files [17:24] sgclark: ^^ [17:25] s/worth/needs/ :) [17:25] Riddell: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [17:34] Riddell: shadeslayer okies [17:35] ovidiu-florin: so are you wanting to finish off the new kubuntu website for 15.04 and are you wanting to use bukai's work or ignore it? [17:35] one moment [17:37] so [17:37] I want the site up and running by 15.04 [17:38] great :) [17:38] I'll organize a Kubuntu sprint on wednesday with a friend (or a few) [17:38] and take a look into bukai's theme [17:38] ooh? [17:38] review it [17:39] and see what needs to be done [17:39] and hopefully convice a friend to maintain it [17:39] sounds like a plan [17:39] I'll blog post about it (if it happens) [17:40] and if I can't find a maintainer for that theme, I wouldn't risc using it [17:41] Riddell: I'll also make a web conference on Jitsi, please attent if you can, durring that sprint [17:41] anyone can join in [17:41] we'll talk mostly in romaninan, but will translate or switch to english if someone joins [17:41] ovidiu-florin: sounds impressive [17:41] what time/day? [17:44] ok, I'm off [17:44] cya tomorrow [17:44] at around 19 Romania time, when I get home from work [17:52] Riddell: ovidiu-florin i plan to get akademy stuff from http://www.freewear.org/ this year [17:52] i normally use them when in spain [17:54] always been happy with them [17:55] https://trello.com/c/ul4P3WfT/9-server-stuff [17:55] [Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: Server stuff ++ OB, JAR] [17:56] seaLne: ask them to update the Konqi picture [17:58] seaLne: nice products [17:58] are they located in spain? [17:58] yeah [17:58] think it is almost entirely the one guy that runs it [17:59] the stuff on their website is a bit old and generic though [17:59] design wise i mean [18:20] Riddell: I sent you some .dsc that need to be signed, I do not yet have the rights to upload. have to run out for a feww, bbl [18:20] http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/azE8V9b_700b.jpg [18:21] sgclark: What don't you have the rights to upload? Let's fix that. [18:23] sgclark: nothing in my e-mail [18:27] Riddell: If you add any packages sgclark can't upload and then give me a ping, with my DMB hat on I can run the packageset update script and that should be enough to get her permissions. [18:31] <_Groo_> Riddell: hi riddell are you there? [18:32] <_Groo_> Riddell: could you rebuild ksysguard in ci with the new 7 libs? ksysguard is still using 6 version and its broken right now [18:35] _Groo_: I asked it to build now http://kci.pangea.pub/view/vivid_unstable/job/vivid_unstable_ksysguard/ [18:35] hopefully that'll do the right thing [18:42] <_Groo_> Riddell: tks :) [18:42] <_Groo_> theres also a problem with kwin [18:43] <_Groo_> lets see if its ksysguard related [18:44] * Riddell out [18:50] * soee in === guest11233454645 is now known as Streamstormer [19:02] <_Groo_> could someone take a look at the newly build ksysguard at ci [19:02] <_Groo_> its still pointing to the wrong libs [19:02] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/8UcdlC6o [19:03] <_Groo_> it should be libksgrd7, libksignalplotter7 and so on [19:03] <_Groo_> still conflicts with the new libs [19:10] Riddell: I got a mail from sgclark on the missing permissions. I'll fix it. [19:34] ScottK: thank you [19:35] Still working on it. [19:35] np === guest123456 is now known as Streamstormer [20:29] plasma-workspace-wallpapers fixed. [20:29] Something went awry with oxygen-qt4. [20:29] ok [20:32] I wish the language kcm would set LC_MESSAGES. Different language and regional setting is somewhat broken right now. [20:34] ScottK: Do you remember at which UDS Harald decided to dress up Plasma as Unity and post it to identi.ca saying we switched to Unity? [20:34] I don't. [20:35] It was probably the first one where Canonical introduced Unity since it's easy to do. [20:35] Gotta ask the man himself probably. [22:09] sgclark: oxygen-qt4 should be fixed now too. [22:22] ScottK: thanks :) [22:28] shadeslayer: kf5 frameworks backport uploaded to next-staging. I will keep an eye on the builds [22:28] cheers