[07:31] <dark-sun> !linux
[18:40] <MortezaE|Away> Boot iso images for installing, directly from Hard (via grub): http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/665/installing-grub-2-on-a-usb-flash-drive
[18:41] <MortezaE|Away> direct answer link: http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/1041
[20:15] <alireza_> salam
[20:15] <alireza_> kesi hast ?
[20:16] <MortezaE> na
[20:16] <MortezaE> his! khaban
[20:16] <MortezaE> Azitrex, پاشو مشتری اومده
[20:17] <alireza_> agha morteza khoobi
[20:17] <alireza_> agha man ye moshkeli bar khordam
[20:17] <alireza_> kesi ye filtershekane khoob soragh nadare vas ubuntu ?
[20:17] <alireza_> moshtari ? :D
[20:17] <MortezaE> mammnun :)
[20:17] <MortezaE> Tor
[20:17] <MortezaE> +
[20:17] <MortezaE> FoxyProxy (Browser Extension)
[20:18] <MortezaE> آموزش تور توی ویکی هست
[20:18] <alireza_> vas shabake mikham
[20:18] <alireza_> mikham android-studio nasb konam
[20:19] <alireza_> tahrimim , nemishe
[20:19] <MortezaE> tor javab nemide?
[20:19] <alireza_> javab mide tor ?
[20:19] <MortezaE> linke in siti ke migi bede bebinam
[20:19] <MortezaE> yani linke hamoon fili ke migi tahrime
[20:20] <alireza_> na , dadash , kolan az google tahrimim , va android studio ham male google
[20:21] <MortezaE> mamoolan tor ba google moshkel nadare
[20:21] <MortezaE> masalan google code
[20:21] <alireza_>  Bootstrapped 59%: Loading relay descriptors
[20:21] <MortezaE> البته گوگل سرچ، گاهی کپتچا می‌خواد
[20:21] <alireza_> bez binam j mide ya na
[20:21] <alireza_> omidvarim
[20:22] <MortezaE> اینا که نوشتی چیه
[20:22] <MortezaE> اها
[20:25] <alireza_> chand vaghte ubuntu bazi agha morteza ?
[20:25] <MortezaE> why
[20:25] <MortezaE> so much :p
[20:25] <alireza_> hamijoori
[20:26] <alireza_> hehe
[20:26] <alireza_> agha kesi inja hipchat nadare ?
[20:27] <MortezaE> گفتم که... خوابن
[20:27] <MortezaE> گفتم که... خوابن خوابن
[20:27] <MortezaE> ۳۰۹ ساله!
[20:28] <alireza_> rastaki khaban ya shookhi mikoni ?
[20:28] <alireza_> morgh alan nemikhabeke
[20:31] <MortezaE> :))
[20:33] <alireza_> https://www.hipchat.com/invite/287221/e9e47301e89f2e459b663ce8ad55bddchttps://www.hipchat.com/invite/287221/e9e47301e89f2e459b663ce8ad55bddc
[20:33] <MortezaE> این چیه؟ من رو دعوت کردی؟
[20:34] <alireza_> are , hipchat heyli applicationekhafaniye vase chat
[20:34] <alireza_> rahat tar az irc hastesh
[20:34] <alireza_> taze peydash kardam
[20:34] <alireza_> vas ubuntu va mac o windows
[20:35] <MortezaE> خوبه بعدا تستش می‌کنم ممنون :)
[20:36] <alireza_> khahesh
[20:37] <alireza_> in tor halamo gerefte ...
[20:37] <alireza_> cheshe ..
[20:37] <alireza_> hang karde roo 77%
[20:38] <MortezaE> دانلود متوقف شده؟
[20:38] <MortezaE> ای بابا
[20:41] <alireza_> melat miyan banke tejarat hack mikonan oonvaght yeki nemiyad in systeme filtering irano hack kone ....
[20:42] <MortezaE> vaghean :(
[20:47] <Azitrex> alireza_, chera eclipse estefadeh nemikoni ?
[20:50] <alireza_> estefade mikonam , ama vase python project ham
[20:50] <alireza_> ya nahayatan php
[20:50] <MortezaE> در اون سطحی که کار می‌کنم، همین جی ادیت هم از سرم زیاده LOL
[20:50] <MortezaE> Azitrex,
[20:51] <alireza_> vase android mohite android studio kheyli behtare
[20:51] <MortezaE> آها فک کردم با منی
[20:55] <Azitrex> alireza_, kasani ke android kar hastan eclipse ro be android studio tarjih midan vali khub ageh mikhay studio use koni bayad hamisheh ye ghand shekan kenaret basheh
[20:55] <alireza_> migama , ye sar be in site bezanin binam az idash khoshetoon miyad :
[20:55] <alireza_> unipy.ir
[20:58] <Azitrex> technical nis !
[20:58] <Azitrex> bejaye ax az pattern ya css use mikardi
[20:59] <MortezaE> alireza_, جالبه
[20:59] <Azitrex> vaseh slide show ham miai address ro forward mikoni ham jaleb nis hey mikhay hit begiri ?!
[20:59] <MortezaE> ایده خیلی خوبیه. واسه خودتونه؟
[21:00] <alireza_> hehehe
[21:00] <alireza_> dar in had ?
[21:00] <alireza_> pashimoonemoon nakon
[21:00] <alireza_> man faghat chon mohite graphici dare va rahat mifahmi che ghalati kardi mikham dl konam
[21:00] <alireza_> age injooriye bikhiyalesh
[21:00] <alireza_> are morteza jan , albate hichi nist , bakhshe asli site ine : main.unipy.ir
[21:00] <MortezaE> let me see...
[21:00] <alireza_> age injooriye hamoon eclipse khodemoon behtare
[21:00] <alireza_> bikhiyalesh pas
[21:00] <alireza_> hamin kari ke migi mikonam
[21:02] <MortezaE> alireza_, it will be Paid?
[21:03] <MortezaE> دارم عضو میشم :)
[21:04] <alireza_> manzooret ine ke gharare pooli bashe ?
[21:04] <alireza_> didam
[21:04] <alireza_> taeedet kardam
[21:05] <alireza_> chize khasi toosh nist alan
[21:05] <alireza_> felan ba bacheha darim roo course ha kar mikonim
[21:05] <alireza_> dargire tarjome matlab va chidemanim
[21:05] <alireza_> az beginner ta pro
[21:06] <MortezaE> ایول آموزش آنلاین خیلی خوبه
[21:06] <alireza_> kare sakhtiye
[21:07] <MortezaE> تهیه محتوا؟
[21:07] <alireza_> chon avalin gharare avalin marjae farsi python bashe
[21:07] <alireza_> omidvaram begire
[21:07] <alireza_> are
[21:08] <alireza_> tahiyeye mohtavaye tanha nist akhe
[21:08] <alireza_> inke che mohtavayi vase che dore ie bashe baresi lazem dare
[21:08] <MortezaE> هومممم.. معلومه دارین کار اساسی میکنین
[21:09] <alireza_> albate khoobish ine ke avalesh sakhte
[21:09] <alireza_> baedesh mataleb gostarde mishe , aeza age ziyad beshan faaliyat mikonan , forum azad dare
[21:09] <alireza_> dige ma nistim ke be mataleb ezafe mikonim
[21:09] <Azitrex> alireza_, tu in hameh jenab mohandesatun shoma az hameh ziba tari :D http://unipy.ir/#0
[21:09] <alireza_> are ,ama rastesho bekhay felan dast tanham
[21:09] <alireza_> too fekre inam team khoobi dorost konam
[21:10] <MortezaE> آره جامعه نرم افزار آزاد و... :)
[21:10] <alireza_> hahaha
[21:10] <alireza_> alakiye kako
[21:10] <alireza_> esma ham alakiye
[21:10] <alireza_>  :D
[21:10] <alireza_> ye html ui dozdiye in bala ro saresh darovordam :D
[21:11] <alireza_> hame ina taghir mikone :D
[21:11] <Azitrex> alireza_, linkeh templateshu midi behem ?
[21:11] <MortezaE> me2 :)
[21:11] <Azitrex> alireza_, shirazi ?
[21:12] <alireza_> yadam nemiyad koja dl kardam vala
[21:12] <alireza_> bekhay roo hardam hast
[21:12] <alireza_> farda khabaram kon behet bedam
[21:12] <MortezaE> Azitrex, من شنیدم شیرازیا خیلی فعال نیستن ;)
[21:12] <alireza_> alan dadam bacheha lecturehaye ostad tohidi ro berizan vasam :d
[21:12] <alireza_> na azizam ,man bache bushehram
[21:13] <MortezaE> نگفتم؟ هه هه
[21:13] <alireza_> gharar bud danehsgah shiraz bashim ke moteasefane oftadim posht konkoor :D
[21:13] <Azitrex> alireza_, oh jalebeh bushehr python developer dareh
[21:13] <Azitrex> movafagh bashid ishala
[21:13] <alireza_> moteshakeram
[21:14] <alireza_> buhsher tanha jayiye ke az c# bizaran :D
[21:14] <Azitrex> alireza_, hala babateh template farda cheturi peydat konam ?
[21:14] <alireza_> python eshghe
[21:14] <Azitrex> :D
[21:14] <Azitrex> RoR
[21:14] <Azitrex> RoR kar nakardin ?
[21:14] <alireza_> az nazare man hichi mese python nemishe
[21:14] <alireza_> haminja nisti mage ?
[21:15] <alireza_> age nisti biya too in groupe ozv sho :
[21:15] <alireza_> https://www.hipchat.com/invite/287221/e9e47301e89f2e459b663ce8ad55bddc
[21:15] <Azitrex> chera ama shoma ro jadid daram mibinam
[21:15] <MortezaE> alireza_, alan man automatic ozv shodam?
[21:16] <alireza_> are morteza jan
[21:16] <MortezaE> jalebe
[21:16] <alireza_> client ro nasb kon ro ubuntut bashe
[21:16] <MortezaE> are hatman
[21:16] <Azitrex> RoR kar nakardin ?
[21:16] <alireza_> man taze ubuntu nasb kardam roo systemam akhe
[21:16] <alireza_> ghablan ubuntu bood baed windows nasb kardam
[21:17] <alireza_> baz kofri shodam dobare ubuntu nasb karadam
[21:17] <alireza_> man na tahala\
[21:17] <alireza_> esmesham hata nashnidam
[21:17] <alireza_> vase systeme ya web ?
[21:18] <Azitrex> Roby on Rails
[21:18] <MortezaE> alireza_, Ruby on Rails ro mige
[21:18] <Azitrex> ye FW ruby hast vaseh web
[21:18] <alireza_> avalin bare esmesho mishnavam
[21:18] <MortezaE> Azitrex, az django ghavitare?
[21:18] <Azitrex> hala ageh ruby kar koni py ro faramoosh mikoni ;)
[21:18] <Azitrex> baleh :)
[21:19] <Azitrex> albateh manzoret az ghavi chi basheh
[21:19] <alireza_> man vase web ghabl az python chizi joz php kar nakardam
[21:19] <alireza_> django ke hamoon pythone :D
[21:19] <MortezaE> Azitrex, cakePhp ro bar asase ror sakhtan
[21:19] <Azitrex> jango FW pythoni hast khudeh python nis
[21:19] <MortezaE> khob ror ham fw ruby hast dige!
[21:20] <MortezaE> aha
[21:20] <Azitrex> manam goftam ke FW hast
[21:20] <MortezaE> ok
[21:20] <alireza_> jalebe , miram donbalesh baede konkoor
[21:21] <Azitrex> ye ruz vaght bezari koli yad migiri kheili sari o sadast va kheili sari ham misheh develop kard , shayad ye app webi ke 2 mah tool bekesheh ba RoR 2 hafteh bishtar nasheh
[21:21] <alireza_> mishe bash faz gereft ? :D
[21:22] <alireza_> man python ro entehab kardam chon kamel bood va sade va khoshmaze
[21:22] <Azitrex> python ye maghdar kharab kard va community alan dava daran baham
[21:22] <alireza_> cheshemoon ke saleme , ye negah be inam mindazim
[21:22] <Azitrex> kheili dg taraf dareh python nistan tu donya
[21:23] <Azitrex> dareh kamrang tar misheh
[21:23] <alireza_> vali nemishe ino nadide gereft ke az kameltarin hast
[21:23] <MortezaE> ajab
[21:23] <alireza_> injoori kam nemishe ghezavat kard
[21:24] <alireza_> c# ro bebin ?!
[21:24] <alireza_> akhe chi dare
[21:24] <alireza_> asan be che dard mikhore
[21:24] <Azitrex> hmm hanuz man chizeh kamel nadidam , hala shoma manzoret az kamel chi basheh mohemeh
[21:24] <Azitrex> programming platform ke dg microsofti nemisheh :D be chizaye bozorg fek kon :D
[21:25] <alireza_> ama too iran barname nevisi yaeni C#
[21:25] <alireza_> manzooram ine ke ham vase system mishe nevesht ham vase web ham vase chizaye dige
[21:25] <MortezaE> alireza_, in CMS hast ya khodetoon app ro neveshtin?
[21:25] <Azitrex> bezar har kasi ke C# dus dareh kareh khudeshu bokoneh , har kasi lazem nis lezzat bebareh
[21:25] <MortezaE> main.unipy
[21:25] <alireza_> vali kamel be insoorat ke haaaaaaaaame kar beshe bahash kard na
[21:26] <alireza_> vaghean ya seri kararo hanooz man ba assembli mikonam
[21:26] <alireza_> migam dige
[21:26] <alireza_> cms kako , bazi module ha ro khodam neveshtam
[21:26] <MortezaE> aha
[21:27] <alireza_> felan faghat dar hade ye idea roo be ejras
[21:27] <Azitrex> har zaban ye abzareh kareh bayad did motenaseb ba kari ke dari behtarin abzar chie va cheturi misheh azash estefadeh kard , hameye zaban ha khuban va be jash bayad estefadeh kard
[21:27] <alireza_> vaghti didam fayede dare
[21:27] <alireza_> khodam mishinam az aval minevisam
[21:27] <alireza_> daghighan
[21:27] <alireza_> az nazare man adam bayad hameye zaban ha ro balad bashe
[21:28] <alireza_> chon in zaban nist ke erzat mikone
[21:28] <alireza_> hala baeziya 4ta code bishtar daran , 4 ta amalgara bishtar daran lazemet mishan
[21:28] <alireza_> vali mohem ine bashoon chetori hal koni
[21:28] <alireza_> farghi nemikone az chi khoshet biyad , vali hamasho balad bashi khoobe
[21:29] <Azitrex> field karit moshakhas basheh abzar haye karit ham maloomeh chia hastan ke bayad yad begirishun masalan kasi vaseh web assembly nemizaneh va vaseh kareh systemi C# use nemikoneh
[21:29] <Azitrex> yup
[21:30] <Azitrex> RoR ro ye negah bokon jazabeh , ruby gem ro ham bebin ke cheghad kameleh va chia dareh
[21:30] <MortezaE> Azitrex, RoR baraye webe? baraye OS ham chizi hast?
[21:30] <alireza_> hatman
[21:30] <alireza_> razi khodetoono moarefi nemikonin ?
[21:31] <Azitrex> MortezaE, yup
[21:31] <MortezaE> man ke shohrate khassi nadaram :D ostad Azitrex ?
[21:31] <alireza_> python vase os ham j mide
[21:31] <alireza_> ama to in zamine zaife yekhoorde
[21:31] <alireza_> yechi behtar bayad gir biyari
[21:32] <alireza_> donbal shohratet nistam kako , khodet chand chandi ? :D bache kojayi , chand salete ?
[21:33] <alireza_> rasi hipochat ro install konin ye group dashte bashim lazem mishe
[21:34] <MortezaE> man bishtar c++ va php kar kardam alireza_ north khorasan 28
[21:35] <alireza_> harchi gheyr az C# kar karde bashi ghaboolet daram :D
[21:36] <alireza_> manam Alireza , bushehr , 19
[21:36]  * MortezaE hates uncle bill's shitty products
[21:36] <MortezaE> kheili khoshhal shodam mohandesh joon :)
[21:36] <alireza_> bacheha lazemetoon daram , haminja hastin dige hamishe ?
[21:36] <alireza_> gometoon nakonam ?
[21:37] <MortezaE> man hastam :) ozv ham shodam mail dadam
[21:37] <MortezaE> Azitrex, ham patogheshe inja
[21:37] <Azitrex> hehe :D
[21:37] <Azitrex> areh hastim
[21:37] <Azitrex> alireza_, ye client khub nasb kon
[21:37] <alireza_> kho khoda ro shokr
[21:38] <alireza_> hehehe , kho khoobe
[21:38] <alireza_> in hipchat kheyli khoobe
[21:38] <Azitrex> irc fek konam light tar basheh
[21:38] <alireza_> nasb kon mifahmi chi migam
[21:38] <alireza_> agha morteza did pasandid
[21:38] <Azitrex> morteza hameh chi dus dareh
[21:38] <Azitrex> :D
[21:38] <alireza_> are , hast
[21:38] <alireza_> ama chizi mikhaym send konim nemishe
[21:38] <alireza_> oon ham soratesh balas
[21:39] <alireza_> ham eyne irc sadast
[21:39] <MortezaE> Azitrex, are mohete khoobie baraye in kara
[21:39] <alireza_> ham viceo voico file sharing dare
[21:39] <MortezaE> alireza_, DCC ham hast albate
[21:39] <MortezaE> albate Privacy ro kam mikone
[21:39] <Azitrex> MortezaE, ru freenode kar nemikoneh
[21:39] <MortezaE> chon peer to peer hast
[21:39] <MortezaE> nemidoonestam!
[21:40] <alireza_> oono nadidam dige
[21:40] <alireza_> migam bache ha ye soali
[21:40] <alireza_> agha man ye hosting khoob mikham
[21:40] <Azitrex> alireza_, shayad farda ye testesh kardam
[21:40] <alireza_> in hosti ke unipy ro roosh gozashtam bad nist
[21:40] <MortezaE> Azitrex, ba file proxy chi?
[21:40] <Azitrex> alireza_, chio mikhay host koni ?
[21:40] <MortezaE> VPS?
[21:40] <alireza_> ama 300 mb hastesh
[21:40] <alireza_> kame
[21:40] <alireza_> az mihanwebhost gereftam
[21:41] <Azitrex> alireza_, chio mikhay host koni ?
[21:41] <alireza_> mikham enteghalesh bedam ye server behtar ba hajme bishtar
[21:41] <alireza_> jayi soragh darin
[21:41] <MortezaE> alireza_, http://securehost.ir ro nesbatan mishnasam
[21:41] <MortezaE> vps ya host?
[21:41] <Azitrex> alireza_, pythonie ?
[21:41] <alireza_> baed in shon host ekhtesasi nist , hichish daste man nist , ye php.ini nadare .......
[21:42] <MortezaE> aha hoste pythone?
[21:42] <MortezaE> aha php :D
[21:43] <MortezaE> alireza_, نظرت در مورد هاستینگ ابری پارس پک چیه؟
[21:43] <Azitrex> alireza_, belakhareh chie ?!
[21:43] <MortezaE> هاست پی اچ پیه آزی جان
[21:43] <alireza_> na baba , ye system linux meli roosh nasb kardan adam oogh mizane
[21:43] <alireza_> man chon arzoon bood gereftam
[21:43] <alireza_> ye bar service gereftam
[21:43] <MortezaE> لینوکس ملی ؟ یا کلود لینوکس؟!
[21:44] <alireza_> php jon
[21:44] <MortezaE> پارس پک کلود لینوکسه
[21:44] <alireza_> beza chek konam :D
[21:44] <alireza_> ye deghe :D
[21:45] <MortezaE> هاست یا وی پی اس خواستی بگو از سکیور هاست شاید ارزون تر بگیرم
[21:45] <alireza_> linux iran
[21:45] <MortezaE> تازه شما داری کار اپن سورس هم میکنی تخفیف بیشتر باید بده احتمالا
[21:45] <Azitrex> alireza_, openshift free and highspeed ;)
[21:45] <alireza_> hatman bet migam
[21:45] <alireza_> mamnoon
[21:46] <MortezaE> گفتی لینوکس ملی ذهنم رفت سمت شریف و فلان :) آره سرورش تو ایرانه. اروپا هم داره البته، که ترافیکش ارزون تره
[21:46] <alireza_> age begam chejoori drupal roo in host nasb kardam shakh dar miyarin
[21:46] <alireza_> joozam daroomad
[21:47] <MortezaE> estelahe mahalli bood?
[21:47] <alireza_> jonam*
[21:47] <MortezaE> aha
[21:47] <alireza_> hehehe
[21:47] <Azitrex> OpenShift ro didi ?
[21:47] <alireza_> azitrex bache kojayi ?
[21:48] <Azitrex> irc
[21:48] <alireza_> navala , man age credit card dashtam asan az iran nemikhardiam ke
[21:48] <alireza_> yaeni che ?
[21:48] <alireza_> aha
[21:48] <alireza_> secrete ?
[21:48] <alireza_> eva khoda margam bede
[21:48] <Azitrex> :)
[21:48] <alireza_> bashe :d
[21:49] <Azitrex> openshift free hast hichi nemikhad faghat email
[21:49] <alireza_> server ekhtesasi mide ?
[21:49] <alireza_> ya azoon service behdashtiya ke 300 400 ta michepoonan too yeki ?
[21:49] <Azitrex> host mikhay ya server ?!
[21:49] <alireza_> host
[21:50] <alireza_> baba hoooooooooooooost
[21:50] <Azitrex> pas chera migi server !!?
[21:50] <alireza_> host ekhtesasiiiiiiii
[21:50] <MortezaE> نشد
[21:50] <MortezaE> یا هاست، یا سرور اختصاصی
[21:50] <alireza_> hostam ye noe servere joone delam
[21:50] <MortezaE> البته احتمالا منظورت سرور مجازیه، نه اختصاصی
[21:50] <alireza_> beza az aval begam chi mikham
[21:50] <Azitrex> jalabeh jenab mohandes man ta hamin alanam nemiduenstam
[21:51] <Azitrex> kharab kardi :D
[21:51] <alireza_> bebinid azizane del
[21:51] <Azitrex> openshift ro negah kon siteshu hamin kareto rah mindazeh
[21:52] <alireza_> ma ye server darim , oonvaght yeki miyad cloudesh mikone ,yeki vps ,yeki host
[21:52] <alireza_> alan fahmidin chi shod ?
[21:53] <alireza_> velesh kon asan ghalat kardam :d
[21:53] <MortezaE> be har hal be zaram ye server majazi mikhain. vps
[21:53] <MortezaE> :D
[21:53] <alireza_> man ye host ekhtesasi mikham
[21:53] <MortezaE> naaa!
[21:53] <alireza_> host ekhtesasi in emkano be man mide ke be apache , va setting haye php.ini , va ... dast resi dashte basham
[21:53] <MortezaE> pasvand ekhtesasi alan baraye chie?
[21:54] <MortezaE> oon mishe server.
[21:54] <alireza_> shoma esmesho bezar server
[21:54] <MortezaE> ke majazish ham kareto rah mindaze
[21:54] <alireza_> ghabool
[21:54] <alireza_> man server mikham
[21:54] <alireza_> khoobe ?
[21:54] <alireza_> :D
[21:55] <MortezaE> harfet doroste, vali man faghat estelahe rayejesh ro goftam
[21:55] <Azitrex> webhostingtalk.ir/f15
[21:55] <MortezaE> man khodam ta char sale pish farghesho nemidunestam
[21:56] <alireza_> akhe midoonin ina chetoriye ?
[21:56] <MortezaE> alireza_, vps begiri, mituni roosh Py va Ruby ham run koni
[21:56] <alireza_> midoonam kako
[21:57]  * MortezaE get ashamed
[21:57] <alireza_> vali felan drupal faghat php niyaz dare
[21:57] <MortezaE> doroste
[21:57] <alireza_> age didam gereft scripti ke khodam mikham tarahi konam vps lazemam mishe
[21:58] <alireza_> ina ro velesh , yeki az bachehaye barghi ye idea jalebi dade
[21:59] <Azitrex> dar che moredi ?
[21:59] <alireza_> darmoredesh harf nazanam behtare
[21:59] <alireza_> vali in barghiya ham gah gahi shero veraye bahali migan :d
[22:00] <alireza_> ye projeie ke ziyad ma toosh dakhil nisim vali be karehsoon miyaym
[22:01] <alireza_> harki goft farghe narm afzariya ba barghiya chiye ye jayeze dare :D
[22:01] <Azitrex> dar moredeh drupaleh ?
[22:01] <MortezaE> اگه بابا برقیا نباشن ما هیچی نیستیم :(
[22:01] <Azitrex> alireza_, fargheshun ineh ke barghia pedareh computeria hastan
[22:02] <MortezaE> IQ shoun balatare? :))
[22:02] <alireza_> hehehe , na ye idea marboot be ghodrato energy hastesh
[22:02] <alireza_> ma ziyad tooosh dakhil nisim
[22:02] <alireza_> noch noch noch
[22:02] <alireza_> injoori nist
[22:03] <Azitrex> baghia kheili bahoosh taran
[22:03] <alireza_> ye fargh daran va ye shebahat
[22:03] <Azitrex> computeri ha ye systemo restart konan bayad 20 dad beheshun
[22:03] <Azitrex> ebruye harchi mohandeseh bordan
[22:03] <alireza_> hahaha :d man nemidoonam roo che hesb in harfo mizani ama ina ham nist :d
[22:04] <alireza_> dast shoma dard nakone
[22:04] <MortezaE> balaa nesbate shoma :)
[22:04] <alireza_> morteza begir bezanim in azitrex ro
[22:04] <alireza_> engar khodi nis :d
[22:04] <Azitrex> man harchi mohandeseh computereh jadidan mibinam hamashun bi sa'vadan !
[22:05] <MortezaE> haghighat talkhe :(
[22:05] <Azitrex> man mondam cheturi ghabul mishan
[22:05] <MortezaE> bargh mokheto dargir mikone
[22:06] <alireza_> chon ba alaghe nemiyan , rotbashoon balas vali haminjoori miyan computer
[22:06] <MortezaE> riazi mohandesi taghriban hich karbordi baraye narmafzaria nadare :D
[22:06] <Azitrex> barghia ye shock be computeria midan tazeh computeria mifahman ke mojodeh zendeh hastan va mitunan fek konan :))
[22:06] <alireza_> vejhe eshterakemoon ine ke ozr mikham , ozr mikham , hardo goshadim
[22:06] <MortezaE> heh
[22:07] <alireza_> ama farghemoon ineke
[22:07] <MortezaE> :))
[22:07] <Azitrex> ini ke gofti tu aksareh irani ha dideh misheh alireza_ tu hameh reshteh ha hast
[22:07] <alireza_> ma ba manteghe riyazi kar mikonim oona ba abzare riyazi
[22:08] <alireza_> too in dota bishtare
[22:08] <alireza_> makhsoosan too refighaye man
[22:08] <MortezaE> hoom
[22:08] <Azitrex> vali vaghean barghia kheili bahoosh taran ma chand ta programmer barghi darim code haee ke mizanan kheili jalebo osolie
[22:08] <alireza_> in dalilesh nist
[22:08] <alireza_> dalilesh ine ke narm afzare esbash shode
[22:09] <alireza_> narm afzariye asli poshte miz too daneshgah nemishine
[22:09] <alireza_> tare tahsil mikone donya ro too khoone mikhore
[22:09] <alireza_> joz ine ? D:
[22:10] <Azitrex> eshbah basheh ya nabasheh , hamisheh sherkat ha donbaleh barnameh nevis khub hastan ke besiar kameh , alan barghia kheili khub tar code mizanan
[22:10] <MortezaE> alireza_, daghighan :))
[22:11] <MortezaE> albate be oun migan mohandese narm afzar
[22:11] <MortezaE> na oloume computer
[22:11] <alireza_> hehehe
[22:11] <alireza_> ghabool konin ye narmafzare vagheie ro nemishe too daneshgah peyda kard
[22:11] <MortezaE> alaan to khaarej, in do reshte mojazza hastan
[22:12] <MortezaE> CS va Sofware Eng
[22:12] <alireza_> bavar konin in reshte aslan male daneshgah nist
[22:12] <alireza_> iran ham injooriye
[22:12] <alireza_> aha
[22:12] <Azitrex> chera nasheh ?! taraf az bachegish rafteh donbalesh hala ham tu uni dareh dars mikhunhe
[22:12] <MortezaE> moshkel hamine ke tu iran tafkik nashode
[22:12] <MortezaE> CS ba riaziat bishtar sar o kar dare
[22:13] <MortezaE> iran ham?
[22:13] <alireza_> hast baba , oloom computer darim , va mohandesi computer
[22:13] <alireza_> shodan ke mishe , vali ghaedash injoori nist
[22:13] <MortezaE> نمیدونستم. از دانشگاه فاصله گرفتم
[22:14] <alireza_> vala parsal injoori bood , nemidoonam az key injoori shode
[22:14]  * MortezaE don't follow the discussion
[22:14] <MortezaE> aha
[22:15] <alireza_> doost daram ye teame khafan dorost konam
[22:15] <alireza_> too iran darim teame mohandesi ?
[22:16] <alireza_> rasi ye soal ? azitrinx jan , shoma hackeri chizi hasti hoviyateto makhfi negahdashti ? :D
[22:20] <alireza_> morteza hasti ?
[22:23] <alireza_> raftin ?
[22:24] <kaplan_> mohandes means engineer, right?
[22:24] <alireza_> kho shab khosh
[22:24] <alireza_> bb
[22:24] <MortezaE> alireza_, bye :)
[22:24] <MortezaE> kaplan_, yes
[22:25] <alireza_> yes
[22:25] <alireza_> :d
[22:25] <MortezaE> alireza_, he's indian
[22:25] <alireza_> ur not persian ?
[22:25] <kaplan_> no
[22:26] <alireza_> really ?
[22:26] <MortezaE> alireza_, but loves farsi and persians ;)
[22:26] <alireza_> glad to meet u man
[22:26] <MortezaE> especially their girls :D
[22:26] <alireza_> hahaha
[22:27] <kaplan_> Man Hindustani hastam
[22:27] <MortezaE> afarin :)
[22:27] <MortezaE> aafarin
[22:27] <alireza_> how u know persian ?
[22:28] <kaplan_> Learnt it from here and there
[22:28] <alireza_> morteza i was thinking about unipy
[22:28] <MortezaE> he's interested in iran and generally Aryan civilization
[22:28] <MortezaE> alireza_, ?!
[22:29] <MortezaE> btw he is a python programmer :)
[22:29] <MortezaE> also interested in online education
[22:29] <MortezaE> no kaplan_ ? :)
[22:29] <alireza_> and found out only pythone is not enough
[22:30] <MortezaE> right kaplan_ ? (this is correct En structure)
[22:30] <MortezaE> alireza_, why?
[22:31] <alireza_> hahah , keep it one , u will learn persian compeletly
[22:31] <MortezaE> *on
[22:31] <MortezaE> yes, we help him, and there are some non-iranian assistants, too :)
[22:31] <MortezaE> #persian
[22:31] <alireza_> ummm ... u know ?! in each one of code langs u have to know and use another lang ...
[22:31] <alireza_> u`ll fall in need ...
[22:32] <alireza_> so
[22:32] <alireza_> u have to know any lang
[22:32] <MortezaE> but u just was speaking about the site
[22:33] <alireza_> i think thats better to teach any lang and make a connection between them
[22:33] <alireza_> no no , i perrefer to do something better
[22:33] <MortezaE> ولش کن اون زبان انگل‌ها رو :))
[22:33] <MortezaE> انگل‌ها همه چیزشون چپه‌س!
[22:34] <MortezaE> از نوشتنشون بگیر
[22:34] <kaplan_> alireza_, That is exactly what most most programming courses do
[22:34] <MortezaE> تا رانندگیشون و جاده هاشون
[22:34] <alireza_> like making a site with this address " unicod.net
[22:34] <kaplan_> alireza_, they teach you how to solve problems regardless of language
[22:35] <alireza_> and for any lang make a special address like " unipy.net' "unipho.net" ...
[22:35] <alireza_> did u get it ?
[22:35] <MortezaE> kaplan_, Angal (in persian) means Parasite
[22:36] <MortezaE> the Parasitic language :/
[22:36] <MortezaE> i hate it :p
[22:36] <kaplan_> haha
[22:37] <alireza_> so ... what u think guys ?
[22:37] <MortezaE> alireza_, nice idea
[22:37] <alireza_> is it good
[22:37] <alireza_> ?
[22:37] <MortezaE> do u consider it international?
[22:37] <MortezaE> i mean beyond iran?
[22:37] <MortezaE> .net?
[22:37] <alireza_> so i gonna go buy some addreses :d
[22:38] <alireza_> kaplan
[22:38] <kaplan> alireza_, yes?
[22:38] <alireza_> what u think ? its gonna work ?
[22:38] <kaplan> what is gonna work?
 ولش کن اون زبان انگل‌ها رو :))
 انگل‌ها همه چیزشون چپه‌س!
 از نوشتنشون بگیر
 alireza_, That is exactly what most most programming courses do
 تا رانندگیشون و جاده هاشون
[22:39] <alireza_> hahaha , what i was talking about maaaaan ...
[22:39] <kaplan> I didn't understand this
[22:39] <alireza_> dont make me mean :D
[22:39] <kaplan> I can't read farsi very well
[22:39] <MortezaE> kaplan, nevermind, just was joking
[22:40] <MortezaE> about Anglosacson language
[22:40] <kaplan> MortezaE, can you explain what is his idea
[22:40] <alireza_> he said take away that fuckin langs
[22:40] <kaplan> I'm confusedf
[22:40] <alireza_> and lap lap lap ... D:'
[22:40] <MortezaE> he is about to start an online education site
[22:41] <kaplan> What a great idea! Me too!
[22:41] <kaplan> alireza_, do you know Clojure?
[22:41] <MortezaE> yes i refered to you above
[22:41] <alireza_> clojure ??!
[22:41] <MortezaE> .org
[22:42] <alireza_> lemme see
[22:42] <kaplan> alireza_, http://clojure.org
[22:42] <kaplan> It is very easy to learn
[22:42] <kaplan> Took me a day
[22:43] <alireza_> my site gonna be like w3schools.com , but very diffrent
[22:43] <kaplan> ah
[22:43] <kaplan> alireza_, I was thinking something like udemy.com
[22:43] <alireza_> w3shools.com is like a open book to learn web coding langs
[22:44] <kaplan> w3schools isn't even good
[22:44] <kaplan> MDN is much better
[22:44] <alireza_> i know i know
[22:44] <alireza_> my site is like a real school
[22:44] <kaplan> alireza_, yes, that is what I want to build
[22:46] <alireza_> courses , classes, lessens , quizes , video conf , voices , books , froums , and else ...
[22:46] <alireza_> see it
[22:46] <alireza_> main.unipy.ir
[22:47] <alireza_> a school , that learn any codding lang , in english , persian , and else
[22:47] <kaplan> alireza_, exactly what I want to build
[22:47] <alireza_> its not compelete
[22:48] <alireza_> so  wanna make it together ?
[22:48] <alireza_> if u want
[22:49] <kaplan> alireza_, yeah, sure
[22:50] <alireza_> i've been working on it since ayear ago , but some problems happend and i forgot it
[22:51] <alireza_> lemme make it english , and show u the administration panel
[22:51] <alireza_> wait a minute
[22:54] <kaplan> alireza_, which language are you doing it in?
[22:55] <alireza_> english and persian
[22:56] <kaplan> alireza_, I mean programming language
[22:57] <MortezaE> regarding name, seem python!
[22:57] <MortezaE> *seems
[22:57] <kaplan> ah, nice
[22:57] <MortezaE> university for python? hehe
[22:59] <alireza_> sorry ,dc
[23:00] <alireza_> did u see it ?
[23:00] <kaplan> alireza_, no
[23:01] <kaplan> alireza_, what programming language are you using for the backend?
[23:01] <alireza_> php , and system is drupal
[23:02] <alireza_> i made an admin account for u
[23:02] <alireza_> in english lang
[23:02] <MortezaE> for an unknown reason, kaplan hates php
[23:02] <alireza_> see it
[23:02] <alireza_> hahaha
[23:02] <alireza_> no problem
[23:03] <alireza_> it will be in python
[23:03] <alireza_> but i told u
[23:03] <alireza_> its just te begining
[23:04] <kaplan> alireza_, Can we do it in clojure instead?
[23:04] <kaplan> I don't want to use any existing CMSes
[23:05] <alireza_> why not
[23:05] <alireza_> i told morteza
[23:05] <alireza_> im working on my own script
[23:06] <alireza_> and this is just for getting some members
[23:07] <alireza_> after getting big , ill change it to my own script
[23:07] <kaplan> I think we should take a more design oriented approach
[23:08] <alireza_> some of my friends are grapher and they r helping me to make it really beautifull
[23:10] <kaplan> nice
[23:10] <alireza_> look , unipy is not what im thinking about
[23:11] <alireza_> its just a simple site to get sure im not wasting my time
[23:11] <kaplan> ah
[23:12] <alireza_> i have to be sure that this idea gonna be work
[23:12] <alireza_> gonna work*
[23:13] <alireza_> thats why i used cms
[23:13] <alireza_> r u working on ur own site ?
[23:13] <kaplan> yep
[23:13] <alireza_> addres ?
[23:14] <kaplan> https://github.com/akshatj/clj-passport
[23:14] <kaplan> first component of the site
[23:14] <kaplan> User verification
[23:15] <alireza_> its ur script ?
[23:15] <kaplan> It is a library
[23:15] <kaplan> Started writing it 2 days ago
[23:18] <kaplan> alireza_, just contains boilerplate code for now
[23:18] <MortezaE> is an Identity verification an "Authentication system"?
[23:18] <kaplan> MortezaE, no
[23:18] <MortezaE> ok i search about it
[23:19] <kaplan> MortezaE, https://www.edx.org/verified-certificate something like this
[23:19] <MortezaE> aha thx'
[23:19] <alireza_> i see ...
[23:19] <alireza_> actully notthind done :D
[23:20] <MortezaE> he meant he already started it
[23:21] <alireza_> codding ... graphic ... modules... two person ... ummm...
[23:21] <alireza_> 4 ours a day ...
[23:21] <MortezaE> kaplan, i'm curious if jain your real family name?
[23:21] <MortezaE> for some reason
[23:22] <alireza_> about 1.5 year
[23:22] <alireza_> right ?
[23:22] <kaplan> MortezaE, yes it is
[23:22] <alireza_> i should talk to my friends , we need more programmer man :D
[23:23] <kaplan> alireza_, I'll find people
[23:23] <MortezaE> kaplan, :)
[23:23] <kaplan> I am expert at finding people
[23:24] <MortezaE> hehe u knew it!
[23:24] <MortezaE> yes my SO profile was my only real profile
[23:25] <MortezaE> maybe i change it to kafir later :p
[23:29] <kaplan> alireza_, What do you think about IndieGoGo?
[23:29] <alireza_> some good code worms ... nice plan ... "whats going be" list ... good grapher ... agenda ... thinking
[23:30] <alireza_> about 2,3 months later
[23:30] <alireza_> so u ready ?
[23:30] <alireza_> indiegogo ?
[23:30] <alireza_> whats it ?
[23:31] <kaplan> alireza_, you put a project on IndieGoGo and you can raise money for it through donations
[23:31] <kaplan> alireza_, https://www.indiegogo.com/
[23:31] <alireza_> no no no
[23:32] <alireza_> i dont like it :D
[23:32] <kaplan> alireza_, why not?
[23:32] <kaplan> We'd need money to pay for servers
[23:35] <alireza_> my philosophy says that : good idea is like ur child , fuck his mom , make it , born it , grow it .... yourself , and after u find out its done , and u dont enjoy it anymore , u kcan do whatever u want with it
[23:36] <alireza_> but before it ? nooooooooooope
[23:36] <MortezaE> LOL
[23:36] <kaplan> alireza_, ah yes
[23:36] <kaplan> Nice metaphor though
[23:36] <alireza_> i should enjoye it myself at first
[23:37] <kaplan> alireza_, I mean after we have finished the prototype
[23:37] <alireza_> look , u know youtube ?
[23:37] <kaplan> yeaah
[23:37] <alireza_> what a funny question ...
[23:38] <alireza_> so
[23:38] <alireza_> u know who made it ?
[23:38] <kaplan> Yes
[23:38] <alireza_> who ?
[23:38] <kaplan> Steven Chen
[23:38] <alireza_> hehehe
[23:39] <alireza_> thats why i told u i dont want to give it to gogo
[23:40] <kaplan> alireza_, ah, you don't give anything to them
[23:40] <MortezaE> smart :D
[23:40] <kaplan> alireza_, you merely raise money through it
[23:40] <kaplan> It is like going to an investor
[23:40] <kaplan> but the investor here is the world
[23:40] <alireza_> youtube was a univesity project of two iranian boy ...
[23:41] <alireza_> but it was a really good , and new idea
[23:41] <alireza_> so they sold it to a company only 14000 dollors
[23:41] <alireza_> but now
[23:42] <alireza_> whats its price ?
[23:42] <alireza_> huh ?
[23:42] <alireza_> i cant hear u
[23:42] <alireza_> and its price is note important
[23:42] <kaplan> yeah, it is not
[23:43] <alireza_> how much money is making through a day is important :d
[23:43] <kaplan> alright
[23:44] <alireza_> when u can grow ur child dont let nobody do it for u D:
[23:44] <alireza_> so
[23:44] <alireza_> u wanna put it on gogo
[23:44] <alireza_> after that ?
[23:48] <kaplan> It can be a good way to raise money without selling a % of your company to investors
[23:51] <kaplan> alireza__, I have done some research on this
[23:51] <kaplan> There is a huge market for this
[23:51] <kaplan> especially in india
[23:54] <alireza__> look , its better to sell services in site , isnt it ?
[23:55] <kaplan> alireza__, yes
[23:56] <kaplan> alireza__, but there is a huge operational cost with these types of services
[23:57] <kaplan> alireza__, for example Udemy raised 32 million USD for this http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2014/05/08/udemy-raises-32m-to-teach-lifelong-learners-online-around-the-world/
[23:57] <alireza__> nooooooo
[23:58] <alireza__> i mean some service like this :