=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [01:07] just ctrl+q firefox by accident, what is life? [01:22] oh boy that was fun === stryx`_ is now known as stryx` [01:39] WHEEEEE [01:42] ok, who's fiddling with the cables?! [02:13] no **** sherlock [02:14] how to state the obvious, by evilmquin [02:14] :-p [02:15] I guess it's nice to acknowledge it [02:16] boom, and now we have ubuntu installable from pxeboot [02:16] heh, that's cool. booted ubuntu live over the network. no more USB media for me! :-D [02:17] m0nkey_, \o/ [02:17] m0nkey_, freenas hosting the tftp? [02:17] yup [02:17] also nfs [02:17] \o/ [02:17] have centos installable from it too [02:19] also got clonezilla and memtest86+ [02:19] considering dban, but that will just rip apart any drive it sees [05:17] hi alll === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [09:03] morning all [09:14] Morning all [09:18] morning boys and girls. [09:30] Oh joy, another software release from people who do not grok SSL [09:30] http://www.ghacks.net/2015/02/23/privdog-is-superfish-all-over-again/ [09:36] awilkins: that's the one from a major CA, no? [09:36] I wonder if the WebSense thing does that too... yes, it's from Comodo [09:37] THey had WebSense at my last place [09:37] Snooped all SSL in a similar way, replacing certs [09:38] With self-signed ones! Firefox complained [09:38] It's just stupid really, training users to bypass security warnings [09:40] http://privdog.com/advisory.html [09:45] At least that's the right way to handle it === MooDoo is now known as Guest46641 [09:58] Good morning all; happy Inconvenience Yourself Day! :-D [09:59] how inconvenient === Guest46641 is now known as MooDoo [10:00] morning === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:27] hey guys. anyone gone through 14.04 desktop upgrading to kernel 3.16.x? [10:27] is it worth it? [10:28] any major teething issues? Package support issues? [10:28] especially the bumblebee type setups. [10:40] quiet today, anyone in? :) [10:40] no i'm not here [10:41] spooky! :) [10:41] me neither [10:41] so has anyone gone through installing linux-image-generic-lts-utopic on an existing 14.04 box? [10:43] i have only one 14.04 box [10:44] I should probably install that [10:44] NET||abuse, yes, several. I've noticed precisely zero difference. :) [10:44] Which is as it should be, I suppose. [10:44] hehe, "Shuffling Zombie Juror" [10:45] 80 changes and fixes to Btrfs filesystem [10:45] that wins it for me. [10:45] yeah [10:45] thats why I'm doing it [10:45] my server is on 3.13 [10:45] my home server is on 14.10 [10:46] and already on 3.16 [10:46] that's where my primary btrfs is. but.. [10:46] my main work lappy is 14.04 [10:47] and it's still on ext4 [10:51] Not really been tempted to use btrfs on my workstations yet [11:01] i used it on my laptop for a while, but then switched back to ext4 [11:05] Possibly a mistake to chose a file system name that can be mistyped as "barfs" with jus tone error [11:07] oh god guys, emergency convert dilema [11:08] I convinced our scrum master to install 14.10 on his laptop yesterday, he's now experience some pretty aweful graphics performance, seems to be an open bug on this issue [11:09] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1386721 [11:09] Launchpad bug 1386721 in Ubuntu GNOME "Graphics Slow After Upgrade 14.04 - 14.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:09] anyone else run into this? [11:09] I have to fix this as i dont want my first convert in this office to fail . [11:13] Is it Ubuntu GNOME you installed? [11:13] no [11:13] unity [11:13] base install, no custom ppa's or anything [11:13] he's using an xps 15, so you know, optimus.. but intel is the default driver [11:13] so his intel performance is the issue here. [11:14] Hmm [11:14] he's not setup any bumblebee stuff himself, unless there's something in 14.10 by default for optimus? [11:14] I think in 14.10 if you visit the "additional drivers" tool there will be an option for you [11:14] he enabled the additional drivers for nvidia from the standard software & sources stuff, but they're not really used by default as far as i can tell [11:15] Stick the output of lsmod on a pastebin somewhere [11:15] since it's optimus, intel and nvidia are there, but there's not an option in the bios to suppress the nvidia card, [11:15] ok, one sec. [11:16] here iit is [11:16] http://dpaste.com/3WXP65E [11:17] So definitely running on the Intel chip and not the nvisia [11:17] yep [11:17] same as my own laptop [11:17] Oh, hold on [11:17] i've 14.04 on the same hardware [11:18] nvidia too [11:18] oh, both drm are loaded. [11:18] you think that's an issue? [11:18] Dunno [11:18] You could try blacklisting the nvidia module [11:18] how do you find out what's driving the current render context? [11:19] huh,, aparently that's what bumblebee does, (at least as far back as 2012, [11:19] Have you tried installing bumblebee [11:19] nope [11:19] is it available in 14.10 default repo's? [11:20] Apparently [11:21] Yup, in universe [11:21] (and for Trusty too) [11:25] just had him install that and reboot (with added nvidia support) and it now seems to have fixed the issue. [11:25] gonna post this experience on that bug [11:36] some one else said they had bumble bee installed and still experienced issues.. i'll have to monitor the situation. [11:36] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1386721/comments/30 [11:36] Launchpad bug 1386721 in Ubuntu GNOME "Graphics Slow After Upgrade 14.04 - 14.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:11] buongiorno, come faccio a settare la scheda audio cmi8738 di default su ubuntu 14.04 [13:12] sorry my mystake [13:16] hey bugfix [13:19] GM, knightwise [13:25] evening [13:32] not quite [13:33] so much hate in bug #1268257 [13:33] bug 1268257 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates (Ubuntu) "nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1268257 [13:34] nobody is actually commenting with anything useful just with hatred saying "I'm gonna go debian, so poo on you!" [13:35] It's a wee bit annoying [13:35] But fixable with a 1 line workaround... [13:35] (each time it occurs) [13:36] They should just write that into the bug description TBH [13:36] Hmm, I can edit it [13:37] Dunno if I can save the edit === AlanBell_ is now known as AlanBell [14:33] * Laney calls double glazing companies to get quotes [14:33] no moar cold office [14:34] they sign Laney up for triple glazing companies cold calling lists... [14:34] oh noes [15:01] hmm... need to figure out hibernate on this Surface pro1 [15:02] rebooting is a little bit of a drag [15:06] Laney: but cold coffee is the only way to drink it, 1: you're a coder so forget about it, 2: you work for Canonical so get pulled into meetings and forget about it, 3: you work at Canonical so get pulled into coding debates and forget it, 4: Buy a thermal Mug end of cold coffee :P [15:11] Or just roll with it and make frappes [15:11] get a usb heated mug... http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0016LE4HM?*Version*=1&*entries*=0 [15:12] really? What kind of thermal output can you get out of 500ma at 5V? And is it good for your motherboard? [15:14] wouldn't take much heat to really slow down your coffee going cold [15:14] USB 3, 2A @ 5V would be 20W, which would take about a minute to raise 250ml of water by 1 degree Kelvin based on my back of an envelope maths [15:15] Yeah, but you also have to take into account the heat radiated from the cup and the surface of the coffee [15:15] awilkins: sure, would need good insulation [15:16] I suppose that one is insulated and also has a lid [15:16] Is it actually a USB mug? [15:16] Or is that a USB form factor 12V connector - says it's a 12V mug [15:17] It's probably Naughty to run 12V through a USB plug [15:17] there are usb variants these days i've seen, that one just showed up on quick search [15:18] * zmoylan-pi remembers seeing a cpm computer that had 240v running through part of the motherboard after it was modified by engineer instead of the usual 12v [15:18] USB sockets seem to be rated for 30V [15:20] USB 3,1 is going to allow upto 100W of power [15:21] will have to make a cover to prevent babies sticking wet fingers in usb sockets... [15:21] that's 20A... [15:21] s/babies/eejits/ [15:21] thems some fat cables [15:22] IIRC USB 3.1 neogates the voltages to reduce the current required [15:22] err, neogates? [15:22] close enough [15:23] diddledan: however you spell it [15:24] USB 3.1 can go upto 20V @ 5A [15:24] intrbiz, I'm not sure what you mean so can't work out how it should be spelt :-p [15:25] USB 3.1 negotiates higher voltages/currents, before it delivers that power through the cable. Unless the infant can talk USB they'll get the default 5V/100 - 500 mA [15:25] diddledan: negotiates is what I mean :P [15:25] aha [15:26] moreati, kids are quite clever these days [15:26] moreati, I used to be able to speak modem :-p [16:35] popey: uu 58 is getting harder now, and mvm level 8 I'm pretty sure is impossible ;) [16:36] level 8 on hard that is === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:16] is it possible to open an ost file under ubuntu? [18:19] ost ... [18:19] what kind of file is that ? [18:20] Outlook store === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [22:22] hi all [22:22] ;] [22:26] \o [22:33] o/ [22:42] (that snowden docu is on 4 in a wee while (2305) if anyone's still feeling nerdy) [22:47] i watched it yesterday, it's excellent [22:49] i'm kinda hoping that the docu is libre [22:50] shauno, citizenfour? [22:50] yeah [22:57] custard causes obesity? [23:16] how many litres per day do you need to consume? :-) [23:19] I'm not sure there's a custard RDA [23:20] there should be [23:21] but then, caffeine has an OD limit and it's all lies (we tried) [23:21] hi gents [23:22] lol [23:22] allo daftykins [23:22] * daftykins is back from an 11hr funeral [23:29] or rather there may've been a few pints afterward... [23:32] but when you've drank enough coffee doesn't the phasing ability it gives you prevent you from drinking any more? :-) [23:37] yeah the bmw mini is twice the size of the original mini [23:37] mini in name only [23:37] the bmw mini is actually bigger than some other cars === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [23:38] and ffs @ the proliferation of those gambling adverts [23:38] it's all mapps fault [23:38] :D [23:38] teehee [23:39] I swear they're all the same group just tax-broken separate company names [23:39] their passangers are getting larger... [23:39] zmoylan-pi, it's all the custard [23:39] the germini isn't a mini, it's a MINI. [23:40] i am the passenger ~ [23:41] I ride, and I ride [23:41] suddenly i want to play that [23:42] the smart car is smaller than original mini even if it only seats 2 [23:44] ooh it is Iggy Pop [23:47] the original mini is a tardis [23:48] my grandad used to take pigs to market in a mini [23:49] you sure you're a dub? sounds more like waterford [23:49] he lived in kildare [23:50] i'd dare 'im to kil a pig whilst driving said mini [23:52] seriously though, the original mini is one of the bigger cars I've been in [23:52] I mean, it's no land rover [23:54] I drove the new mini clubman the other day. That's even *less* mini