[13:06] <diwic> Are you going with 3.18 or 3.19 for vivid? I thought it was 3.19 but it isn't yet in the archive...
[13:10] <apw> diwic, we are planning on 3.19, it isn't in the archive only because we have issues with some dkms packages, it is in the CKT PPA
[13:10] <diwic> apw, ack, thanks for the update
[16:10] <awe_> cking, could ( or someone else ) help me determine the device types of both USB ports on my macair?  The online hw specs states it's two USB 3.0 ports, but lsusb shows me a USB 2.0 and 3.0 hub
[16:10] <awe_> neither port uses a colored connector ( as is usual on machines with mixed ports )
[16:12] <cking> awe_, i would have thought lsusb -v will provide enough info
[16:14] <awe_> -v dumps so much damn info, that it makes my head spin
[16:14] <awe_> ;D
[16:14] <awe_> but that said, I guess I can dump to a file and read it a bit more carefully
[16:15] <smb> awe_, maybe lsusb -t helps more but only maybe
[16:18] <awe_> smb, thanks.... a little bit more.  Maybe I'll just reboot into OS X and ask it
[16:18] <cking> yep, compare apple with pear, so to speak
[16:18] <awe_> hah
[16:19] <awe_> that said, wasn't there an app that Dell was lobbying to land that dumped detailed hw info for users?
[16:20] <cking> awe_, you mean something like "hardinfo"?
[16:20] <awe_> I think so... this was a few years back
[16:21] <cking> http://smackerelofopinion.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/hardinfo-look-at-hardware-information.html
[16:21]  * awe_ installing
[16:22] <awe_> course it doesn't output anything useful for USB devices.  ;(
[16:23] <awe_> thanks for the suggestions cking and smb
[16:23] <cking> oh, that's why we use lsusb ;-)
[16:23] <awe_> long time since I've had to come to you guys for help
[16:23] <awe_> ;D
[17:02] <hallyn> apw: sforshee: sorry, i think i've asked before, but to be sure, noone from kernel team is attending lsf/mm, is that right?
[17:03] <apw> hallyn, not i
[17:04] <hallyn> was hoping there'd be someone who coudl talk with clameter and aluto about ambient capabilities
[17:04] <hallyn> (without me having to fly out on my own dime)
[17:04] <sforshee> hallyn: I'm not, was possibly going to bug cannot for personal reasons
[17:04] <sforshee> *but
[17:05] <hallyn> sforshee: right i knew you weren't, was hoping someone from the team was :)
[17:05] <hallyn> ok, thanks
[17:05] <sforshee> yeah no one that I know of