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knightwisemorning everyone06:32
mappshi knightwise06:39
MooDoomorning all08:12
Myrttimorning08:15
knightwisehey Myrtti  , MooDoo08:21
knightwisehow are you gyys08:21
knightwiseguys08:21
MooDooyeah ok now i've gotten rid [mostly] of this tummy bug08:22
SuperMattword up yo08:47
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:49
knightwisehey brobostigon how are you doing today08:53
brobostigonhi knightwise , not bad, and you?08:53
knightwisebusy monday morning , should learn not to schedule meetings before I have had my coffee08:55
brobostigonoh dear,08:55
davmor2Morning all09:08
brobostigonmorning davmor209:09
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Myrttiknightwise: still sore from wearing high heels09:55
knightwiseMyrtti: what party did you go to ?10:00
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Monday, and happy Banana Bread Day! :-D10:02
zmoylan-pione, a happy monday is a contradiction in terms and two pass the banananananana bread10:04
awilkinsUrg, bananas10:05
JamesTaitBanana bread is wonderful stuff.10:05
awilkinsOh lawks, save me from people who check build products into version contorl10:05
zmoylan-pihmmm, they don't sell banana bread but i think i know where i can get a banana and walnut muffin10:06
knightwisezmoylan-pi: hmmmm muffins! ! !10:09
* awilkins couldn't get English muffins in Tesco yesterday10:10
awilkinsThis foiled my planned breakfast of egg and ham muffin with salsa10:10
Myrttiknightwise: my own wedding10:24
* Laney screams10:24
Myrttiwhich reminds me10:25
Laneycan't comment on a wordpress blog because it thinks I have an account, which I don't10:25
Laneythen denies I have one when I try to reset the password10:25
Laneyand the 'recovery' form asks for some kind of proof that wordpress will trust10:26
Myrttithere we go. Realname changed10:26
Laneywhich I don't have because I never made the account in the first place10:26
Laneyit's because they merged with Gravatar or something, but the integration is half arsed10:26
knightwise Myrtti congratssssss10:29
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Seeker`Myrtti: /nick MSample?10:44
MyrttiSeeker`: you're late, I did that fo10:57
Myrttir Friday and Saturday10:57
Seeker`ah, damn, I missed it10:58
MyrttiI did it even in ircnet10:58
Myrttithey don't have services so there was a chance I had lost Myrtti10:59
davmor2Myrtti: I have to say your name sound like something done at a hospital now, but on a huge plus side Congratulations to both of you \o/11:04
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Myrttiwell, at least you can spell it now11:13
popey\o/ Congratulations Myrtti!11:14
popeytopic11:15
popeybah11:15
davmor2Myrtti: true to11:15
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popey:)11:15
Seeker`\o/11:15
davmor2JamesTait: bread and banana is that not just a banana sandwich11:29
zmoylan-piooooh, a bananananana sandwich for lunch might be nice, if i can find a banananananana ripe enough11:29
JamesTaitMyrtti! Congratulations! \o/11:29
JamesTaitdavmor2, good grief, no!11:30
awilkinsGFs favourite banana trick is to freeze them and then shove them in a blender with milk to make a banana milkshake11:30
popeyooh!11:30
popeygood one11:30
davmor2JamesTait: Banana Sandwich is yummy though.11:30
popeyso no ice cream needed?11:30
popeyPeanut butter and banana is also delicious.11:31
popeyWhich I only "discovered" recently11:31
JamesTaitdavmor2, I won't argue with that.11:31
zmoylan-piisn't that what killed elvis?11:31
zmoylan-pioh wait he fried those sandwiches i think11:31
JamesTaitpopey, I recently "discovered" mini banoffee pie - take a digestive biscuit, spread dulce de leche on it, and slice a banana on top of that.11:32
zmoylan-piAND the drugs...11:32
davmor2JamesTait: you're just not right in the head are you ;)11:43
JamesTaitdavmor2, I never claimed otherwise. ;)11:44
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davmor2JamesTait: I blame that beuno he is bad influence :D11:45
JamesTaitI couldn't possibly comment.11:45
davmor2hahahaha11:49
erophello there11:51
eropi can't access to ubuntu channel normal ?11:51
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davmor2erop: how do you mean?12:03
eropwhat i m saying is12:03
eropi can't able to access on  ubuntu channel12:04
eropon freenode12:04
eroprev.poneytelecom.eu12:05
eropmy isp12:05
davmor2erop: /join #ubuntu should get you in, the only reason you wouldn't is if you are kicked or blocked aiui12:05
shaunothere appears to be a ban in place12:05
eropwhat is the reason of ban ?12:06
shaunono idea, it doesn't say12:07
shaunoif you don't believe it was intended for you, you might want to ask in #ubuntu-ops whether they can replace it with a ban that's less wide12:09
popeyerop: /join #ubuntu-ops  to find out12:09
popeyoh, he has12:09
shaunoah, lovely12:09
shauno(my connection is horribly latent this morning, so I'm hamstrung)12:09
shaunotyping into ssh feels like sending postcards to freenode :(12:09
zmoylan-piwait till apple builds their data centre and see how the speeds go :-)12:10
shaunoheh, I was looking at that.  trying to figure out exactly where they're talking about12:10
zmoylan-pi100% renewable in galway, that rules out solar :-)12:11
* davmor2 pictures shauno say "please isp can I have some more" isp replying "More, you want More BOY!!!"12:11
shaunoit's this new 3g dongle.  I can't find words for it suitable for a family-friendly channel12:11
zmoylan-piwell the packets have a terrible head wind to beat today :-)12:12
shaunoindeed12:12
shaunothis apple thing is weird.  they say athenry, and then derrydonnel forest.  which is in roscommon12:14
davmor2Man I'm kinda glad to be in England and not New England right now :)12:15
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zmoylan-pi[Oymyakon, Russia] Condition: Mostly Cloudy | Temp: -33C/-30F/240K/429R | Humidity: 77% | Wind Speed 0mph/0kmph12:18
shaunomeh, I've cycled in -4012:19
zmoylan-pi-50 last week12:19
zmoylan-pithey've had -7012:19
davmor2zmoylan-pi: I was thinking more of the 3 meters of snowfall12:20
davmor2and counting12:20
davmor2metres even12:20
shauno(I still maintain -40 is safer than -4, since no-one can get their cars to start :)12:21
zmoylan-pithey should ask the russians for one of their snow clearing machines that uses plane jet engine :-) http://gizmodo.com/5332274/in-russia-snowblowers-use-mig-15-jets/12:22
zmoylan-piin siberia they set the engine on fire to unfreeze the fuel in it12:22
awilkins Linux 4.0 codename  : "Hurr durr I'ma sheep"12:22
awilkins REAL ENTERPRISEY12:22
zmoylan-pibetter than os/2 ferengi? :-)12:23
zmoylan-piandroid kitkat12:23
awilkinsYeah, they light a fire under the engine block. Damn diesel.12:23
zmoylan-pimicrosoft bob...12:25
davmor2awilkins: Linus did a poll on g+ for version number and name that's what people voted for :D12:27
zmoylan-piletting the internet vote... :-)12:28
zmoylan-piso much for g+ been a more /serious/ social network12:28
davmor2zmoylan-pi: there were only 2 choices and both were kinda bad,  "I went with 4.0 cause I can't handle big numbers" or "hurr durr I'm a sheep"  iirc12:30
shaunoreminds me of one where Slovakia let people vote on the name for a new bridge.  Chuck Norris won ..12:40
davmor2shauno: chunk norris always wins that's why he's chunk norris ;)12:40
zmoylan-pithe bbc had a competition for favourite song and 'a nation once again' got a /few/ votes :-)12:41
shauno'chunk' norris is a very strange mental picture ;)12:42
davmor2chuck even :P12:43
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diddledanmorning13:31
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knightwisehey diddledan13:43
shaunoo/13:43
davmor2diddledan: hello13:44
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diddledanoh dear. nvidia done a booboo: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/nvidia-slammed-with-class-action-lawsuit-over-geforce-gtx-970-specifications/14:14
zmoylan-pithis is more nvidia been tackled over a booboo than an actual booboo as they do lots of booboos.14:17
zmoylan-pii have now used my quota of the word booboo for today :-)14:17
directhexhttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mN2ZCjOtk3U/U50keBU9_WI/AAAAAAAAA9g/FjpF_mUsnl8/s1600/5.png14:22
diddledandirecthex, \o/14:22
diddledandirecthex, you have a png for every occasion?14:22
directhexdiddledan: not per se - i know the right png to search for for every occasion, though14:24
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diddledanknightwise, I've now listened to a few of your podcasts - well done dude, they're good14:26
knightwisethanx diddledan :)14:26
knightwiseglad you enjoy them14:26
diddledanI like the music intro :-)14:26
knightwisethanx :) Its composed by steve cherebino14:27
diddledananyone know a reason why a path that exists in a git repo is reporting that it isn't when I use git blame?14:33
diddledanoh right, blame works on files not dirs14:34
diddledanok ignore me14:34
awilkinsYes. Git has no concept of "a directory"15:05
davmor2awilkins: that's cause it's a git15:07
diddledanand bzr is just bazaar15:19
diddledanspeelign?15:19
diddledanbazarre?15:19
awilkinsMercurial is just too prone to changing quickly15:21
shaunooh man.  I was reading a *recent* discussion about whether it was time to upgrade from RCS to CVS yet15:21
diddledanshauno, nowai?15:22
diddledanshauno, are you allowed to tell us the context?15:22
dogmatic69_knightwise:  where is your amazing podcast?15:23
diddledandogmatic69_, knightwise.com15:24
dogmatic69_ta15:25
Myrttiright15:33
Myrttibeen to see The Imitation Game15:33
Myrttislight disappointment15:33
diddledanany good?15:33
diddledanaww15:33
Myrttitheory of everything was better15:34
Myrttiand reminded me of my first choice for brides entry music15:34
Myrttiwhich we ended up using15:35
shaunoI liked the imitation game.  as long as you take it as a story about how absurdly we treated him, rather than the enigma plot itself15:40
awilkinsWhen I got to my last job, they had been discussing, for 2 years, whether to use CVSNT or Visual SourceSafe 6.015:42
Seeker`awilkins: thats a long meeting. I hope they provided food.15:43
awilkinsWithin my first 2 weeks on the job I had installed Subversion and uploaded all the content into it15:43
awilkinsBecause NO WAY was I using either of those things for source control15:43
shaunoreminds me of the last CRM move we made.  it was largely disasterous, and called a success15:43
awilkinsHehehe15:44
shaunoit turns out the people calling it a success, had been here when we made the previous move - when involved going back to pen & paper for 6 months15:44
awilkinsThere's a team at my old job who wanted our help with a Wordpress instance they set up15:44
dogmatic69_awilkins:  if SVN is better than CVSNT / SourceSafe, they must be really terrible...15:44
awilkinsSourceSafe is utterly utterly horrible15:44
* dogmatic69_ says things like that about SVN15:45
awilkinsSVN was lovely in comparison15:45
awilkinsI think I adopted it around 0.29 or 0.32 ish15:45
dogmatic69_busy moving work from SVN to GIt15:45
awilkinsYes, these days I'm a Git person (after a brief flirtation with bzr)15:45
awilkinsI liked Bazaar's handling of SVN integration better15:50
awilkinsI think they kinda muffed up the way Git integrates with SVN15:51
awilkins(doesn't help that it uses Perl and it's the SLOWEST THING EVAH on Windows)15:51
diddledanis it bzr that launchpad uses extensively?16:02
diddledani.e. canonical16:03
davmor2diddledan: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/migration/en/foreign/bzr-on-git-projects.html16:04
awilkinsdiddledan, Yeah Canonical invented Bazaar16:07
awilkinsI used Bazaar for an internal project for a few reasons i) Bazaar has an easier CLI for standard users to grasp ii) Git wasn't ready for WIndows at the time iii) SVN was way too slow16:12
awilkinsMercurial just flat out didn't work because of the way it stored metadata16:12
awilkinsBazaar went from being 4x the speed of SVN on that tree to about 12x16:12
awilkins(just for checkouts)16:12
diddledanhttps://mrkr.io/6N97vWe5Xe16:38
diddledanjoy16:38
davmor2diddledan: hahahaha16:41
diddledanclicking the "more info" type link shows that google says it has never detected any bad software in the past 90 days and that it currently isn't listed as a bad site..?!16:41
diddledaneh?16:41
diddledanhttp://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http%3A%2F%2Fdownloads.sourceforge.net%2Fproject%2Fpidgin%2FPidgin%2F2.10.11%2Fpidgin-2.10.11.exe%3Fr%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fpidgin.im%252F%26ts%3D1424709611%26use_mirror%3Dheanet&client=googlechrome&hl=en-GB16:41
shaunoI don't trust downloads from sourceforge anymore.  they've lost their way.16:44
diddledanchrome won't let me download pidgin-2.10.11.exe, either16:44
diddledansays it might harm my browsing experience and therefore it has been blocked16:44
shaunoit might be right :)16:45
davmor2diddledan: I wonder how many of these things is Windows getting back at google by getting the top 200 sites blocked by google chrome :D16:45
awilkinsSourceforge, ugh16:47
awilkinsOur work blocked them, but it was because we might install "Open Source software"16:47
shaunoI don't use them because they've taken to bundling malware.16:48
awilkinsYup16:51
shaunoeg, their 'enchanced' installer for filezilla comes with complimentary copies of the ask toolbar, and 'hotspot shield'.  on osx, it comes with mackeeper16:51
diddledanspeaking of which: https://forum.filezilla-project.org/viewtopic.php?t=3522816:51
shaunothis one's more entertaining; https://forum.filezilla-project.org/viewtopic.php?t=3024016:53
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mappshi all17:12
diddledanjapanese alps (donno when it was taken - the caption claimed it was in america but it was lying): https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11001744_776989345718622_1418677694130146446_n.jpg?oh=c54bf2ca55ca017d89655e6eeb5f56ba&oe=554E030717:13
diddledanallo mapps17:13
shaunothe alps are in japan now?  please don't austria, they may not survive the shock17:14
diddledanhttps://www.chillingeffects.org/notices/1041608117:19
diddledanmusic being distributed by https://www.archlinux.org/download, eh?17:20
diddledanand http://nmap.org/download.html?17:20
diddledan... etc.17:20
shaunolol, seriously17:21
shaunodo they have an album named .zip or something?17:22
diddledandonno - their "official" url is a redirect loop17:23
diddledanso I can't work out what they claim is being infringed17:23
shaunoman, they're busy little beavers - http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/copyright/reporters/40594/Total-Wipes-Music-Group/?p=1017:25
diddledanlol, knightwise , you knit? :-p17:25
diddledanI tried it as a teenager/kid17:25
diddledan1200 resq17:26
diddledanreqs per week17:26
diddledancirca 4000urls in those requests per week17:27
shaunoit's a shame you can't sort by the last column17:27
diddledanjee, they've nearly his 200k URLs total17:29
diddledanhit*17:29
diddledansince may last year17:29
diddledan23k urls in the past week17:29
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diddledanI'm not sure I really want VR18:36
diddledane.g. oculus18:36
diddledanjust listening to a podcast about webvr18:36
davmor2diddledan: what's wrong with Victory Roars?19:10
AzelphurI just oven tricked my GPU...and it worked20:13
Azelphuraww yis :P20:13
diddledancloudflare are disabling rc4 on ssl: https://blog.cloudflare.com/end-of-the-road-for-rc4/20:28
diddledanteehee: https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10387299_667638803345190_7914584083263558507_n.jpg?oh=8be0e73d033bcdde592f55dd44b09c4c&oe=558E122D20:30
diddledanmethinks it's prolly fake20:31
mappsbrrr chilly here21:01
mappsonly 14c21:01
mapps;p21:01
diddledanmapps, beach weather then?21:47
zmoylan-pi[Dublin, DUB, Ireland] Condition: Light Rain Shower/Windy | Temp: 3C/37F/276K/496R | Humidity: 93% | Wind Speed 43mph/69kmph21:48
diddledanI've no idea what it is here21:48
zmoylan-piand here is...21:48
shaunosilly question.  12:30am and 00:30 are the same thing, right?21:52
mappsteehee diddledan21:52
mapps:D21:52
mapps16c during day is ok21:52
mappssun and everything21:52
diddledanshauno, yeah methinks so21:52
shaunota21:52
shauno(I thought so, but as soon as I tried to explain why, my brain nope'd and ran away)21:53
diddledanlol21:54
diddledanI have trouble with 12:00 (24 hour) being equal to 12:00pm21:56
diddledanspecifically on the hour21:57
shaunoI just don't use 12hr21:57
diddledanme either21:57
* zmoylan-pi roots for decimal time... :-)21:57
shaunobut someone's complaining about having something scheduled for 00:3021:57
diddledanzmoylan-pi, swatch internet time?21:57
shaunoand insists on 12:30am eastern instead21:58
shaunoand my brain is sitting here waving white flags21:58
diddledaneh?21:58
diddledanthat doesn't make sense21:58
shaunohence why I had to double-check I'm not losing it :)21:58
zmoylan-pino, that's beat time.  decimal time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time21:58
diddledan"sorry, but midnight thirty is out of the question. how about midnight thirty instead?"21:58
shaunoso the tech is scheduled for 00:30.  the customer demands 12:30am instead.  as long as they never mention this to each other, it should be okay21:59
shaunootherwise I will cry21:59
diddledancrying is totally a valid option22:00
shaunohm, metric time would make timezones 36 degrees wide?22:04
diddledaneek22:06
shaunothat'd be interesting.  if you put zero-line through paris (because it's metric!), +1hr would run through moscow22:08
awilkinsCheck they don't mean 1230pm22:15
awilkinsThey might just be an idiot and think that 1230 (24hr) is in the morning22:15
shaunowe've already clarified it's the wee hours, because we had to double-check what calendar day it was too22:16
awilkinsGood.22:16
awilkinsClients. Meh.22:16
shaunohumans, in general :)22:16
diddledanI still think that business would be better off if clients were eliminate3d22:31
shaunoI dunno about eliminated.  but amazon-style "frustration-free packaging" would be nice22:32
diddledanlol22:32

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