[02:09] <daftykins> http://www.ebuyer.com/662872-acer-aspire-xc-115-desktop-pc-dt-svtek-003
[02:09]  * daftykins chuckles
[02:23] <diddledan> is freedos a viable system these days then?
[02:31] <zmoylan-1i> it has kept getting better last i read up on it
[02:35] <daftykins> i just imagine there's some kind of rule about no OS on a fully assembled system 0o
[02:35] <daftykins> don't really know why they bother at all
[02:36] <zmoylan-pi> because dell needs an os to update firmware :-)
[02:36] <zmoylan-pi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeDOS#Commercial_uses
[02:37] <zmoylan-pi> and when the nsa tries to infect your freedos system the additions to the config.sys and autoexec.bat stand out :-D
[03:40] <mapps> strange eh
[08:49] <knightwise> morning
[08:55] <SuperMatt> good morning
[08:55] <SuperMatt> glad the journald bug in vivid is fixed
[08:55] <SuperMatt> I can actually boot my machine first time now
[08:57] <knightwise> SuperMatt: what happened  ?
[09:03] <diplo> Morning guys, does anyone here use any opensource projects type software ?
[09:03] <diplo> And if so recommend anything
[09:03] <popey> wat?
[09:03] <popey> project management stuff?
[09:04] <diplo> Sorry wasn't expecting that quick a reply
[09:04] <diplo> :)
[09:05] <diplo> So I basically write web software currently but I never know what other team members are working on, we have a case management software but it doesn't do projects
[09:05] <diplo> I want one of the administration girls to keep on top of the staff knowing what we are doing and where we are
[09:05] <diplo> So like percentage complete type thing
[09:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:08] <diplo> Morning davmor2 :)
[09:08] <popey> diplo: trello
[09:08] <diplo> Just looking now thanks
[09:08] <diplo> davmor2, did you ever master Django ? I remember talking about it a while ago, just about to start playing again myself :)
[09:10] <davmor2> diplo: no, I understood the pythony bits however the html/css part that you need to build on top to be able to do anything kinda threw me and I had no time to look into that :)
[09:10] <diplo> Looks like the sort of thing popey but not sure my company would use an external thing, like free and internal :/
[09:11] <popey> shame, trello is awesome
[09:11] <diplo> davmor2, bootstrap and html5boilerplate make those things easier :)
[09:11] <popey> we use it
[09:11] <diplo> It looks it! I'd use it
[09:11] <diplo> I may just use it with the girl and me :)
[09:11] <diplo> And not tell them
[09:18] <davmor2> trello ftw \o/
[09:49] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Single Tasking Day! :-D
[09:52] <knightwise> JamesTait: sorry , i didn't catch that . too many windows open
[09:53] <JamesTait> Since the weather has decided it's going to be one of *those* days today, I've decided not to try and keep up with it, and just dry the washing inside instead.
[09:53] <JamesTait> That means I can focus on my work. Single tasking ftw!
[10:07] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:44]  * davmor2 todays single task is breaking anything JamesTait has written.....Task completed man what a short day that was
[11:01] <JamesTait> Like I need your help to break anything I've written, davmor2. ;)
[11:12] <davmor2> JamesTait: :D
[11:16] <davmor2> JamesTait: you're hello world scripts suck, 1: it says hello world and exits, surely as you exit you say goodbye. 2: My name isn't world, nor am I a world, so that is completely inappropriate. 3: So Goodbye person would be closer :D
[11:27] <davmor2> JamesTait: to be fair when I looked at your code and it started running I knew there might be an issue. I mean literally running I took ages for me to catch it, I needed to get in shape anyway :)
[11:27] <JamesTait> It has a life of its own.
[12:00] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:01] <bashrc> tzag
[12:03] <davmor2> cz<tab>: how do
[12:03] <czajkowski> good thanks
[12:03] <czajkowski> working here with popey and Dominic
[12:03] <czajkowski> had yummy fresh scrambled eggs
[12:05] <davmor2> czajkowski: breaking up Easter Eggs and swapping bits with other peoples is not the same as scrambled you know that right ;)
[12:11] <czajkowski> davmor2: well you don't say
[12:11] <czajkowski> fancy that :p
[12:12] <davmor2> czajkowski: :D
[12:15] <awilkins> Egg muffins! Poached egg, toasted muffin, slice of prosciutto, blob of salsa.
[12:16] <czajkowski> go outside lift hens, pick up eggs and scramble
[12:16] <czajkowski> yummy
[16:10] <diddledan> bit of geekiness for ya'll: * esmo (~esther@2001:67c:1560:a003:9103:7fab:aa7a:7dc4) has joined
[16:10] <diddledan> * ahayzen__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
[16:11] <diddledan> err
[16:11] <diddledan> silly
[16:11] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Az7Rez3Rk
[16:11] <diddledan> better
[16:11] <ahayzen__> o/
[16:11] <diddledan> n0rty hexchat filling my clipboard when I accidentally select random text
[16:11] <shauno> oh good.  I don't get anywhere near enough geekiness around here :p
[16:12] <diddledan> lol
[16:13] <zmoylan-pi> so i was looking at old pdas on amazon today... i miss proper pdas... :-)
[16:13] <shauno> I have a bucket full I could probably send you :p
[16:13] <shauno> (okay, not that bad, but I do have 3 or 4 tungstens in a shoebox)
[16:14] <shauno> (protip: you don't miss them.  you're wearing rose-tinted glasses)
[16:14] <zmoylan-pi> i have a tungsten e still here but it was never 100%
[16:14] <diddledan> needs more electricity?
[16:14] <awilkins> I'd love the design ethos of PalmOS on modern hardware
[16:14] <diddledan> I usually keep my devices at 100%
[16:14] <zmoylan-pi> i mean the psions, the palm iiix, the visor neo
[16:14] <awilkins> PalmIII
[16:15] <zmoylan-pi> the tungsten e was shipped with wonky speaker and broken todo button. shipped it back and it was repaired but was still iffy afterwards
[16:15] <diddledan> toto?
[16:15] <diddledan> isn't he a dog?
[16:15] <zmoylan-pi> todo, button to the right of up down rocker
[16:17] <awilkins> Palm buttons ... erm, calendar, todo list, phone book and something else?
[16:17] <zmoylan-pi> memopad
[16:18] <awilkins> Thought so
[16:18] <zmoylan-pi> i used memopad most
[16:35] <diddledan> teehee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6vLp07ZePY#t=430
[16:35] <diddledan> poor david
[16:59] <mapps> damn its so sunny here
[16:59] <mapps> migh get a tan
[16:59] <mapps> heh
[21:23] <daftykins> aaah, very interesting to read that the next intel CPUs, codenamed skylake... ditch VGA at long last \o/
[21:24] <diddledan> daftykins, ?
[21:24] <diddledan> as in no more intel graphics at all?
[21:24] <daftykins> nah they're just ditching VGA ports
[21:24] <daftykins> so it'll be all digital here-on out
[21:27] <shauno> completely unrelated, yet shares 25% of those words ..
[21:27] <shauno> is there a sensible way to get vga into a machine these days?
[21:27] <daftykins> into :O
[21:28] <shauno> yes
[21:28] <daftykins> so, for capture?
[21:28] <shauno> that sounds like a much more sensible word, yes :)
[21:28] <daftykins> i've gotten very confused over what if any support for video in there is on modern cards
[21:28] <daftykins> so no ideas here i'm afraid
[21:29] <shauno> I want an imac, but if it's going to replace my existing monitor, I want to be able to display my amiga on it
[21:30] <shauno> which I think should be possible, but people just look at me funny
[21:31] <grebulus> popey ping
[21:32] <daftykins> shauno: super fancy 5K modern type? i'd bet they're riddled with digital ports only
[21:32] <grebulus> Just wondering where the compatibilty list for phones was on the wiki, that showed how far along progress was on phones' features ?
[21:32] <grebulus> .... well it used to be there .
[21:33] <shauno> I dunno about 5k.  the regular ones take display-port in at least, the 5k doesn't
[21:34] <grebulus> Anyone, The Ubuntu Touch Compatability List is located ...... ?
[21:36] <shauno> there appears to be an #ubuntu-touch  they may know better
[21:36] <grebulus> crumbs, shouldn't be this hard.
[21:42] <daftykins> i believe all the touch talk is quiet on freenode, so finding things out won't be easy for you no
[21:42] <daftykins> shauno: hmm so some kinda active box to take in the VGA and spit it out into DP might be the plan
[21:43] <shauno> well, I took a list on the logs host to see if it existed, and judging by the size of their logs, the touch channel is several times busier than this one
[21:43] <daftykins> :D
[21:44] <daftykins> must be all the #ubuntu people that are forwarded there telling porkies then
[21:44] <daftykins> or maybe it's just the odd hours we keep
[21:45] <diddledan> odd hours? how very dare you!
[21:45] <diddledan> morning, btw
[21:45] <daftykins> \o/
[21:45] <shauno> or simply expectations.  I can imagine going from the main channel where the room flies by a mile a minute, to one where you have to ask and wait
[21:45] <diddledan> shauno, we have to wait, now?
[21:45]  * diddledan waits
[21:46]  * diddledan waits
[21:46]  * diddledan waits
[21:46] <diddledan> :-p
[21:47] <daftykins> did i tease you all with the birthday cake i had on Saturday?
[21:47] <diddledan> apparently reddit thinks "that lesbian jewish leftists were taking over control of the site"
[21:47] <daftykins> so many layers! https://www.dropbox.com/s/6wfui9s5ufehwh8/IMG_20150221_213750.jpg?dl=0
[21:47] <diddledan> daftykins, :-o
[21:47] <diddledan> wow
[21:47] <diddledan> I want
[21:47] <diddledan> no, I need
[21:48] <diddledan> lots of icing too by the looks
[21:48] <grebulus_> How do I add fire to a bug ?
[21:48] <diddledan> grebulus_, matches?
[21:48] <diddledan> grebulus_, or a well-focused lens?
[21:48] <grebulus_> maturity , please . I'm not in the mood.
[21:49] <daftykins> bad move in here, then
[21:49] <daftykins> a Touch bug?
[21:49] <diddledan> specially when I'm awake
[21:49] <diddledan> :-p
[21:49] <grebulus_> How do I add fire to a bug ?
[21:49] <diddledan> I don't even know what adding "fire" means
[21:49] <daftykins> grebulus_: you need to rewrite your question when you repeat it, since it wasn't clear the first time
[21:49] <diddledan> I'm assuming it means setting alight a critter
[21:49] <daftykins> otherwise the definition of insanity applies
[21:49] <grebulus_> Alright, 'heat' , then.
[21:50] <diddledan> that doesn't help
[21:50] <shauno> if you're on launchpad, click on the 'flame' icon and it'll explain what it means and how its calculated
[21:50] <diddledan> oooooohhhhhh
[21:50] <diddledan> *penny.. drops*
[21:50] <grebulus_> I've done that, but how do I increase the 'heats' number ?
[21:50] <diddledan> click the flame and it'll tell you what needs to happen to increase
[21:51] <grebulus_> k , hangon ..
[21:51] <diddledan> e.g. new subscribers
[21:52] <shauno> yeah, it seems quite difficult to "turn up the heat" yourself.  affecting more people seems to be the most obvious, and you're only one person
[21:52] <diddledan> I'm not. I'm three people!
[21:53] <diddledan> I'm the holy trinity
[21:53] <diddledan> (does that count as blasphemy?)
[21:53] <shauno> cheese, tomato and pepperoni?
[21:53] <diddledan> bingo
[21:53] <daftykins> :D
[21:53] <diddledan> ham and pineapple is a good combo, too
[21:53] <grebulus_> still dont get it .. just says how it is calculating the scores - nothing 'bout how to increase the 'heat'.
[21:54] <diddledan> grebulus_, increasing the heat requires satisfying those conditions
[21:54] <diddledan> jee, the deductive logic is waning here
[21:54] <shauno> eh, don't be mean, it's late
[21:55] <diddledan> sorry, I forget where I am at times
[21:55] <shauno> <3 curtains
[21:55] <daftykins> what did curtains do this evening?
[21:55] <shauno> they keep amazingstoke outside, allowing you to forget where you are
[21:55] <grebulus_> Ahh , done it .. apparently I'm an 'affected user' ... AFX , used to play that flight sim :)
[21:56]  * grebulus_ is almost smug.
[21:56] <daftykins> shauno: :D
[21:56] <shauno> that's the idea.  subscribing to it, and marking that you're also affected, will bump it.  but only a smidge.  it's meant to guage how 'hot' it is overall, not just to you
[21:56] <daftykins> so your bug is playing a flight sim on a phone?
[21:56] <diddledan> I'm failing to see the connection there
[21:57] <diddledan> affected user.. used to play a random flight sim.. eh?
[21:57] <grebulus_> diddledan: Ay-eff-ex .. sounds like affected .
[21:58] <daftykins> grebulus_: you're not a rock dweller, are you?
[21:58] <diddledan> oic
[21:58] <daftykins> (Guern)
[21:58] <grebulus_> rock dweller ?
[21:58] <daftykins> Donkey, crapaud, channel islander...
[21:58] <shauno> see, that's funny because where I'm from, gurning is turning your face inside out as a competitive sport :)
[21:58] <daftykins> :D
[21:58] <grebulus_> Why are peple so concerned about who is talking | Opposed to what is actually being said ?
[21:59] <diddledan> shauno, yeah that's where I was going
[21:59] <daftykins> grebulus_: maybe you should dial back the strange paranoia. i am from Guernsey and so would find it interesting if another were around.
[21:59] <grebulus_> it's completely irrelevant, and you'll never benefit from my IP address , so don't bother.
[21:59] <daftykins> *sigh*
[21:59] <diddledan> daftykins, but paranoia is so random
[21:59] <daftykins> what the hell is wrong with you man? you think we're out to get you?
[22:00] <daftykins> jesus, some people
[22:00] <diddledan> daftykins, 87.81.170.10
[22:00] <diddledan> (if my memory serves)
[22:00] <diddledan> wow I got it right first time
[22:01] <grebulus_> All I came on here was to ask for a table of the Touch compatability list progress .. sigh.
[22:01] <diddledan> yeah, we really aren't out to get you
[22:01] <daftykins> yep then i tried to make conversation, i know not to bother trying in future :)
[22:02] <diddledan> hint, I'm a hermit
[22:02] <grebulus_> I enjoy a meta discussion, though.
[22:02] <diddledan> <-- looks like gollum
[22:02] <diddledan> I haven't seen sunlight in weeks
[22:03] <diddledan> so my chances of hunting someone down, successfully, are slim-to-none
[22:03] <shauno> okay.  gollum with a ginger beard.  I need eyewash now
[22:03] <diddledan> :-p
[22:04] <grebulus_> for example, For those who regularly dial in humblebundle: What success have you had with all those games on Ubuntu as a percentage ?
[22:04] <daftykins> diddledan: depends if you mean for food, sport or breeding i guess
[22:04] <diddledan> I've run out of storage spaces :-()
[22:04] <shauno> reminds me, have you ever tried a flightsim on a laptop?  I'm trying to figure out how to concrete-fill my joystick :/
[22:05] <daftykins> extra sticky blu-tack
[22:05] <diddledan> no more nails
[22:05] <diddledan> sticks anything to anything
[22:05] <daftykins> permanently.
[22:06] <grebulus_> ...
[22:06] <shauno> yeah.  I don't actually want to superglue my stick to my laptop
[22:06] <daftykins> shame, i was looking forward to pics
[22:07] <shauno> oh
[22:07] <shauno> http://cl.ly/image/3H45252W2D2o3w1H2y0D
[22:07] <diddledan> err
[22:07] <daftykins> but to answer the request from the one too paranoid to share their whereabouts: 1) don't run desktop ubuntu 2) only once sprung for a humble bundle 3) wouldn't try to play under Linux
[22:08] <grebulus_> k, fair well put points, there.
[22:08] <daftykins> shauno: wow is that a wild shauno snap? i like the look of the thing that seems like an optical media trebuchet on the right 8D
[22:09] <diddledan> daftykins, how dare you suggest we not run ubuntu on desktop!
[22:09] <daftykins> i feel you could launch ubuntu DVDs at people with that
[22:09] <shauno> lol
[22:09] <grebulus_> must be a drone hideout.
[22:09] <shauno> on the right is a throttle thingie
[22:09] <daftykins> :D
[22:09] <daftykins> aww i'm disappointed now
[22:10] <diddledan> optical media trbuchet sounds awesome!
[22:10] <shauno> but my problem is, the stick itself moves too easily.  which is a bit eek when you balance your precious on top
[22:10] <diddledan> trebuchet*
[22:10] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I... would love to see people just throwing ubuntu dvd's at people
[22:10] <grebulus_> HI ChloeWolfieGirl !
[22:10] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Hey grebulus
[22:10] <diddledan> shauno, don't be silly, if you balance me on top I'd crush your steering thingy
[22:10] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Hey grebulus_
[22:10] <grebulus_> .. got a few flying round, me does.
[22:11] <diddledan> wait, I'm not your precious anymore?
[22:11] <shauno> you never were.  we just tell your mom that to keep conversation interesting
[22:11]  * diddledan pouts
[22:11] <grebulus_> just needs an oculus rift.
[22:12] <intrbiz> not sure what health and safety would have to say about just throwing dvds around, that could cause an injury
[22:12] <grebulus_> Aren't samsung or sony bringing out a £800 version of that this year ?
[22:12] <diddledan> intrbiz, what about pre-sharpening the edges?
[22:13] <daftykins> both samsung *and* sony have competing products
[22:13] <diddledan> there's an oculus samsung that you put a galaxy note into
[22:13] <shauno> isn't the rift owned by fb now?  that's a difficult choice.  which is the least evil?
[22:13] <diddledan> oculus note?
[22:13] <intrbiz> diddledan: becareful someone in the hse might collapse if you say things like that
[22:13] <grebulus_> those things are the only reason Blu-ray will sell more blank discs 'cos it takes ages to download content.
[22:14] <daftykins> i dunno i did 6GB in 30 mins the other night, the times they are a-changin'
[22:14] <diddledan> methinks bluray is pretty nearly dead these days
[22:14] <intrbiz> you can make a spectrometer using the difraction grating extracted by peeling a dvd in half
[22:14] <shauno> oh boy.  my boss was asking me what ISP I use, beause he gets absolutely fleeced
[22:15] <shauno> it turns out that he lives so far outta town that his only option is "mobile broadband"
[22:15] <daftykins> lolz
[22:15] <daftykins> i'd rather move than put up with that
[22:15] <diddledan> o..m..g..
[22:15] <diddledan> that really is bad
[22:15] <grebulus_> just waiting for google hangouts to get more interesting with them ;-)
[22:15] <shauno> it is.  he pays 2/3rds of what I do, and has a 15GB cap
[22:16] <diddledan> yeah, mobile datacaps are evil
[22:16] <shauno> and I get a "stern letter" from my isp if I go past 2TB/mo
[22:17] <diddledan> my sabnzbd has a record of 1.1TB in the past two weeks
[22:17] <grebulus_> just think: you'll have to have a digital mask of your own face - bizare.
[22:17] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I'm annoyed that I can only have 500 minuets at top from giffgaff, I'm a teenager, like 500 minuets is gonna last 2 days xD
[22:17] <shauno> I wonder if I still have the last one.  they're funny letters.  no threats, no demands, no charges, no caps.  they just remind me that it might be polite to leave some for everyone else
[22:18] <daftykins> you could make it last 2 days by communicating via more appropriate mediums instead \o/
[22:18] <daftykins> such as, smoke signals
[22:18] <shauno> do people still use minutes?  I thought it was all thumbs now
[22:19] <ChloeWolfieGirl> daftykins If smoke signals could work between manchester and london that'd be where I'm at xD
[22:19] <diddledan> aye, internet ftw
[22:19] <daftykins> i guess you could youtube the smoke signals
[22:19] <shauno> hm.  that would be pretty slow.  you could set manchester on fire, and it'd take 8 years for london to notice
[22:19] <diddledan> I don't care about minutes or texts on my mobile because I do everything via interweb
[22:20] <diddledan> shauno, we need a beacon system like when the spanish conquered us
[22:20] <daftykins> still need to pop along and adjust my monthly rate soon
[22:20] <daftykins> before month end ideally
[22:20] <intrbiz> it would be nice to get FTTC hear, but at the rate BT keep delaying the due date, its anyones guess
[22:20] <diddledan> there's a "beacon hill" right near here
[22:20] <shauno> I'm waitin until they'll buy me a new phone.  they keep calling me and trying to put me on a new contract
[22:21] <shauno> sure, I'll move to a new 2-year contract with nothing in return.  that sounds spiffy!
[22:21] <diddledan> that's an excellent idea
[22:22] <diddledan> I wonder why nobody tried it before?
[22:24] <daftykins> he died again ;_;
[22:24] <diddledan> ok, so owners dying, connections being reset by peers. IRC really is a dangerous place
[22:25] <daftykins> sure is
[22:26] <shauno> I suspect I'll just get my next phone directly from apple and avoid the whole locking thing.  messy.
[22:26] <daftykins> apple phones :( you shock me, sir
[22:27] <shauno> I know
[22:27] <shauno> but they have one feature going for them that I haven't found on android yet
[22:27] <daftykins> wallet emptying?
[22:27] <diddledan> shauno, only one button?
[22:27] <shauno> they work.
[22:28] <shauno> I mean, you don't have to invalidate your warranty to get basic functionality.  that kinda jazz
[22:28] <daftykins> hrmm, what like?
[22:29] <shauno> I think a slovak keyboard was the one that was really annoying
[22:29] <daftykins> you require a slovakian keyboard 0o
[22:30] <shauno> quite often, sadly
[22:30] <shauno> but most of this was things I ran into shopping for a phone for someone else
[22:30] <shauno> and realising how much I take for granted, not being given half an OS and sent out into the wilds to find the other half
[22:31] <daftykins> heh
[22:31] <daftykins> i feel like finding the other keyboard would've just been buried in the settings, surely
[22:32] <shauno> you'd think
[22:35] <daftykins> decided to have a glance at Lollipop here on my Nexus 4
[22:35] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3staei9l9jag71x/Screenshot_2015-02-24-22-33-48.png?dl=0
[22:35] <daftykins> nope, close but no cigar...
[22:35] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ufqkmbfepqzghaz/Screenshot_2015-02-24-22-34-15.png?dl=0
[22:35] <daftykins> huzzah!
[22:36] <daftykins> well, maybe - don't really know if that's just display language
[22:36] <shauno> and that's the image that came with the phone?
[22:36] <daftykins> nah, many updates later
[22:38] <shauno> we were finding stuff like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2281254
[22:39] <daftykins> oh nasty
[22:39] <daftykins> i guess it's evil companies, then
[22:39] <daftykins> given mines a Nexus i'm kinda cheating
[22:40] <shauno> hilariously, even if we walked into phone stores in slovakia we were still finding phones that only did english/german/french/spanish
[22:41] <daftykins> ;/
[22:41] <daftykins> i think my Greek friend said that they basically adapted all chat to the english alphabet
[22:42] <shauno> right
[22:42] <shauno> or root your phone, and find humour in the fact that only people who have routed theirs can reply back in the same language
[22:43] <shauno> or, yeah, buy a nexus, which seem to be some of the only ones that ship with the whole OS
[22:44] <intrbiz> looks like the Samsung S4 has the Slovencina keyboard
[22:47] <daftykins> shauno: oh and you technically can't buy over here, because islanders aren't permitted
[22:47]  * daftykins makes a rude gesture toward Google
[22:49] <shauno> yeah, ireland's similar.  they'll sell us the nexus5 but not 6
[22:50] <daftykins> i get - Sorry! Devices on Google Play is not available in your country yet.
[22:50] <daftykins> We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible.
[22:50] <daftykins> Please check back again soon.
[22:50] <daftykins> translation: we refuse to deal with a country that we actually have to give tax back to
[22:50] <shauno> I'm surprised they sell any here
[22:51] <shauno> apparently there's some tax nonsense behind apple not having any physical stores here  lol
[22:51] <daftykins> sounds about right :D
[22:52] <m0nkey_> wait. don't apple assemble i<stuff> in Ireland?
[22:52] <daftykins> i... doubt it?
[22:52]  * daftykins points at China
[22:52] <diddledan> don't apple run their whole european stuff from ireland?
[22:52] <shauno> they do have assembly here, and their em .. emiea? headquarters
[22:53] <m0nkey_> Last time I bought a MBP in the UK, it said "Assembled in Ireland"
[22:53] <m0nkey_> I remember it, because I thought it was odd.
[22:53] <daftykins> oh really 0o
[22:53] <m0nkey_> Maybe it wasn't a MBP, think it was my old G5 iMac
[22:53] <shauno> weird.  I've bought 2 mbp here, and they were both made in china  lol
[22:54] <shauno> but I know they make the new imacs & mac pros here & in the US
[22:54] <intrbiz> quite a few tech companies seem to be in Ireland, mainly for tax reasons
[22:54] <daftykins> G5 hehe, quite some time ago then
[22:54] <shauno> because they don't want china to get their hands on their "stir welding" stuff
[22:54] <m0nkey_> yup.. https://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/ireland.jpg?w=704&h=209
[22:55] <m0nkey_> I'm guess Éire still has a large number of iSheeple?
[22:56] <daftykins> XD
[22:58] <shauno> it's mixed.  their tax junta isn't overly popular
[22:58] <shauno> but the fact they're sticking a new datacenter a few miles down the road seems to have gone down well
[22:59] <shauno> especially since it's already been announced the tax loophole is being phased out.  it's quite nice to see them still investing after that news
[23:02] <diddledan> what exactly is the loophole?
[23:02] <diddledan> is there a wikipage?
[23:02] <shauno> there is!
[23:03] <shauno> google "double dutch irish sandwich"
[23:03] <shauno> :)
[23:04] <daftykins> crikey
[23:04] <shauno> I know.  isn't that just a fantastic collection of words
[23:04] <daftykins> https://goo.gl/maps/Aro7n
[23:05] <daftykins> there's my route planned for the morrow ;)
[23:05] <intrbiz> IRRC the Irish Govt offered local tax breaks for the large tech companies setting up years back
[23:31] <diddledan> ick been chilly
[23:31] <diddledan> that's german, right?
[23:32]  * diddledan wanders off to find a wooly
[23:34] <intrbiz> ich bin kalt
[23:34] <diddledan> .
[23:35] <diddledan> sorry, rogue keypress
[23:36] <intrbiz> however Mir ist kalt would be more correct
[23:39] <diddledan> I like my version :-p
[23:39] <intrbiz> :)
[23:42] <intrbiz> diddledan: I only know that phrase for listening to Rammstein now and then
[23:42] <diddledan> teehee