[05:34] Hello [05:43] o/ [05:43] you over in charlotte? [05:43] trying to think where all road runner is.. [05:44] yes [05:44] enjoy it before it becomes fibre [05:45] google fiber? [05:45] yup [05:45] nice [05:45] that'll make some prices competitive.. [05:45] everyone is super excited, but it will still be like 5 years before it's up and running [05:46] well, the other folks will be beefing up and charging less, though.. ASAP [05:46] magically freeing up bandwidth ;) [05:47] it is magical lol [05:47] so, what's you distro [05:48] i use a bunch... [05:48] ubuntu, etc [05:48] i like crunchbang.. [05:48] i use a chromeOS chromebook as well [05:48] AVlinux for audio production.. debian based [05:48] I tried crunch bang, but i had problems setting it up on my mac [05:49] interesting [05:49] i used reFit.. have one of the white early 32bit intel macbooks running #! [05:49] i got a new lappy and i'm running bb. it seems to be working fine [05:50] i have a bunch of machines im putting ubuntu mate on.. the upcoming 15.04 release [05:50] its nice [05:50] refit stopped working when yosemite came out [05:50] they changed the boot method [05:50] i only help others with yosemite.. [05:50] my machine has linux only on it [05:51] not that i use it much anymore.. [05:51] ohhh [05:51] i have to say, i dont know what "bb" is.. [05:51] backbox, sorry [05:51] as far as an operating system.. blackberry was all i was coming up with ;) [05:52] OK.. i have looked at bb, then [05:52] had an issue, and decided to just make my own [05:52] that's a good move [05:52] eh [05:52] if i had the skill i would too [05:52] #! has sources too [05:53] but, #! is just more like how i would set a machine up, by default [05:53] i'm trying to get into infosec, so it was either bb or kali [05:53] its handy that way.. if its not how one sets up a machine, its probably less handy, then [05:53] yeah, i have used kali live [05:53] and kali isn't very customizable [05:53] seemed to work "better".. for me, though i was expecting to be able to install backbox [05:54] customisible [05:54] ... [05:54] yeah, i use it "as-is" [05:54] i just run it live each time.. not really setting anything [05:54] but, i was looking to backbox for an installation, that had those tools [05:54] yeah, it is definitely good for that [05:55] it's ok [05:55] they're super proud of this new release [05:55] i could just add that ppa to what i want [05:55] https://launchpad.net/~backbox/+archive/ubuntu/four [05:55] but i've been having so bugs [05:55] pasley: thats actually good to hear. i thought it was just me ;) [05:56] lol [05:56] i mean, with ppa packages, i typically dont bother reporting bugs, unless i know the folks running the ppa [05:56] yeah, i figured since i'm new to linux i could just spend sometime trying to fix it [05:56] yeah, may workout [05:57] though, it could also just frustrate you.. [05:57] as long as you are enjoying it, i say go for it [05:57] yes [05:58] i will say it's one of the few distros i've expirienced that recognizes my wireless [05:58] well, any ubuntu 14.04 should [05:58] i tried knoppix for a while, but i needed the tools [05:58] anything based on that kernel [05:59] mint hasn't [05:59] knoppix didn't [05:59] pasley: the mint with the same kernel should [05:59] knoppix will be a newer kernel [05:59] the ubuntu 14.04 kernel is actually a bit older now [05:59] of course, they could just have some broadcom blob you need already installed [05:59] !broadcom [06:00] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [06:00] i have no idea how to match kernels [06:00] that's the thing. [06:00] pasley: well, if backbox, based on 14.04, supports some hardware.. then, another distro with the same kernel will support the same hardware [06:00] to go there i'd have to hook up the lan [06:00] the drivers are in the modular kernel.. unless its a blob that they add [06:00] don't exactly own this wifi [06:01] sure [06:01] but, there are "offline" instructions [06:01] ... [06:01] oh [06:01] same link? [06:01] you *can* get the broadcom .deb with whatever live iso or windows or some other box.. etc [06:01] pasley: i did it from that link, ages ago.. i dont know what your hardware is, specifically, though [06:02] personally, i take broadcom chips out and replace them, when i have that luxury [06:02] i'll read it and figure it out [06:02] thank you [06:02] sure... thank me when it works out for you :) [06:02] i liked knoppix [06:02] yup.. knopiix is great [06:02] but it heats the fuck out of my mac [06:03] oh wait [06:03] i already said about the tools [06:03] one of my go to diagnostic distros [06:03] it liked how it was clean [06:03] and of course i liked compiz [06:03] the GPU drivers will be what they are.. [06:03] could be the open nvidia drivers, or whatever. vs the proprietary ones [06:03] one or the other can heat things up.. [06:04] i didn't know where to begin [06:04] but i do now [06:04] thanks again [06:04] buuuut.... i probably won [06:04] t [06:05] reinstall anytime soon [06:05] well, ideally, it would begin with the manufacturer promising you linux support, and providing it, since, *all* of linux is open, and freely available for them to support [06:05] but, when they dont.. it can be challenging.. [06:05] and if i can get compiz to work on here., then ill be on this for a good good while [06:05] even apple could do that.. and knoppix would run cool and quiet.. with nice frame rates.. etc [06:06] i really liked compiz when i first started using linux [06:06] you might like ubuntu mate.. its more "legacy" like that [06:06] wasn't there a big outcry when invidia made their code proprietary, i feel like i heard that in the news [06:06] nvidia? [06:06] yes [06:06] my b [06:06] nvidia's codes has never been open [06:07] there are attempts to make open nvidia drivers.. but, thats just folks doing what they can.. reverse engineering.. etc [06:07] ah, that would make sense [06:07] imean, they may release something open.. but, not the drivers to their stuff [06:07] the blobs just add drivers.. when you add them to linux [06:08] modules.. [06:09] if they did release it open, or give information so that drivers can be written, then, it would be more like intel hardware typically is. where,things just "magically" work [06:09] plug and play, so they say. since all the drivers are in the kernel.. baked in.. basically [06:10] and, its modular, so, if you have all those open drivers, and you pull the drive, and move it to another machine with different hardware, it'll just work [06:10] no need to install other drivers on that hardware.. assuming again, all the hardware supports linux well [06:11] weird [06:15] ok, i gotta get up early and drive.. cheers! [06:15] pasley: good to meet you.. [06:16] the channel is super slow, but, maybe we can revive it.. [06:22] ha! [06:22] i think i just proved your point [06:22] i will be back [06:23] nice to meet you too