| TheMuso | robert_ancell: Do you know where software center is being maintained now? I pulled lp:software-center but see it hasn't had anything done in that branch for almost a year... | 01:05 |
|---|---|---|
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, I believe that's the branch and no-one is working on it | 01:06 |
| TheMuso | Ok. | 01:06 |
| TheMuso | A little surprised to see no debian packaging in there with it actually. | 01:06 |
| TheMuso | Wow this is a mess. | 01:08 |
| TheMuso | We have a branch, and then the packaging that has patches in it... | 01:08 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, ech, no-one merged the changes back in? | 01:23 |
| desrt | kinda funny how the very first file in the debian archive is something that i wish i wasn't downloading | 01:29 |
| desrt | 0ad-data -- 566MB of data for a game | 01:30 |
| desrt | second file is the source package for same -- same size, more or less | 01:30 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, whay are you downloading? | 01:31 |
| desrt | jessie main amd64/all/source | 01:32 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, again, why are you downloading all the debian source? | 01:32 |
| desrt | because i didn't see '--nosource' :) | 01:32 |
| * robert_ancell loves working on encrypted root. It's awesome to lose the encryption key and have to reinstall | 01:33 | |
| desrt | robert_ancell: i took a guess on your 'whay' between 'what'(one letter off) and 'why' and came up wrong :p | 01:33 |
| robert_ancell | oh, fair enough :) | 01:33 |
| robert_ancell | I was typing while standing up and making tea | 01:33 |
| desrt | my pristine-chroot-for-jhbuild project is benefiting from having a local mirror | 01:34 |
| robert_ancell | ah | 01:34 |
| robert_ancell | you need a --no-huge-packages-im-never-going-to-need | 01:34 |
| desrt | but ya... don't need source, nor contrib/non-free | 01:34 |
| desrt | ya. srsly. | 01:35 |
| robert_ancell | like libreoffice | 01:35 |
| * robert_ancell ducks | 01:35 | |
| desrt | a valid point. | 01:35 |
| desrt | there is an 'exclude' option, but that sort of requires knowing in advance... | 01:35 |
| desrt | could always look at the Size: field in the Packages file, i guess | 01:36 |
| desrt | something weird is going on | 01:38 |
| desrt | ns3-doc has Size: 1062036232 but Installed-Size: is only 1589085 | 01:39 |
| tmpRAOF | desrt: Different units, of course. | 01:39 |
| desrt | ah. right. | 01:40 |
| desrt | that's slightly obnoxious :p | 01:40 |
| robert_ancell | tmpRAOF, what's the difference between you and RAOF? | 01:41 |
| tmpRAOF | robert_ancell: tmpRAOF is the RAOF who knows his freenode password. | 01:41 |
| desrt | unfortunately, some of these positively massive packages are useful -- like webkitgtk :/ | 01:42 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: No idea. | 01:55 |
| === Guest33721 is now known as benonsoftware | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 05:33 |
| IPJunkie | Good evening | 05:52 |
| larsu | good morning! | 06:19 |
| === benonsoftware is now known as Guest48867 | ||
| === Guest48867 is now known as benonsoftware | ||
| didrocks | good morning | 07:03 |
| mlankhorst | morning | 07:22 |
| didrocks | hey mlankhorst | 07:22 |
| mlankhorst | it's too early :( | 07:25 |
| didrocks | couldn't sleep? | 07:25 |
| mlankhorst | naw I could sleep just fine, too well in fact so I couldn't have breakfast at gf's :P | 07:25 |
| didrocks | ahah | 07:26 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks, comment ça va ? | 07:29 |
| pitti | hey mlankhorst, how are you? | 07:29 |
| didrocks | pitti: ça va bien, et toi ? | 07:30 |
| didrocks | pitti: je viens de voir que tu as trouvé le commit, j'avais raison vendredi \o/ | 07:31 |
| pitti | didrocks: ça va bien aussi, c'était un bon week-end | 07:31 |
| pitti | didrocks: en effet ! | 07:31 |
| didrocks | 2015-02-20 15:35:02 didrocks well, there is the large commit on resta | 07:32 |
| didrocks | rting the journal without loosing stream connexions, but I doubt the journal is | 07:32 |
| didrocks | restarting in this boot or shouldn't… | 07:32 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 07:32 |
| mlankhorst | good :) | 07:32 |
| pitti | didrocks: so reverting journald's usage of the fd storage is the trigger, but of course the actual bug could be in the underlying feature of the fd storage | 07:32 |
| didrocks | pitti: well done on the arsenal script, how did you do it, like rebooting 30 times until a hang occurs, doesn't occur? | 07:32 |
| pitti | didrocks: right, it doesn't restart, but it still tries to restore fds at startup | 07:32 |
| didrocks | pitti: right, it's just putting pain on the underlying system | 07:32 |
| pitti | didrocks: right, and after each time check list-jobs, pidof polkitd, and journal | grep timed out | 07:33 |
| didrocks | well done :) | 07:33 |
| * didrocks feels sorry pitti did this on the weekend | 07:33 | |
| pitti | didrocks: then I wrote a bisect run script which does all teh build, install, and is robust against transient testbed failures | 07:33 |
| pitti | and then I just lauched it :) | 07:33 |
| pitti | didrocks: ah, that's fine; I did the bulk of it on Friday night | 07:34 |
| didrocks | yeah, the "robust against transient testbed failures" shouldn't be as easy as those 5 workds :) | 07:34 |
| pitti | didrocks: and I didn't actually touch my computer on Saturday, we had so much to do | 07:34 |
| didrocks | words* | 07:34 |
| didrocks | pitti: gardening? | 07:34 |
| pitti | didrocks: we had a nice Thai massage, went to the stadium to see our soccer club, and to the cinema in the evening ("The Imitation Game") | 07:34 |
| pitti | what a great movie | 07:35 |
| didrocks | waow, nice Saturday, indeed :) | 07:35 |
| pitti | didrocks: nah, still snow here :) and we now have snowdrops everywhere, it's hard to even walk through the garden without trampling any of them down :) | 07:35 |
| pitti | and some crocusses already, too | 07:36 |
| didrocks | here, we had some half-melt snow on Saturday, but that's it | 07:36 |
| pitti | didrocks: so now, it would be useful to find a faster testcase without rebooting, with some combination of restarting logind in a loop or so | 07:39 |
| pitti | (and maybe killing polkitd in between) | 07:39 |
| pitti | didrocks: I'll upload a fixed systemd today (already committed the revert to Debian exp), but of course upstream should get fixed properly | 07:40 |
| pitti | if we find a quick reproducer, we can leave the actual fix to Lennart | 07:40 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, maybe restarting journald itself may trigger it quicker? | 07:40 |
| didrocks | (as it has more fds) | 07:40 |
| pitti | didrocks: but that's not what happens on boot, we don't restart journald | 07:41 |
| pitti | just that sometimes starting logind (and maybe others) gets its state wrong with trying to restore fds | 07:41 |
| pitti | maybe if we just try and start it a dozen times, one of these it will fail | 07:41 |
| didrocks | yeah, but if you the issue is on the underlying system… maybe press it to restore more fds can help triggering | 07:41 |
| pitti | perhaps | 07:42 |
| didrocks | but yeah, you are maybe right, it's only when we start the client, not when restarting the logging server | 07:42 |
| didrocks | I'll have some try in a vm in few minutes | 07:42 |
| didrocks | finishing backlogs + tea first | 07:42 |
| pitti | didrocks: I'm still a bit busy on preparing the next Debian upload (need to fix a few autopkgtests and such), and then want to fix a few remaining things in autopkgtest | 07:42 |
| didrocks | pitti: sure sure, leave that easier reproducer to me if I find anything | 07:42 |
| pitti | if you don't get this before me, I should find some time in the afternoon at the latest | 07:42 |
| pitti | didrocks: if you have time, that'd be great | 07:43 |
| didrocks | yeah, I planned to delay stuff for this issue today anyway | 07:43 |
| pitti | didrocks: next time I should write an autopkgtest right away instead of spending a day trying to reproduce it manually :) | 07:43 |
| pitti | (and it was a nice exercise to make the qemu runner robust against dozens of reboot) | 07:43 |
| didrocks | pitti: well, rebooting multiple times, I guess I wouldn't have feel confident about the adt testbed for this kind of tests | 07:44 |
| didrocks | I bet! | 07:44 |
| pitti | seb128: bonjour mon ami, ça va ? as-tu eu un bon week-end ? | 07:44 |
| pitti | didrocks: and rightly so, it wasn't :) (3.9.7 is now pretty good) | 07:44 |
| pitti | and I have a few more tweaks staged up, but not committed yet | 07:44 |
| pitti | and while I'm at it, I want to teach reboot to the LXC runner | 07:45 |
| pitti | lxc-start-ephemeral doesn't support reboot, but cloning on a tmpfs should | 07:45 |
| * didrocks will look at the debdiff, sounds interesting :) | 07:45 | |
| seb128 | salut pitti, ça va bien ! oui j'ai eu un bon w.e, samedi tranquille + amis à dinner, dimanche tennis ... et toi ? | 07:55 |
| seb128 | pitti, we were pondering going to see the immitation game yesterday, I see you recommend it :-) | 07:56 |
| pitti | seb128: notre week-end était très pleine :) we had a nice Thai massage, watched our soccer club in the stadium, went to see "The Imitation Game" in the cinema, and did some house cleaning and some nice long walk yesterday | 07:56 |
| pitti | seb128: and I figured out that *(#$#( systemd hang in between :) | 07:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, nice :-) | 07:56 |
| seb128 | yeah, I saw that | 07:57 |
| seb128 | nice work! | 07:57 |
| pitti | seb128: oh yes, I can recommend it, nice movie; did you see it? | 07:57 |
| pitti | (you didn't say the result of the pondering :) ) | 07:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, as I said we were pondering going yesterday, but weather was nice and we played tennis a bit longer and that it was too short schedule | 07:57 |
| seb128 | oh, right :-) | 07:57 |
| Laney | hey hey | 09:07 |
| didrocks | morning Laney | 09:10 |
| davmor2 | Laney: you are not Pete Latimater from warehouse 13 ;) Morning by the way :) | 09:11 |
| darkxst | hey Laney, didrocks seb128 pitti | 09:12 |
| larsu | morning Laney! | 09:12 |
| seb128 | hey Laney davmor2 darkxst | 09:13 |
| * Laney stares at davmor2 | 09:13 | |
| Laney | greetings to all the world | 09:13 |
| didrocks | evening darkxst ;) | 09:14 |
| darkxst | Laney, what cool artifacts do you have? | 09:14 |
| Laney | I have this here mug with tea in it | 09:14 |
| pitti | hey darkxst | 09:14 |
| mzanetti | seb128: hey. if I select the german keboard layout in systemsettings, it only changes the OSK, but not the physical one | 09:16 |
| seb128 | mzanetti, right, mir doesn't have a concept of layout | 09:17 |
| mzanetti | uh | 09:17 |
| mzanetti | ok | 09:17 |
| seb128 | mzanetti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1412492 | 09:17 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1412492 in mir (Ubuntu) "can't change the keyboard layout" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 09:17 |
| seb128 | mzanetti, btw, your bug from saturday, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/bluetooth-device-visibility-tweak/+merge/250105 address it I think, but not sure if the way you describe is better | 09:18 |
| seb128 | mzanetti, if you want to review, feel free | 09:18 |
| mzanetti | seb128: ack, will give it a test | 09:20 |
| === duflu_ is now known as duflu | ||
| mzanetti | seb128: just reading through it, I'm worried it will stay discoverable if I close the settings apps while in the bluetooth page | 09:21 |
| ochosi | Laney: no worries, it happens ;) | 09:22 |
| seb128 | mzanetti, how would you close it? | 09:22 |
| mzanetti | right edge spread + flick up/dowen | 09:23 |
| mzanetti | down | 09:23 |
| seb128 | mzanetti, if you open the switcher or swap apps or suspend the phone, it goes in "Qt.application.state === Qt.ApplicationSuspended" | 09:23 |
| mzanetti | seb128: what if it crashes? | 09:23 |
| seb128 | yeah, in that case we are probably screwed | 09:23 |
| xnox | Morning! And today I start my IRCing in ipv6 end to end =) | 09:24 |
| mzanetti | seb128: but ok... if it catches the normal case it's definitely better than current state | 09:24 |
| xnox | it feels sooooo much better =) | 09:24 |
| seb128 | yeah | 09:24 |
| seb128 | xnox, good morning :-) | 09:24 |
| * xnox 's irc proxy was running on ipv6 native for a long time, however now my vpn has ipv4 end-points, but allocates / routes ipv6 traffic only, the irc proxy is listening on ipv6 address only | 09:26 | |
| xnox | only found avahi-autoipd to be crashing helplessly in such setup =) | 09:26 |
| xnox | still can't browse ipv6 internet - awaiting to have a /64 block allocated to me or will have to switch vps provider. | 09:27 |
| darkxst | my ipv6 enabled netgear router can't do ipv6 ;( | 09:28 |
| * mzanetti can only use a /56 subnet and is hugely pissed off with his provider about that | 09:28 | |
| mzanetti | given that they actually assigned me a /64 net | 09:28 |
| mzanetti | but then configure the router to only advertice /56 internally | 09:29 |
| mzanetti | and I can't change anything on that router | 09:29 |
| xnox | darkxst: well, my isp provided router blocks protocol 41 -> thus i'm pondering if connecting via VPN to the internets works out or not. | 09:29 |
| xnox | otherwise i'll have to invest into my own router, and convince housemates that changing this is the future. | 09:29 |
| darkxst | xnox, this not isp router | 09:30 |
| xnox | mzanetti: well you can pretended the full /64 is allocated and just carefully use /56 of it. However sounds/looks broken. | 09:30 |
| mzanetti | yeah.. what I want to have is a private subnet | 09:34 |
| mzanetti | witha router that I can't configure, but my ISP can, I don't consider the network a private one | 09:34 |
| mzanetti | so I'd need to add some routing behind it... but that router doesn't support that | 09:34 |
| xnox | mzanetti: i'm struggling to find providers that do it right. cause you need full /64 block and the upstream gateway _must_ be outside of that block, otherwise it's not a full /64 over which one can do stateless auto configuration etc. | 09:35 |
| mzanetti | so I use IPv4 again behind the scenes and have a raspberry pi in the "DMZ" that routes me between the ipv6 services I use | 09:35 |
| xnox | mzanetti: well you can get /48 off https://tunnelbroker.net/ | 09:35 |
| mzanetti | yeah, I had that | 09:36 |
| xnox | and bring up the tunnel on your router. | 09:36 |
| mzanetti | but that messes with IPs | 09:36 |
| mzanetti | can't use netflix as long as it's enabled for instance | 09:36 |
| mzanetti | because HE gives out american ips | 09:36 |
| mzanetti | ok... for some this might be an advantage :D | 09:36 |
| mzanetti | also it's quite funny, if you have a tunnelbroker tunnel and then in the network 2 devices, one supporting ipv6 then only ipv4 and you log into google with both | 09:37 |
| mzanetti | google will kick you out and call you as you clearly logged in from 2 different places :D | 09:38 |
| xnox | mzanetti: he has european ips as well, e.g. london. | 09:41 |
| mzanetti | really? my tunnel endpoint was in Berlin, yet the IP was from the US range | 09:42 |
| xnox | well ipv6 geolocation databases are a bit bad atm. | 09:44 |
| * xnox tries to figure out a way to figure out ipv6 locations | 09:44 | |
| xnox | plus tunnels use their own prefix - thus one can identify that a tunnel is well a tunnel. | 09:45 |
| xnox | mzanetti: hm, you seem to be right assigned tunnels are usa based, despite using "local" endpoints to connect the tunnel. | 09:45 |
| seb128 | mitya57, hey, just saw some of those bugs where you commented about ffe needed, they are right, usually we don't require a ffe for features uploaded before the freeze but where the archive admin didn't get them out of the queue yet | 09:48 |
| seb128 | it's the upload date which counts | 09:48 |
| xnox | mzanetti: darkxst: any recommendation as to what home router to get - preferably the one that can do wifi g/n/ac & can establish 4to6 tunnel, maintain ipv6-only local home network and can e.g. provide NAT64 gateway using isp's ipv4 connectivity. | 09:53 |
| mzanetti | yeah, one sec | 09:54 |
| darkxst | xnox, not played with any ac routers, but all the n routers I have bought have failed miserably | 09:55 |
| darkxst | and dd-wrt is not up to scratch for ipv6 unfortunately | 09:55 |
| darkxst | well not yet | 09:55 |
| mzanetti | xnox: not the cheapest, but I have perfect experience with this one: http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTAC68U/ | 09:55 |
| mzanetti | running dd-wrt with radius server, hotspot and everything super reliably in my parent's hotel | 09:56 |
| mzanetti | there is a newer version available now apparently | 09:56 |
| darkxst | mzanetti, but with native ipv6? | 09:56 |
| mzanetti | not that hotspot | 09:57 |
| mzanetti | but I have another one here in my place with dd-wrt. that one does ipv6 quite ok | 09:57 |
| mzanetti | the ui for configuring is lacking | 09:57 |
| mzanetti | but manually configuring radvd etc works fine | 09:57 |
| xnox | oh openvpn client/server -> that's nice. I use tinc vpn at the moment though. | 09:58 |
| xnox | but can be persuaded to switch, maybe. | 09:58 |
| xnox | (tinc does p2p mesh networking) | 09:58 |
| darkxst | mzanetti, ok, my dd-wrt router died just before I got ipv6 from my isp | 09:59 |
| darkxst | (So never actually tried to do it) | 10:00 |
| didrocks | pitti: :/ tried various approach, stopping and starting systemd-logind, killing it, setting the restart limit threshold to 0 to avoid sleeping and spamming it more, killing polkit first and getting it respawn through systemd-logind. No luck in reproducing that way (even with more than 5000 loop iterations)… | 10:01 |
| mzanetti | darkxst: dd-wrt was creating a ipv6 tunnel to tunnelbroker.net for me for the last 2 years and announcing it in my local network. | 10:02 |
| pitti | didrocks: ouch :-( so I guess this interacts with more services during boot | 10:02 |
| pitti | didrocks: perhaps multiple services trying to restore their FDs at the same time or so | 10:02 |
| mzanetti | darkxst: I had to ipkg netfilter6 modules (to a USB stick as that router didn't have internal storage) but then it would also do ipv6 firewall just fine | 10:02 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, I'm trying to spam with multiple service stopping in parallel now | 10:02 |
| didrocks | need to ensure I'm disable the threshold burst limit for them first though | 10:03 |
| darkxst | mzanetti, maybe I should try on my ancient WRT54GL if i can find it ;) | 10:13 |
| mzanetti | :) | 10:16 |
| mzanetti | seb128: hey, do system settings already set some setting when I change the keyboard layout? | 10:16 |
| seb128 | mzanetti, yeah, they change the osk config | 10:16 |
| mzanetti | seb128: would you say that's the one that should also be used for the physical keyobard layout settings? | 10:17 |
| seb128 | mzanetti, I didn't think enough about the topic to have an opinion I think, but it would make sense to have the layout changing in osk/phyical keyboard at the same time I think | 10:19 |
| seb128 | mzanetti, not sure if it means unity8 should watch the osk config though? | 10:20 |
| mzanetti | seb128: afaiu from the Mir guys that's what we'd have to do, yes | 10:20 |
| mzanetti | well, unity8 watching *some* config | 10:20 |
| mzanetti | whether that's the same as for the OSK or not, that's still open | 10:21 |
| seb128 | right | 10:22 |
| seb128 | well, until that interface/config is not defined not a lot we can do in settings | 10:23 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, Are you about? | 10:30 |
| Laney | round and about | 10:30 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, Thanks for the new GTK2 release to 15.04. | 10:30 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, I was wondering if you will be back porting the pertinent commit to Trusty and Precise? | 10:31 |
| Laney | flexiondotorg: I haven't got plans to do that right now - I'd be willing to sponsnor a patch which does it though | 10:32 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, OK. I can take that on. | 10:32 |
| Laney | neat, toss me a link once it's ready | 10:33 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, Will do. | 10:34 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, Which branch should I work against? | 10:35 |
| flexiondotorg | lp:ubuntu/trusty/gtk+2.0 | 10:35 |
| flexiondotorg | lp:ubuntu/trusty-updates/gtk+2.0 | 10:35 |
| flexiondotorg | lp:ubuntu/trusty-proposed/gtk+2.0 | 10:35 |
| Laney | flexiondotorg: Probably easiest to just give a debdiff | 10:37 |
| === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr | ||
| Sweet5hark | ricotz: FWIW, just uploading 4.4.1, but untested so far ... | 11:13 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, thanks and noted! :) | 11:24 |
| didrocks | pitti: tried to stop and restart ~10 units in parallels, no luck :/ | 11:31 |
| didrocks | (over 5000 loops) | 11:32 |
| pitti | didrocks: meh -- but thanks a lot for trying! | 11:32 |
| pitti | perhaps Lennart has an idea about those timeouts | 11:32 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, let's see… I'm trying a last tests and then call bankruptcy on the reproducer | 11:33 |
| didrocks | test* | 11:33 |
| === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson | ||
| * Laney discovers that our HLS support sucks | 12:13 | |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, another failure with this approach making things even more parallel… Giving up for now :/ | 12:14 |
| Laney | for example try to play http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_med/llnw/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8 in totem | 12:15 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: hey, missed your ping on having multiple windows of libreoffice running at the same time ... | 12:15 |
| * Sweet5hark scared away willcooke rather quick it seems. | 12:17 | |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: around? | 12:20 |
| Sweet5hark | heh | 12:26 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, i am wondering where did you upload 4.4.1? | 12:27 |
| Sweet5hark | ricotz: https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-staging <- took a while to show up | 12:31 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, ah ok, i guess i should have looked a few minutes later | 12:33 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: stable connection now? | 12:46 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, nah - Wifi in the office, it hates me | 12:53 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: ;) | 12:53 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: are there still open question wrt libreoffice opening different windows? I missed your ping on friday ... | 12:54 |
| willcooke | I've got the realtek wifi chipset as well, which was a massive mistake | 12:54 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, oh - yes, if poss.. so I have n Xmir sessions, open. And I'd like Writer in one, Calc in another etc | 12:55 |
| willcooke | but when I run, say, calc - it always converts an already existing LO instance in to calc | 12:55 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: yeah. rather: there is always only one instance running, as running multiple libreoffices isnt too good for system ressources ... | 12:56 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: (just like e.g. firefox does) | 12:57 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: there used to be easy tricks around that when we still had a bigger shell starter script, but we merged much of that "look for other office instances" directly into the executable making it harder to work around that ... | 12:58 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, oki - so we can't hack it then? I expect that when we have confined X applications this problem will solve itself because they wont be able to see each other? | 13:01 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: I havent tried yet, but if you have multiple different LibreOffice profiles (the default being ~/.config/libreoffice), I think they each have an instance of their own running. http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/42975/how-can-i-run-multiple-instances-of-sofficebin-at-a-time/ has some hints on that (but ask.lo.org seems to be temporarily down :/) | 13:03 |
| willcooke | thanks Sweet5hark | 13:04 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: however, even if you nicely start a "LibreOffice Writer" instance and a "LibreOffice Calc" instance with everything separate, you will still totally be able to create a spreadsheet from the "Writer" instance. After all that is essentially the point of a productivity suite -- as you can have tables (from Calc) or graphics (from Draw/Impress) and bibliographies (from Base) in text documents etc ... | 13:06 |
| mlankhorst | Sweet5hark: At some point libreoffice is creating a 15725x23 window when I enable OpenGL acceleration. This is bigger than the opengl limits, any idea why? | 13:16 |
| Sweet5hark | mlankhorst: not off the spot. Maybe just testing for OpenGL capabilities or something? | 13:18 |
| mlankhorst | no idea.. you could query GL limits for that.. | 13:19 |
| Sweet5hark | mlankhorst: is that directly in startup? | 13:22 |
| mlankhorst | I'll grab the -dbg symbols, see what code's creating it.. | 13:23 |
| mlankhorst | looks specific to the recovery window | 13:23 |
| Sweet5hark | mlankhorst: k | 13:23 |
| mlankhorst | lo.org has too many debug symbols, slows down gdb :( | 13:36 |
| mlankhorst | ugh, hung my pc completely.. | 13:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, what do you think about updating gdk-pixbuf? | 13:42 |
| seb128 | there is a new version out since novembre | 13:42 |
| seb128 | which should fix bug #139067 | 13:42 |
| ubot5 | bug 139067 in gdk-pixbuf (Ubuntu) "Openning gif file with causes the system freezing" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139067 | 13:42 |
| mlankhorst | Sweet5hark: http://paste.debian.net/155695/ ? | 13:45 |
| mlankhorst | that's the entry with 15712 width | 13:45 |
| mlankhorst | I'm uncertain what a headerbar is though, could it be shortened? :P | 13:51 |
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| Sweet5hark | mlankhorst: interesting -- thats the HeaderBar ... | 14:15 |
| mlankhorst | yeah but anything I can do about it? | 14:28 |
| mlankhorst | hack is fine | 14:28 |
| Sweet5hark | mlankhorst: likely the CalcWindowSizePixel at http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/svtools/source/control/headbar.cxx#1499 gets something really wrong and over/underflows ... | 14:30 |
| mlankhorst | Sweet5hark: any idea why? | 14:32 |
| Sweet5hark | mlankhorst: nope | 14:32 |
| Laney | seb128: no opinion atm, anything concerning? | 14:33 |
| mlankhorst | meh :/ | 14:33 |
| mlankhorst | it breaks libreoffice + gl under Xmir.. | 14:33 |
| Sweet5hark | mlankhorst: one wild ass guess would be something like dpi being way off and thus the image sizes being way wrong etc. but really, I would need to debug into that rabbithole ... | 14:34 |
| mlankhorst | possibly, can I see what DPI it believes I have? | 14:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, not really, in fact I'm mostly pointing it because we are in sync with Debian and you might want to update it here | 14:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, I'm also happy to do the update myself in vivid | 14:36 |
| Laney | ok, I'll note it down | 14:36 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:36 |
| Laney | thx | 14:36 |
| Laney | that is a nice low bug number | 14:37 |
| Laney | hope it's real | 14:37 |
| seb128 | :-) | 14:37 |
| Sweet5hark | mlankhorst: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/include/vcl/outdev.hxx#252 seems to have those, but I dont know if you can get read conveniently read them without having a proper local debug build ... | 14:41 |
| mlankhorst | meh nm for now then | 14:41 |
| pitti | seb128, Laney: this fixes your boot woes (just made it into vivid): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/219-3ubuntu1 | 16:14 |
| Laney | pitti: good work! | 16:14 |
| pitti | or, if it doesn't, go away! | 16:14 |
| pitti | :) | 16:14 |
| Laney | it became more heisen-y after I got a successful boot | 16:14 |
| Laney | so I'll get back to you in a month :P | 16:14 |
| didrocks | Laney: 30 boots seem to be enough but my ETOOMANYTESTING | 16:15 |
| qengho | kenvandine: How's chromium? | 16:15 |
| Laney | didrocks: I was playing with it friday and made a unit which rebooted the system if lightdm managed to come up | 16:16 |
| Laney | that was fun | 16:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, great, thanks! | 16:16 |
| didrocks | Laney: I hope you did use some lightdm.service.d dropping? :) | 16:17 |
| Laney | something like that | 16:17 |
| pitti | Laney: I spent my Friday night writing an autopkgtest to reproduce it :) (and then Sunday to bisect upstream) | 16:17 |
| Laney | I tried it with systemd-reboot.target first and this made a loop which aborted the boot at start | 16:17 |
| Laney | sooooooooo had to make a custom unit | 16:17 |
| didrocks | Laney: if you are interested in details, you can look at the xfailsafe implementation, basically it extends existing units and add a custom target + unit :) | 16:18 |
| kenvandine | qengho, forgot to install it from the PPA :) | 16:19 |
| kenvandine | i'll do it now | 16:19 |
| kenvandine | qengho, HUGE improvement in chromium | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | the menu's work, although the fonts in the menu is a bit large | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | but before it didn't work at all | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | the fonts in the tabs is too big, as well as the status bar at the bottom | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | qengho, but it functions and the content looks good | 16:30 |
| qengho | kenvandine: hrm, thanks. | 16:30 |
| kenvandine | qengho, significantly better than chrome :) | 16:31 |
| kenvandine | with the vivid packages, the menu didn't work at all, from the PPA it works fine just the fonts are a bit large | 16:31 |
| didrocks | see you tomorrow guys! | 17:03 |
| Laney | my turn, ttyl! | 18:06 |
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| willcooke | hey robert_ancell_ | 19:10 |
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