| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| ChloeWolfieGirl | just ctrl+q firefox by accident, what is life? | 01:07 |
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| diddledan | oh boy that was fun | 01:22 |
| === stryx`_ is now known as stryx` | ||
| diddledan | WHEEEEE | 01:39 |
| diddledan | ok, who's fiddling with the cables?! | 01:42 |
| diddledan | no **** sherlock | 02:13 |
| diddledan | how to state the obvious, by evilmquin | 02:14 |
| diddledan | :-p | 02:14 |
| diddledan | I guess it's nice to acknowledge it | 02:15 |
| m0nkey_ | boom, and now we have ubuntu installable from pxeboot | 02:16 |
| m0nkey_ | heh, that's cool. booted ubuntu live over the network. no more USB media for me! :-D | 02:16 |
| diddledan | m0nkey_, \o/ | 02:17 |
| diddledan | m0nkey_, freenas hosting the tftp? | 02:17 |
| m0nkey_ | yup | 02:17 |
| m0nkey_ | also nfs | 02:17 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 02:17 |
| m0nkey_ | have centos installable from it too | 02:17 |
| m0nkey_ | also got clonezilla and memtest86+ | 02:19 |
| m0nkey_ | considering dban, but that will just rip apart any drive it sees | 02:19 |
| mapps | hi alll | 05:17 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 09:03 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:14 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:18 |
| awilkins | Oh joy, another software release from people who do not grok SSL | 09:30 |
| awilkins | http://www.ghacks.net/2015/02/23/privdog-is-superfish-all-over-again/ | 09:30 |
| directhex | awilkins: that's the one from a major CA, no? | 09:36 |
| awilkins | I wonder if the WebSense thing does that too... yes, it's from Comodo | 09:36 |
| awilkins | THey had WebSense at my last place | 09:37 |
| awilkins | Snooped all SSL in a similar way, replacing certs | 09:37 |
| awilkins | With self-signed ones! Firefox complained | 09:38 |
| awilkins | It's just stupid really, training users to bypass security warnings | 09:38 |
| directhex | http://privdog.com/advisory.html | 09:40 |
| awilkins | At least that's the right way to handle it | 09:45 |
| === MooDoo is now known as Guest46641 | ||
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Inconvenience Yourself Day! :-D | 09:58 |
| bashrc | how inconvenient | 09:59 |
| === Guest46641 is now known as MooDoo | ||
| MooDoo | morning | 10:00 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| NET||abuse | hey guys. anyone gone through 14.04 desktop upgrading to kernel 3.16.x? | 10:27 |
| NET||abuse | is it worth it? | 10:27 |
| NET||abuse | any major teething issues? Package support issues? | 10:28 |
| NET||abuse | especially the bumblebee type setups. | 10:28 |
| NET||abuse | quiet today, anyone in? :) | 10:40 |
| MooDoo | no i'm not here | 10:40 |
| NET||abuse | spooky! :) | 10:41 |
| bashrc | me neither | 10:41 |
| NET||abuse | so has anyone gone through installing linux-image-generic-lts-utopic on an existing 14.04 box? | 10:41 |
| popey | i have only one 14.04 box | 10:43 |
| popey | I should probably install that | 10:44 |
| JamesTait | NET||abuse, yes, several. I've noticed precisely zero difference. :) | 10:44 |
| JamesTait | Which is as it should be, I suppose. | 10:44 |
| NET||abuse | hehe, "Shuffling Zombie Juror" | 10:44 |
| NET||abuse | 80 changes and fixes to Btrfs filesystem | 10:45 |
| NET||abuse | that wins it for me. | 10:45 |
| popey | yeah | 10:45 |
| popey | thats why I'm doing it | 10:45 |
| popey | my server is on 3.13 | 10:45 |
| NET||abuse | my home server is on 14.10 | 10:45 |
| NET||abuse | and already on 3.16 | 10:46 |
| NET||abuse | that's where my primary btrfs is. but.. | 10:46 |
| NET||abuse | my main work lappy is 14.04 | 10:46 |
| NET||abuse | and it's still on ext4 | 10:47 |
| awilkins | Not really been tempted to use btrfs on my workstations yet | 10:51 |
| popey | i used it on my laptop for a while, but then switched back to ext4 | 11:01 |
| awilkins | Possibly a mistake to chose a file system name that can be mistyped as "barfs" with jus tone error | 11:05 |
| NET||abuse | oh god guys, emergency convert dilema | 11:07 |
| NET||abuse | I convinced our scrum master to install 14.10 on his laptop yesterday, he's now experience some pretty aweful graphics performance, seems to be an open bug on this issue | 11:08 |
| NET||abuse | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1386721 | 11:09 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 1386721 in Ubuntu GNOME "Graphics Slow After Upgrade 14.04 - 14.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:09 |
| NET||abuse | anyone else run into this? | 11:09 |
| NET||abuse | I have to fix this as i dont want my first convert in this office to fail . | 11:09 |
| awilkins | Is it Ubuntu GNOME you installed? | 11:13 |
| NET||abuse | no | 11:13 |
| NET||abuse | unity | 11:13 |
| NET||abuse | base install, no custom ppa's or anything | 11:13 |
| NET||abuse | he's using an xps 15, so you know, optimus.. but intel is the default driver | 11:13 |
| NET||abuse | so his intel performance is the issue here. | 11:13 |
| awilkins | Hmm | 11:14 |
| NET||abuse | he's not setup any bumblebee stuff himself, unless there's something in 14.10 by default for optimus? | 11:14 |
| awilkins | I think in 14.10 if you visit the "additional drivers" tool there will be an option for you | 11:14 |
| NET||abuse | he enabled the additional drivers for nvidia from the standard software & sources stuff, but they're not really used by default as far as i can tell | 11:14 |
| awilkins | Stick the output of lsmod on a pastebin somewhere | 11:15 |
| NET||abuse | since it's optimus, intel and nvidia are there, but there's not an option in the bios to suppress the nvidia card, | 11:15 |
| NET||abuse | ok, one sec. | 11:15 |
| NET||abuse | here iit is | 11:16 |
| NET||abuse | http://dpaste.com/3WXP65E | 11:16 |
| awilkins | So definitely running on the Intel chip and not the nvisia | 11:17 |
| NET||abuse | yep | 11:17 |
| NET||abuse | same as my own laptop | 11:17 |
| awilkins | Oh, hold on | 11:17 |
| NET||abuse | i've 14.04 on the same hardware | 11:17 |
| awilkins | nvidia too | 11:18 |
| NET||abuse | oh, both drm are loaded. | 11:18 |
| NET||abuse | you think that's an issue? | 11:18 |
| awilkins | Dunno | 11:18 |
| awilkins | You could try blacklisting the nvidia module | 11:18 |
| NET||abuse | how do you find out what's driving the current render context? | 11:18 |
| NET||abuse | huh,, aparently that's what bumblebee does, (at least as far back as 2012, | 11:19 |
| awilkins | Have you tried installing bumblebee | 11:19 |
| NET||abuse | nope | 11:19 |
| NET||abuse | is it available in 14.10 default repo's? | 11:19 |
| awilkins | Apparently | 11:20 |
| awilkins | Yup, in universe | 11:21 |
| awilkins | (and for Trusty too) | 11:21 |
| NET||abuse | just had him install that and reboot (with added nvidia support) and it now seems to have fixed the issue. | 11:25 |
| NET||abuse | gonna post this experience on that bug | 11:25 |
| NET||abuse | some one else said they had bumble bee installed and still experienced issues.. i'll have to monitor the situation. | 11:36 |
| NET||abuse | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1386721/comments/30 | 11:36 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 1386721 in Ubuntu GNOME "Graphics Slow After Upgrade 14.04 - 14.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:36 |
| bugfix | buongiorno, come faccio a settare la scheda audio cmi8738 di default su ubuntu 14.04 | 13:11 |
| bugfix | sorry my mystake | 13:12 |
| knightwise | hey bugfix | 13:16 |
| bugfix | GM, knightwise | 13:19 |
| diddledan | evening | 13:25 |
| SuperMatt | not quite | 13:32 |
| diddledan | so much hate in bug #1268257 | 13:33 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1268257 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates (Ubuntu) "nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1268257 | 13:33 |
| diddledan | nobody is actually commenting with anything useful just with hatred saying "I'm gonna go debian, so poo on you!" | 13:34 |
| awilkins | It's a wee bit annoying | 13:35 |
| awilkins | But fixable with a 1 line workaround... | 13:35 |
| awilkins | (each time it occurs) | 13:35 |
| awilkins | They should just write that into the bug description TBH | 13:36 |
| awilkins | Hmm, I can edit it | 13:36 |
| awilkins | Dunno if I can save the edit | 13:37 |
| === AlanBell_ is now known as AlanBell | ||
| * Laney calls double glazing companies to get quotes | 14:33 | |
| Laney | no moar cold office | 14:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | they sign Laney up for triple glazing companies cold calling lists... | 14:34 |
| Laney | oh noes | 14:34 |
| knightwise | hmm... need to figure out hibernate on this Surface pro1 | 15:01 |
| knightwise | rebooting is a little bit of a drag | 15:02 |
| davmor2 | Laney: but cold coffee is the only way to drink it, 1: you're a coder so forget about it, 2: you work for Canonical so get pulled into meetings and forget about it, 3: you work at Canonical so get pulled into coding debates and forget it, 4: Buy a thermal Mug end of cold coffee :P | 15:06 |
| awilkins | Or just roll with it and make frappes | 15:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | get a usb heated mug... http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0016LE4HM?*Version*=1&*entries*=0 | 15:11 |
| awilkins | really? What kind of thermal output can you get out of 500ma at 5V? And is it good for your motherboard? | 15:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | wouldn't take much heat to really slow down your coffee going cold | 15:14 |
| intrbiz | USB 3, 2A @ 5V would be 20W, which would take about a minute to raise 250ml of water by 1 degree Kelvin based on my back of an envelope maths | 15:14 |
| awilkins | Yeah, but you also have to take into account the heat radiated from the cup and the surface of the coffee | 15:15 |
| intrbiz | awilkins: sure, would need good insulation | 15:15 |
| awilkins | I suppose that one is insulated and also has a lid | 15:16 |
| awilkins | Is it actually a USB mug? | 15:16 |
| awilkins | Or is that a USB form factor 12V connector - says it's a 12V mug | 15:16 |
| awilkins | It's probably Naughty to run 12V through a USB plug | 15:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | there are usb variants these days i've seen, that one just showed up on quick search | 15:17 |
| * zmoylan-pi remembers seeing a cpm computer that had 240v running through part of the motherboard after it was modified by engineer instead of the usual 12v | 15:18 | |
| intrbiz | USB sockets seem to be rated for 30V | 15:18 |
| intrbiz | USB 3,1 is going to allow upto 100W of power | 15:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | will have to make a cover to prevent babies sticking wet fingers in usb sockets... | 15:21 |
| ali1234 | that's 20A... | 15:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | s/babies/eejits/ | 15:21 |
| popey | thems some fat cables | 15:21 |
| intrbiz | IIRC USB 3.1 neogates the voltages to reduce the current required | 15:22 |
| diddledan | err, neogates? | 15:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | close enough | 15:22 |
| intrbiz | diddledan: however you spell it | 15:23 |
| intrbiz | USB 3.1 can go upto 20V @ 5A | 15:24 |
| diddledan | intrbiz, I'm not sure what you mean so can't work out how it should be spelt :-p | 15:24 |
| moreati | USB 3.1 negotiates higher voltages/currents, before it delivers that power through the cable. Unless the infant can talk USB they'll get the default 5V/100 - 500 mA | 15:25 |
| intrbiz | diddledan: negotiates is what I mean :P | 15:25 |
| diddledan | aha | 15:25 |
| diddledan | moreati, kids are quite clever these days | 15:26 |
| diddledan | moreati, I used to be able to speak modem :-p | 15:26 |
| davmor2 | popey: uu 58 is getting harder now, and mvm level 8 I'm pretty sure is impossible ;) | 16:35 |
| davmor2 | level 8 on hard that is | 16:36 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| leviathaan | is it possible to open an ost file under ubuntu? | 18:16 |
| knightwise | ost ... | 18:19 |
| knightwise | what kind of file is that ? | 18:19 |
| awilkins | Outlook store | 18:20 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| mapps | hi all | 22:22 |
| mapps | ;] | 22:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | \o | 22:26 |
| shauno | o/ | 22:33 |
| shauno | (that snowden docu is on 4 in a wee while (2305) if anyone's still feeling nerdy) | 22:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | i watched it yesterday, it's excellent | 22:47 |
| m0nkey_ | i'm kinda hoping that the docu is libre | 22:49 |
| diddledan | shauno, citizenfour? | 22:50 |
| shauno | yeah | 22:50 |
| diddledan | custard causes obesity? | 22:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | how many litres per day do you need to consume? :-) | 23:16 |
| diddledan | I'm not sure there's a custard RDA | 23:19 |
| shauno | there should be | 23:20 |
| shauno | but then, caffeine has an OD limit and it's all lies (we tried) | 23:21 |
| daftykins | hi gents | 23:21 |
| diddledan | lol | 23:22 |
| diddledan | allo daftykins | 23:22 |
| * daftykins is back from an 11hr funeral | 23:22 | |
| daftykins | or rather there may've been a few pints afterward... | 23:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | but when you've drank enough coffee doesn't the phasing ability it gives you prevent you from drinking any more? :-) | 23:32 |
| diddledan | yeah the bmw mini is twice the size of the original mini | 23:37 |
| diddledan | mini in name only | 23:37 |
| diddledan | the bmw mini is actually bigger than some other cars | 23:37 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| diddledan | and ffs @ the proliferation of those gambling adverts | 23:38 |
| daftykins | it's all mapps fault | 23:38 |
| daftykins | :D | 23:38 |
| diddledan | teehee | 23:38 |
| diddledan | I swear they're all the same group just tax-broken separate company names | 23:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | their passangers are getting larger... | 23:39 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi, it's all the custard | 23:39 |
| shauno | the germini isn't a mini, it's a MINI. | 23:39 |
| daftykins | i am the passenger ~ | 23:40 |
| shauno | I ride, and I ride | 23:41 |
| daftykins | suddenly i want to play that | 23:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | the smart car is smaller than original mini even if it only seats 2 | 23:42 |
| daftykins | ooh it is Iggy Pop | 23:44 |
| shauno | the original mini is a tardis | 23:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | my grandad used to take pigs to market in a mini | 23:48 |
| shauno | you sure you're a dub? sounds more like waterford | 23:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | he lived in kildare | 23:49 |
| daftykins | i'd dare 'im to kil a pig whilst driving said mini | 23:50 |
| shauno | seriously though, the original mini is one of the bigger cars I've been in | 23:52 |
| shauno | I mean, it's no land rover | 23:52 |
| funkyHat | I drove the new mini clubman the other day. That's even *less* mini | 23:54 |
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