| claydoh | shadeslayer for prez! https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67502-moz-plasma-team-PPA | 00:42 |
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| ahoneybun | hey valorie | 00:55 |
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| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: sorry for the late responce | 06:29 |
| ovidiu-florin | no I didn't know anyything about that | 06:29 |
| ovidiu-florin | I see it's up now | 06:30 |
| valorie | sorry ahoneybun, I was visiting my dad | 06:33 |
| valorie | took forever tonight for various reasons (non serious) | 06:34 |
| soee | good morning | 07:17 |
| Quintasan | Hi | 07:18 |
| Riddell | sgclark: upload it whenever you think it's ready to be uploaded | 09:10 |
| Riddell | if it works then go for it | 09:10 |
| Riddell | I'm away today, exploring catalunya | 09:17 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: nice | 09:23 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:24 |
| ruben-ikmaak | Hi, i'm running Kubuntu Trusty, and as of today, i get this error when trying to start several programs: KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/(kate/konsole/akregator/more) | 09:27 |
| ruben-ikmaak | KDE ver 4.14.2 | 09:27 |
| ruben-ikmaak | i just did the normal updates as requested by updater | 09:27 |
| ruben-ikmaak | could anyone help me get to get a functioning system again? | 09:28 |
| lordievader | Riddell: Have you seen the above? I rember having this once on Vivid. | 09:31 |
| ruben-ikmaak | google has a lot of entries about probs like this but in 2010, they refer to dbus? I did do an upgrade to the kernel today... | 09:31 |
| lordievader | Is dbus running? | 09:32 |
| ruben-ikmaak | i'm unsure how to check | 09:33 |
| lordievader | ruben-ikmaak: In a terminal: ps aux|grep dbus | 09:33 |
| ruben-ikmaak | there is a dbus deamon running, and a few others mentioning the name | 09:34 |
| ruben-ikmaak | is there any other info i could provide? | 09:37 |
| ruben-ikmaak | if this is due to the recent update, should the channel not be riddled with people asking this question? | 09:39 |
| lordievader | Phaps it happens only in specific cases. | 09:41 |
| ruben-ikmaak | i will try a reboot in a few minutes, would be bad for me to miss this machine today.... | 09:43 |
| valorie | for the record, I did updates to 14.10 today, and no such problems | 09:45 |
| valorie | I've used kate since | 09:45 |
| ruben-ikmaak | ok, thanks. i cant say i did a lot of special program installs on this machine | 09:46 |
| lordievader | This is about 14.04. | 09:46 |
| lordievader | It could be related to the update to 14.04.2 | 09:47 |
| ruben-ikmaak | ok, back in a few! | 09:47 |
| ruben-ikmaak | ok, seems to have solved it. thanks for the help lordievader! | 09:49 |
| ruben-ikmaak | phew! that was bad timing :P | 09:50 |
| lordievader | How? | 09:50 |
| ruben-ikmaak | another reboot did it, dunno why | 09:50 |
| lordievader | Hmm... | 09:51 |
| ruben-ikmaak | but i'm glad | 09:51 |
| ruben-ikmaak | i was already making contingency plans... | 09:51 |
| ruben-ikmaak | hmm, while i'm here there are two more things: i make pretty heavy use of akregator, i follow over 80 sites, and those generate about 2000-2400 posts a day. on more than one install i get the issue that akregator crashes upon shutdown, is this normal? its been like this forever for me... (upon restart i sometimes miss posts since last restart) | 09:54 |
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| stikonas | ScottK: do you know anything about https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344549 | 11:43 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 344549 in general "Cannot start System Manager on Vivid by the K Application Menu" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 11:43 |
| stikonas | can't reproduce it here... | 11:43 |
| sitter | fallout from busted kdesu | 11:44 |
| sitter | should be fixed by frameworks5.8 and plasma 5.2.1 (or maybe .3?) | 11:45 |
| sitter | apparently plasma 5.3 | 11:45 |
| stikonas | ok, strange, it works fine here... | 11:46 |
| stikonas | oh, but I have kdesu, not kdesudo | 11:46 |
| sitter | that is a kdesu problem | 11:46 |
| sitter | fixed in plasma 5.2.1 as it turns out | 11:48 |
| stikonas | oh, ok | 11:50 |
| stikonas | that's why it works here | 11:50 |
| sgclark | morning | 12:14 |
| lordievader | Hey sgclark | 12:15 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: thats ok at least it was non serious | 12:45 |
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| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 14:20 |
| Mirv | FYI qtbase 5.4.0 packaging moved to branch qtbase-opensource-src_540 while without suffix moves to 5.4.1. the same will happen for qtdeclarative, since those two are the ones that tend to get the usual load of after-release patches. | 15:12 |
| Mirv | sitter: ^ did your CI use those branches one way or another? | 15:13 |
| sitter | Mirv: nope | 15:19 |
| sitter | I suppose we will at some point, I'll make sure to tell you though ^^ | 15:19 |
| Mirv | ok, just checking since I remember you asking earlier to push bzr branches when you were setting them up | 15:19 |
| Mirv | there's also the Debian git which mitya57 asked to consider moving to. I'm not doing that right now, though, and there's the ~kubuntu-packagers >> debian pkg-kde | 15:20 |
| sitter | yeah, I had integration set up, but only temporarily since the tooling is not quite ready | 15:20 |
| Mirv | although I think mostly I can work as the gateway anyway | 15:20 |
| * shadeslayer would absolutely love it if people moved to Debian git for Qt :3 | 15:22 | |
| sitter | Mirv: notable disadvantage of using git.debian is that not every core-dev has access there. so I suppose for the most part moving there depends on whether you want to play commit gateway for canonical people who don't have push access | 15:23 |
| Mirv | sitter: yes the coredevs having access is valuable | 16:06 |
| mitya57 | In practice, >90% of our Qt uploads are done by Timo^W pkg-kde members, and for the rest we can keep it in sync manually | 16:12 |
| Mirv | and that's true too | 16:18 |
| ovidiu-florin | My first Kubuntu Sprint is about to get started | 17:11 |
| ovidiu-florin | Anyone can join in https://meet.jit.si/KubuntuWebsiteSprint | 17:17 |
| BluesKaj | heh, FF not allowed :) | 17:22 |
| ovidiu-florin | really? | 17:22 |
| ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj ^ | 17:22 |
| BluesKaj | yup | 17:22 |
| BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin, This application is currently only supported by Chrome, Chromium and Opera | 17:23 |
| ovidiu-florin | I see it now | 17:24 |
| ovidiu-florin | oh...... | 17:24 |
| ovidiu-florin | sorry, it works better than Hangouts | 17:24 |
| ovidiu-florin | and it's open source | 17:24 |
| ovidiu-florin | that's why I chose Jitsi | 17:24 |
| BluesKaj | dunno what it's about anyway :) | 17:25 |
| PaulW2U | Keep up the good work Kubuntu devs- http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=21496 - :) | 17:25 |
| soee | hiho | 17:27 |
| BluesKaj | hi soee | 17:28 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: ping | 17:29 |
| ovidiu-florin | And the Sprint has started | 17:31 |
| ovidiu-florin | Hello world | 17:33 |
| ovidiu-florin | Hello Coby | 17:33 |
| Coby | hi hi | 17:33 |
| ovidiu-florin | So we're planning to review bukai s Wordpress theme | 17:33 |
| BluesKaj | any suggestions how to launch system-settings as root? The method: kdesudo systemsettings in the krunner does nothing | 17:33 |
| soee | hmm, kubuntu started to freeze zompletely | 17:33 |
| ovidiu-florin | and decide whether to use it or not on our new Kubuntu website | 17:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj: do it in Konsole | 17:34 |
| BluesKaj | tried that ovidiu-florin, no reponse | 17:34 |
| BluesKaj | response | 17:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | first order of business: Download the WP theme from the active test site http://test2.kubuntu.co.uk/wordpress/ | 17:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | and make a repo with it | 17:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | currently I'll make it on my Github Account | 17:35 |
| BluesKaj | soee, which gpu? , on beta? | 17:37 |
| ovidiu-florin | So the theme is not up at https://github.com/ovidiub13/KubuntuWordpressTheme | 17:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | I made a new repo since Bukai did not answer my email to show me where his repo was | 17:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | I found an account on github under his email address | 17:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | but the repos there had no commit history | 17:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | So I've desided to make a new repo | 17:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | and possibly move it to an official Kubuntu later on | 17:42 |
| soee | after 2 min system freezez sompletely :/ | 17:43 |
| soee | krunner does not work at all | 17:44 |
| BluesKaj | soee, beta? | 17:44 |
| soee | BluesKaj: yes latest upgrades | 17:44 |
| BluesKaj | ok which gpu ? | 17:44 |
| soee | intel, default one | 17:44 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, the freezes stopped once I upgraded the nvidia driver here | 17:45 |
| BluesKaj | I haven't installed beta on the laptop yet, which uses the intel gpu with i915 driver | 17:48 |
| BluesKaj | but I have other things that need attention right now, so I might try the laptop install later, in about 4hrs or so | 17:50 |
| BluesKaj | ok BBL | 17:50 |
| soee_ | first plasmashell stops to respond completely | 18:04 |
| ovidiu-florin | We're writing a report on the site here: https://notes.kde.org/p/KubuntuWebsiteThemeReport | 18:06 |
| soee | it is impossible to reboot system using ui | 18:12 |
| soee | Someone on Plasma 5 can confirm if krunner does not work > | 18:22 |
| VoltBit | Hello, I am interested in one of the projects KDE proposed for GSoC - porting Ubiquity to Qt. Can someone please point me towards a good first bug or similar little work that I could do in order to gain some experience with this project? | 18:28 |
| PaulW2U | soee: installing/updating beta 1 now. krunner seems to work, any specific tests you'd like me to make? | 18:32 |
| Streamstormer | soee: krunner hangs for me after I start a application with it | 18:33 |
| mparillo | soee: Sometimes on plasma5, the Kickoff menu only shows favorites (i.e. not the Leave tab), but I can always reboot the system using the hamburger (formerly cashew). | 18:37 |
| BluesKaj | krunner works here but doesn't remember the previous entries in the dropdown, which is very annoying, that was a handy feature | 18:37 |
| BluesKaj | ok ,back to work ...later | 18:38 |
| mparillo | soee: I have used krunner on plasma5, but there are so many special tricks, and I do not know any of them. But, for example after I installed kteatime this morning, I used krunner to get it onto my tray. | 18:38 |
| soee | well i have it working now but im not sure exactly what fixed it: | 18:43 |
| Streamstormer | ok krunner does always hang when I start ksysguard .. with other applications it does not hang.. | 18:43 |
| soee | when plasma freezed, i have used seon tty to start new one | 18:43 |
| soee | but i also emptied .cache and var/cache | 18:44 |
| soee | krunner works now after reboot | 18:44 |
| soee | lets see if freezes are gone | 18:44 |
| soee | Streamstormer: yes krunne rfreees when ksysguard is running, after it is closed we hame warnign message | 18:45 |
| soee | KDEInit cant run '/usr/bin/ksysguard' | 18:45 |
| soee | not all 5.2.1 packages are in Vivid yet so lets wait a bit | 18:46 |
| Streamstormer | soee: no ksysguard starts normal | 18:48 |
| Streamstormer | soee: only krunner hangs | 18:48 |
| soee | that whats i said :) | 18:49 |
| Streamstormer | soee: oh sry now I see the warning message :) I always killed krunner before I closed ksysguard | 18:53 |
| Riddell | hola | 18:54 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: que pasa | 18:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | join in | 18:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | https://meet.jit.si/KubuntuWebsiteSprint | 18:55 |
| soee | why nvidia-drivers depends on lightdm and it wants to load whole unity desktop ? | 18:59 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: seems to be only me here? | 19:00 |
| BluesKaj | soee, what did you install first, Ubuintu orKubuntu | 19:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | https://notes.kde.org/p/KubuntuWebsiteThemeReport | 19:02 |
| soee | BluesKaj: it is my Vivid installation, done like 3 weeks ago wrom kubuntu isos | 19:03 |
| soee | check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10412940/ | 19:04 |
| Streamstormer | soee: you mean nvida-prime -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1377321 | 19:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1377321 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "sddm and nvidia-331 problems if nvidia-331/nvidia-prime is already installed." [Undecided,Confirmed] | 19:04 |
| BluesKaj | soee, ok, I chose sddm during the nvidia upgrade | 19:04 |
| soee | BluesKaj: i have sddm set also and im using it atm | 19:04 |
| soee | i just wanted to install nvidia driver, but you see what it tries to do :) | 19:05 |
| BluesKaj | so what's this about lightdm then ? | 19:05 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, I tried to install the nvidia -331 , but the default is obviously the 340 for my 8400GS since that's what apt installed | 19:07 |
| soee | BluesKaj: if i try to install this driver it wants to insall lightdm as a dependency and other unity packages | 19:10 |
| soee | thats the problem, i don't need them, just the driver :) | 19:11 |
| BluesKaj | weird | 19:11 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, I didn't pay much attn, maybe I installed all those unity packages too :p | 19:12 |
| BluesKaj | I haven't rebooted since | 19:12 |
| BluesKaj | let me check, brb | 19:13 |
| Streamstormer | soee: thats a nvidia-prime bug. nvidia-prime does no longer depend on sddm, therefore it wants to install lighdm and that pulls the gnome packages | 19:13 |
| soee | pff | 19:13 |
| Coby | http://getbootstrap.com/ | 19:14 |
| soee | up with bootstrap ? | 19:15 |
| soee | *sup | 19:15 |
| BluesKaj | muon shows both lightdm and sddm are installed here, and the login has no unity options | 19:19 |
| BluesKaj | back to work again.. | 19:30 |
| Quintasan | erm | 19:48 |
| soee | whats wrong ? | 19:48 |
| Quintasan | what on earth is this jitsi thing | 19:49 |
| Quintasan | jesus christ | 19:49 |
| Quintasan | what's wrong with IRC | 19:49 |
| BluesKaj | I see init is still default on on beta 1 | 19:49 |
| soee | BluesKaj: and systemd should be ? | 19:50 |
| BluesKaj | dunno soee :) | 19:50 |
| BluesKaj | nobody consults me :) | 19:50 |
| Coby | how can i help you? | 19:51 |
| Coby | BluesKaj:^ | 19:51 |
| BluesKaj | the devs here think I'm a complainer, so they just ignore me most of the time :) | 19:52 |
| Quintasan | Well, if you think there is a bug then do file a bug report. | 19:52 |
| Quintasan | We really can't remember everything you throw at us ;_; | 19:52 |
| soee | :D | 19:53 |
| BluesKaj | no kidding , I'm just bored atm | 19:53 |
| BluesKaj | kl;' | 19:54 |
| BluesKaj | oops | 19:54 |
| Quintasan | BluesKaj: systemd is going to be the default init when the Foundations team decides to do so. It was supposed to hit 15.04 but I guess we're not ready yet. | 19:54 |
| Quintasan | I would have made the switch if it was up to me but we don't really have the resources to support people using systemd | 19:54 |
| BluesKaj | Quintasan, that's fine, init is still working ok atm | 19:55 |
| Quintasan | Well, it worked for god knows how many years, it should keep working until the underlying boot process changes radically. | 19:55 |
| BluesKaj | I was using systemd in the previous version , and I didn't really notice any difference | 19:55 |
| Quintasan | Well, at least it doesn't seem to be a repeat of PulseAudio | 19:56 |
| Quintasan | You couldn't have possibly used it since the systemd package was crippled. | 19:56 |
| Quintasan | Hmm. | 19:56 |
| Quintasan | You could have, I think pitti made a PPA with it. | 19:56 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, don't get me started on pulse, I don't have the time today :) | 19:56 |
| rww | He did. It worked fine. | 19:56 |
| rww | Also, "upstart" is probably a better term than "init" for what we have before systemd. | 19:57 |
| BluesKaj | Quintasan, well according to ps -p 1 , it was in use | 19:57 |
| Quintasan | ovidiu-florin: Did the meeting end? | 19:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | Quintasan: no | 19:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | you can still join in | 19:57 |
| Quintasan | Strange, I can't hear anything or see anything | 19:58 |
| Quintasan | I sometimes even can't access the goddamn page | 19:58 |
| Quintasan | ovidiu-florin: http://k.abramowicz.org/kubuntu/ please throw that into the fray | 19:58 |
| Quintasan | my flatmate put that together today | 19:58 |
| Quintasan | Maybe it can serve as an inspiration | 19:58 |
| BluesKaj | ok, stuff to do ... I'lljhave more complaints later :) | 20:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | we're currently working on a new theme | 20:01 |
| soee | ;-) | 20:02 |
| Coby | . | 20:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | So, the sprint is over :D | 20:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'll finish writing the report and send it to the mail list | 20:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | Quintasan: ping | 22:36 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: did you test the KF5 5.7 upgrade? | 22:47 |
| shadeslayer | like with Plasma 5 | 22:47 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: sorry been busy with my mail server, I will asap | 22:47 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: hmm the only utopic I have is in a chroot and it did not have plasma5... the few that were installed upgraded fine, but in no way a full test. others will have to test... | 22:53 |
| valorie | folks, please read the kubuntu-devel list | 22:54 |
| valorie | today's updates leave me unable to login to a kde session | 22:54 |
| sgclark | valorie: my email is down... | 22:54 |
| valorie | and I'm not alone | 22:54 |
| valorie | "can't start ksmserver" basically | 22:54 |
| * valorie sent mail via the phone | 22:55 | |
| valorie | while I was trying to get this laptop bootable again, which I did! \o/ | 22:55 |
| sgclark | that sounds terrible.. what version of what... | 22:55 |
| valorie | 14.10, with ppa next | 22:55 |
| valorie | oh, I'll quote my email, silly me | 22:56 |
| sgclark | well I guess that answers shadeslayer question... | 22:56 |
| valorie | "Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation." In a console I checked, and ksmserver is part of kde-workspace-bin, which can't be installed because it needs -data. Trying to install kde-workspace-data will remove things like kubuntu-plasma5-desktop. | 22:56 |
| valorie | quite a few report the same on kubuntuforum, according to clay | 22:56 |
| sgclark | ugh, wonder what in frameworks did that.. | 22:57 |
| Quintasan | ovidiu-florin: pong | 23:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | is your flatmate willing to do some more work on the website? | 23:01 |
| valorie | I was feeling a bit downhearted until I got this puter working, now I'm concerned for all those other folks who don't have a fallback puter | 23:01 |
| sgclark | kde-workspace-bin is qt4.... wth | 23:02 |
| Quintasan | ovidiu-florin: He should be here shortly. | 23:03 |
| Quintasan | ovidiu-florin: He's willing but he has no idea what we actually need so...more information required | 23:03 |
| ovidiu-florin | Quintasan: it's late here | 23:05 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'll give you more information tomorrow | 23:05 |
| Quintasan | ovidiu-florin: There he is | 23:05 |
| ovidiu-florin | please reply to my lates email so I don't forget | 23:05 |
| === abrams is now known as avras | ||
| avras | ok, I hope everything will work fine now | 23:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm off to bed | 23:08 |
| avras | so well, hi, I'm Quinta's flatmate | 23:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'll translate and post my blogpost tomorrow | 23:08 |
| avras | and yeah, I'm willing to do some work on kubuntu's website | 23:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | avras: hello | 23:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | avras: would you mind we continue this conversation via email? and tomorrow? | 23:09 |
| avras | (I've been following the discussion via Quintasan a bit) | 23:09 |
| ovidiu-florin | it's very late here, and I have to get up early in the morgning for a very long day | 23:09 |
| avras | ovidiu-florin, of course :) | 23:09 |
| ovidiu-florin | thank you | 23:09 |
| avras | well, basically same here, but Quinta just urged me to join the channel | 23:10 |
| ovidiu-florin | can you please reply to my email on the Kubuntu-devel list, so I don't foget to give you the dirty details | 23:10 |
| avras | ok, I'll find that :) | 23:10 |
| ovidiu-florin | Good night | 23:10 |
| Quintasan | Night. | 23:10 |
| avras | Good night | 23:10 |
| Quintasan | avras: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel | 23:10 |
| valorie | so folks, is someone working on fixing 14.10 in the next few hours? | 23:12 |
| valorie | tomorrow? | 23:12 |
| Quintasan | valorie: What's the exact error? | 23:12 |
| Quintasan | It's a version conflict I guess | 23:12 |
| sgclark | valorie: I deleted them from next, I don't rightly have a freaking clue why kde-workspace-bit (qt4) would be install on a next install. | 23:13 |
| sgclark | and I do NOT have time today to figure how and what happned there. | 23:13 |
| valorie | ok | 23:13 |
| valorie | Quintasan: I can get to the console on that computer, but not sure how to send text from it | 23:14 |
| sgclark | I was asked to backport kf5 to utopic. so I did and as usual some crazy wierd chaos happens. | 23:14 |
| valorie | how does one copy/paste/send to pastebin from a console? | 23:15 |
| sgclark | kpaste? | 23:15 |
| valorie | I don't know how to select text though | 23:15 |
| ScottK | valorie: Install pastebinit. | 23:16 |
| valorie | perhaps I have pastebinit there | 23:16 |
| valorie | checking | 23:16 |
| ScottK | Then you can $whatevercommandyouweredoing | pastebinit and it should all go to a pastebin. | 23:16 |
| ScottK | Just make sure you aren't going to get anything private first. | 23:16 |
| valorie | I pasted the precise error message above in the login screen, but not sure | 23:17 |
| ScottK | sgclark: Is the crazy weird chaos what you're here for? | 23:17 |
| valorie | what exactly you need | 23:17 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 23:17 |
| ScottK | I only have enough context to answer your "how to I paste from the console" question. | 23:17 |
| sgclark | heh, normally not a prob but my email server is down so a bit stressed | 23:17 |
| sgclark | http://askubuntu.com/questions/186371/how-to-submit-a-file-to-paste-ubuntu-com-without-graphical-interface | 23:18 |
| valorie | so what command output would be useful? | 23:18 |
| valorie | it is installed | 23:18 |
| Quintasan | valorie: sudo apt-get install kde-workspace-bin | 23:18 |
| sgclark | no the upgrade... | 23:18 |
| sgclark | I need the upgrade | 23:19 |
| sgclark | not ^ | 23:19 |
| sgclark | I dont understand why a next plasma5 install would have qt4 kde-workspace-bin... of course it freaking conflicts. sigh | 23:19 |
| valorie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10416945/ | 23:20 |
| valorie | oh, my original upgrade command? | 23:20 |
| valorie | but it's done | 23:21 |
| valorie | doing that anyway | 23:21 |
| valorie | woah, I'd forgotten how annoying the flickering used to be | 23:25 |
| valorie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10416991/ | 23:26 |
| valorie | wah, that's not helpful I don't think | 23:27 |
| sgclark | err no, no kf5 packagees there | 23:28 |
| sgclark | first one needs everything that led to that | 23:28 |
| sgclark | it by itself is not very meaningful :( | 23:29 |
| valorie | so, not sure how to access the history file -- it is somewhere, right? | 23:32 |
| valorie | looking in the kubuntuforum, I don't see the reports clay says are there | 23:33 |
| Quintasan | /var/log/dpkg.log | 23:33 |
| valorie | so to send that to pastebinit, do....? | 23:33 |
| valorie | pastebinit -i /var/log/dpkg.log ? | 23:34 |
| Quintasan | cat /var/log/dpkg.log | pastebinit | 23:34 |
| valorie | thanks, Quintasan | 23:34 |
| valorie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10417103/ | 23:35 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 23:36 |
| Quintasan | Nothing here as well | 23:36 |
| valorie | :( | 23:36 |
| Quintasan | Wait, you're running plasma 5 on 14.10? | 23:37 |
| valorie | yes | 23:37 |
| valorie | have been for a long time | 23:37 |
| valorie | working better and better | 23:37 |
| valorie | maybe it's time to bite the bullet and just upgrade to vivi | 23:38 |
| valorie | d | 23:38 |
| valorie | but that still leaves the other p5 testers unable to login | 23:38 |
| Quintasan | valorie: try doing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 23:38 |
| valorie | to pastebin? | 23:39 |
| valorie | I did | 23:39 |
| Quintasan | no, no need for that | 23:39 |
| valorie | above | 23:39 |
| valorie | ok | 23:39 |
| Quintasan | after that's done try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop | 23:40 |
| valorie | no changes suggested | 23:40 |
| valorie | already the latest version | 23:40 |
| Quintasan | What happens if you try install kde-workspace-bin now? | 23:41 |
| valorie | there have been no changes, it will be as above in the first pastebin | 23:41 |
| valorie | exactly the same | 23:43 |
| Quintasan | apt-cache policy kde-workspace-bin | pastebinit | 23:44 |
| Quintasan | For some reason your install is a mix of kf4 and kf5 | 23:44 |
| === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh | ||
| claydoh | valorie: this is what we are seeing https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67522-Upgrade-to-Plasma-5-2-1&p=367735#post367735 | 23:46 |
| valorie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10417305 | 23:46 |
| claydoh | dunno if frameworkintegration is a symptom or not | 23:47 |
| Quintasan | ... | 23:47 |
| Quintasan | wait | 23:47 |
| Quintasan | this is leaving me confused | 23:48 |
| Quintasan | valorie: apt-cache policy plasma-workspace | pastebinit | 23:48 |
| valorie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10417342/ | 23:50 |
| sgclark | yes I am baffeled @ the mix of kf4 and kf5, that is the problem... | 23:50 |
| valorie | well, 14.10 is current | 23:51 |
| valorie | p5 is "on top" so this was expected, correct? | 23:51 |
| Quintasan | To be frank I have no idea what's the difference between ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next and ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-backports | 23:51 |
| Quintasan | The latter has newer builds | 23:51 |
| valorie | I've not done anything special | 23:51 |
| valorie | should I ppa-purge backports? | 23:52 |
| Quintasan | valorie: I'm not sure if that's not going to make things even worse | 23:52 |
| valorie | ok | 23:52 |
| claydoh | valorie: from what I recall, one needs both next and next-backports | 23:52 |
| valorie | and I've had that for weeks if not months | 23:52 |
| claydoh | unless I was misinfortmed | 23:52 |
| Quintasan | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.10 | 23:53 |
| sgclark | I knew nothing of next-backports... | 23:53 |
| valorie | thanks for clarifying, claydoh | 23:53 |
| Quintasan | Says to add sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next | 23:53 |
| valorie | right, I did that the day I upgraded to 14.10 | 23:53 |
| Quintasan | claydoh and valorie: try ppa-purge backports | 23:53 |
| Quintasan | and just use ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next | 23:53 |
| Quintasan | Maybe that will help | 23:53 |
| sgclark | yeah I put the latest frameworks in next so anything in backports will likely conflict | 23:54 |
| sgclark | tho I deleted them due to these issues. | 23:54 |
| valorie | what's the exact command I need? | 23:54 |
| sgclark | I will need to further test local it seems, | 23:54 |
| * sgclark hunts for a utopic cd | 23:55 | |
| Quintasan | valorie: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge | 23:55 |
| claydoh | quint | 23:55 |
| valorie | ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-backports ? | 23:55 |
| Quintasan | then sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-backports | 23:55 |
| Quintasan | claydoh: Hm? | 23:55 |
| valorie | I've got it | 23:55 |
| claydoh | Quintasan: trying now, but that announce was before there was a next-backports ppa | 23:55 |
| Quintasan | Think about it, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-backports says the last build was two weeks ago | 23:56 |
| Quintasan | wait | 23:56 |
| Quintasan | bloody hell | 23:56 |
| Quintasan | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next?field.series_filter=utopic | 23:56 |
| Quintasan | this one is even older | 23:56 |
| claydoh | Quintasan: I had asked, and was told both were needed | 23:56 |
| Quintasan | @_@ | 23:56 |
| claydoh | do we even know, lol! | 23:57 |
| valorie | it is downgrading now | 23:57 |
| valorie | can't be worse | 23:57 |
| valorie | might be better | 23:57 |
| Quintasan | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa | 23:57 |
| valorie | and if that fails, on to vivid | 23:57 |
| Quintasan | jesus christ this list | 23:57 |
| claydoh | yikes do I accept the solution?? | 23:58 |
| Quintasan | Okay, I have no effing idea. | 23:59 |
| * claydoh thinks not - http://paste.ubuntu.com/10417478/ | 23:59 | |
| Quintasan | claydoh, valorie: Plasma 5.2.1 was released yesterday, there are no builds which are even remotely close to that | 23:59 |
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