=== Guest33721 is now known as benonsoftware === benonsoftware is now known as Guest48867 === Guest48867 is now known as benonsoftware === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [12:22] infinity, Are you about? === Guest81339 is now known as rcj === rcj is now known as Guest41495 [15:08] moin [15:22] proposed-migration is now running by default for trusty and utopic (in no-automatic-copies mode). I also tweaked the control scripts to make sure proposed-migration runs again if any tests are in progress, so that we don't get stuck if the archive doesn't change but say an autopkgtest finishes. [15:24] cjwatson: o/ [15:24] cjwatson: this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1321691 ? [15:24] Launchpad bug 1321691 in Ubuntu "autopkgtest test suites are not automatically run against SRU uploads" [Undecided,New] [15:24] Or something else? [15:25] Oh, I didn't notice that [15:25] (recently) [15:26] bdmurray: Would you be up for attempting to integrate stable release autopkgtests into pending-sru.html? The best approximately machine-readable form is probably http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/trusty/update_excuses.yaml [15:28] Though we should get rid of the HTML tags from that IMO [15:28] Well, maybe [15:28] Anyway if we knew that u-a-t was using it we could take appropriate care about compatibility [15:44] cjwatson: yes, of course [15:46] lovely, thank you [15:46] what am I looking for in update_excuses? [15:47] anything with the reason set to autopkgtest [15:48] in which case the excuses field will contain more detail [15:48] we could perhaps argue that anything with is_candidate: false should at least be a yellow flag to SRU admins [15:48] and reason/excuses are refinements of that [15:49] that may take a while to settle down though [15:49] yeah, on reflection I think is_candidate: false is the top-level thing to look for [15:50] got it [16:01] cjwatson, how often are those running ? and are the /* results the right ones? [16:01] apw: any time the relevant suites change and also now any time tests are still in progress, same as vivid; and yes [16:02] saw no reason to invent new logic there [16:03] cjwatson, hmm, i have been looking at the generated-date: to confirm proposed-migration is running to completion, that seems flawed in the light of that [16:03] cjwatson, is there some way i can tell otherwise? [16:04] apw: if I understand correctly then you could look at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/log/trusty/ etc. instead [16:04] if it has "Finished at:" at the end then it's good [16:04] the last log [16:05] cjwatson, wergely 9m that last log [16:05] the same strategy was always flawed in principle for the development suite, it's just that it changes all the time [16:06] apw: yeah that's mostly because it's noticing vast piles of binary differences and applying a Debian-specific "smooth updates" thing; I need to work out how to turn that off correctly [16:06] cjwatson, yes indeed, as you say i thought it was safe, because it always runs, i don't think i am downloading that heap to work it out though [16:08] I'll try to do something about that this week if I don't get hopelessly distracted [16:08] Since the log volume will become a problem over time [16:10] cjwatson, it might be that i want to know when the last update to the pocket was, and that proposed migration finished since then [16:12] Perhaps we should put this in the SRU report [16:13] Though it seems slightly like human nagios :-) [17:17] Laney: is it you who's going to be sorting the vervet beta1 images tomorrow? [17:17] yes sir [17:28] Is there anyone here who can review some uploads for Ubuntu MATE that are awaiting review in the upload queue? [17:40] Laney: cool - timezones should be a bit easier then - what time do you think you'll be firing it up? [17:40] Dunno, morning? [17:41] okey - afaik the wiki I set up is right, I'll be gone before you're about likely, around lunchtime then 4ish [17:41] by wiki - I mean I assume that those taking part have said yes [17:42] seemed okay from what I was expecting [17:42] yep [18:18] slangasek: did you get a chance to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/britney/dynamic-arches/+merge/250462 ? [18:18] (thanks for merging the rest of my stack!) [18:19] infinity, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1423597 (MAATE Tweak) [18:19] Launchpad bug 1423597 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] mate-tweak" [Wishlist,New] [18:20] infinity, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1423581 (MATE Menu) [18:20] Launchpad bug 1423581 in Ubuntu " [needs-packaging] mate-menu" [Wishlist,New] [18:20] Ah, there are the MATE tasks now [18:20] * cjwatson kicks off a fresh build [18:21] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-mate/+build/20555 is the amd64 build [18:21] Oh [18:21] I forgot to devirt that [18:21] Bah and thrice bah. Cancelling [18:22] cjwatson, Thanks for your help. I really appreciate. [18:22] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-mate/+build/20557 should be better [18:23] Looks like there's been a batch of KDE uploads, though, so there's a bit of a queue. [18:24] cjwatson, Thanks. I'll check on that later. [18:33] Laney: any clues as to what time tomorrow beta 1 images will be available? [18:48] cjwatson, Does this mean it worked? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-mate/+build/20557 [18:50] flexiondotorg: Looks promising. It's waiting on a few other things - http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu-mate/vivid/daily-live-20150223.1.log is updated every 15 minutes [18:51] I'm just watching it on the build system [18:51] cjwatson, So would that job you started produce a cd image? Or is that just a job for the livefs? [18:51] It should do the whole thing [18:52] The livefs is built on Launchpad and then the rest of it assembled separately [18:54] cjwatson, Thanks for the info. Will be interesting to see what it does, if anything. [18:57] flexiondotorg: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/daily-live/current/ [18:58] cjwatson, Wow! Brilliant. [18:58] cjwatson, Thanks for your help. I'll give it a test and see what is busted. [18:58] flexiondotorg: You can probably reasonably ignore the oversized warning for now, since the size limit is a bit arbitrary anyway, but perhaps there's stuff there that shouldn't be. Anyway, it's more important to see whether it works at all first. [18:59] cjwatson, I think I ship way more language than the other flavours. [18:59] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu-mate.vivid/ may be useful too. [18:59] cjwatson, Thanks. [19:00] flexiondotorg: I've set it to build nightly, now that it at least somewhat works. [19:00] So hopefully you can take it from here. [19:00] cjwatson, Excellent. I taken some days of work later this week to try and knock everything into shape. [19:01] Great. === guest11233454645 is now known as Streamstormer [19:02] flexiondotorg: Sorry, on a call. [19:03] infinity, No problem 😃 [19:03] infinity, I've pushed the copyright changes, updated the original package requests. I think cyphermox is going to upload them. [19:11] finally, lp:ubuntu-cdimage tests pass again [19:11] hopefully they can be kept that way :P [19:15] stgraber: I guess "Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64" and "Ubuntu MATE Desktop i386" should exist on the tracker at some point now? [19:17] is that going to impact on beta tomorrow? [19:18] what, mate? [19:18] yea [19:18] I don't see how [19:18] if it's going on tracker [19:18] won't make a difference [19:18] cjwatson: by impact I mean - do they want to do that [19:18] I think you misunderstand [19:18] probably [19:18] all the images we build should exist on the tracker [19:19] that's not the same as tracking them for a particular milestone [19:19] it means that they can be tracked for milestones in the future [19:19] yes I understand that - just assuming that if it is on the tracker that Mate would want to use *it* [19:20] well, that's up to them [19:20] but I would like the error messages from cdimage about the lack of tracker support to go away :) [19:20] :) [19:20] I can understand that as well :p [19:20] I would think that it's far too late for ubuntu-mate to be ready for beta [19:21] I could be wrong, but it would be pretty exceptional speed even if working full-time on it [19:21] and I understand not all their packages are in yet [19:23] right - actually only asked as I wasn't awake and I put my name down onReleaseTaskSignup :) [19:29] elfy, Remember you said you'd show me round the QA stuff 😉 [19:30] cjwatson, There are 3 packages missing. [19:31] 2 of those are in the upload queue. [19:31] elfy: fair enough :) [19:31] flexiondotorg: *nod* [19:33] cjwatson, So would you expect to ubiquity to fail if there are missing packages? [19:33] Still downloading the iso... [19:33] flexiondotorg: I can't find that anywhere in my logs :p [19:35] flexiondotorg: Probably not; it'll mostly be copying the filesystem it's given [19:35] flexiondotorg: place for that with me would be #ubuntu-quality though [19:36] cjwatson, Interesting, thanks. [19:36] * flexiondotorg goes to join #ubuntu-quality === guest123456 is now known as Streamstormer [19:47] cjwatson, Initial testing is positive 😃 [19:47] Cool. No need to tell me about further progress though, I was just the build monkey :) [19:48] cjwatson, It might be suitable for Beta1. Is that even possible at this stage? [19:48] I don't know, ask the people driving it [19:48] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseTaskSignup [19:49] It would be pretty amazing to be able to do a milestone three days after your first images roll out, but I guess it's possible [19:57] flexiondotorg: as far as I'm concerned - all I'd want to know is that you wanted to take part and that Ubuntu MAte was on the beta1 wiki before I wander off in the morning [19:57] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Beta1 [19:57] elfy, I want to participate. [19:59] elfy, I have updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Beta1 [19:59] elfy, Although it looks like my changes need approving. [20:00] it was there - dodgy wiki error - I moved you though :) [20:00] stgraber, actually I have no permissions to set owners on iso.qa.ubuntu.com.. can you fix that? [20:01] Laney: just in case you don't notice - Mate added to Beta 1 run [20:03] elfy, Thanks. [20:05] cjwatson: only use update_excuses for Trusty and Utopic though correct? [21:00] balloons: so what's the LP team for MATE access to the tracker? [21:00] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-release [21:00] stgraber: ^^ [21:04] ok, access updated [21:05] ty stgraber - I see that here [22:52] bdmurray: For now, but it'll hopefully exist for precise fairly soon too. Never lucid though. [22:59] cjwatson: something like this? http://people.canonical.com/~brian/tmp/sru-report.html [23:00] bdmurray: looks pretty good! [23:00] (modulo lack of line breaks and such in a few places which I'm sure you've spotted) [23:01] but yeah, that's pretty close to what I was thinking of. Indeed probably doesn't make sense to introduce a new column and have the page be even wider [23:01] cjwatson: right, I'll fix that up [23:50] I don't seem to be able to upload thunar to vivid/vivid-proposed... "The signer of this package is lacking the upload rights for the source package, component or package set in question." I still appear to be in the packageset, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/vivid/xubuntu - any idea whats going on? [23:55] bluesabre: Seems a bit odd. It's in mythbuntu and studio, but not xubuntu [23:57] ScottK: don't suppose there's an easy resolution? :) [23:57] Easy is ask Laney and wait. Won't be quick however. [23:58] ok, np [23:58] Thanks ScottK