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mariogripokey, so lxc is failig, probobly a bad system.img00:00
* mariogrip cannot spell00:00
jholtommariogrip: no, I never did bother00:03
jholtomcan you ship me your patched up hardware/qcom/display somehow?00:03
mariogriphehe, i just copyed the include folder to /out/target/product/bacon/obj/KERNEL_OBJ/include00:04
mariogripjust a lazy method00:04
jholtomoh lol00:05
jholtomthat works, I'll just go and do that then00:05
jholtomwhat kernel source are you using?00:05
mariogriponeplus one own kernel00:08
mariogripbtw it's /out/target/product/bacon/obj/KERNEL_OBJ/usr/include00:08
jholtomoh, ic00:09
geniimmm bacon00:09
jholtomwonder what would happen if I grabbed the sources straight from lg00:09
mariogrip:P00:09
ChloeWolfieGirlThe OnePlus One is made from bacon? 0.000:10
mariogripYes, it uses eggs as battery00:10
ChloeWolfieGirlIt sounds like a whole british breakfast xD00:10
mariogriphehe, it's Chinese!00:11
mariogrip:P00:11
ChloeWolfieGirlWheres the rice? :P00:11
mariogriprice is the antenna00:13
mariogrip:)00:13
ChloeWolfieGirlThats one fanci phone00:13
mariogripJup!00:14
jholtomlg has some funky build processes00:15
* ChloeWolfieGirl pretends to know how phones and build processes work00:16
jholtomthats ok00:16
jholtomyou'll learn00:16
mariogripwhy, cannot they use the tools that google provides... and use stander android tree00:16
jholtommariogrip: they do00:17
jholtombut for the g300:17
jholtomthey bastardize the hammerhead dev tree00:17
jholtomand just patch it00:17
jholtomso when I want to build an 'LG AOSP'00:17
jholtomI run a lunch aosp_hammerhead-userdebug00:17
jholtomand then make00:17
jholtomand grab from the generic folder in out00:17
jholtomfor the g300:17
jholtomwtf00:18
mariogripah! so they just coped lol00:18
jholtomwonder how it'll work when I drop it into the ubuntu tree00:20
mariogripjust delete hammerhead00:21
mariogripor replace00:22
jholtomwell...00:22
jholtomi'm supposed to 'merge' them00:22
mariogripyeah00:22
jholtomeh, we'll see what happens00:22
jholtomoh dear, some kid wants to add me on LinkedIN00:22
mariogripxP00:22
jholtom11 years old is too young, yo00:23
mariogriplol00:23
jholtomhow you doing mariogrip?00:23
mariogripdoing good :) you?00:24
mariogripjust trying to find out why my lxc issnt working!00:25
jholtomoh my god.00:31
jholtomWHAT THE FUCK LG00:31
jholtomis that really ok?00:32
mariogrip?00:32
jholtomtheir source just uses the hammerhead for everything00:33
jholtomand then I manually patch everything else00:33
jholtommaybe I'm overreacting00:34
jholtombut basically lg's source release for the g300:34
jholtomis using the hammerhead00:34
jholtomand just calling it good00:34
mariogrip:P00:34
jholtomso...in theory00:35
jholtomI should be able to boot the hammerhead image00:35
jholtomif I patch up the kernel a tad00:35
mariogripYeah!00:35
jholtomthere is just so much wrong with that00:36
jholtomat least, its easy00:37
mariogriplol00:38
mariogripI hope oneplus two will not be a cyanogenmod phone00:40
mariogripafter all that shit they did!00:40
mariogripI used to like cyanogenmod, but after all shit they said and done. i don't really want to support them...00:42
mariogripand fucking microsoft is helping them to take over android!00:42
mariogriphttp://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/microsoft-to-invest-in-cyanogen-hopes-to-take-android-away-from-google/00:43
ChloeWolfieGirlI dont think it will, they're trying to move away by creating oxygen OS00:47
mariogripYeah, and i'm so glad for that!00:47
mariogripI hope cyaogenmod and microsoft fails so badly! they will cry alone with there nokia phones!00:48
* ahoneybun is happy that cynogenmod is there00:49
* mariogrip was glad, after he read the news....00:51
jholtomall done with them00:51
jholtomI don't really like oneplus either, tbh00:51
mariogripi'm so glad we have wonderful company like canonical.00:51
jholtom....00:51
jholtomI really struggle with canonical00:51
mariogripMeh, without them we didn't have a awesome os! them me and my gf uses00:52
mariogripthat*00:52
jholtom'awesome'00:52
jholtom oh well00:52
mariogrip:)00:52
jholtomI live in the past, I guess...I don't agree with many of their design decision00:52
mariogripI got used to it really quickly. it snappy and fast. i have noting bad to say about it00:54
nexusnoobhi everyone. should DualBootInstallation work with an encrypted nexus 4?00:54
jholtomnexusnoob: probably not00:54
nexusnoobit installs but i can not boot, stuck at google logo00:55
* ahoneybun like KDE00:55
mariogripI guess encrypted don't even work in normal installation of ubuntu phone00:55
nexusnoobok, but then where is the installer app putting stuff? could i move it to an unencrypted part or so?00:56
* mariogrip thinks that too :) but unity best issn't it?00:56
mariogripto /data inside a image file00:57
* ChloeWolfieGirl likes unity and gnome00:57
mariogripsystem.img00:57
jholtomdata is encrypted00:57
jholtomtherefore00:57
jholtomit can't grab it00:57
jholtomand it'll just sorta hang00:57
mariogripyes00:57
nexusnoobok, makes sense00:57
nexusnoobmaybe this could be added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation ?00:58
mariogripbut, what does like the device fales to boot01:20
mariogripgps, i guess that is not needed to boot01:21
ChloeWolfieGirlI wouldnt assume the need for gps to boot01:21
mariogripyeah, that why i think is kinda weird that that is stopping the device for booting01:22
ChloeWolfieGirlIts strange but not imposible01:24
ChloeWolfieGirlI can't think of anything that ubuntu-location could be other then gps and other location services, but nore do I think it should be requried to boot01:25
mariogripI will take a closer look at the log, maybe there is some thing hidden01:25
ChloeWolfieGirlperhaps, perhaps ubuntu-location could be something that points some sort of boot command to a  certain location in the file system?01:26
mariogripYeah, maybe.01:28
mariogripas launchpad says: "A location service aggregating position/velocity/heading updates and exporting them over dbus."01:31
mariogripso, i guess it's gps01:31
mariogripThen, i have no idea why it's blocking the boot progress01:32
ChloeWolfieGirlThats strange...01:32
mariogriplooks like the ubuntu irc server are unstable...01:36
jholtomits...not ubuntu's irc server.01:37
jholtomthis is freenode01:37
mariogripno, they have some always on server01:37
mariogrips01:37
jholtomum, no01:38
jholtomthis channel is on freenode01:38
mariogripsomething like this https://www.irccloud.com01:38
jholtomyeah, a bouncer01:39
mariogripsee01:39
jholtomthat would be a freenode server decoupling from the network01:39
jholtomnot a bouncer going out01:39
jholtom"In computer networking, specifically Internet Relay Chat (IRC), netsplit is the disconnection of a given node from the previously established network or between two nodes"01:40
jholtomthats part of freenode, not their bouncer01:40
ChloeWolfieGirloh gosh its just getting worse01:40
mariogripah, i got it01:40
mariogripmsg01:40
mariogripomg01:40
jholtomits just freenode, chill01:40
mariogrip'ubuntu-location-service' (instance '') hit respawn limit - rebooting01:44
ChloeWolfieGirlwhat?01:46
mariogripthat's what making so the device is not booting01:46
jakew02mariogrip, so, -0 didn't work :03:17
jakew02:\03:17
mariogriphumm03:17
mariogripGood night guys! cya all tomorrow :)03:23
AskUbuntuAm I to submit bug reports for Ubuntu core apps to launchpad.net | http://askubuntu.com/q/58958503:25
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AskUbuntuChanges to fstab overwritten after reboot. Ubuntu Touch 15.04 (r1) on a Nexus 7 (2013) | http://askubuntu.com/q/58962204:57
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AskUbuntuUbuntuphone--> Android-Apps | http://askubuntu.com/q/58965006:49
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dholbachgood morning07:49
rpadovanio/07:50
rpadovanioSoMoN, o/ could you ping me when you have 10 minutes to talk about the search engines model? :-)09:05
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oSoMoNrpadovani, let’s talk about it now09:17
rpadovanioSoMoN, thanks :-) So, you asked me to change the implementation I pushed on lp to inherit the class from QFileSystemModel to avoid to implement setData()09:18
rpadovaniI tried during the weekend, but QFileSystemModel returns a QTree, and qml doesn't read it09:18
rpadovanioSoMoN, so I think it add difficult have an inheritance from QFileSystemModel, and I don't think is the best way to go, but I wuould like to hear your opinion09:19
rpadovaniactual implementation is here: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/webbrowser-app/searchenginesmodel/view/head:/src/app/webbrowser/searchengines-model.cpp09:20
oSoMoNrpadovani, I guess that works too, although I’m pretty sure it could be made to inherit from QFileSystemModel (my original point was not to avoid implementing setData(), but that the model would update itself automatically when files are added/removed from the directory)09:23
oSoMoNrpadovani, with your implementation, if the contents of the directory change after the model has been loaded, the changes won’t be reflected, and the model will be outdated09:24
oSoMoNbut I guess it would be good enough for a first implementation, we can revisit later09:24
AskUbuntuInstalling Ubuntu touch on Virtual device | http://askubuntu.com/q/58969109:25
rpadovanioSoMoN, actually, it reflects changes to the directory, like a new file, because I added the signal09:26
rpadovanioSoMoN, about the inheritance from QFileSystemModel, I need to add a function to convert from QTree to QList to have a model for qml09:27
rpadovanioSoMoN, what it misses now is a filter for xml files (added locally) and, well, all about settings, like save the default one, use what user choose, and so on09:28
oSoMoNrpadovani, I’m not seeing any signal connection to update the model when the contents of the directory change?09:29
rpadovanioSoMoN, line 48 connect(m_dir, SIGNAL(directoryLoaded(QString)), this, SLOT(onDirectoryLoaded()));09:29
oSoMoNrpadovani, the documentation for directoryLoaded says "This signal is emitted when the gatherer thread has finished to load the path.", it doesn’t say that it will be emitted again when the contents of the dir change09:30
rpadovanioSoMoN, yes, I see, I don't find the documentation that explains why, but it works09:36
oSoMoNrpadovani, interesting, then that’s all good :)09:36
rpadovanioSoMoN, talking about the branch, do you want it includes all about the management of search engine or it has to be only for the model, so I add the filters and it's done?09:38
oSoMoNrpadovani, just the model will be enough in that branch09:39
rpadovanioSoMoN, ok cool :-) Thanks for your time! btw, I see you're quite busy in these days, do you prefer I take a break from webbrowser until you have more time, or is it ok?09:41
oSoMoNrpadovani, it’s ok, but I’m rather busy indeed, I’m not keeping up with all your MRs very well lately, I’ll try to be more diligent about reviewing them this week09:42
rpadovanigreat, ty!09:43
seb128oSoMoN, hey09:53
seb128oSoMoN, could you approve https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/gallery-app/some-translations-tweaks/+merge/236511 (or https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/gallery-app/update-translations-template/+merge/247395 not sure why I've both, depends if you like the X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack or not)09:54
oSoMoNseb128, just a sec, I’ll take a look09:54
seb128oSoMoN, thanks09:54
oSoMoNseb128, so only one of the two is needed, does the gallery app really ship its translations in langpacks?09:56
oSoMoN(if so I guess the first MR should go)09:57
seb128oSoMoN, it doesn't atm but we do that for e.g system settings, it means that you get the template updated on the ubuntu side during the package build, which means you don't get those outdated template issues where you need a manual refresh09:58
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Inconvenience Yourself Day! :-D09:58
oSoMoNseb128, does it mean that langpacks will start shipping translations for gallery-app though?09:59
seb128dpm, ^ can you help?09:59
* dpm reads backlog10:00
seb128dpm, if we add X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack to gallery-app, does it mean it starts being in langpacks? I did those changes a while ago and I don't remember exactly why now, I think it's to get the template update coming from the ubuntu package and avoiding manual refresh commits to trunk10:01
oSoMoNseb128, btw, for webbrowser-app what I do is that I manually update the template when required and push the update directly to trunk (and afaik we do it for a few other apps too), so while not great because it’s a manual process, it doesn’t involve going through CI just for a template update10:03
oSoMoNseb128, if you’re fine with it, I can do that now for gallery-app10:03
dpmseb128, yeah, X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack is needed for universe packages. It tells LP explicitly that translations should be stripped and imported10:03
seb128oSoMoN, reality is that "delete a photo" is untranslated because the template is outdated and https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/gallery-app/update-translations-template is waiting since january and still not commited, the system obviously doesn't work10:04
dpmotherwise, if gallery-app were in main, it wouldn't be needed10:04
dpmas translations would be imported anyway10:04
seb128dpm, well, do we want it in langpack is the question from oSoMoN I think10:04
oSoMoNseb128, ack, but I think the problem here is different, there should be someone owning the gallery-app MRs and ensuring they don’t bitrot (I’ll check with Bill who that someone should be)10:05
seb128oSoMoN, right, but we could also not have to worry about updating the template and let lp does it for us :-)10:06
seb128which is orthogonal, but still one less manual thing to do10:06
oSoMoNseb128, agreed10:06
seb128oSoMoN, anyway, please ack one of those changes, whichever you prefer, so we can get those strings translated :-)10:07
seb128oSoMoN, thanks10:07
dpmseb128, I'm in two minds about this: I like the automation of the template updates, but translations are delivered after a delay (whenever we update langpacks). And for translations managed upstream, the template needs manual update, but the translations themselves are committed daily and up-to-date. I think the langpack infrastructure needs some improvements, but we should probably still recommend it to be able to control over which languages are shipp10:07
dpmed and how much space is used in the images10:07
dpmoSoMoN, ^10:08
oSoMoNseb128, let me push the template update to trunk like I do for webbrowser-app then, you will get the update sooner10:09
seb128oSoMoN, shrug, I've one of my branches doing that, do you plan to just discard to redo that yourself?10:09
seb128oSoMoN, can't you just approve the branch which is waiting?10:09
oSoMoNseb128, I can, but then it has to go through the whole ci train process just to land the update10:10
oSoMoNseb128, I don’t mean to invalidate your work, I just want to get the result in your hands faster10:10
seb128oSoMoN, well you can just approve and I'm easy to commit/push myself10:10
seb128I'm happy*10:11
seb128but as you want10:11
seb128no need to go through CI10:11
oSoMoNseb128, sure, if you have rights to push to lp:gallery-app, then please go ahead10:11
oSoMoNlet me approve the MR10:11
seb128thanks10:11
oSoMoNseb128, actually, the template is still outdated… you will need to rebase it on the latest trunk10:12
seb128oSoMoN, yeah, I just did that10:13
oSoMoNseb128, which branch?10:13
mandelElleo, I updated https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/test-space-left/+merge/249093 it should be working as expected now, I was not parsing the output correctly and it would not use the value from --size. Should be fixed now.10:14
oSoMoNseb128, nevermind, I had approved the other one, it was outdated, let me approve the one with the langpack chanegs10:16
oSoMoNchanges10:16
seb128oSoMoN, just commit manually, it's going to be easier :-)10:16
seb128I was going to merge/copy the updated pot over the one you approved10:17
seb128oSoMoN, but let's just get that done, it's a minor one :-)10:17
oSoMoNseb128, done10:18
seb128oSoMoN, thanks!10:18
oSoMoN(sorry that it took so long and so much energy just to do this trivial thing)10:18
seb128dpm, thanks10:19
oSoMoNseb128, I marked your two branches rejected now10:19
seb128oSoMoN, not your fault, thanks for getting it in, that was waiting since octobre :/ (my fault as well, you reviewed it by then but asked me to rebase on trunk and that slipped through)10:19
seb128oSoMoN, k10:19
dannythedhi10:36
dannythedi already ordered my aquaris 4.5 ubuntu edition ofc, now it didnt arrive yet :) i wonder if the app store is reachable via http?10:36
dannythedjust to have a look :D10:36
popeythere is an unofficial app store web front end10:40
popeyhttps://appstore.bhdouglass.com/apps10:40
dannythedrofl @ ikea app10:40
dannythedhahahahahah10:40
dannythedlooks nice10:42
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AskUbuntuVideo not played on my nexus 5 ubuntu | http://askubuntu.com/q/58974011:51
alitahi all!11:58
silbhello :)11:59
alitaI have a question about ubuntu touch: is there any kind of encryption availabe for phone's persistent memory?12:01
Elleomandel: okay, I'm on holiday the rest of this week, but I'll try and find a spare minute to retest later today12:03
silbhas anybode managed to install ubuntu touch on the samsung galaxy s4?12:05
jgdxElleo, have a great time off :)12:24
Elleojgdx: thanks :)12:25
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g105bHow long did the bq phone take to sell out last sale?13:20
ogra_early afternoon iirc13:22
g105bI'm going to grab one as soon as it comes on sale, developing an app and want to target Ubuntu.13:23
popeyg105b: super13:23
g105bI read something ages ago that it would be possible to run Android apps in some sort of wrapper? Can't find any mention of this magic feature anywhere now.13:24
ogra_not really13:25
ogra_you would need some proprietary wrapper like the one jolla uses13:26
g105bnever mind, I don't like middleware.13:28
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ogra_pitti, so your last comment on the LD_PRELOAD thread kind of says we can never run systemd based installs on any of our phones ... i wonder if anyone is aware of that yet13:44
pittiwell, at some point our set of supported phones is going to get non-ancient kernels?13:45
pitti(that might still be some years out, of course)13:46
ogra_pitti, not within the next few years, yeah13:46
pittiogra_: yeah, that's why I mentioned it (some people might not be aware)13:47
ogra_i surely wasnt13:47
ogra_3.4 is kind of a quasi standard on kitkat devices ... most of them use it i guess13:47
pittiOOI, when  did that get the last security update?13:48
ogra_and we wont move to android 5.0 if there isnt a customer for it i guess13:48
ogra_the kernels we ship got all at least one review from the kernel and security teams13:48
ogra_they should be fine13:49
ogra_(security wise)13:49
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pittiogra_: that's why I didn't really put any rush into systemd-ifying the phone, beyond the initial "gets to unity8"13:50
pittinow, I don't know which features we are missing/issues we have with trying to run systemd on 3.4, I haven't ried yet13:50
ogra_well, we wont even be able to use that anywahere then13:50
ogra_pitti, i'd say back tro sysv then :)13:56
pittiogra_: yes, that's what we need, supporting a third init system :)13:57
ogra_init=/bin/dash13:57
ogra_!!13:57
pitti^5s13:57
ogra_:)13:57
pittisergiusens: I hate to nag, but any chance the emulator could get fixed for devel-proposed? (bug 1423459)13:58
ubot5bug 1423459 in goget-ubuntu-touch (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-emulator create fails for devel-proposed: Failed to unmount temp dir where system image was created" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142345913:58
pittias soon as we get another promotion, we'll again will be emulator-less, and current devel is already too old to be sensibly testable13:58
ogra_and there has to be a new promotion soon13:59
ogra_we're switching all focus to vivid now13:59
ogra_rtm is in "quasi maintenance" mode13:59
ogra_(until we sync a stable vivid into it)13:59
pittiogra_: btw, my mako has run vivid-proposed until yesterday, I'm proud :)14:00
ogra_heh, you are definitely brave :)14:01
pittiand so far it has only wiped the contacts from my owncloud server, and annoyed me with a few necessary reboots because mobile data went down adn didn't come back14:01
pittibut I managed to find replacements for my most crucial apps14:01
pittiporting google authenticator keys from the android app was fun :)14:02
ogra_there is a bahn app btw14:02
ogra_doesnt allow tickets though14:02
ogra_and iirc the train radar should work in the browser14:03
pittiogra_: yeah, I installed the pdf.js program to view the PDF ticket; going to try it on Friday :)14:03
ogra_oh, i find docviewer a lot better for pdf's14:04
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pittiogra_: I tried that first, but it doesn't zoom14:04
pittiso it's useless for this purpose14:04
ogra_ah14:04
ogra_yeah14:04
pittipdf.js is dog slow (unsurprisingly), but has zoom14:04
ogra_buut using poppler is a lot less demanding :)14:04
ogra_right14:04
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pittiogra_: so while I'm at home and online I'm mostly good now, I think; I'll keep android for travelling and being abroad (offline)14:09
pittiI'm also missing a good email client, but that's not a big blocker14:09
ogra_did you try dekko yet ?14:10
pittiyes, of course14:10
pittibut that still has some way to go14:10
ogra_and you dont like it ?14:10
popeypitti: docviewer does zoom14:10
popeybut we haven't landed it yet14:10
popey:)14:10
pittipopey: ah, that explains it :) but good to know that it's coming!14:10
pittiogra_: no offline mode, no folder subscription, no mass sync (and that requires folder subscription), and no thread view :(14:11
popeypatches welcome :)14:11
pittiogra_: but oh well, it's "beta"; and it made a lot of progress since the last time, which is nice14:11
sergiusenspitti: just log into one.ubuntu.com and get new keys using the camera in the auth app ;-)14:11
pittisergiusens: heh, I have quite some more :) (sudo and ssh on my server, bitcoin.de, google, etc.)14:12
pittisergiusens: but transferring the keys isn't so bad14:12
ogra_pitti, yeah ... make sure to let DanChapman know about your reqs. ... took a while but we recently got support for multipart signed messages ... which was my biggest blocker :)14:12
pittihttp://dan.hersam.com/tools/gen-qr-code.html is really handy14:12
pittiyou type in the key etc., and it generates a QR code14:13
pitti(locally/offline, of course, not on the server)14:13
sergiusenspitti: and emulator speak, I'm not aware of directly breaking it myself; but I can look; it's a vivid issue right? ogra_ does it work on your trusty install?14:13
pittiogra_: yup, filed a bug today about offline mode, and there are bugs about thread view and folder subscription already14:13
ogra_sergiusens, i havent started the emulator in 2-3months now :)14:13
ogra_i'll have to check14:13
sergiusensogra_: just create, no need to start :-)14:13
pittisergiusens: could be; creating devel works, devel-proposed fails on that weird mount issue14:13
pittiogra_: wow -- you always brick a hw phone?14:15
* pitti really likes the emulator, so much less hassle for messing around14:15
pittiand big thanks to sergiusens for it!14:16
mterryjibel, in bug 1425161, you say you reproduced.  Can you talk about your SIM state at the time?14:20
ubot5bug 1425161 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "[Wizard] SIM PIN page before language selection" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142516114:20
jibelmterry, what do you mean by SIM state?14:21
mterryjibel, did you have a SIM in, how many, which slots14:21
jibelmterry, 2 SIMs (1 per slot) both locked with a 4 digit PIN code14:21
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ogra_pitti, how would i brick it .... ? as long as flashing works all is fine :)14:22
ogra_i havent managed to break a bootloader yet :)14:22
pittiI brick it all the time14:22
pittiwell, I consider making it r/w and changing the root fs as "bricking"14:23
ogra_i just make it rw in rare occasions ... and usually only while i dpkg -i or while i edit a specific file14:23
ogra_sudo mount -o remount,rw /; do stuff; sudo mount -o remount,ro /14:24
ogra_that way it doesnt really break14:24
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mterryjibel, still can't reproduce  :(  So you have two SIMs inserted, and you still get prompted that you don't have a SIM?14:58
mterryOh!  Not that you don't have a SIM.  You get the "choose your PIN" page?  I'm confused exactly what you see (is the language page still there, just afterwards?)14:59
mterryOH OH14:59
mterryYou see the page to unlock your SIM14:59
mterryOK14:59
mterryThat makes sense now14:59
jibelmterry, I see the SIM PIN unlock page before the language page14:59
jibelmterry, language should come first15:00
mterryjibel, I'm a dumb American and we don't have SIM PINs  :)15:00
mterryjibel, I get it now though15:00
jibelmterry, that and your default language is English ;)15:00
jgdxpitti, ping15:04
jgdxpitti, get to take a look at that email I sent you? :)15:05
pittijgdx: not yet, sorry, backlogged; I'll get to it ASAP15:06
jgdxpitti, awesome, thanks!15:06
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OerHeksnew sale announcement https://twitter.com/bqreaders15:47
rhuddierenatu, hello, could I get a review from you for my small mp: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/address-book-app/avatar-objectname/+merge/25094016:35
renaturhuddie, approved16:35
rhuddierenatu, thank you . this is so that we can add a photo to a contact in autopilot test.16:36
renatunice16:36
rhuddierenatu, is there anything else needed for landing?16:37
renaturhuddie, bfiller need to ask for a silo, but I think the landing is blocked these days16:38
renatubfiller, could you add it to silo 27 ^^16:38
VercHi :)16:42
VercI've got a question. Where can I find what's new in Ubuntu Touch 15.04?16:43
mariogripVerc: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/16:45
Vercwhoa, so many of them16:46
VercI think I will stay with the current stable version16:46
Vercyet I am eager to know what they plan to introduce in UT 15.0416:46
ogra_Verc, get a nexus4 and try yourself ;)16:48
VercI've got one :P16:48
Vercbut I've chosen "stable" channel and I'm afraid that flashing "devel" could destroy my settings, photos, music and other data16:49
bfillerrenatu: yes I can add that16:51
ogra_you can log in via adb (enable developer mode) and use sudo system-image-cli --switch ubuntu-touch/devel that wont touch your user data16:51
mariogripHey ogra_! is ubuntu-location required for mir to start?16:51
ogra_mariogrip, nope16:51
ogra_mariogrip, didnt you have a spinner on screen already ?16:52
ogra_that would mean Mir starts just fine16:52
Verc@ogra, and how to return tu stable? change "*/devel" tp "*/stable" ?16:52
mariogripnope, no spin screen16:52
mariogrip'ubuntu-location-service' (instance '') hit respawn limit - rebooting16:52
mariogripthe ubuntu-location-service is rebooting my device :P16:53
ogra_Verc, yes, but stable is usually horridly outdated and behind anyway ...16:53
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ogra_mariogrip, just remove the jobs from /etc/init then to not have it do that :)16:54
Vercok @ogra_ I'm coming with devel16:54
mariogripogra_ i did that16:54
ogra_then it shouldnt start anymore16:54
ogra_(unless there is some session job as well, check in /usr/share/upstart/sessions/ )16:55
mariogripOkey, now that's out the way, i get this... 'lightdm' (instance '') hit respawn limit - rebooting16:59
ogra_ok, thats serious :)16:59
mariogripAnd i need lightdm :O17:00
ogra_is your container up and running ?17:00
mariogripyes17:00
mariogripi can check logcat17:00
mariogripfor errors17:00
ogra_and you can enter it with lxc-console -nandroid -t0 ?17:00
Vercogra17:01
Verchow to ensure that telephone is in developer mode/17:01
Verc?17:01
mariogripogra_ yes Connected to tty 017:02
Vercfastboot devices?17:02
mariogriproot@bacon:/ #  mmm bacon17:02
ogra_Verc, adb devices (you need the android-tools-adb package installed on your PC)17:02
ogra_mariogrip, well, that sounds fine then ... are you sure you have all GLES drivers in place and all ?17:03
mariogripE/UpstartPropertyWatcher( 1384): Failed to connect socket for '/dev/socket/upstart-text-bridge' on fd 7 (2 [No such file or directory])17:03
mariogripfrom logcar17:03
ogra_yeah, not good17:03
ogra_you might be missing kernel options17:04
ogra_did you use janimo's config checker script ?17:04
mariogripyes17:04
Vercsudo: system-image-cli: command not found :<17:05
ogra_Verc, you are logged into the phone ?17:05
VercI don't know xD17:06
Vercadb devises shows the device17:06
VercList of devices attached  059744651bca358cdevice17:06
ogra_did you do "adb shell" then ?17:06
Vercno, thanks <317:06
Vercadm shell error closed17:07
Verc*adb17:07
Vercok it works17:11
Verci've had to unlock the screen17:11
Verci've typed "sudo system-image-cli --switch ubuntu-touch/devel17:12
mariogripogra_ here is my kernel config btw: https://github.com/ubuntu-touch-oneplus-one/android_kernel_oneplus_one/blob/master/arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_bacon_defconfig17:13
ogra_it will silently download a new image and cross-gade you17:13
ogra_*grade17:13
VercI've typed "sudo system-image-cli --switch ubuntu-touch/devel" and then typed password (the one from my telephone) and nothing happens17:13
Vercok17:13
Vercsorry, I have not seen your reply :)17:14
mariogripbtw, it failed to compile with: CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_MATCH_CONNBYTES17:16
oSoMoNom26er, hey I commented on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/142559817:16
ubot5Launchpad bug 1425598 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "No expired certificate dialog " [Undecided,Incomplete]17:16
om26eroSoMoN, looking.17:16
om26eroSoMoN, did you test on rtm or vivid-proposed ?17:17
oSoMoNom26er, that’s on vivid proposed (latest image on krillin)17:18
om26eroSoMoN, interesting, I opened that site for the first time only to not see any warning dialog.17:19
om26erdialog/page17:19
oSoMoNom26er, can you reliably reproduce the issue?17:19
Verc@ogra_ the "devel" channel meant the 15.04?17:19
ogra_yes17:19
Verc*means17:19
Vercok17:19
om26eroSoMoN, let me factory reset device and i'll get back to you. Doing that now.17:19
ogra_after it rebooted you should see 15.04 in the system-settings17:20
oSoMoNom26er, ok17:20
oSoMoNom26er, btw (and unrelated), all webbrowser-app CI runs have been failing lately, even though most of the time all the sub-jobs all succeed, see an example failure here: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/webbrowser-app-ci/1489/console17:20
oSoMoNom26er, can you advise on what the problem is?17:20
om26eroSoMoN, let me look into it.17:21
Verc@ogra_ it's over and the telephone has not rebooted17:22
om26eroSoMoN, confirmed, on image 122 that site opened without any warning17:23
oSoMoNom26er, not seeing that on 121, let me upgrade and test again17:24
oSoMoNom26er, not seeing that on 122 either, I’m getting the warning17:26
Verc@ogra_ I've rebooted it and it's still 14.10 (r15)17:28
ogra_try: adb reboot recovery17:28
om26eroSoMoN, what could be causing that ?17:28
ogra_it should flash then ...17:28
oSoMoNom26er, no idea17:28
oSoMoNom26er, just to prove you what I’m seeing: http://people.canonical.com/~osomon/expired.png17:29
om26eroSoMoN, I figured :D17:29
om26eroSoMoN, I was opening with http17:30
oSoMoNd’oh17:30
om26eroSoMoN, with https:// it does show the error17:30
oSoMoNof course with http:// there’s no certificate request…17:30
oSoMoNom26er, please mark the bug invalid17:31
om26eroSoMoN, done. commented.17:31
Verc@ogra i am in something like clock work mod17:31
om26eroSoMoN, oSoMoN another one can you check if you can copy text from address bar17:31
om26eroSoMoN, I can't. the menu opens under top panel of unity17:32
VercUbuntu Touch (CWM-based) Recovery17:32
oSoMoNom26er, known issue in the UITK17:32
om26eroSoMoN, do you have the bug number handy ?17:32
oSoMoNno, looking for it17:33
mariogripogra_ oneplus uses this console ttyHSL0 and with ubuntu i have to use tty0 (I can try to add custom serial port and mode: tty0,115200,n8 )17:34
mariogripmight this be a problem?17:34
oSoMoNom26er, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/141319417:34
ubot5Launchpad bug 1413194 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "[regression] Cut/Copy/Paste options displayed off the top of the screen from the addressbar" [High,Fix committed]17:34
ogra_no, shouldnt17:34
mariogripogra_ okey, how about the serial port and mode+17:35
ogra_Verc, i fear your recovery is to old for doing something like --switch ...17:35
ogra_so either stay with stable or re-flash with a newer channel17:35
Vercv 6.0.4.617:35
ogra_we dont have that screen since ages anymore17:36
om26eroSoMoN, thanks17:36
ogra_in our recovery image17:36
mariogripogra_ my bad, tty0 is a virtual terminal , it shunt have serial port or mode...17:37
Verchow to change the recovery17:37
Verc?17:37
mariogripshuldn't*17:37
mariogripshouldn't*17:37
mariogripVerc: flash a new one with fastboot17:41
mariogripfastboot flash recovery <the recovery>17:41
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rpadovanioSoMoN, o/ still around?17:51
rpadovani(Sorry, I know I'm harrasing you so much in these days)17:51
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oSoMoNrpadovani, yes, I’m around :)17:56
elopioping renatu: sorry, I messed with your tests.17:56
elopiohttps://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/address-book-app/fix_app_proxy/+merge/25096917:56
rpadovanioSoMoN, I was thinking to the qSettings class in C++, and how to expose its functions (like deleteCache) to QML. Also, with Qt.labs.settings I can access to settings also via QML. So we can easily set the homepage via qml and read it via C++ at startup. The only 'problem' is to choose where configuration file should be locate. Atm is in .config/webbbrowser/settings.conf, but following QT standards should be in .config/Canonical/webbrowser.con17:59
rpadovanif or .config/webbroserapp/webbrowserapp.conf17:59
rpadovani(see platform specific note here: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qsettings.html)18:00
rpadovaniof course we can set it whereever we want, but if we follow the qt standars is easier to implement (we only have to set18:01
rpadovani    this->setOrganizationName("Canonical");18:01
rpadovani    this->setOrganizationDomain("canonical.com");18:01
rpadovani    this->setApplicationName("webbrowser-app");18:01
banned_studiohi18:01
oSoMoNrpadovani, deleting the cache is not really a setting per se (although it will appear in the settings UI, it’s not something we store on disk)18:01
rpadovanioSoMoN, it isn't a setting, but we shouldn't put all settings-related functions in only one class?18:02
oSoMoNrpadovani, we should try and keep the settings under ~/.config/webbrowser-app/18:02
oSoMoNrpadovani, no, no need for that18:02
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rpadovanioSoMoN, ok for the file. About functions, where do you want to place them? I'm thinking to delete cache because it's easy to implement18:04
rpadovanithere isn't a 'cache manager' in the app, afaik18:04
rpadovaniso I don't have any idea on where to put it18:04
oSoMoNrpadovani, there will be a method on the WebContext object exposed by oxide, but at the moment there is nothing like that, so we simply can’t implement it18:05
banned_studioI installed Ubuntu-Touch on my bq E4.5 since the software is public, but why do i need a ubuntu-one account to install software?18:05
rpadovanioSoMoN, oh, I see. Ok, so for the moment I just make qsettings visible by qt.labs.setting and vice-versa and I try to implement homepage setting18:06
rpadovanithanks for your time :-)18:06
oSoMoNrpadovani, you’re very welcome!18:06
mariogripogra_ I cannot seem to find any errors in my kernel config... is there any way i can get some more debug messages then this? Failed to connect socket for '/dev/socket/upstart-text-bridge' on fd 7 (2 [No such file or directory])18:13
rpadovanibanned_studio, so when you buy a paid app you can reinstall it on another device without rebuying it, because it is associated with your account18:13
g105bIs it possible to tether the data connection using the bq Aquaris E45?18:16
banned_studio@g105b, i don't know, i installed ubuntu-touch just an hour ago18:17
g105bbanned_studio: Thanks for your input.18:17
mariogripg105b you can use adb for usb tether18:20
banned_studio@rpadovani, ok i understand, but the bq-image comes without a shell, so i can not "apt-get installl ..." how to install the shell/terminal without a one-account?18:20
g105bjust saying, this isn't Twitter (no need to at-mention people).18:21
rpadovanibanned_studio, you need to connect the phone to a computer and use adb shell to access the shell18:23
banned_studio@rpadovani, this is also a problem: ~$ adb shell18:24
banned_studioerror: closed18:24
banned_studiothe phone is in dev mode18:25
banned_studiobut adb is not working18:25
dobeyTassadar: hi! did something break the hammerhead builds? seems a couple new images are in 14.09-proposed for mako, but system-settings is not showing an available update :-/18:28
dobeybanned_studio: unlock your screen18:28
dobeybanned_studio: you have to unlock the screen now to be able to use phablet-shell or adb18:28
banned_studiook :)18:29
banned_studiothat is working18:29
Tassadardobey: it's on version 202, just like s-i.ubuntu.com18:30
Tassadarmaybe try running system-image-cli -vvvv via adb shell?18:30
dobeyweird18:31
banned_studiobut how to install vlc?18:31
dobeybanned_studio: is it in the click store?18:31
banned_studiono18:31
dobeythen build a click package with a reasonable touch interface and put it in the store, and then install it :)18:32
banned_studiothere is also no kodi (xbmc) ...18:32
dobeyeh? there's at least one xbmc remote app in the store18:32
dobeysystemimage.keyring.KeyringError: expired keyring timestamp18:33
dobeyTassadar: ^^ hrmm18:33
Tassadarwat18:33
banned_studioi do not need the remote apb, i need the full app18:33
mariogripjanimo, i have a problem upstart property watcher.  Failed to connect socket for '/dev/socket/upstart-text-bridge' on fd 7 (2 [No such file or directory]), any ideas?18:34
banned_studioi'd like to use ubuntu-touch as a dlna, airplay and samba-server18:34
dobeybanned_studio: then port the full app to a suitable interface for the device you're wanting to run it on, and get it in the store18:34
dobeybanned_studio: if you want it as a server, not a client, i think you'd be more interested in the snappy builds, not the phone images18:35
dobeyminidlna should be pretty easy to package up as a snappy package i'd think18:35
dobey(or you could just run ubuntu server instead)18:36
janimomariogrip, no idea. Does the /dev/socket/ dir exist?18:36
banned_studioi also think so, the bq-image would't have something like that, right, its more like experimental?18:36
Tassadardobey: does it tell you which key is it exactly?18:37
Tassadaror pastebin me the whole log if you can18:37
mariogripjanimo nope18:37
dobeyTassadar: no, just that error and a python trace :-/18:37
Tassadargimme the trace18:37
renatuelopio, approved18:38
dobeyTassadar: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10412514/18:38
renatubfiller, one more for silo 27: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/address-book-app/fix_app_proxy/+merge/25096918:38
elopiothanks renatu.18:38
dobeyTassadar: maybe the signing key has expired that's in those files?18:38
janimomariogrip, try mkdir-ing it from init.rc18:38
Tassadarsome of the keys have 2 years expiration time18:39
Tassadarsurely I haven't been running this thing for that long Oo18:39
banned_studio@dobey, i tried minidlna on Ubuntu, but it is just "mini", xupnpd is more powerfull18:39
dobeybanned_studio: ok, then use that instead.18:39
dobeyTassadar: heh, has hammerhead even existed that long? :P18:40
mariogripjanimo, never mind, i was looking in wrong dir, i does exist18:40
dobeynope18:40
Tassadarsome of the keys have 0 set as expiration time, dunno what that means18:40
mariogripi was looking in rootsf18:40
dobeyoct 2013 is when it was released18:40
Tassadar0 means does not expire, apprently18:41
dobeyTassadar: not sure. i'd think that'd mean it doesn't expire. but who knows18:41
banned_studiokodi is nice for a mobile-phone (tablet), therefore i thought kodi is also possible for the ubuntu-touch?18:41
dobeybanned_studio: anything is possible if you port it, i guess18:42
mariogripjanimo, And the upstart-text-bridge is also there, with this permission srwxr-xr-x 1 root   root           0 Jan 15 19:53 upstart-text-bridge18:42
banned_studiohmm, that's my problem, i am not a coder :(18:42
Tassadardobey: all my keys are set to expire either never, or on18:43
Tassadardobey: all my keys are set to expire either never, or on 2016-02-2318:43
dobeyi don't know why you'd want to use a phone with limited cpu/ram/storage as a file server though.18:43
dobeyTassadar: hrmm18:44
Tassadarthat's really weird18:44
banned_studiois it a so big problem to import the arm-tools/apps from Raspberry Pi to the ubuntu -touch?18:44
dobeybarry: ^^ hey, i am getting a expired keyring timestamp error trying to update on my hammerhead, and Tassadar says all the keys are good on his end18:44
TassadarI'm gonna try updating mine18:44
dobeybarry: i don't know what that is, but i guess you're talking about the RPi B+, which is armv6, and runs android, so yes, that would be problematic18:45
barryTassadar, dobey any chance your clock is off?18:45
dobeyerr18:45
dobeynot barry that time18:45
dobeybanned_studio: i don't know what that is, but i guess you're talking about the RPi B+, which is armv6, and runs android, so yes, that would be problematic18:45
dobeybarry: no, it says 1:45 PM which is the same as my workstation, and server18:45
banned_studio@dobey, without a terminal i can't clone a git and build an app by myself, can you give me an hint?18:46
dobeywell maybe the tasemnice.eu time is off?18:46
Tassadarit printed time into that backtrace too, and it is correct18:46
Tassadarnope18:46
Tassadarsame problem on my device18:47
dobeybanned_studio: what are you wanting to build?18:47
banned_studiovlc-player18:47
dobeyi'm pretty sure vlc requires a lot of porting work to be usable on an ubuntu phone18:48
dobeyyou should probably chat with the vlc developers about that18:48
banned_studiothat is what i do not understand, it is possible on ubuntu to clone the git an build your own player, but on ubuntu-touch it is not possible? same is with ffmpeg ...18:49
barrydobey: hmm.  can you pastebin the log file or traceback?18:49
barryi suppose it's possible the key is actually expired ;)18:50
dobeybarry: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10412514/18:50
dobeybanned_studio: the phone images are minimal (because phone storage is tiny) and read-only, and the interface is nothing like a standard PC18:50
kenvandinetedg, is there a way to detect if I can create a MIR socket before trying to create it?18:50
kenvandinetedg, requesting the socket crashes on the desktop :/18:51
banned_studiotiny is not the problem, i can raise to 32, 64 or 128 gb sd-card18:51
dobeykenvandine: doesn't Mir create the socket, and you just use it?18:51
kenvandineyeah, but for the trust prompt i need to request it18:51
Tassadaroh18:51
Tassadarthe key has keyring.json18:51
kenvandinewhich crashes...18:51
dobeybanned_studio: then make an ubuntu chroot in your home directory on the phone and build it in there18:51
Tassadarwhich has "expiry" field18:51
kenvandinewithout mir18:51
dobeyTassadar: and it's expired?18:52
Tassadar1424727233, which is 02/23/201518:52
barrydobey: oh yeah.  there's an `expiry` key in the keyring json.  you can unpack the keyring .xz file and dump the json.18:52
dobeyah-ha18:52
Tassadarthat is really weird, year earlier than the key expires18:52
barryTassadar: there ya go :)18:52
Tassadarwth does it get generated? Oo18:52
dobeyTassadar: well at least you found it and can fix it :)18:52
banned_studio@dobey, for you it sounds, "mabe", funny, but i am just a beginner ...18:53
banned_studiomaybe18:53
dobeykenvandine: i think you check for an existing mir socket, and if it doesn't exist, mir isn't running, or something like that18:54
banned_studiois ubuntu touch supporting ext4 on a sd-card?18:54
dobeybanned_studio: ubuntu supports ext4 yes18:54
banned_studiook, will try ...18:54
dobeykenvandine: check for MIR_SOCKET and/or MIR_SERVER_NAME in the env, and if they don't exist, don't try to use mir?18:56
barryTassadar, dobey LP: #142564518:56
ubot5Launchpad bug 1425645 in Ubuntu system image "Provide more better logging for keyring expiration exception" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142564518:56
kenvandinedobey, thx18:56
dobeybarry: having such failures exposed in the UI would be nice too. :)18:57
Tassadarhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-system-image/ubuntu-system-image/server/view/head:/bin/generate-keyrings#L56 what ;__;18:57
Tassadarwhy a year?18:57
barrydobey: LP: #127336618:57
ubot5Launchpad bug 1273366 in Ubuntu system image "Errors should all be emitted as signals" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127336618:57
Tassadarwhy not use the expiration time from the key?18:57
dobeyTassadar: better yet, why doesn't it grap the expiry from the key :)18:58
Tassadarand device-signing has even less, surprising it didn't error out earlier18:58
Tassadarthat means it probably doesn't even check it18:58
dobeyTassadar: i guess the server just does gpg --sign-detached or whtever, which would pass just fine because the key didn't expire :)18:59
Tassadaryeah, the device-signing has 03/26/2014 as timestamp in keyring.json18:59
Tassadarwell, it should be enough to re-run generate-keyrings18:59
dobeyso just re-run generate-keyrings every time? :P19:01
banned_studio@dobey, is it possible to make the "format" on the device or do i have to make it on the PC with gparted?19:01
Tassadargonna manually copy the keyring to the server for now, hopefuly I didn't just break the signing totally19:02
dobeybanned_studio: i don't know. i'd guess e2fsutils is installed, but i don't know for sure. i don't have any phones that support sd cards anyway19:02
Tassadardobey: try it again19:04
Tassadarseems to be working now19:04
dobeyTassadar: just did and now it downloaded/installed the new image19:04
Tassadarcool19:04
Vercis there tutorial step by step how to switch from "stable" to "devel:19:04
Verc??19:04
Tassadarand somebody should probably make a bug about that weird generate-keyrings expiration time for stgraber, huh)19:05
dobeyVerc: "system-image-cli --switch devel"19:06
dobeyVerc: you can respond in-channel19:10
dobeyno need to /query me :)19:10
mariogripwill qcom display caf work with ubuntu touch?19:10
Verchow to do so? Sorry I'm here for the very first time19:10
dobeyjust type in the channel19:12
Vercbut sometimes your nick is red19:12
banned_studio@dobey, under ubuntu-touch "format sd-card" it makes a fat32 and i can 't choose ext2/3 or4 .. is it a bug?19:13
dobeybanned_studio: well if it's a fat partition, then it will probably format it as fat3219:14
dobeybanned_studio: you need to partition it as the right partition type, and then mke2fs on it19:14
dobeybanned_studio: it's probably easier if you just use gparted on a pc19:15
dobeyVerc: yes, that's just a nick hilight because i typed your nick; like this line19:15
banned_studioi'll try with gparted on the pc an will see if ubuntu-touch will accept it ...19:15
Vercdobey: I'm trying :D19:16
dobeybanned_studio: ubuntu is just ubuntu. there is not "ubuntu-touch" it's just ubuntu. there are special image builds for phones and devices, but it's still ubuntu19:16
dobeyVerc: anyway, system-image-cli --switch on the phone is the documented way to switch channels afaik19:17
Vercok i'll try :)19:17
Vercthanks!19:17
tedgkenvandine, Can't you just check to see if the file is there?19:17
tedgkenvandine, I think the handle won't be there without Mir19:17
dobeytedg: i told him to check for MIR_SOCKET env var19:18
dobeyand then i just realized that might not actually work for my use case :-/19:18
kenvandinetedg, i figured it out19:18
kenvandinethere's a mir_connection_is_valid19:19
tedgAh, cool.19:19
kenvandinetedg, now i'm having trouble with my untrusted helper :)19:19
* dobey wonders how to do that from an autopilot test19:20
dobeyveebers, elopio: ^^ any idea how to determine if mir is running from within the autopilot tests?19:20
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veebersdobey: hmm, I recall needing that check before in the past but can't recall off the top of my head the check itself19:22
veebersgive me a moment to see if I can't find it19:22
dobeyk19:22
balloonsI would assume perhaps autopilot.display19:22
veebersdobey: if I don't get to it quick enough, asking in #ubuntu-mir would probably give you an answer (for what to check in the system to see if its running)19:23
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elopiodobey: from the wiki, I see ps aux | grep unity-system-compositor19:23
frendaWhere I can buy  Aquaris "E4.5 Ubuntu Edition" online?19:23
dobeyelopio: ewww19:23
elopiodobey: there are uglier options in there.19:24
dobeyfrenda: bq.com's site when they have a flash sale runnig19:24
dobeyballoons: that's a module, or a property?19:24
frendaIs there any schedule?19:24
balloonsfrenda, tomorrow is another flash sale, starting at 8 am utc I believe19:24
balloonsbe ready, they sell out quick, and good luck!19:25
balloonsdobey, module19:25
balloonshttp://people.canonical.com/~nskaggs/autopilot/api/autopilot.display.html#module-autopilot.display19:25
popeyfrenda: follow @ubuntu or @bqreaders on twitter, or either company on facebook or G+ to find out19:25
veeberselopio, dobey: I would prefer using pusutil and check for unity-system-compositor in that case19:25
balloonsI mean, if nothing else you can try and create a MIR backend and catch the failure19:26
dobeyballoons: that doesn't look like it will tell me if the display is mir or x1119:26
elopioveebers: what's that UPA display?19:26
veeberselopio: sorry I need a second, my machine is going crazy for some reason19:27
balloonsahh found it hah19:27
balloonsit is in platform19:27
balloonsautopilot.platform.get_display_server()19:27
balloonslolz19:27
dobeyballoons: ah, great, that's exactly what i need19:28
elopiodobey: it's using psutil to check for unity-system-compositor :)19:30
dobeyelopio: you ruined the sausage19:30
elopiodobey: I think that's the way recommended by the mir team.19:30
elopioor maybe they have something better now.19:31
ChloeWolfieGirl_ question, do calls work in the background, like if I call someone, put it on speaker then jump to something like the browser, will I still beable to talk to the person?19:32
veebersballoons, dobey, balloons ah right, sorry I probably should have known that off the top of my head :-P19:32
dobeyelopio: sure. but i shouldn't have to reimplement that every time i need to know whether i'm under mir or not. i'd prefer a more sane way of checking for mir, but as long as there's an API in autopilot it's a win for me :)19:33
dobeyChloeWolfieGirl_: pretty sure yes19:34
elopiothat is right :)19:34
banned_studio@dobey, ok, i formated the sd-card with ubuntu in ext4, but now i have a problem, how to get root on the phablet (E4.5) ?19:35
dobeyugh, python3 still doesn't do "foo ? bar : baz" ? :(19:35
dobeybanned_studio: why do you need root?19:35
banned_studiobecause i need to know19:36
dobeybanned_studio: you can use "sudo" to do operations that require root, just the same as on PC19:36
banned_studiook. sudo su works for me :) thanks19:37
dobey*shrug*19:37
balloonselopio, you are correct it checks for the compistor19:37
balloonsinteresting mir doesn't touch a file when running19:38
dobeyballoons: is there where strongbad purchased his computer?19:38
balloonsdobey, ROFL..19:39
dobeyballoons: mir creates a socket file19:39
balloonsstrongbad says yes19:39
dobeyballoons: but to know what file it is, you need to have the MIR_SOCKET env var19:39
balloonsdobey, right-o.. my sentences are coming out fragmented19:39
dobeywhich, if you are not running under the same upstart session, you can't see19:39
dobeymaybe getting that env var from initctl would be better than using psutils and checking for the compositor19:40
banned_studioafter i insered the sd-card (ext4) how to show the memory now?19:41
dobeyuse the external devices tool19:41
dobeyerr, external drives19:42
banned_studiohow to show with adb commans?19:42
banned_studiocommand19:42
dobeythe same as on ubuntu19:42
dobeylike i said, ubuntu on the phone is ubuntu19:42
banned_studiodf ?19:43
dobeysure19:43
banned_studiodf do not show the sd-card19:44
Vercsudo system-image-cli --switch devel does not work :<19:46
Verci went to adb shell, typed above, and... nothing19:47
VercI need your help :)19:48
banned_studiois it possible, that ubuntu-touch can't handle ext4 formated sd-cards?19:48
dobeybanned_studio: it's possible it's not mounted19:50
dobeybanned_studio: df only shows mounted storage devices19:50
dobeybarry: ^^ can you help Verc? does --switch not work?19:50
adrian47Is possible to check with script what files were used by previous scripts? :)19:51
davmor2Verc: did it exit or did it, just sit there,  don't forget it will have 408MB of file to download19:51
adrian47in specified folder19:51
Vercafter typing the command the coursor blinks and then nothing19:53
Vercthe telephone does not reboot19:53
banned_studio@dobey, ok, how to "automount" ext4 formated sd-cards in ubuntu-touch?19:53
dobeybanned_studio: i have no idea why it isn't mounted, if it isn't mounted. like i said, use the external drives app on the phone. i don't have time to sit here and teach you all the basics of using ubuntu, building a chroot, etc… and i don't have a phone that has an sd card slot.19:55
banned_studiook, i understood ...19:56
Vercwhen I reboot it "manually" the version in system settings is still the same19:56
banned_studioi think some things need to be fixed in ubuntu-touch ...19:57
dobeybanned_studio: you need to not expect the phone to be the same as a PC. i think that's the problem. you're expecting a traditional ubuntu experience, and a phone is not that.20:00
banned_studio@dobey, please, help me isn20:01
banned_studio't it?20:01
banned_studioi really thought so20:02
dobeyno it is not the same20:02
dobeyit is a phone20:02
Vercsomething's wrong with system-image-cli because when I type system-image-cli --list-channels it does nothing20:03
banned_studiook, what about the "next gen", can it handle Ubuntu like a desktop, for exp. MHL od Miracast?20:04
davmor2banned_studio: there is the external drives app that is designed for formatting sd cards. the card is mounted under /media/phablet/*/* where the stars are the sdcard number if that helps but to be honest the tools are there on the phone20:04
banned_studiood=or20:04
dobeybanned_studio: i'm not sure what you're asking exactly. the converged experience is not done/ready yet. at some point it will be, but it will still be phone hardware when you plug it into an external screen/keyboard20:04
banned_studio@dobey, i am exactly asking for a device, that can do the same as my PC. Therfore i asked for MHL / Or Miracast20:06
dobeythe root partition will still be read-only then20:06
davmor2banned_studio: we need unity8 desktop in order to have that full converged experience, that is actiavely being worked on but until it is consumer grade there will be no way to use that20:06
kunalhii20:09
kunalis ubuntu touch available for oneplus one20:09
banned_studio@dobey, no way to use i do not understand. is there no way to "emulate" miracast?20:09
dobeykunal: mariogrip is working on a port to that device20:09
dobeybanned_studio: no20:10
kunalk...20:10
dobeyi don't know if he's got it booting yet though20:11
banned_studiowhat about this: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~dvdhrm/libwfd/commit/20:11
dobeywhat about it?20:11
dobeyit's some library20:11
banned_studiohe tried miracast20:11
dobeyok20:11
davmor2banned_studio: is there an app for it in the store?20:11
dobeywhen ubuntu supports the converged scenario where you can plug an external screen into the phone, then it might use that20:12
davmor2banned_studio: if not you can always write one, but for now I would suggest not20:12
dobeydavmor2: an app to use an ubuntu phone as a pc? no :)20:12
davmor2dobey: I meant the miracast things20:12
banned_studioi don't want an app, i want to use this right from the os20:12
dobeydavmor2: and i'd expect the security policy to be a problem for having an app in the store do that20:12
banned_studioisn't that possible?20:13
dobeybanned_studio: as we've already said many times, no20:13
DonkeyHoteiping ChickenCutlass rsalveti20:13
dobeythe converged UI scenario is not implemented yet20:14
banned_studiono means = you have to write an app ?20:14
dobeyno means no20:14
banned_studiocome on, everything is possible on linux ...20:14
dobeyno it isn't20:15
dobeybut if you want to help make it possible, i'm sure the mir/etc teams accept patches of acceptable quality20:15
banned_studiothat is also new for me, mir, i thought it is the x11 ..., bur it is not20:16
davmor2banned_studio: you couldn't get that to work with the security on the phone.  I was thinking of miro which is like a podcasty thing hence the app comment20:16
davmor2dobey: I was thinking miro not mira D'oh20:16
dobeydavmor2: yeah, miracast is an external screen thing20:17
triathIs there any image with Bluetooth working on Nexus 10?20:17
dobeyman, this adt-run session is going so slow20:17
davmor2triath: no20:17
dobeydavmor2: ^^ does bt work on your nexus 10? has it ever?20:17
ogra_has never20:18
dobeytriath: it doesn't work on nexus 5 either, if that makes you feel better :)20:18
ogra_might they use the same driver ? :)20:18
Vercdobey: if you'd have a while I'd like to ask your help becausa I cannot handle the switch myself20:18
triathwell :) Is it being worked on or is there any way I can help with it?20:19
dobeyVerc: i haven't used it. maybe it's broken. try adding "-vvvv" to the arguments to see if it logs an error or something20:19
ogra_triath, if you have patches you can send them ... i dont think anyone actively works on it20:19
Verctriath Are you talking to me?20:20
dobeyogra_: no idea what the issue is with bt on n5. i'd love to have it fixed though20:20
banned_studioone last question for today, when i type "mount" i get this: /dev/mmcblk0p7 on /var/lib/lxc/android/rootfs/20:20
triathVerc: no20:20
dobeyon the other hand, my battery already sucks enough without it (but it could still be on and sucking the battery even if the system doesn't work with it)20:20
dobeybanned_studio: ok20:21
banned_studiois ubuntu touche not "pure" ?20:21
dobeybanned_studio: hardware is not "pure"20:21
ogra_banned_studio, pure ?20:21
dobeybanned_studio: there's a minimal set of android services, and the android kernel, to provide device drivers and such, so hardware actually works20:21
banned_studiowhy ther is a lnx?20:21
dobeybanned_studio: if you want "pure" ubuntu, get a manufacturer to make a fully open phone20:21
banned_studiolnc20:21
ogra_banned_studio, ubuntu on phones has to use the binary drivers that are provided for the HW20:21
dobeybanned_studio: it's a chroot container to keep it separate form ubuntu20:22
dobeyfrom even20:22
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ogra_banned_studio, no way around that ... like jolla/sailfish and firefoxOS we have no choice for the modem, sensors, GPS or graphics drivers20:22
triathdobey: Would love to get my bt keyboard running. The effectivity Would outweight the battery drain20:22
banned_studioi do not understand that, all other linux-devices i use use pure linux20:23
ogra_banned_studio, how would you make a phone call without having a driver for the modem ?20:23
dobeybanned_studio: no they don't20:24
banned_studioso there is still no "pure" linux-phone?20:24
ChloeWolfieGirl_does ubuntu vivid have the ability to pause things such as music from the sound indicator?20:24
dobeybanned_studio: and i don't knkow what you mean by "pure" here either20:24
dobeybanned_studio: if you mean fully open, then no, there is no fully open phone20:25
geniiIf you think it's wrong, petition the chip manufacturers to open up the documentation so proper linux drivers can be made20:25
dobeybanned_studio: ubuntu is the most open though20:25
ogra_banned_studio, there cant be unless you convince the hardware vendors to either make their sppecs public or provide open drivers20:25
dobeyChloeWolfieGirl_: i don't think there's a pause feature in the indicator on the phone yet20:25
banned_studiothat was my last "linux-phone" http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_A78020:25
dobeyoh20:26
ogra_ChloeWolfieGirl_, not yet, i think tedg works on enabling that again (it was dropped for some reason)20:26
* dobey just realized who banned_studio is20:26
banned_studioyes, i remember, too many questions ...20:27
ogra_banned_studio, and that had a "pure" linux ?20:27
dobeyogra_: no of course it didn't20:27
ogra_right20:27
dobeyogra_: it was a java phone20:27
ogra_since thats technically not possible20:27
jgdxomg i want one20:27
davmor2ogra_: well except the  binary drivers :D20:27
ogra_well, it might be possible for tizen ... :)20:27
tedgogra_, No, that's waiting on tvoss actually.20:27
ogra_since samsung actually owns the HW they could prooduce proper linux drivers for it20:27
dobeyogra_: haha, yeah right :P20:27
dobeylike samsung would do that20:28
ogra_yeah, well ... there is that20:28
tedgogra_, Media hub turned off the feature.20:28
banned_studiobut without question you'll never get an answer ...20:28
ogra_banned_studio, https://developer.ubuntu.com/static/devportal_uploaded/136981fa-6287-49d3-9874-06f40b2e4eb7-cms_page_media/380/ubuntu_touch_architecture.png20:28
dobeybanned_studio: it's not too many questions. it's the same question over and over and over when you've been given the answers20:28
ogra_banned_studio, the blue box is the bunch of drivers and a few daemons that we need to drive the HW20:28
ChloeWolfieGirl_ogra_ Ok, I was just wondering because its quite annoying having to unlock the device to pause a podcast or some music20:29
ogra_ChloeWolfieGirl_, fully agreed :)20:29
davmor2ogra_: you're lying the blue box is the tardis you can't blag my head20:29
ogra_lol20:29
dobeyChloeWolfieGirl_: the annoying thing for me, is having to unlock to close the phone app after an incoming call when screen is locked20:29
tedgogra_, ChloeWolfieGirl_, bug 137804820:30
ubot5bug 1378048 in media-hub (Ubuntu RTM) "Make music controls work in the sound indicator" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137804820:30
banned_studio@dobey, no, i just asked how to get a terminal on ubuntu-touch and what is the passwort for the "bq"-phablet20:30
ogra_banned_studio, it is your password or PIN that you did set in the UI20:30
dobeybanned_studio: no, you've asked many times how to use the phone as a pc, and we told you many times that you cannot20:30
banned_studiono, that is not working20:30
ogra_banned_studio, soo did you manage to get ubuntu flashed then ?20:30
dobeyogra_: he bought a bq phone20:31
ogra_i saw somewhere there are instructions on the bq site now20:31
dobeyoh i guess he did flash it20:31
dobeyi forgot he was one who bought an android version20:31
davmor2dobey: he had the android phone if you remember :020:31
dobeyyeah i do now :P20:31
banned_studioi managed to flash the public version to my bq e4.520:31
dobeyi tried not to :P20:31
ogra_nice20:31
ogra_banned_studio, so if you did set a pin or password, this is what you need to use20:32
ogra_(in phablet-shell, or adb or the terminal app)20:32
Vercdobey It has returned something " File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/systemimage/download.py", line 296, in get_files     raise TimeoutError TimeoutError [systemimage] Feb 25 21:31:39 2015 (4294) state machine finished"20:33
ogra_(or when using sudo)20:33
banned_studiook, my mistake!!! it works20:33
dobeyVerc: are you trying to do it on 3g?20:33
dobeyor worse, 2g?20:33
ogra_popey, you are slacking !20:33
Vercon what?20:33
* ogra_ notes the channel topic ...20:33
dobeyVerc: what network connection are you using?20:34
dobeyVerc: is your phone connected to the network at all?20:34
Vercno20:34
mariogripwill ubuntu touch work with qcom display caf?20:34
dobeyVerc: well, then --switch on the phone won't work as it can't download the image :)20:34
=== ogra_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: | Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Installing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting guide (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bugs filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Nexus Status: http://bit.ly/18kIrhM | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | Changelog: http://bit.ly/1ljube1 | Next Flash sale Feb. 26th
VercI have thought that the desktop downloads the stupp20:35
ChloeWolfieGirl_dobey I havent got ubuntu on my phone so Idk what thats like20:35
Verc*stuff20:35
dobeyVerc: you'll need to connect it to wifi20:35
ogra_mariogrip, whats that ?20:35
VercI'm trying20:35
dobeyChloeWolfieGirl_: time to upgrade to ubuntu then! :)20:35
ogra_Verc, you can use ubuntu-device-flash from your desktop ... just make sure to not use the --wipe or --bootstrap options20:36
joshuabgIs ubuntu touch compatible with arm64?20:36
DonkeyHoteiogra_: what is a flash sale?20:36
mariogripogra_ it includes Adreno, it has better support for oneplus (don't ask me why)20:36
VercI'm trying20:36
ChloeWolfieGirl_dobey Haha I have ubuntu on my tablet20:36
ogra_joshuabg, theoretically yes ... practically we never tried (but all binaries are there for arm64 i think)20:36
joshuabgo, I was thinking of porting it to the NExus 920:37
joshuabgok20:37
ogra_DonkeyHotei, the thing where you can buy an ubuntu phone :)20:37
ogra_DonkeyHotei, https://twitter.com/bqreaders/status/57060035904081510420:37
DonkeyHoteibut there are no "ubuntu phones" with world radios20:37
dobeyogra_: well, apps that are clicks are probably lacking arm64 builds20:37
popeyDonkeyHotei: not yet20:38
ogra_yeah, apps likely do20:38
dobeyDonkeyHotei: you can buy a nexus 4 and flash it20:38
DonkeyHoteiso the flash sale is a europe-only thing?20:38
dobeyyes20:38
ogra_dobey, i think the webbrowser-app exists for arm64 though ... so at least webapps shuld work20:38
dobeyogra_: yeah, it's a .deb20:38
ogra_DonkeyHotei, well, wouldnt make much sense to sell it to americans if they can only use 2G20:39
dobeyand the webapps clicks should be 'all' arch20:39
dobeysome are incorrectly built with 'armhf' arch though i think20:39
DonkeyHoteidobey: the bq phone has more scopes than a flashed nexus 420:39
ogra_yes, it does20:39
dobeyyes20:39
dobeybut most of them are also euro-centric20:39
dobeyand i think all the non-euro-centric ones are in the store, except for the aggregators20:40
DonkeyHoteii see20:40
dobeyand hopefully we can get the rest into the store soon enough too20:42
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Vercdobey: even with wifi on it failed to switch20:50
banned_studiohow to install a terminal on ubuntu touch (bq)? please...20:51
dobeybanned_studio: it's in the store20:51
jwtiyarwhy i have this error while syncing? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10414728/20:51
banned_studiobut for the store i nee a one-account !!!20:51
banned_studioneed20:51
dobeyyes20:51
banned_studiowhy???20:51
dobeyyou need an ubuntu one account to install stuff from the store20:52
dobeybecause i said so, that's why20:52
banned_studioi am talking in the circle ...20:52
banned_studioso, ubuntu-touch is not ubuntu ... no anonymous anymore?20:54
popeybanned_studio: get the source, build a click and side-load it20:54
popeyhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/reboot20:54
popey^ source20:54
mhall119sil2100: any estimate on when mako will get an updated RTM image?20:54
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dobeybanned_studio: ffs, it is ubuntu, yes.20:55
mhall119banned_studio: having a U1 account let's us provide convenient things like not having to re-purchase apps if you wipe your phone or get a second device20:55
dobeyand so you can purchase apps20:56
mhall119that too :)20:56
popeyBUY BUY BUY!20:57
banned_studioi have no account, no facebook, no twitter, no g+ nor ubuntu one, i am just a "reader"...20:57
dobeyand there is no anonymity on the internet20:57
mhall119it also lets us give useful data to app developers, who care about users not just downloads20:57
mhall119banned_studio: then don't install apps, use the browser for everything, though if you have no accounts anywhere the internet isn't going to be terribly useful to you20:57
popeybet you have an account on the bq online store :)20:59
dobeyand your isp20:59
dobeyand your cellular provider20:59
dobeyand your utility company21:00
dobeyand ...21:00
silyeah, but thats kind of sad ;D21:00
banned_studio@mhall119, for me is just important, what a "smartPHONE" can do, and that means also offline, without a gsm, 3g or 4g connection. what about a sip-client?, yes again and again and again ...21:01
popeybanned_studio: different things are important to different people.21:01
mhall119banned_studio: it can do everything you'd think it can do without signing up for anybody's services21:02
popeybanned_studio: you could hack the ubuntu phone to not need an Ubuntu one account, the source is out there.21:02
silthats why i love ubuntu :)21:02
popeybanned_studio: But, the fact is, today, as it stands, you need an Ubuntu SSO account to download apps from the click store.21:02
silhas anybody managed to install ubuntu touch on the galaxy s4?21:03
popeyThat will not change any time soon, so I would recommend you get over it, or work around it, but don't bitch at us about it.21:03
popey!devices | sil21:03
ubot5sil: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices21:03
mhall119you need an Ubuntu SSO account to do just about anything in the Ubuntu community, there's no good reason to not have one21:03
popeymaybe, if it's on that list21:03
ChloeWolfieGirl_It would be nice if you could download free apps without needing an account but I never thought about that user vs download number thing21:03
dobeymhall119: "i don't want to be a part of a community"21:03
mhall119yes you do :)21:03
banned_studioI compared the "Ubuntu-Phone" with the Sailfish and Sailfish got the same problems ... so why there is no fix in the Ubuntu-Touch?21:03
popeymhall119: "I don't want dobey to be part of the community"21:04
mhall119banned_studio: fix to what?21:04
popey:)21:04
banned_studiosip21:04
popeyok, second chance21:04
mhall119popey: yes you do, that way you can ask him to do work for you :)21:04
dobeybanned_studio: because you're not a part of the community and helping to solve whatever problems you're whining about endlessly21:04
mhall119banned_studio: that's not broken, that's just a missing feature/app21:04
popeybanned_studio: because we haven't done it yet21:04
sil2100mhall119: I promoted it a few minutes ago ;)21:04
popeybanned_studio: if you keep asking the same thing over and over you're gonna get banned (again)21:04
sil2100mhall119: now generic_x86 is running21:04
sil2100o/21:04
mhall119sil2100: \o/21:04
mariogripOMG!!! I have a ubuntu running!!!!!! (on oneplus one)21:05
mariogrip!!!!!21:05
popey!21:05
sil!21:05
popeyPhotos or it didn't happen!21:05
popeyAlso, congratulations21:05
mhall119mariogrip: nice!21:05
DonkeyHoteimhall119: see /query21:05
banned_studio@popey, you told me abot the x.509 and gnupg "we have not done it" ...21:05
mhall119ChloeWolfieGirl_: ^^ did you see that?21:05
popeybanned_studio: that's right, same for sip, now drop it.21:05
banned_studioi understood, that ubuntu-touch is not ready to use, and i am still waiting .. !!!21:06
popeyfinal chance.21:06
dobeyk1l: ^^ banned_studio is subverting your ban :)21:06
popeyhe knows21:06
dobeypopey: nah, i'm done21:06
dobeyhe's had enough chances21:07
ChloeWolfieGirl_mhall119 mariogrip F-YES THATS AWESOME X321:07
popeyonly 3!?21:07
popeyChloeWolfieGirl_ is a hard taskmaster21:07
mhall119lol21:08
ChloeWolfieGirl_Omg xD21:08
banned_studiothe ban was fot too many question, and i do not think, questions are not good for the "project" ... questions need to be good for the project21:08
popeybanned_studio: not the same question repeated21:08
mhall119banned_studio: good questions are good for the project21:08
ogra_banned_studio, hwo about instead of waiting you start fixing ? ;)21:09
mhall119abusive questions (or repeatedly asking the same, answered ones) are bad for the project21:09
dobeyogra_: he can't do that, he'd need an ubuntu one account21:09
dobey"oh the humanity!!"21:09
mhall119towards others21:09
banned_studio@pope, i read "offline", but i/we are still waitings fir abswers21:09
ogra_dobey, i'd review patches from banned_studio even if he doesnt have an U1 account ;)21:10
ogra_he just needs to sit down and develop them ... so he has something to do beyond impatiently complaining all day21:10
dobeyogra_: you need a u1 account to sign the CLA, and to push branches and make MPs21:10
mariogriphttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/IMG_20150225_220713.jpg21:11
popeybanned_studio: I gave you answers, you just don't like them.21:11
ogra_oh, i forgot about that21:11
mariogripProof!21:11
popeymariogrip:  Nice one!21:11
dobeymariogrip: nice21:11
ogra_mariogrip, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!21:11
* ogra_ dances a little 21:11
popeyFunny what happens when you have a porting guide21:11
banned_studioso, still now no ext4 automount on Ubuntu-Touch, don't you think it should be fixed?21:11
ogra_yeah :)21:11
OerHeksthat would be good news, one+one21:11
popeybanned_studio: have you filed a bug?21:11
mhall119mariogrip: did yo uuse the new porting guide to do this?21:12
dobeybanned_studio: determine what the actual problem is and file a bug21:12
dobeyoh wait, you need an account to file a bug21:12
ogra_banned_studio, no, it is on purpose that we only auto mount vfat currenly21:12
mhall119banned_studio: dude, it's a phone, it works21:12
g105bWhat time does the sale start?21:12
mhall119g105b: probably 9am CET21:12
ogra_g105b, european business hours ...21:12
mhall119which is 8am GMT, I believe21:12
popeyBusiness Time!21:12
ogra_last one was 9CET21:12
popeyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqZcYPEszN821:13
silabout what port guide do you guys talk right now? :D21:13
mariogripmhall119, Yeah, but ogra_ have helped me a lot too :)21:13
mariogripThanks ogra_21:13
dobeypopey: needs a Pebble Time remix21:13
g105bmhall119: breakfast time for me then21:13
mhall119ogra_: is pretty awesome isn't he?21:13
ogra_well, i only answered nicely asked detailed questions21:13
banned_studioi can report a bug here in the chat, what your are doing with the bug-report is your problem21:13
ogra_:)21:13
popeyok, done21:13
ogra_banned_studio, thats not a bug report then21:13
dobeyyay21:13
ogra_sigh21:14
popeywe have better things to do than argue with this person.21:14
mariogripmhall119 He is awesome! :)21:14
silmariogrip : which porting guide do you mean? can you send me the link?:)21:14
* popey hugs ogra_ !21:14
ogra_sil, its in the topic21:14
* ogra_ hands popey a beer21:14
ChloeWolfieGirl_mariogrip Amazing x3 *screams internally*21:14
dobeymmm beer21:14
* dobey only has one left :-/21:15
* ogra_ hands dobey a scotch ... 21:15
dobeyone. beer. only.21:15
dobeymmm scotch :D21:15
ogra_:)21:15
silthanks ogra_ :D21:15
mariogripfor the moats part i used the old porting because the new one  wasn't out yet when i started21:15
mhall119darn, still no volume-bubble fix for screenshots?21:16
adrian47I reduced boot.img from 6.7MB to 5.1MB by moving some lib files to other partition, but what now? i need 4.1MB :)21:16
ogra_/nick mhall119 banned_mhall11921:16
* mhall119 retracts statements about ogra_'s awesomeness21:17
ogra_LOL21:17
* ChloeWolfieGirl_ drools over picture of OPO running ubuntu 21:17
Vercfor 20 minutes I have got this message: "[systemimage] Feb 25 21:53:37 2015 (5433) [0xb5e7f390] Running group download reactor" but on gnome-system-monitor the network history shows that nothing is being downloaded :/21:17
DonkeyHoteiwhat's OPO?21:17
mhall119ChloeWolfieGirl_: don't water damage it, it's the only one we have so far!21:17
ChloeWolfieGirl_OnePlus One21:17
* mariogrip is uploading some more pictures with a better camera now!21:17
ChloeWolfieGirl_mhall119 haha xD21:18
DonkeyHoteiwhat's a OnePlus One?21:18
mhall119DonkeyHotei: a phone21:18
mhall119OnePlus is the company, the One is their first phone21:18
mhall119creative, aren't they21:18
popeyDonkeyHotei: it's quite a fancy phone21:18
ChloeWolfieGirl_mariogrip is uploading phones of it running ubuntu21:18
DonkeyHoteiis it for the US market?21:18
ogra_DonkeyHotei, its a small tablet they call a phone :)21:18
ogra_DonkeyHotei, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/IMG_20150225_220713.jpg21:18
popeymariogrip: you should totally tell the world about this and take the credit21:18
popeyhaha21:18
ogra_++21:18
ogra_mariogrip, blog it or some such an it will be all over G+ tomorrow :)21:19
mhall119ogra_: it's no worse in size than a Nexus 6 is it? Certainly better than Sony's 25 inch phone21:19
mariogripxP21:19
popeyi like the back cover of it.21:19
ogra_donno, never touched an N621:19
popeynot frictionless like the nexus 421:19
ogra_i have an unused N5 here ... thats about as big as phones get for me21:20
mhall119s/frictionless/fragile-as-hell-glass/21:20
popeyheh21:20
ogra_glass brick21:20
mhall119the N5 is good sized, not physically much different from the N421:20
ogra_yep21:20
* mariogrip has the worst upload speed! 3min for 3 pictures...21:21
ogra_did you consider that couold be caused by the picture size perhaps ?21:21
ogra_:)21:21
popeyyeah, take them at 320x200 and really blurry21:22
popeythen people will argue online that they're fake21:22
popeyand you can sit back and laugh knowing they're real21:22
ogra_lol21:22
mariogrip:P21:22
dobeyVerc: how would gnome-system-monitor tell you what the phone is doing?21:22
mariogrip28 KB/s...21:22
VercI'm a genius o_O21:23
mariogripI have faster, but for some reason dropbox is slow21:23
mariogripMaybe i will try to apply to the job: https://ldd.tbe.taleo.net/ldd01/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=950 what do you say ogra_ should i?21:25
ogra_sure, asking is free :)21:25
mariogrip:)21:25
ogra_we dont charge for it (yet) :)21:26
mariogrip"yet" hehe :P21:26
ogra_;)21:26
ogra_annyway ...21:26
* ogra_ wanders off into the night ...21:26
popeyo/21:26
dobeyogra_: if that guy comes back, i'm going to start charging21:27
* ogra_ &21:27
mariogripo/21:27
dobeynight ogra_21:27
ChloeWolfieGirl_Night night ogra_21:27
mariogripRobbyf2 Sup?21:27
Robbyf2hey21:27
Robbyf2get my hangouts msg?21:27
Robbyf2you get it going?21:27
DonkeyHoteimariogrip: you're my competition, i guess21:28
Robbyf2popey said he saw something21:28
mariogripI have something to tell you :)21:28
popey\o/21:28
* dobey writes an app to test in-app purchases by requiring people who ask questions to purchase credits21:28
mariogriphttps://www.dropbox.com/s/qbft7g23wkea1tk/20150225_221827.jpg?dl=021:28
Robbyf2love you man!21:29
mariogrip:)21:29
Robbyf2radios?21:29
mariogripI haven't tested,21:30
mariogripwifi no, camera no21:30
Robbyf2minor compared to what you've been doing21:30
Robbyf2you should make your own tree's21:31
mariogripOh man! have i done some hardcore c++ coding :)21:31
popey:)21:31
popeyWhat a good day. mariogrip getting Ubuntu Touch on OnePlus One, and flexiondotorg has Ubuntu MATE Remix PowerPC running on an iBook G4 :)21:32
popeyopposite ends of the scale21:32
mariogripI had do do some changes to qcom display21:32
mariogrippopey :)21:32
ChloeWolfieGirl_I think its fake because the year isn't 1970 sooo... haha xD x321:32
popeyno, that makes it even more accurate21:33
popeya faker would put the date right21:33
mariogripxD21:33
ChloeWolfieGirl_DOES THAT MEAN ALL THE BQ PHONES ARE FAKE? xD21:33
popeyOMG!21:33
mariogripYes21:33
DonkeyHoteii held the bq phone in my hand and it was real, mhall119 was there21:34
k1ldobey: yes i saw him evading the ban, but i did hope he would have changed his agressive, annoying and demanding behaviour that lead to the ban in the first place. sadly he didnt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯21:34
Tassadaryeah, they have just gallery app open, showing screenshots of Ubuntu and they waited a while so the status bar hid itself21:34
mhall119DonkeyHotei: oh? were you at SCaLE?21:34
dobeyk1l: yeah, i only pinged you when i decided he wasn't going to :)21:34
DonkeyHoteimhall119: i was at scale 6, 7, 8, 9, and 1321:35
mhall119nice!21:36
DonkeyHoteimhall119: see /query21:36
mhall119I was at 7 & 8, then not again until 1321:36
DonkeyHoteiyes, i met you at 7 & 821:36
Robbyf2mariogrip: what made display work? caf sources?21:37
cwaynemariogrip: pretty sure you're my hero now.21:37
mhall119you did? Sorry man, my memory is awful21:37
DonkeyHoteii think it was 8 when you warned me not to eat all the Perky Jerky at once21:37
ChloeWolfieGirl_cwayne mariogrip  is my hero too x321:37
mhall119either that or I do remember you, but not your nick21:37
DonkeyHoteii used to use the nick sn921:38
mariogripRobbyf2 caf does not work, and ubuntu is based around caf (cm)21:38
mhall119Perky Jerky? was that the caffinated slim jims?21:38
DonkeyHoteiyep21:38
mhall119hmmm, sn9 rings a bell21:38
* mariogrip feels special, I get so much nice feedback :)21:38
mhall119were you the one who had a friend in Florida that you introduced to our loco?21:38
mhall119mariogrip: nice feedback is the consequence of doing nice things :)21:38
cwaynemariogrip: which rootfs are you using?21:39
DonkeyHoteiyep, i keep in touch with her by phone21:39
mhall119DonkeyHotei: ah ha! I *do* remember! :)21:39
mhall119this is kind of a big deal for me21:39
mhall119how is she doing? I haven't spoken with her in years21:39
mariogripcwayne: using my own :) (vivid)21:39
cwaynemariogrip: phew, I was worried it was like saucy or something really old :P21:40
DonkeyHoteishe has a job that keeps her a bit busy and typically during the hours she has available to use her phone :(21:40
mariogripcwayne: Always you the new stuff :)21:40
mariogripbrb21:43
adrian47is possible to mount partition in 2 places? 1st with ro, 2nd rw21:49
DonkeyHoteipossible but ill-advised21:49
mariogripi'm back!21:52
ChloeWolfieGirl_Welcome back21:53
dobeyadrian47: you can mount it rw, and then loopback/bind mount it as ro elsewhere. but you can't loopback/bind mount a ro partition as rw21:54
dobey(for obvioius reasons)21:54
VercThe Epic Story Of Switching To Devel On Mako vol 124384720894762829:21:56
Verc"AssertionError: Missing destination files: ['/var/lib/system-image/keyring.tar.xz', '/var/lib/system-image/keyring.tar.xz.asc']"21:56
Vercand LOTS of other stuff21:56
dobeyVerc: well if you have devel mode enabled, you can switch with ubuntu-device-flash. but don't use --wipe or --bootstrap21:59
VercOk. My curiosity takes over my data. I'll flash it22:00
dobeyjust avoid --wipe and --bootstrap and your data should be fine22:01
adrian47when i unpacked boot.img in bin folder i see many files that has 1.1MB, it is real?22:15
adrian47have*22:17
adrian47i want copy they into internal memory, and they take about 100MB22:17
=== salem_ is now known as _salem
ChloeWolfieGirl_IDK if theres a bug already, but I was wondering where I'd post a bug about when choosing a picture for contacts, if you select an image, it selects the image as is and it doesn't give you an option to crop it to the face22:53
=== _salem is now known as salem_
dobeyChloeWolfieGirl_: content-hub i guess22:55
dobeyor gallery-app/camera-app more likely22:56
=== salem_ is now known as _salem
mandelrobru, can you remind me, if possible, how to add the package number to a symbols file? there was a regexp that was later substituted22:58
robrumandel: yeah, put 0replaceme as the version number and the train will mangle that into the version it's building.22:59
robrumandel: also works in any other files under debian/ dir22:59
mandelrobru, awesome, thx22:59
robrumandel: you're welcome22:59
ChloeWolfieGirl_dobey I was thinking gallery-app was most likely :P23:00
Vercafter the entire day I've got 15.04 <323:43
Vercthanks!23:43
Elleomandel: retested that MR, still giving problems I'm afraid23:45
Elleomandel: looks like the helper doesn't report the size correctly23:45
Elleomandel: have added a comment to the MR23:45
mandelElleo, really.. weird, unzip -Zh should work.. do you have the logs?23:45
Elleomandel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10417307/23:46
mandelElleo, thx23:46
mandelElleo, hmm start /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ubuntu-download-manager/udm-extractor--unzip --path /home/phablet/.cache/com.ubuntu.music/HubIncoming/2/Anais Mitchell - Xoa.zip --size323:47
Elleomandel: two downloads there, the first one succeeds (but probably shouldn't have, since it only left enough space after having deleted the original zip which I don't think your code accounts for), the second one runs out of space while unpacking so ends up with the log being truncated23:47
mandelElleo, I wonder what is that 3 at the end :-/23:47
Elleomandel: that's the output of the command23:48
Elleomandel: I already tried running it and it just gives "3" as its output23:48
mandelElleo, I'm stupid then, there is a 3 missing, thx ;)23:48
mandelElleo, so that is clearly an issue with unzip in there.. gosh it that is the case I'm going to hate my life, on the desktopm amd64 works23:48
mandelElleo, thx for the feedback, you can go on holidays :)23:49
Elleo:/23:49
Elleoheh, no problem23:49
Elleomandel: are you setting the locale before calling unzip -Zh? I've just tried running it and I see its output is human readable in the form "Zip file size: 25113 bytes" if that has a different number of words in spanish for example it might be parsing the output differently23:52
RobbyFmariogrip, ok, I'm back anything i can help with23:53
mandelElleo, like 526 in the diff =>  QRegExp rx("(\\d+)");23:54
mandelElleo, and then I grab the first match, which should be the number :)23:54
mandelno locale to deal with23:54
mandelI sometimes do smart things with regular expressions hehehe23:54
Elleomandel: ah, okay :)23:55
mariogripRobbyF wanna test it out?23:55
RobbyFtempted too :)23:56
mariogripI can see if i get multirom working on it23:56
mariogripwith it**23:56
RobbyFI've done a full back up anyhow.23:57
RobbyFI won't use multirom23:57
mariogripOkey23:57
RobbyFalthough i should consider it23:57
mariogrip:)23:57
mariogripHere is boot.img: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9591617793453440223:58
mariogripWaiting for system.img to upload23:58
mariogripdo you have vivid downloaded? (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/vivid-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz)23:59

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