[00:01] also didn't optipng them before sending to you [00:01] * knome shrugs [00:02] i'm fine with that for now [00:02] got to prepare the 2.0 theme version soonish then [00:02] bug fixes or more goodies? [00:03] i guess mostly bug fixes [00:04] thanks for the screenshots anyway, they will be useful whatever we decide to do [00:05] np [00:59] knome: ooh, nice [01:02] pleia2, isn't it! [01:03] bluesabre, any idea why i'm not seeing parole controls? :P [01:03] your warrant expired [01:03] :( [01:03] i'll revert the website [01:03] :( [01:03] :( [01:04] so the controls are just missing? [01:04] yeah, and the mouse cursor disappears when i move it on the parole window area [01:05] i'm on utopic fwiw [01:05] i can pause the dvd on spacebar [01:05] oh, that's odd [01:06] have a dialog open or anything? [01:06] what dialog? parole dialog? [01:06] nope, only that window [01:07] and i also can't see the timebar [01:07] eg. i don't know how much of the chapter i've watched [01:07] when you move the mouse, the bar and cursor should appear [01:07] nope [01:07] :\ [01:07] the mouse just moves under the window [01:07] try changing the sink [01:08] Preferences > Display > Video Output [01:08] yeah, that seems to work [01:08] let's see if it works with the dvd too [01:08] since i remember the controls were visible before the actual chapter earlier as well [01:09] mhm, works now [01:09] but the video chops a bit [01:09] which sink? [01:09] x, no xv [01:10] it's possible that the problem is in the dvd, this is the first time i watch it [01:10] try the other X (X11/XV) [01:10] same there [01:10] :( [01:10] no xv is 0 acceleration [01:10] :( [01:10] happens at least when i unfocus the window [01:11] i mean, it shows a blank/black frame [01:11] can confirm it happens on focus/unfocus [01:11] let me try the other sink.. [01:12] doesn't happen with the clutter sink, but no cursor or controls [01:12] thats no fun [01:12] nope [01:13] vlc ;) [01:13] huhu! [01:13] let's see if the frame skippnig happens on other events too [01:14] or without me doing anything [02:34] Hello guys, I was wondering if the current behavior of the applications after disconnecting the dual monitor setup is right. I have two monitors, one is my notebook, and another is a 21'' screen which I use to extend the window. If I place any application in the second monitor (in the right) and then disconnect the VGA cable, the applications will be in a space which is unreachable. [02:35] Won't be nice if applications which were in the second monitor moved to a screen coordinate which is "mapped" (is this even right to say? I've said because the resolutions aren't the same) and visible to the user? [02:38] ranu, did the behavior change in 15.04? [02:38] I can't say right now. I didn't downloaded the .iso, but, nice idea. I'll check it out! [02:39] I remember reading about something related: tiled windows were not moved to the remaining screen after disconnecting the 2nd one [02:42] Interesting, did you read that on the bug tracker? [02:42] there is also a known issue with disconnecting the external screen. the xfce settings daemon may crash, and therefore break some functionality [02:42] let me try to find that report or comment [02:42] k [02:44] bug 1333203 [02:44] bug 1333203 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Tiled windows do not restore when 2nd display unplugged" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1333203 [02:45] not sure if bug 1379702 is related to your issue [02:45] bug 1379702 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "xfsettingsd crashes after disconnecting external screen" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379702 [02:46] Going to have a look at it, thank you brainvvash :D [02:46] :) [02:47] Since I'm using 14.04, and the bug 1379702 never happened here, this may be just on utopic 14.10. [02:47] bug 1379702 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "xfsettingsd crashes after disconnecting external screen" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379702 [02:48] right [02:50] so yeah, please test 15.04 and file a new bug report [04:55] knome: utopic https://www.dropbox.com/s/io317wm5mfsfag4/utopic.tar.gz?dl=0 === Guest33721 is now known as benonsoftware === benonsoftware is now known as Guest48867 === Guest48867 is now known as benonsoftware [09:33] hello :-) [11:30] knome: precise https://www.dropbox.com/s/gxrbv8okwwgrx2x/precise.tar.gz?dl=0 [11:46] bluesabre, you've been busy ;) [11:50] elfy, https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1404275/+merge/245201 [11:50] hey knome [11:51] hullo slickymasterWork [12:16] slickymasterWork: ty [12:17] np elfy [12:24] knome: just felt like a fun side project [12:25] hehe [12:28] you're saying knome feels like a fun side project, I don't know if knome should take that as a compliment or an insult ;) [12:30] I think that a visit to knome would be a fun side project for sure :) [12:31] lol [12:32] :P [12:32] * knome shrugs and continues with other things [13:04] elfy, ping === brainvvash_ is now known as brainvvash [16:10] knome: pong [16:14] mhhh. can anybody point me an english example output of "sudo lshw -C network" ? [16:15] struggling with translating that part [16:15] there is nothing which would be CLAIMED or something in english in my german terminal output [16:31] dkessel: http://pastebin.com/36YKESAB [16:31] does that help? [16:34] elfy: perfect, thanks [16:34] welcome :) [16:38] bluesabre: will we get the fix to xfce bug 11579 ? [16:38] xfce bug 11579 in core "can no longer expand directories in the tree pane while remaining in the current directory" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11579 [17:51] elfy: Version: 1.6.5, that's what we have in Xubuntu. [17:51] ochosi: My merge was merged. [17:53] Unit193: yes I know - but are we going to get that issue fix before release? [17:57] Several bug fixes since release. [17:58] knome: would like to publish next "Xubuntu at" article today, want to have a look first? http://xubuntu.org/?p=2965 [18:00] anyone have trouble moving or adding panels on the daily? have someone on G+ who is struggling with it: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+xubuntu/posts/JMnibSDV5wM [18:01] pleia2, i glanced at that yesterday, if you don't want to add photos, please go ahea [18:01] +d [18:02] knome: yeah, no photos, thanks [18:03] pleia2, i'm planning to be in touch with that guy using xubuntu on his classes on the local uni where i talked too for another of those articles [18:04] http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-at-mexican-collection-agencies/ [18:04] knome: great [18:04] I've run out [18:04] :) [18:04] we should do a social media campaign to gather more [18:04] yeah [18:05] tweeted that ^ [18:06] knome: doh, double-tweet [18:06] "Do you use Xubuntu in an organization and want to be featured on the Xubuntu website? Contact @pleia2 for more information!" [18:06] * pleia2 deletes hers [18:06] "deploymens" [18:07] men who deploy? [18:07] yeah, that too [18:07] so what about that^ ? [18:07] it's gone now [18:07] no, the tweet proposal :P [18:07] that's fine [18:07] oki, will tweet [18:09] posted article on fb and G+ [18:09] great [18:09] i'm working on first updates for the new website theme [18:10] but what about setting up the first desktop of the week desktop now? [18:11] I have a metric ton of work to do this week, so I can't do much more until next week [18:11] ok [18:11] should we schedule some time for $stuff [18:11] sure [18:11] or can you, tbe? [18:12] my brain is full [18:12] hah [18:12] well when it isn't, and you're looking at your calendar, email me ideal times on next week and i'll get back to you then [18:12] i mean, with the scheduling :P [18:12] I'll see what I can do [18:13] sure, no rush or pressure [18:13] i'll get to things on my own eventually as well [18:13] Unit193: yup, saw it, good news! :) [18:13] just want to get some of the technical side fixed [18:15] Unit193: cool - that's what I wanted to hear :p [18:16] ochosi: you still want https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/1301056 as won't fix? [18:16] Launchpad bug 1301056 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Session name has "Session"" [Wishlist,Opinion] [18:17] yeah [18:18] on both packages ochosi? [18:18] elfy: Heh, well so can't quite just grab a few commits and run with them. I suppose you could argue this is a regression. [18:18] yeah [18:18] gotta run [18:18] ok, I'll do it [18:18] bbl [18:18] ty [18:18] Unit193: so - is that no? [18:18] done ochosi [18:20] bluesabre: ping me with what you need regarding the standardization of the screenshot size for http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/ [18:50] elfy: Oh sorry, forgot to say. I don't know, not Sean, but prepped one anyway with 3/4 fixes. [18:52] k - ty [18:53] (Doesn't count for much, but has to count for a little..) [18:54] an answer counts for a lot in my opinion :) [18:55] I guess if it's not going to make it - should do LP bug for it so people have something to hang a hat on [18:59] Ah great, once you do that give me the bug number so I can add it. [19:03] Unit193: bug 1424774 [19:03] bug 1424774 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Unable to expand directories in the tree pane and remain in the current directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1424774 [19:03] added the xfce one to it [19:04] Great. [19:06] bluesabre: In xubuntu-staging, and https://sigma.unit193.net/source/thunar_1.6.5-0ubuntu2.dsc [19:07] this will be fixed anyway once xfce 4.12 is released and packaged, or? [19:07] Unit193: add it to vivid bug blueprint? [19:08] brainvvash: Yes, but that's a lot of FFes, better get the bugfix in ASAP, since they're free. [19:08] elfy: Err, right, that's somewhere.. [19:08] I'll do it then :D [19:09] bluesabre: Have you talked with the release team about Xfce 4.12? Might be good to file the FFe now? [19:10] FFe for bug fix releases? [19:14] brainvvash: 4.11.x => 4.12 is a major version bump for after FF. [19:20] (This being the changelog http://paste.openstack.org/show/QVSubdGhCpBagr7Tp6jp) [19:30] elfy: It's in staging if you would like to confirm the fixes. [19:37] Unit193: appears to have turned the trick :) [19:39] Did you/can you confirm the others while you're at it? [19:40] others? [19:41] http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11571 - http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11557 You of course don't have to at all. [19:41] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11571 in general "Hide template file extensions in context menu" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] [19:41] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11557 in general "When renaming a file to go over the limit on properties dialog, it will not able to be canceled." [Critical,Resolved: fixed] [19:45] Unit193: I'll check them both [19:46] Unit193: don't have any templates other than Empty File - that looks as I'd expect it to [19:47] that's just a cosmetic change anyway [19:50] So many bugs reported against thunar. :3 [19:51] Unit193: ack fix for renaming issue [19:52] Great. ;D [19:53] brainvvash: Figured may as well grab it too, since it fixes an Xfce bug (albeit, yours) and has little regression potential. [19:53] mmm [19:54] nothing wrong with that [19:54] Unit193: so had file name that was looong - then tried making it too long - got error on file rename, close and it all did as expected [19:55] retried - cos I am like that and http://i.imgur.com/hwOLfF7.png [20:03] elfy!! hi :-) [20:03] hi Akusari [20:05] i'm trying my first sru and nomation on a bug for trusty. lets see what happen [20:06] but no xubuntu related bug. So, i'm silent now ;-) [20:07] Good luck. [20:08] unit193: thx :-) ahhh, i get you..:-) Let me ask you if you could build a thunar 1.65 for utopic as well :-) [20:08] xfce-412 ppa [20:09] Eh... [20:10] well, if its not possible it doesn't matter :-) [20:11] It is, and since asked sure, but easier to just track one series, and utopic is going away oh so quickly now. [20:12] I've done a few uploads for utopic in there, but mainly targetting trusty. [20:13] yeahhh, i understand [20:13] Akusari: Give it a minute to build (and about 5 to publish) then you're good to go. [20:13] np -) [20:13] :-) [20:28] http://git.xfce.org/xfce/tumbler/commit/?id=69122ab380c7f4fc5cf69d5b1d597f588ea39bc4 I'd say that's important. [20:29] probably - there's lots of green and red and black [20:29] Haha. :D [20:29] Moves the thumbnail cache so other things than Xfce will see it. [20:30] :) [20:48] unit193: thx, found your new thunar 1.65 :-) [20:52] Sure. [21:24] wow, super fast responses from the IS [21:24] Oh, what'd you ask for? [21:24] to pull the new revisions to production [21:25] happened in 25 mins [21:25] \o/ [21:25] * elfy gets knome to talk to them about his issues ... [21:25] hah. [21:26] i just looked at the open queue [21:26] and saw many open tickets for me too [21:26] :p [21:26] https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=23534 [21:26] SAAAAD [21:26] Created: Sun Dec 08 20:16:02 2013 [21:26] ha [21:27] you should see the forum vb3 to vb4 changeover one :p [21:27] i did [21:27] :P [21:27] unfortunately... [21:27] there were 2 changes of forum council in the middle of that :p [21:27] yep. [21:28] beta 1 WILL be tomorrow [21:28] Akusari: ^^ [21:29] I'll send some basic info to the list in the morning - likely I'll not have the correct url - so someone from the QA team can post the real link :D [21:29] knome: are we supposed to not have a navigation footer on the main page? [21:30] pleia2, yes [21:30] meh [21:30] pleia2, see the new menu [21:30] not searchable [21:30] well bah [21:30] you and your requirements :) [21:30] ctrl+f to search for "contact" for example [21:30] it's important [21:30] digging through menus is unpleasant [21:31] i can reintroduce it later [21:31] thanks [21:32] http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/ [21:41] pleia2, question if you have 5mins? :) [21:42] don't have, running out to dr appt [21:42] heh, ok [21:42] have fun... if appropriate [21:56] night peeps [22:08] nighty elfy :) [22:20] Unit193, this branch was updated https://github.com/the-cavalry/light-locker/tree/lid-closed [22:21] can you please package it again for the -staging ppa? [22:21] Bloody... [22:43] bluesabre: Recommends: desktop-base, gnome-themes-standard, gnome-icon-theme-symbolic, policykit-1 -gtk-greeter no longer needs the gnome ones, because of ada right? [22:44] Unit193: good question [22:44] ok, one hopefully final push request sent to IS [22:46] bluesabre: Did you check scrollback? [22:46] Unit193: yes, working on it :) [22:46] slickymaster: 1440x900 [22:46] bluesabre, slickymaster: we'd better document that :) [22:51] bluesabre, slickymaster [22:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes/Maintenance#Screenshot_guidelines [22:51] feel free to expand the very barebone guideline :P [22:52] looks exquisite [22:52] :D [22:52] authored by bluesabre [22:56] bluesabre, fancy the new screenshots page? http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/ [22:56] knome: that looks good [22:56] hey guys [22:56] * bluesabre is happy to have screenshots all the same size [22:57] hey slickymaster [22:58] yeah, the page does look pretty [22:58] You know, one of these days, I'm going to sign something 'Unit 193 ' and bluesabre won't notice and sponsor anyway... :3 [22:58] heh [22:58] I always review packages before uploading :) [22:58] bluesabre, what exactly do you want me to do, re the screenshots? [22:58] I know, but how easy is that to miss? :P [22:59] slickymaster: nothing you'll need to do at the moment for xubuntu.org, I collected a bunch for precise, trusty, utopic last night [22:59] unless knome wants MOAR [22:59] * slickymaster bets he will [22:59] * bluesabre agrees [23:02] https://sigma.unit193.net/source/light-locker_1.6.0-0ubuntu2.dsc [23:02] light-locker (1.6.0-0ubuntu2) vivid; urgency=medium [23:02] . [23:02] * d/p/lid-closed.patch: Refresh patch from upstream. [23:02] Handle UPower lid event with systemd too. [23:02] knome, what exactly you mean by default configuration? [23:02] bluesabre: Should we really keep shipping this? Or wait for cavalier to actually finish it and merge? [23:03] slickymaster, same as xfce docs guidelines, do not change wallpaper/panel config [23:03] the one just out of installation [23:03] ok [23:03] slickymaster, if you have time tonight, we can discuss the website more or less briefly :) [23:04] bbiab -> [23:04] knome, ftr http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds-xfdesktop [23:04] I assume your referring to this one ^^ [23:05] I'll have time in about an hour, an hour and a half [23:13] slickymaster, yes, something like that, except for xubuntu it's both harder and easier; [23:13] the default config changes every cycle, but it's also easy to redo with a clean install [23:15] bluesabre: 1. Re: Thunar, a-ok there? Want to pickup another patch? Drop one? Not upload the fix? 2. FFe/Talk to release team about Xfce 4.12? 3. Whatever is going on with light-locker. :P [23:17] Unit193: 1. Thunar looks fine, will upload in a bit [23:18] Unit193: 2. Going to work on the FFe this evening (thanks for the reminder) [23:18] Unit193: 3. I suppose there is something to figure out there, need to dig in [23:18] Unit193: 4. [23:19] I'd recommend talking to release team, because all those releases basically should be bugfixes anyway, no? (But yeah, likely still require FFes) [23:19] Unit193: oh wait, there was no 4 [23:19] yeah [23:19] bluesabre: Hah, well yeah. That's all I needed answers for! I have the patch refreshed and in /source/ as linked to. [23:19] I should likely upload to staging. [23:19] I'll do the FFe as a single thing first, then ping release team folks [23:19] since I usually miss their schedules [23:50] website updates done for now :) [23:50] knome: thank you :) [23:50] no problem [23:50] ...any more [23:50] * knome grins [23:50] :) [23:50] well now that you mention it [23:51] also made it so that we can have a different menu @footer [23:51] bluesabre, yes master? [23:51] j/k [23:51] :P [23:51] knome: back now if you still need 5 min ;) [23:51] pleia2, nah, ^ that was the answer [23:51] well [23:51] i can use 5 mins for something else [23:52] haha [23:52] http://xubuntu.org/help/ [23:52] we should link to the docs from the first list [23:52] per release [23:52] to make the documentation links more prominent [23:52] wfm [23:52] needs a small text review [23:52] http://xubuntu.org/products/ [23:52] no t-shirts mentioned [23:53] and maybe we could do a shinier section on unixstickers there [23:53] so I think it's time to retire the StartUbuntu poster [23:53] a la stuff @ http://xubuntu.org/donations/ [23:53] yes, [23:53] i also need to fix the branding stuff [23:53] * knome sighs [23:54] I think we keep stickers in one section and t-shirts in another, even though they're all from unixstickers [23:54] we have so much great stuff but it's been hidden so log [23:54] we could still add a unixstickers logo there :) [23:54] yeah [23:54] http://xubuntu.org/news/category/faq/ [23:54] needs updating!! [23:54] indeed :) [23:55] http://xubuntu.org/about/ <- badly linked, i think it's only in the menu [23:55] and footer [23:55] well menu is main menu and footer menu [23:56] it's still too hidden [23:56] do we want to consolidate and put it all on the front page? [23:56] probably not [23:56] k [23:56] i like the new page [23:56] it's recently updated too [23:56] alright [23:57] we have the ability to add more widget areas on the front pge [23:57] *page [23:57] as you can see on the staging site now [23:57] so if we want to highlight something on the website or elsewhere, we can easily do so [23:57] I see [23:58] we have one more widget area to use, which is not visible now [23:59] Unit193: see -release, may be a bit before I can upload thunar [23:59] Saw already, thanks.