[03:28] good mornings [03:31] o/ [03:39] gremble: have you added your name yet [03:39] ? [03:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members [05:45] morning all [05:45] and ty inetpro [05:45] you are late [05:45] oh hi Kilos [05:46] i been getting sis off to work [05:46] :-) [05:47] see that was basically the idea with the numbers [05:47] i dont know how we will get peeps in order of joining [05:47] but anyway [05:47] you didnt answer yesterday [05:47] do your homework [05:48] joining za and joining launchpad can be 2 different dates right [05:48] yes [05:48] ai! [05:48] and joining officially is yet another date [05:49] so who keeps the dates of when peeps joined za [05:49] ai! [05:49] new idea! [05:49] ask/beg/plead with eveyone to add and/or update their own info [05:50] that might get some list guys involved [05:50] add that to the meets agenda for discussion [05:52] and [05:52] and [05:53] the team reports thing ai! [05:53] do you want to have to fix that as well [05:55] hi bduk1 wb [05:56] hi gremble you early today [05:57] haha idea! [05:57] he can mathematically solve my probs [05:59] hi bmg505 [06:13] * Kilos waves to tumbleweed and cocooncrash [06:18] mornings [06:18] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:23] Morning [06:23] hi Jacques_Stry [06:34] * Kilos needs to borrow that surname so i can stand up against gustav strydom [06:36] inetpro well done sir! [06:38] * Kilos likes the new page [06:43] lol who's gustav? [06:43] the pro [06:44] O I C [06:44] hehe [06:46] So next meeting is tomorrow night? [06:46] yessir [06:52] Did a quick scan of previous meetings minutes, could be interesting - will attend [06:52] thats good news [06:58] o/ [06:58] oh hi [06:59] hi nuvolari jy mis al die sports [06:59] eh? [06:59] wat gebeur oom? [06:59] baie. het jy trello [07:04] hi SDCDev [07:04] go home now so you can start working [07:04] Morning everyone [07:04] hi mazal barry sukkel nog [07:05] Ja hy gaan nou konversation try , maar moet hom nog eers install en dis malhuis hier [07:05] Sal seker deur die dag dit doen [07:05] mooi [07:05] Does anybody know who is the administrator of the ubuntu-za mailing list ? [07:05] i think the fly [07:05] why? [07:06] superfly: Are you the admin of the ubuntu-za mailing list ? [07:06] he is afk [07:06] oi , ok I see now [07:06] whats the prob ? [07:07] I need my email adress changed [07:07] To my new email addy [07:07] then just go join again with your new addy [07:08] I was hoping that would not be neccesary [07:08] lol [07:08] you might have a long wait, he is very busy [07:09] I can't even remember where the commands are of how to remove one and add the other [07:10] oi [07:10] are there such commands? [07:10] That's some one uses once to join and then never again :P [07:11] sjoe [07:11] Ya you most have to email something to a certain list addy to add [07:12] And there is also one that you mail to cancel [07:16] Ok I got the new one added , now must just get the old one removed [07:17] ok [07:19] Old removed. That was easy :) I followed the link from the ubuntu-za website and from there it was very clear and easy steps ;) [07:19] good work [07:19] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za [07:20] unsubscribe is the last box [07:20] Now I must just wait for someone to email something to the mailing to see if it all worked [07:20] someone should answer my mail this morning [07:20] Morning ThatGraemeGuy, wb [07:20] ty [07:34] hi Padroni [07:34] HI [07:34] how are you? [07:34] good ty and you [07:34] good thanx [07:34] windy in CT today [07:34] :/ [07:41] hi barrydk [07:41] More almal [07:41] hi barrydk [07:42] Oom Kilos: Ons het hom reg ;) [07:42] barry is back :) [07:42] mooi julle [07:42] Is this the right place looks like a lot of new peeps here? [07:42] hehe [07:43] * Padroni is about to ask for help.... brace yourselves... [07:43] oh my [07:44] I have 3 x MicroITX formfactor pc's [07:45] 3.2Ghz dual core P4 @ 1GB Ram each [07:45] best debian / ubuntu based distro to use on those? [07:45] anything from 12.04 up tends to grind it to a halt [07:46] i use a 3g dual core with 4g ram and run kubuntu 14.04 fine on it [07:46] oh my [07:47] I need it to do 2 things: stream movies / series off my file server via wifi (for now) [07:47] Padroni you like the mac look? [07:47] and play stuff off youtube [07:47] * Padroni looks over to his iMac that has been used as a dust collector for 18 months now... [07:47] Padroni: Did you try the Lubuntu or Xubuntu flavours ? [07:47] not particularly - I just need it to rn on those specs and WORK [07:48] which version though? [07:48] coz I am two comments away of installing Windows 98 up on that bitch [07:48] elementaryos is based on 12.04 but much faster [07:48] I would say 14.04.02 [07:48] 12.04 is supported till 2017 [07:48] please don't make me install Win98 [07:48] i don't care for support [07:49] i can reinstall [07:49] so it does not have to update [07:49] Lubuntu is the lightest that I know of [07:49] it must just work... [07:49] haha I missed the device - what do you want to install this on? [07:49] 12.04 has least updates [07:49] Yeah , but go for 12.04.5 then [07:50] @ jacques_ I have 3 x MicroITX formfactor pc's [07:50] 3.2Ghz dual core P4 @ 1GB Ram each [07:50] i had that on 12.04 [07:50] bombed out [07:50] more ram will help lots [07:50] p4 [07:50] Did you try Lubuntu though ? [07:50] ram is hard to find for those [07:50] If you want to use them as HTPC then go with Kodibuntu [07:50] Not unity [07:50] kodibuntu? [07:50] * Padroni fires up Google-blech [07:51] ddr ram? [07:51] I use it on mine - boots straight in to kodi but is based on lubuntu [07:51] ddr 400 [07:51] works fine on 1gb or ram [07:52] MicroITX does not offer video though [07:52] so it's onboard vid only [07:53] what board is it [07:54] http://ark.intel.com/products/39682/Intel-Desktop-Board-DG41MJ [07:54] DG41MJ [07:54] I have two of those [07:54] as well as a Asus EEEPC [07:55] g41 chip has integrated HW decoding so will work perfectly for HTPC [07:56] I have tried XBMC but not a fan of that [07:56] that is if your stuff is ON the pc you are working from. Mine is on a file server [07:56] mine is on file server too [07:57] hmmm [07:57] i will try kodibuntu then and report back [07:57] you just add the shares to you library on then forget about it [07:57] these are very nice, very cute little computers [07:57] hehe [07:57] with TPLink 108Mbps wifi cards [07:58] g41 chipset works fine with 1080p playback - just don't try 3d on them - they can't keep up :) [07:59] picked them up for R600 each at that 2nd hand shop we shall not name [07:59] haha [07:59] * Padroni can't rememberr the name now, hence the secrecy [07:59] they still have a few if anyone is interested. [08:00] Nah - moving all my htpc's to Rasp PI 2's [08:00] I so want a rasp pi [08:00] but uhmm [08:00] I technically own 7 computers [08:00] slipping another one past the wife is gonna be hard... [08:00] lol [08:00] sell the mac [08:01] can't [08:01] company property [08:01] and they want it back [08:01] eish [08:01] sel the wife problem solved [08:01] which reminds me [08:02] I need to get that thing formatted before they pick it up [08:02] well [08:02] after her last performance review, that is pretty much on the table... [08:02] >.< [08:02] just don't quote me on that please... [08:03] jacques_: - you own a beagleboard? [08:03] I want one of those more [08:03] there's this thing I want to build, that topples over cell towers [08:03] you know - just to test it [08:03] dont touch my tower please [08:04] Padroni: Have been wanting to try one [08:04] i have a list of toys of questionable morals that I want to still build [08:05] the fake GSM base station for one - again with the beagleboard but the hardware you need for that is a couple of grand's worth [08:06] I worked on a hardware keylogger last year but kinda lost track [08:06] and now it's just another semi-completed hack tool [08:06] built into a PS/2 to USB adapter [08:06] so you won't suspect it [08:07] anyway [08:07] so many ideas [08:07] so little [08:07] time [08:08] and the inability to finish what I start [08:09] I think allot of us suffer from that [08:09] started automating home with arduino's [08:09] haven't finished that as well [08:10] lol [08:10] Coded it ages ago but still have to finish the wiring [08:11] I start 3-5 new things a week and maybe finish one thing a month. [08:11] lol [08:11] I see this infliction has hit you hard as well... [08:11] lol lo highvoltage [08:11] hey o/ [08:13] every time is see highvoltage I think about the song from electric six - scarred >.< === jacques_ is now known as Jacques_Stry [08:25] wb barrydk [08:26] yo stickyboy [08:27] wb barrydk_ [08:28] wb all the barry's it seems [08:28] highvoltage: have you tried trello? [08:32] hehe [08:34] Padroni: It's one barry , but we struggled to get his chat correct and updates and all and all [08:34] * Padroni assumed as much [08:35] kill the thunderbird thing [08:35] mazal https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Tips_and_Tricks [08:42] Ya he's using konversation also now [08:46] hi magellanic [08:47] heya [09:04] magellanic: Is it you mos that I also owe feedback ? [09:05] inetpro: I have used Trello before, yes [09:05] for? [09:05] Re the external refusing to boot thing [09:06] oh yes [09:06] highvoltage: hmm... which of the two accounts do you use, or do you prefer not to use it any more? [09:06] smaller partition you were going to try [09:06] highvoltage: heya :) [09:06] Inetpro's plan worked perfectly. It boots 100% with the small boot partition [09:07] So it was a size issue [09:07] ah, nice [09:07] glad to hear it works [09:08] * inetpro wants to add highvoltage to our trello board at https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco [09:08] oh and we want to see highvoltage at the meeting tomorrow evening as well [09:08] ne Kilos? [09:09] mazal: you mentioned that on Friday evening, I think :-) [09:10] Not to magellanic inetpro , just wanted to tell him , he also tried to help [09:10] ah [09:10] I don't think he was here Friday night [09:10] Unless he was and I didn't see him :P [09:10] sorry, I should have followed the conversation [09:11] * inetpro responded because of the ping [09:12] hehe ek stem! [09:13] yes inetpro add him then he can see what we are doing [09:13] hi drussell [09:14] I was here but wasn't paying attention :p [09:14] glad it works though [09:14] Kilos: you will have to get him to at least complete one thing a week [09:15] drussell would be nice if you add your info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members#preview [09:15] well inetpro you nag well there so i dont think he will have much of an option [09:17] for some reason, my Evolution mail client considers all incoming mail as spam [09:17] although I appreciate the sentiment [09:17] it's becoming a pain in the ass [09:17] highvoltage can you fill in your info here too please https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members [09:18] Padroni you can mark them as not spam then next mail from there will be seen [09:18] right click not spam [09:19] or was that not junk [09:23] Kilos: Must all of us fill our info in there ? [09:23] there is no must mazal but its a way of seeing who is active [09:24] Ok , what is lp member since ? [09:24] launchpad [09:24] I just click 'edit' and add my stuff ne ? [09:25] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+members?active_batch=75 [09:25] ya [09:28] hi nlsthzn [09:28] hey uncle Kilos [09:30] Kilos: I tried to add mine , but I can't get the columns right [09:30] lol it drives me mad as well [09:31] Morning [09:32] hi Squirm [09:32] Kilos: I don't know what to put where as the columns is not 1 single row [09:32] || nickname || [09:32] and so on [09:34] just always end with || otherwise it crashes [09:34] or gives errors anyway [09:35] Ha , looks like I got it [09:36] nice [09:36] I see my lp expires tjis year. Will I get an email to renew or something ? [09:38] yes [09:38] if they know your new address [09:39] but if old addy still works you will get it there [09:41] nlsthzn you can update yours too please [09:42] update something again? [09:42] lol https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members [09:43] things change [09:44] mazal julle slimmes kan sommer nuvolari se ekstra || ook insit vir my [09:44] ek breek goed te maklik [09:46] * nlsthzn will wait until the layout is stable and do this once more >.> [09:47] Kilos: I see I need to build a wiki for my username. [09:47] Where is a manual how to do that :P [09:48] I clicked on edit and got just a big empty block [09:51] lol [09:52] i think look here [09:52] https://wiki.ubuntu.com [09:52] oh [09:52] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mazal i think it is [09:53] go see someone else wiki page and do the same [09:53] i forget how to get going [09:54] I'm sukkeling my alie af with the formatting [09:54] hmm... [09:55] so where is the pro when you need him [09:55] someone made one last night [09:55] captine i think [09:56] yay !! I got the heading right lol [09:56] That's a start [09:56] good [09:57] * Padroni is not a fan of the wiki thing. Code is almost as bad as MS Word generated HTML [09:57] oh there are manual goodies [09:58] grrrrrrrrrr , now I can't get entries under each other [09:58] Maaz google how to build a wiki page [09:58] Kilos: "How to Create Your Own Wiki | PCMag.com" http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2399582,00.asp :: "Wikipedia:Your first article - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Your_first_article :: "How to Start a Wiki (with Pictures) - wikiHow" http://www.wikihow.com/Start-a-Wiki :: "Create Wiki Pages - Blackboard Help" [09:58] https://help.blackboard.com/en-us/Learn/9.1_2014_04/Instructor/080_Collaboration/020_Wikis/020_Creat… [10:02] hey I got a link in :) [10:02] lol well done [10:03] but it doesn't work :( [10:03] lol [10:03] it might once you have saved it [10:04] And I put it exactly like the example [10:04] maybe thats not a good link [10:05] Ok got that working , the help is crap [10:05] Tried something and it worked [10:08] Kilos: Can you look at this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mazal#preview [10:08] but you are learning something new so thats good [10:08] You see the info under personal: [10:08] sec [10:09] How do I get that to be nicely under each other without spaces between [10:09] one hand full of eisbein sarmy [10:09] If I type it directly under each other then it throws it in 1 long line [10:09] i see them all under each other [10:11] Mine shows one empty line between each one [10:11] oh ya but so what [10:11] did you do the headings thing too? [10:12] Yep I did headings [10:12] read up what all the characters do [10:12] They look ok [10:13] This is cool , I like this , just needs to learn the formatting [10:13] i see it fine, why are the empty lines bothering you [10:13] I like things neat [10:14] write down a how t for wiki pages [10:14] how to [10:14] other peeps will ask for help still then you got the know how you can paste for them [10:19] to remove the empty lines you click on the start of the line and tap the delete key [10:19] its done [10:19] reload [10:20] No now it's a mess [10:20] Everything in 1 ungly line [10:20] oh my [10:20] That's what I said [10:20] I already tried that and that is what happens [10:21] i cant remember what i did [10:21] So it seems you can't add lines below each other , there must be a empty line between each one it seems [10:22] Lemme continue with next part , will worry about that later [10:24] mazal: rtfs [10:26] lol [10:26] inetpro: I do , but can't find it [10:26] read between the lines haha [10:27] ok Kilos , hows it looking now. Not too bad for the first 10 minutes ever in wiki lol [10:27] Will populate it a bit more as I find time [10:28] good [10:28] This is fun :) [10:28] Feels like I am creating something [10:28] you are [10:29] at the bottom of the screen it says, " For more help, see HelpOnEditing orHelpOnMoinWikiSyntax." [10:42] inetpro you have to design a very strong bait [10:42] so we can lure peeps like wwk here [10:44] wwk? [10:44] william walter [10:52] Kilos , inetpro : have a look see. suggestions are welcome please. [10:52] inetpro: used it for various project management things. I prefer not to use it unless I have to or unless others are already using it for something I need/want to contribute to. I think my username is highvoltage911 on there [10:52] Still very basic for now [10:52] inetpro: ah but for ubuntu-za you can add me [10:53] highvoltage: cool [10:55] mazal: I'll check later [10:55] i stuck with fedora mazal [10:56] and i work in an IT enviroment [10:57] looks good to me [11:06] Kilos: which wiki are you busy working on? [11:07] wiki.ubuntu.com magellanic [11:07] Kilos: I want to learn more about this , this is nice [11:07] wiki.ubuntu.com/mazal [11:08] are you updating it? [11:08] he has just created it [11:09] magellanic: Is my own one I just started on to start learning it [11:09] im still playing here on and off and waiting for you to add your info [11:10] /wiki.ubuntu.comZATeam/Members [11:10] Kilos: Barry added his info btw [11:10] cool [11:11] nou net by lp aansluit, help hom [11:16] nea only one thing at a time not twice together [11:17] lol [11:17] die pro het jou nog nie beet gekry nie [11:17] om te wat? [11:17] more than one thing at a time [11:18] he makes me do three, but then he has to go fix all three afterwards [11:18] Ek beweeg maar stadig net so dat niemand dink ek is dod nie [11:18] just pulled the sites code - this nicola generator looks interesting [11:19] very Jacques_Stry [11:19] works well [11:19] all of a sudden my to-do list jumped to 15 entries :P [11:19] lol [11:21] he would actually make a good teacher [11:21] tells you one step at a time, then kicks your butt till you go running down the road [11:22] my pro is a character of note [11:36] Yes found it !!! It's line breaks :) [11:37] Now the first section is nice and neat below each other [11:37] good [11:38] make note of everything you do hey [11:38] maybe magellanic will need help when he gets to add his info [11:39] * Kilos ducks [11:39] Is going well , all things concidered :) [11:40] maybe hey Kilos :D [11:40] lol :D [11:52] Kilos: I can't find that memberlist link on main page , where is it located ? The one where everyone fill their info in [11:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members#preview [11:53] maybe without the #preview [11:54] we are still buildint it and will then add the link on our site [11:54] building [11:54] oh ok [12:08] May one only put ubuntu related stuff on that wiki server ? [12:11] mazal: what do you plan to put? [12:12] For example , on the hobbies section , may I put a faq on minetest , or whatever else ? [12:13] Or lets say I want to create a manual , but something not ubuntu , let's saw a manual on rugby , or whatever. Is that allowed ? [12:14] I'm trying to find a rules & guidelines section , but couldn't find any link yet [12:14] a personal manual on rugby or something for everyone? [12:14] if it's for everyone then go put it on wikipedia [12:15] K , that's what I wanted to know , don't want to be breaking any rules [12:15] for minetest I'm sure we can put it on the ubuntu wiki, it runs on ubuntu after all [12:16] I'm defnitely gonna put time into learning the wiki format better [12:16] maybe create a Fun section as part of our team [12:16] something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Fun [12:17] hmm , nice idea that [12:17] But I must learn properly first :) [12:18] mazal: remember we also have a local minetest channel at #minetest-za [12:18] Ah cool , didn't know that thanx [12:18] not much happening there now but maybe you can get it flowing again [12:20] I made a little "scratch pad" on my own wiki that I will be using to learn. Enjoying this wiki thing [12:21] i'm not used too working with bzr - can anyone help me on pulling a branch from launchpad so I can commit a fix [12:22] inetpro ^^ [12:23] Jacques_Stry: only if you make me some coffee [12:23] Jacques_Stry did you read the tutorial [12:24] on our site [12:24] Maaz coffee on [12:24] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [12:24] Maaz coffee for all [12:24] Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already [12:24] Maaz: coffee please [12:24] inetpro: Alrighty [12:24] hi kulelu88 [12:24] I read the tutorial and everything worked fine with the example - but when I try too branch the one i get an error [12:25] Hello [12:25] from ubuntu-za you make a new branch [12:25] name it what you like [12:25] ubuntu-za worked fine [12:26] but i'm trying to do a bug fix for practice - on xbubble :) [12:26] oh [12:26] but get - bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: [12:27] error message [12:27] you better make pro coffe then [12:27] coffee [12:27] haha - putting the kettle on [12:27] hey I can create sub pages , nice !!!! [12:27] Jacques_Stry: are you in the trunk folder? [12:28] Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro! [12:28] Maaz ty [12:28] You are welcome Kilos [12:28] Maaz: dankie [12:28] Groot plesier inetpro my vriend [12:28] inetpro: In my projects folder i tried doing - bzr branch lp:xbubble [12:31] but i get - bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/xbubble/". [12:31] Jacques_Stry: this one https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/xbubble/vivid ? [12:31] does anyone use dukto here? [12:31] I enabled my firewall and now cant seem to use it [12:32] Jacques_Stry: I'm guessing it should be 'bzr branch lp:ubuntu/xbubble' [12:32] inetpro: I'm an idiot - was using wrong branch name [12:33] haha... no problemo [12:33] inetpro: Thanks :) [12:33] Jacques_Stry: no you are not an idiot :) [12:33] Jacques_Stry: I like superfly's method [12:34] want to get myself accustomed to bzr launchpad system - Would like to give back to the community a bit [12:35] so trying the "One Hundred Papercuts" bugs first [12:35] eeewww bazaar [12:35] Jacques_Stry: bzr init-repo RepositoryFolder && cd RepositoryFolder && bzr co lp:RepositoryName trunk [12:36] inetpro: mmmm.... i see - much quicker [12:36] then you can make your own branches in the RepositoryFolder and keep a clean trunk separate [12:37] what does "co" do? [12:38] checkout [12:38] i see [12:39] not sure what the exact difference is between checkout and branch [12:39] arent they completely different things? [12:40] should maybe read http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/CheckoutTutorial [12:40] laster [12:40] later as well [12:48] inetpro: Did I add that card correctly ? Still learning trello [12:49] mazal: perfect! [12:49] nice to see people trying things [12:51] Cheers for eers peeps [12:52] ya [12:52] Once I learned wiki then I can help with wiki pages [12:52] Bye for now everyone , enjoy the rest of the afternoon [12:53] God bless [12:53] cheers mazal [13:17] Maaz announce Meeting here at 20.30 tomorrow night all of you. All excuse me's are to be in handwriting , in triplicate and hand deliverd to inetpro in pretoria [13:17] Announcement from Kilos! Meeting here at 20.30 tomorrow night all of you. All excuse me's are to be in handwriting , in triplicate and hand deliverd to inetpro in pretoria [13:20] :) [13:21] I might not make it as I sleep when I can (which isn't much) [13:21] aw nlsthzn you the meeting reporter [13:21] sleep now so long [13:21] ? [13:21] hehe [13:21] um [13:22] that thing where you record things [13:22] monthly reports or something [13:23] the bot does that.. I just need to remember to go manual edit the wiki etc later [13:23] but we understand so you can read logs next day and make one [13:23] * nlsthzn always forgts [13:23] *forggets [13:23] fuuuu!! [13:23] lol [13:23] looks like you need sleep now [13:24] I actually do [13:27] hows the baby and mom doing nlsthzn ? [13:28] oh mom doing very well thanks... and baby good except he has been slightly niggly today, not slept much but we will keep on checking hopefully it means a good night tonight [13:29] thanks for asking :) [13:29] boy or girl? [13:29] boy kulelu88 [13:30] easier to raise a boy I think [13:32] will see :) [13:33] 21 years to go ;) [13:33] lol [13:33] yup [13:34] the last few are the scary ones [13:34] it starts early these days. from like 14 they give grief [13:36] oh my eldest is right there currently >.< [13:36] boy also? [13:36] nope girl [13:37] im sure you've raised her right so she'll be good :) [13:37] thanks kulelu88 ... all I can say we try our best [13:38] just dont let her read twilight, watch spud or know anything about tweenage romance :D [13:38] I guess I could lock her in her room for the next 5 years [13:39] lol [13:40] that may come back to haunt you :D [13:41] darn, cant tunnel into work :( [13:41] :p [13:57] Kilos: uh, serious!? [13:57] what? [13:58] "All excuse me's are to be in handwriting , in triplicate and hand deliverd to inetpro in pretoria" [13:58] ai! [13:58] lol well you so far it will be easier to attend the meeting [14:01] :0 [14:03] hi charl [14:03] hi Kilos [14:03] how are you doing [14:03] ok ty and you? [14:03] Maaz: coffee on [14:03] * Maaz washes some mugs [14:03] i'm good [14:07] Coffee's ready for charl! [14:07] Maaz: thanks [14:07] charl: Sure [14:19] * Padroni yawns... [14:19] Time for a beer, eh? [14:19] !beer [14:19] !beer! [14:20] Maaz... do something with your life. Get me a beer... [14:20] Padroni: What? [14:20] no beer allowed in ubuntuza [14:20] * Padroni hides his home brew setup [14:20] Well if you guys want me to be able to function, I need beer after 16H00 [14:20] just saying. [14:20] it's written like that in my contract at work as well. [14:20] Maaz: beer please [14:20] Hidden in the back of the fridge inetpro [14:21] Maaz beer please [14:21] Hidden in the back of the fridge Kilos [14:21] ah... [14:21] * inetpro hands Padroni a beer [14:21] * Padroni learned a new trick [14:21] thank you inetpro [14:21] how are you btw? [14:21] Maaz: juice please [14:21] kulelu88: What? [14:21] Padroni: now please get on with it again :-) [14:21] cyber beer is better for the stomach [14:21] oom Kilos cant drink beer nomore [14:22] Kilos: ai! [14:22] do any of you use ubuntus firewall? [14:22] you need to teach your bot properly [14:22] I wish people will set up their damn Joomla site's properly [14:22] my mail queues are spammed by signup confirmations [14:22] ya gufw [14:23] which means pretty soon those same clients will bitch about bandwidth usuage [14:23] and guess who will have to go and truncate 400k spambot accounts out of the db...? [14:23] Jors Troelie. [14:23] lol [14:23] eeuuw you still use PHP in 2015 [14:24] dont moan, it pays for your beer [14:24] as apposed to what, kulelu88? [14:24] almost all of the internet is running PHP [14:24] ASPX? ASP? [14:24] wat [14:25] as opposed to Python <3 [14:25] my friend [14:25] for that [14:25] or even Ruby [14:25] web developers will have to get real qualifications... [14:25] which we both know won't happen [14:25] true [14:25] hahahaha [14:26] web developers will need to start to learn how to program [14:26] I just realized that I pretty much pissed off a whole industry with that one sentence... [14:26] which will not happen [14:26] but who am I to judge, my work relies on crappy PHP [14:26] I refuse to learn it. [14:26] I can read it [14:26] I can find malicious code in it [14:26] I know enough to get into trouble with it. [14:26] but I will make no discernable effort learning it. [14:27] good, good [14:27] I am not a fan of PHP [14:27] oh Kilos [14:27] that script that stopped working? [14:27] are you a pretorian? Padroni [14:27] replaced it with a 1 line replacement script [14:27] no [14:28] Padroni sounds like an italian [14:28] * Padroni is Praetorian, however. [14:28] he's an afrikaaner [14:28] sounds good Padroni [14:28] it's Italian for "The Masters" or something similar [14:28] methinks [14:29] Ek is afrikaans [14:29] my internet handle is wel Italiaans [14:29] mi piace [14:29] also not by design [14:29] good, good [14:29] My gaming nick used to be "Heidi se hond" [14:30] ek dink ons het nie meisies op ubuntu za [14:30] before that, "Frankie se siekte" [14:30] we have [14:30] so the next one was "Corporal Padroni" [14:30] which got shortened to just Padroni [14:30] been 'padroni' eversince [14:30] bellísimo [14:31] only found out the meaning years later [14:31] i will have a dopio espresso while you are at it [14:31] I shall have some pasta [14:31] *doppio [14:33] it is very good, i like [14:33] (said in thick italian accent) [14:34] lol [14:34] I do not speak a word of Italian [14:34] or any other language for that matter [14:35] bah, i speak like 5 [14:35] actually more because there are also some dialects [14:36] speaking anything frenchish and germanish doesn't count charl. it is the same language in most instances [14:36] kulelu88: nono, i don't speak french [14:36] i do however speak some degree of finnish and japanese [14:36] in addition to various germanic languages [14:37] are you german? charl [14:37] nope [14:38] ooki [14:39] * Padroni listens to Rammstein. A lot. [14:39] very good, have you listened to buck dich ? [14:39] no [14:39] listening to it now though [14:39] especially the opening stanza [14:40] :D [14:40] * nlsthzn listens to Rammstein and reads the lyrics :p [14:41] good idea nlsthzn [14:41] I am currently stuck on Made in Germany [14:41] read the lyrics :D [14:41] :) [14:42] * kulelu88 observes metal-lovers [14:43] \m/ [14:44] *&#^@!)$# Revslider again [14:44] I am beginning to hate that plugin [14:45] I deal with it everyday [14:46] what industry you work in? [14:46] kulelu88: btw you underestimate the issue of dialects ... people from different dialects don't even understand each other [14:46] kulelu88: but most people learn the "standard" language in school to communicate to "outsiders" [14:46] security [14:47] I gathered. [14:47] be more specific? [14:47] you can pm if you preffer [14:47] charl: you're a programmer (I think), so you have higher order thinking and picking up dialects would be easy for you [14:47] *prefer [14:48] kulelu88: true :D [14:49] I'm hiding pseudonymously Padroni [14:49] wb charl [14:49] ah [14:49] Think I know who you are then. [14:49] ok Kilos, who hasn't joined us on Trello yet? [14:49] I remember asking you in pvt about your job, and not getting any response. [14:50] we have work to do man [14:50] lol [14:50] i dont remember us speaking in private [14:50] lemme go see who is there [14:50] unless you're phishing :O [14:50] charl, Padroni, kulelu88: https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco [14:51] whos Bradley? [14:51] captine [14:53] you got my face by too much stuff inetpro [14:54] Kilos: you can remove your face if you want [14:54] hey inetpro :) [14:54] and thanks [14:54] na ill just lurk there [14:55] oom are you afrikaaner by descent? your surname sounds english [14:55] my grandfather was born on durban beach [14:55] so been here 3 generations now [14:56] Kilos: yikes! Only three? [14:56] en my ma was duits en france ek dink [14:56] * inetpro has been here 6 generations already [14:56] that would make oom 4th gen if grandad was born on the beach [14:57] we only decided to come here when we saw the early peeps were messing up [14:57] * Kilos ducks [14:57] ai! [14:57] oh [14:57] no man ian is 4th [14:58] but your great granparents also came to SA [14:58] Kilos: he's right [14:58] kulelu88 , charl and Padroni from moms side it was many generations before my dads side [14:58] ai! [14:59] let me finish before distracting me man [14:59] somebody needs to write a book about the differences between afrikaaners and british folks in SA [14:59] kulelu88 , charl and Padroni would you fill in your info for us [14:59] waiting for the confirmation email [15:00] which seems to not want to come [15:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members [15:00] it's going via the NSA [15:00] those that arent members yet join now [15:00] I am using outlook.com [15:00] so it's my own fault [15:01] we gotta have the most informative and fastest site of all [15:01] yes outlook.com is nsa-approved for all your secure and private communication needs [15:01] lol [15:02] :D [15:02] NSA hacking at hardware level now so doesn't matter what you use they are making backups for you [15:02] good, good [15:02] and sim cards [15:02] they should just plant chips in us [15:03] * charl grabs his tin foil hat [15:03] thats the plan [15:04] nlsthzn: life must be great with your filtered internet in the UAE [15:04] there's another good rammstein song for you [15:04] filled in as requested. [15:04] we're all living in amerika [15:04] @ Kilos [15:04] Padroni ? [15:04] aha ty sir [15:04] you asked to fill in my 'stuff' on trello [15:04] I did [15:05] no that was pro's request [15:05] ah ok [15:05] inetpro: bio filled in as requested. [15:05] mine was here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members [15:05] yeah - wiki [15:05] i don't wiki that much [15:05] this wiki page will be linked to our site [15:05] so I may never get on the wiki [15:05] never too old to learn Padroni [15:06] only me [15:06] lol [15:06] kulelu88, it can become tedious but there isn't anything you can't get around at the end of the day [15:06] i doubt you can be taught anything [15:06] ai! i get taught everything over and over [15:07] forget as fast as i learn [15:07] all the fly's and pro's gray hairs are from me [15:07] I thought china was exporting its firewall for these other countries [15:08] FYI [15:08] if anyone of you have a Lenovo laptop [15:08] better check if it has the Superfish spyware on [15:08] Lenovo got caught out pre-installing that [15:10] Right [15:10] i have two lenovo laptops but the first thing i did was reformat and install debuntu [15:10] I am off [15:10] later folks [15:10] ciao Padroni :) [15:10] Padroni: bio where? [15:10] later Padroni [15:10] ciao a tutti [15:10] on trello? [15:10] hmm... [15:10] I am not gving out any personal info, inetpro [15:12] Padroni he needs your user name on trello to add you in our trello [15:13] hi Private_User [15:14] hi Kilos [15:15] Kilos: found him and added [15:15] cool [15:15] now you can dish out work to him also [15:15] now we can give him work hey? [15:15] hehe [15:15] rofl [15:16] he can look for spyware in our stuff [15:16] snap [15:16] ya im just slower [15:16] great minds think alike [15:16] fools never differ [15:22] kinda hot here today [15:24] today is cooler oom [15:25] sjoe [15:25] here in ptown? === kulelu88 is now known as kulelu88_away [15:25] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/119099-did-the-nsa-hack-your-hard-drive.html [15:26] charl formatting alone wont help [15:26] you would need to get clean firmware [15:26] and most likely zero the drive as well [15:40] the firmware is the issue yes === jacques is now known as Jacques_Stry [15:41] http://www.pcworld.com/article/2886278/how-to-remove-the-dangerous-superfish-adware-presintalled-on-lenovo-pcs.html [15:42] this does not talk about firmware however [15:45] wb Jacques_Stry [15:46] eish that site plays a video [15:47] without a stop buttom [15:47] button too [15:47] Kilos: training in progress https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mazal/pad :) [15:48] lol [15:48] But now my eyes needs a break [15:49] ah thats good, keep it up when you have time [15:49] Check out the "gaming volgorde" doc. That is my gaming to-do list [15:50] Was the first file I could find lol [15:50] no time for gaming [15:50] you all need to work so i can rest [15:50] I go eat [15:50] My eyes don't want to see anymore [15:51] ya gets tiring === kulelu88_away is now known as kulelu88 [16:32] mazal whos your ISP? [16:42] kulelu88: Webafrica [16:42] and at work is Afrihost [16:43] looks like webafrica runs on IS [16:43] yep [16:49] evening all [16:52] hi captine === deegee is now known as drussell [16:55] wb drussell [17:02] Kilos: thx! [17:30] Maaz seen superfly [17:30] Kilos: superfly was last seen 2 days, 4 hours, 36 minutes and 29 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-02-21 04:53:48 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2015-02-06 23:33:36 PST [17:30] ai! [17:30] hope they are ok [17:41] ya just very busy [18:06] wg magellanic [18:06] wg? [18:06] oh typo man [18:06] read between the lines [18:06] wb [18:06] ah, thanks [18:06] encrypted wb hey [18:06] hehe [18:06] :D [18:07] im sure we are still waiting for you on trello [18:07] looking at the topic earlier, does the sailfish stuff affect linux users? [18:07] eish [18:07] lol [18:07] * magellanic hides [18:08] im sure when they put stuff in drive firmware it affects everyone [18:08] ah, that sucks [18:08] they can watch me all they like [18:09] you can get clean firmware from the manufacturers im sure [18:09] just need someone to read it and check [18:11] firmware is the new spyware :/ [18:11] lol [18:14] time to start learning to code firmware [18:14] yip. I think the fight for privacy is one that will never end... imagine what is in things that we dont even know about. [18:15] pen and paper... [18:15] no more hdd [18:15] lol [18:15] no man learn firmware programming then sort your firmware, zero the drive then install and you are clear [18:17] the pen would need to be inspected for spy micro cams [18:17] lol [18:23] * superfly tries to prop his eyes open with match sticks [18:25] superfly, my eyes are VERY heavy too [18:25] this waiting for the daughter to arrive is stressful... :) [18:25] go sleep fly [18:26] question to all... looking at some business options. should I setup my own mail server and if so, how does this work in terms of staying off blacklists etc, or do I pay someone for mail sending per domain? [18:28] nlsthzn go sleep [18:42] already did, and I am back up to go sleep again uncle Kilos zzzzzzzzz [18:42] lol [18:56] Night everyone , sleep well [19:06] night all, sleep tight. Get some rest my fly [19:16] ? [19:18] superfly: gaan slaap [19:18] nou-nou [19:22] captine: meaning hosted mail for your business? [19:23] I'd look at google apps, let them host mail for your business too [19:23] captine: how many people? [19:23] magellanic, yip. or for others [19:24] thinking of putting a "business in a box" thing together, to help people get their businesses off the ground [19:24] i use google apps for my domain [19:25] cool [19:29] captine: planning on supporting it for them to? curious. [19:31] maybe. [19:31] just getting ideas down [19:31] i am not very technical.. so looking at a business case [19:32] etc [19:32] less on the email and hosting... more on the financial applications and business management (am a CA by trade) [19:33] I've seen a few SME type setups go sour because whomever put it in, didn't support it further [19:33] yip. [19:33] IMO, the value in offering it to SME, is in supporting it further [19:33] i can believe it [19:34] captine: something such as openerp/odoo ? [19:34] our company uses mimecast as our gateway [19:34] I find openerp/odoo a little heavy and cumbersome [19:35] I come from an Oracle EBS implementation background so many of it's concepts make sense to me... just find installing it a pain. [19:35] looking at something more simple. [19:35] I know a company doing install/support of openerp/odoo in Cpt, there is a good/big market for it [19:35] yeah, I worked with it a bit [19:35] i recall a CT company that was offering a rebranded openerp cloud service [19:36] oh, hmm, erpweb by any chance? [19:36] still evaluating. [19:37] I was doing devops for them for a while, I didn't like openerp [19:37] maybe it improved, with its new name, odoo :p [19:38] ledgersmb was an option... front accounting was the easiest on installing and I am more familiar with mysql... not so good with postgres [19:39] think a package that is part of the ubuntu repo's with good record is ideal.. easier for upgrades etc [19:39] yeah, supporting these things become tricky [19:39] esp if it is after normal working hours. [19:39] and not fulltime.... [19:40] yep [19:41] the worst is people get a bad taste of open source software as some kid on the side tries to promise them things but doesnt support it (as you said). :) [19:43] yes [19:48] anyhow, been thinking of this for over a year now.. finally putting thoughts on paper. [19:48] gotto sleep now. [19:48] night all [19:50] good evening [19:52] evening [19:55] hi magellanic [19:57] hi, and bye ;) night folks [19:57] magellanic: you seem new [19:59] here for about a week or so [20:00] and before that, a few years ago probably. [20:00] later. [20:25] good night everyone [20:26] night [21:09] good night