/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/02/25/#ubuntu-za.txt

Kilosmorning sleep heads03:33
KilosFetched 134 MB in 2min 43s (815 kB/s)           im sure this is cooking my modem'03:52
Kilossystem restart needed after that fat upgrade03:56
Kilosback04:00
Kiloshi barrydk  04:33
barrydkMorning everyone04:33
Kiloshi mazal  04:34
mazalMôre oom04:35
Kilosnice to wake up to rain04:42
Kilosmakes you want to sleep more04:42
barrydkMuch needed04:55
Kilosyeah04:59
Padronimornign05:10
=== Padroni is now known as Pad_a_way
Kiloshello padr05:11
Kilosoi05:11
Pad_a_wayhi05:18
Kilospadowan went away straight away05:18
Pad_a_waysorry - about to reboot05:18
Kilosnp05:18
Kiloshehe05:18
Pad_a_waythis kali install screwed up my win7 install05:18
Pad_a_waybusy getting that fixed05:18
Kilosai!05:19
Pad_a_wayI keep windows for Adobe Master Suite and one game05:19
Pad_a_waybrb05:19
Kilosk05:19
Kiloshi SDCDev  05:41
mazalWhat a mess !!!05:41
Kiloswhat?05:41
mazalinetpro: I signed Code of Conduct05:41
Kiloswell done05:41
mazalThere is no way a normal user will be able to do that05:42
Kilosno never05:42
mazalIf they want more people to sign that they will have to implement an easier clearer procedure05:42
mazalI struggled my ^%#%$ off05:42
Kiloslol05:42
mazalbarry gave it one look and said no way05:42
Kilosits that gpg key hey05:43
mazalAnd so will every normal user05:43
SDCDevMorning Kilos05:43
mazalKilos: The whole process is a mess and confusing , the key , the sending to ubuntu server , the sending to key ring server , the fingerprint register on launchpad , the actual signing05:44
Kilosand i think from a different pc you have to do it again05:44
mazalIt's crazy !!05:44
mazalI won't do it again05:44
Kiloslol05:44
Kilosthen stay on the same pc05:44
Kilosdid you do it on your external?05:44
Kiloshaha05:46
Kilosimagine how i battled05:46
Kilosthe fly had to help me in the end for this pc and pro helped me when i first signed on my old pc05:46
Kilosit recognizes the pc i think05:47
Kilosvery serious security job that05:48
mazalI did the "backup" your keys process , won't I be abled to use that to import my keys in case of re-install ?05:55
Kilosi have no idea, thats all way above me05:56
Kilosits very involved, it even told me to open another app so it could complete the key05:58
mazalYeah I also had to open apps and type in documents and stuff. But that was the easy part06:02
Kiloslol06:02
Jacques_StryMorning06:25
Kiloshi Jacques_Stry  06:26
Kilosthatgraemeguy is a guest today06:26
Kiloshello Guest15282  06:26
Jacques_Stry:)06:27
Guest15282hrm06:27
=== Guest15282 is now known as ThatGraemeGuy
Kiloswb ThatGraemeGuy  06:28
ThatGraemeGuyta06:28
Kilosmazal  all that effort is mainly for peeps serious about becoming ubuntu members i think but worth it in the long run06:30
Kilosyou get a sjambok06:30
Kiloshi captine  06:51
captinehi Kilos 06:51
captinei keep getting "input output error" on my xubuntu machine.  cannot open firefox now... 06:52
captinevery weird.  keeps telling me /tmp cannot be mounted etc... think something is a bit messed up06:52
ThatGraemeGuysmells like dying hard disk06:52
ThatGraemeGuyor bad cable or faulty SATA port06:53
Kiloseish06:53
Jacques_Stryouch06:53
ThatGraemeGuy99% bad drive, 0.9% dodgy SATA port, 0.1% bad cable06:53
captineThatGraemeGuy, i think the hard disk might be busting out... 2008 macbook06:53
ThatGraemeGuycorrect06:53
captinecan gparted do a test?06:54
ThatGraemeGuyback up important stuff as soon as you can, assuming you never back up regularly06:54
ThatGraemeGuymost people don't until its too late06:54
captinedont have anything on this laptop06:54
Kiloscaptine  le3t me find a way to mark he bad blocks06:54
captineother than some bazaar stuff.06:54
captinemain machine is a desktop.  just use this for IRC and fiddling.06:55
Kilosi have to find where i saved the commands06:55
Kilosfsck marks them and doesnt use them06:55
ThatGraemeGuyreplace the drive06:55
Jacques_Stryyes - the reason for bad blocks could be damaged head06:56
ThatGraemeGuydrives are manufactured with spare blocks, and the firmware automatically handles mapping and re-allocation06:56
ThatGraemeGuyby the time your O/S starts becoming aware of bad blocks, its because the disk has run out of spare blocks06:56
ThatGraemeGuybackup your data, replace the drive06:57
captineThatGraemeGuy, thanks.  no cash to replace.  will just use if for irc until it dies06:57
Kilosai!06:57
captinelet me be daring and upgrade to 15.04 beta...  nothing to lose really. :)07:00
ThatGraemeGuyheh07:00
ThatGraemeGuygood idea, generate lots of I/O on a failing disk, that'll make it last longer07:01
captine:)07:01
captineif not why not07:01
captinerather it die when expected, and not by "surprise"07:01
Kiloscaptine  first find the bad area and dont use it07:01
Kilosyou need to format to ext2 then run gparted and get it to check07:02
Kilosthat marks the bad blocks07:03
Kilosim still looking for the command to run while in the os07:03
ThatGraemeGuyai07:04
ThatGraemeGuycaaaaary on07:04
inetproai!07:05
inetprogood mornings07:05
Kiloshi inetpro  07:05
inetproThatGraemeGuy: peeps don't want to listen to you?07:05
inetproKilos: please get the sjambok for captine07:05
inetprocaptine: he's right man07:05
ThatGraemeGuymeh, he must carry on, I said my 2c07:05
captine:)07:06
inetprogood mornings07:07
Kiloscaptine  http://slexy.org/view/s20CXqTsmW07:07
Kilosthat will check and tell you if bad blocks is your prob07:07
Kilosinetpro  he cant replace it atm07:07
Kilosbeen there done that07:08
Kilosi forgot to use the new bin07:08
inetproKilos, captine: what ThatGraemeGuy is saying is, be ready for the big crash07:10
inetproit's around the corner07:10
captineyip07:10
captinenothing nb on tismachine07:10
ThatGraemeGuyyeah, stop giving false hope07:13
mazalish07:14
captinelol07:14
captineThatGraemeGuy, love your frankness :)07:15
ThatGraemeGuythanks07:15
ThatGraemeGuysome don't digest it very well :-)07:15
ThatGraemeGuys/some/most :P07:15
mazalcaptine: You know drive is failing but don't want to replace it ? I don't understand07:15
mazalinetpro: You gave me big job this morning :P07:16
captinemazal, this is an old machine.  i dont have cash now.  second child on the way... just bought a printer, had to replace my entire lawn and waiting for refund from bad lawn company that wrecked my lawn with glass in their topsoil etc07:16
ThatGraemeGuydrive is failing but Kilos is handing out some mumbo jumbo commands to supposedly rescue it07:16
ThatGraemeGuythere is no rescue07:16
ThatGraemeGuycaptine: just sell the first child, you can make another one later again07:17
* ThatGraemeGuy runs away07:17
captinelol07:17
captineunlikely to pass wa control07:17
mazal3.5" Sata captine ?07:18
Jacques_Stry2.507:18
Jacques_Strymacbook07:18
captine2.507:18
mazalFrom where are you ?07:18
captinecan only take up to 500gig.. apparently.  still have the old 160 gig that i took out, so can alway pop that one back in07:19
captinemazal, Jhb07:19
mazaloh ok07:19
captineI am not stressed. it is not my main machine.  might think about selling it and trying to get a lenova x220 second hand or something... when my ship comes in :)07:19
mazalIf you were closer to me I could have helped with a 250 that I still have that was in my PS307:21
captinemazal, thanks for the offer.  Don't stress.07:23
Kiloslol07:23
captinewill revert to the 160 if/when needed07:23
ThatGraemeGuywe just threw out dozens of old HDDs the other day07:24
ThatGraemeGuyI didn't bother taking any because they were all 80GB-500GB07:24
ThatGraemeGuyhere and there a 1TB07:24
captinei am a hoarder... remember me when throwing the next round out :)07:24
captineThatGraemeGuy, where do you work?  Cannot remember if I asked you before?07:25
ThatGraemeGuyhetzner07:27
Symmetriamorning07:27
captineah yes.  i remember now.  u use proxmox etc there...07:27
* Symmetria sighs07:27
SymmetriaI am grumpy :P07:27
Kiloshi Symmetria  07:27
SymmetriaI tried buying a gigabit network card (pcie) in Kenya07:28
Symmetriabelieve it or not, no one had one07:28
Symmetriathey had plenty of 10/100 PCI cards.... but not pci-e gigabit capable cards....07:28
Kiloswelcome to africa07:28
Symmetriawho the fuck even makes 10/100 PCI cards anymore?07:28
captinecrazy07:30
captinehere in SA there are also lots of 10/100's in the stores.  i hunted for a gig nic on a weekend once.07:31
captineman. those hp micro servers are pricey now days...07:33
Kiloswhat isnt07:36
Squirmmorning07:37
captineanyone see the articles about sybaritic closing down?  I ordered a hdd last year from them, but canceled as they took too long to confirm availability.  fortunately i didnt pay as may have struggled to get cash back07:37
Kiloshi Squirm  07:37
Kiloslucky07:38
nuvolario/ oh hi07:42
Kiloshi nuvolari  07:42
nuvolarihi oom Kilos :)07:42
Kilosmorning superfly  07:47
clrclr wondering where Kilos went.  Normally I would get a prompt 'wb clr'07:53
Kiloshere07:53
Kilossorry07:53
clrhehe07:53
Kiloshi clr  07:53
clrso after the meeting last night I joined the ubuntu-za on launchpad and signed the ubuntu code of conduct07:54
Kiloswell done, big job that07:54
clrI now have an unsigned  pgp key.  Have you had any keysigning parties or what do you do to help out with that07:54
Kilosask inetpro  07:55
clrOk, inetpro, ^^07:55
inetproai!07:55
Kiloslol07:55
Kilosmazal  did it this morning07:56
inetproif people see this as such a massive challenge, could someone please put together a simplified step by step documentation for those who haven't done it yet07:57
* inetpro has forgotten about the process long ago07:57
Kilosbig job maybe mazal  wrote it down07:58
inetproKilos: please use the sjambok to assign someone to do it on trello07:59
Kiloslol07:59
Kilosclr get trello07:59
clrintetpro, there is a good howto on ubuntu already.  I'm just saying, I created a pgp key but have not had it signed by anyone. So it is untrusted.  Surely we need to get keys signed to get it trusted  08:00
Kilosyou put the key in something and thats your signature if i remember right08:00
clrhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto08:00
mazalThat's the one I followed ^^08:01
clrKilos, I will ge trello, just not now. I am in a meeting :/  Maybe tonight08:02
Kiloscool08:02
mazalProblem I found with that one , you don't know up to where is neccesary just for the code of cunduct as that one is a overall gpg one08:02
mazalThen ran into problems with launchpad and had some seperate steps with launchpad08:03
Kilosmazal  will you write up a how to for that key thing please08:03
mazalThen ran into problems again cos there were 1 step missing from the gpg one that wasn't done08:03
clrI can also help with the how-to08:04
mazalSo my main struggle was that everything is documented somewhere , but not all in one place. I had to jump around to various sources to get 1 job done08:04
mazalThat's just my perspective08:05
ThatGraemeGuyi have a pgp key listed on my launchpad, but NO idea how I got it there and NO idea what to use it for :-/08:05
Kiloslol08:06
Kilospainful experience getting that done08:06
clrhaha ThatGraemeGuy do you still have the private key?08:06
mazalindeed08:06
ThatGraemeGuyyes I made a backup of it08:06
clrI have a key that is registered on the key server that I can't access cause I lost the private key, so can't even revoke it.  It's going to be stuck there forever08:07
Jacques_StryI'm gonna cry or scream - been trying to get a dsl line installed for the last 2 weeks....08:08
clreish, mine was up within 2 or three days08:08
Kilostelkom is very busy you know08:09
Kiloskeeping my connection stable08:09
Jacques_StryATM they tell me that the line needs to verified, so I tried doing it on the site but it's not recognising my order nr. and the tech support line cut out and now i have been holding on for 35 min again...08:10
Kilosai!08:10
Jacques_StryWhat's the legal repercussions for burning down our only provider down?08:11
Jacques_StryJust asking for in case...08:11
Jacques_StryIt seems I can't build proper sentences anymore - double down08:13
Jacques_StryBut lets be positive - So how's the Africa site progressing?08:16
Kilosai!08:16
Jacques_StryThe trello says needs african theme, you guys need art?08:19
Kilosim not sure what the fly has planned. if you work in the twit branch it should look similar to our site08:20
Kilosi think08:21
Kilosmaybe a map change or something but its a za initiative so we can be prominent there too08:22
Kiloshi magellanic  08:23
magellanicheya08:23
clrKilos, please paste the link to the trello board08:25
magellanicdoesn't maaz know08:25
magellanicMaaz: trello?08:25
Maazmagellanic: What?08:25
magellanicMaaz: trello link08:26
Maazmagellanic: Excuse me?08:26
Kilossec08:26
Kiloshttps://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco08:26
Kilosai!08:27
magellanicMaaz: trello is https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco08:29
Maazmagellanic: I'll remember that08:29
magellanicMaaz: trello?08:29
Maazmagellanic: trello is https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco08:29
Kiloshaha08:29
KilosMaaz  trello link08:29
Maazhttps://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco08:29
clrhow do I get access to the board? I already signed up a trello account08:30
Kilosgive pro your user name and he will add you08:30
Kilosor give it here08:31
Kilosill ry add you08:31
Kilostry as well08:31
Kilosme needs to fix my keyboard08:32
clrdone thanks08:40
Kiloswelcome to our trello08:43
Kiloshi magespawn  08:43
magespawnhi Kilos08:44
magellanicyou fell for the trello trap huh08:48
magellanic:p08:48
Kiloslol08:48
Kilosonly you are playing hard to get magellanic  08:48
magellaniclol08:48
magespawnmagellanic: i sorry, not following that08:49
Kilosbut we understand if you think its too difficult for you08:49
mazalbarrydk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Fun_On_Ubuntu08:49
magellanicfine add me, in read only mode for now :p hirenpatel8 on trello08:49
Kiloslol08:49
magellanicoh it's so pretty!08:50
Kilosare you added?08:51
magellanicaha08:51
Kilosadd thing closed itself08:51
* magellanic checks out the arrange events card08:52
Kiloshmm... are we load shedding agin09:04
magellanicask maaz09:04
Kiloslol09:04
magellanic;)09:05
Kilossee what you been missing out on09:05
magellanicme?09:06
magellanicoh09:06
magellanicya09:06
Kilos:-D09:07
mazalWhy am I not getting alerts of Kilos's replies on trello on the companies card ?09:09
magellanicare you assigned on the card?09:09
Kilos?09:09
mazalmagellanic: Nope I'm not , if I "subscribe" I will get alerts yes ?09:10
magellanicyes09:10
Kilosyes09:10
mazalAlmost missed that response from Kilos there09:10
mazalI have so many tabs and pages open now I feel surrounded :P09:10
Kiloslol just like me09:11
magespawnnot working on pages today but on multiple cli09:12
Kilossjoe09:12
Kiloswb Jacques_Stry  09:18
Kilosi thought you were load shed09:18
Jacques_StryWas disconnected while telkom was working on the line09:23
Jacques_Strynew dsl line up!09:23
Kilosyay09:23
Kilossee 2 weeks wasnt too bad09:23
Jacques_Stryhaha but the telephone guys messed up the filter connection on switchboard...09:24
Jacques_Stryso have to wait for him to come fix09:24
Kilosai!09:24
Jacques_Stryif i had RJ11's on me would have done myself09:25
Kilosoi09:36
Kilosbb09:36
Jacques_CloneMy phone - not gonna be in office allot today :-) 09:37
Kilosnp09:37
magespawngotta go, chat later09:42
Jacques_CloneWanted to get a ubuntu mouse - shipping too expensive09:58
Kiloseish09:58
Jacques_CloneUps wil cost 350 without custom taxes.09:59
Jacques_CloneSo mouse will cost R700-75010:00
Kiloshow much does customs add on10:00
Kilosthat ups is cheaper than a ups battery here10:01
Jacques_CloneHaha customs should be about R8010:04
Kiloswb Padroni  sorted?10:19
Padronihi Kilos10:19
PadroniWin is still slow but better10:19
Padronispend the better part of 1Gb data on update/upgrade Kali10:19
Kiloswhat is this kali thing10:19
PadroniLinux10:20
Padronior rather, the pentester / hacker's linux10:20
Kilosah10:20
Padroniit's a linux distro with all the best hacktools built in10:20
Kilossjoe10:20
Padronihttps://www.kali.org/10:21
Padronigo look10:21
Kilosok10:21
Padronithere are other tools as well though10:22
Padroninot part of kali10:22
Padronithat I use10:22
Padronilike a hardware searchengine10:22
Padroniwhich returns online devices as results10:22
Padronifor example10:22
magellanicare you a security engineer?10:23
Kilossjoe10:23
PadroniI can search for a specific brand of D-Link router, currently online in South Africa10:23
PadroniThen I can run login attempts on those till I get access10:23
Kilosfind a 157 and send it here10:23
PadroniFrom there...10:23
Padronisome printers for example10:23
Padronistore everything scanned on them10:24
Padroniin memory10:24
Kilosand you can see that?10:24
PadroniSo I can access that as well by searching for that specific brand of printer10:24
Padroniyes dude10:24
Kiloswow10:24
Kilosim too old to be a dude10:24
Padroniyou know how many security cameras I have dicked around with?10:24
Padronipan/zoom and generally just freak the people out?10:24
Kilossjoe10:25
PadroniI hacked a guy's Teevo last year and copied saved movies from him10:25
PadroniSome Gordon Ramsey series as well10:25
Kilosyou naughty10:25
PadroniTeevo is like a PVR thing from the states 10:25
Padronino 10:25
PadroniI am not10:25
PadroniI search for online devices10:26
ThatGraemeGuyyeah it sounds like you pretty much are10:26
Padroniand use the default login10:26
Padroniif the default login works10:26
Padronii did not break in, I logged in10:26
magellanicinteresting10:26
Padronigrey area, i know10:26
Padronibut still10:26
ThatGraemeGuylol10:26
ThatGraemeGuyok if thats how you want to spin it10:26
Padronilol10:26
PadroniI don't hack.  I look.10:26
Kilosi think you are naughty10:27
* Padroni goes and stands in the corner10:27
Kilosneed some sjambok10:27
Kiloslol10:27
Padronilet's not get kinky now10:27
Padronito early for that10:27
Kilossee already after a month or two you have mellowed some10:28
Padronimellowed some?10:28
Kilosya it was you that said you not a people person wasnt it10:28
PadroniI still am not10:29
PadroniI am a keyboard person though10:29
Kilosyou will mellow10:29
Kilosbut still find it hard to mix with normal peeps that dont understand your way of thinking10:29
Padroniyeah - well10:30
Padronimy job has made me paranoid10:30
Padronior rather, the extra-mural clubs I belong to10:30
Kiloslol10:31
Padroniso what is the conclusion of the meeting last night?10:35
Kilosi think we are all happy with progress made so far this year10:35
Padroniexcept that we need another meeting in March?10:35
Padronioh ok10:35
* Padroni is reminded that he has yet to contribute anything 10:36
mazaland it was requested that everyone a. Join the launchpad group and b. Sign the code of conduct10:36
Kiloshaha10:36
PadroniI think I have done both10:37
Padroninot sure 10:37
Kiloshe cant do that and remain anon10:37
Padronioh but he can...?10:37
mazalAnd a link to the lp group has already been added on the web site (I think)10:37
Kilossjoe10:37
Padronihttps://launchpad.net/~localhosthero10:38
PadroniThat's me10:38
mazalPadroni: you need to join the Ubuntu za group as well10:38
Padronilink?10:38
mazalhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za10:38
Padroniah wait10:39
PadroniI need to be in ubuntu for the code of conduct thing10:39
mazaland people were reminded to fill in their info on the memberlist10:40
mazalhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members10:40
Kiloshes bang of wiki pages10:40
Padroniugh10:40
PadroniI looked at that wiki10:41
PadroniI am NOT gonna peck-type my way through that crap10:41
Padronione of you will need to volunteer, and I will give the details.10:41
Kiloslol10:41
Padronithat is almost as bad as MS Word-generated HTML10:41
Padronijeez10:41
mazali will help with that10:42
Kiloswait till youve singned the code of conduct and got a gpg key10:42
Padroniok10:42
Kilosthen wikis are a breaze10:43
Kilosbreeze too10:43
Kiloshi andrewlsd  10:46
andrewlsdHi Kilos10:46
mazalKilos: I will add Padroni once info is received10:47
Kiloscool10:47
mazalhi andrewlsd10:48
magellanicheya andrewlsd 10:50
Padroni mazal10:50
Padroniapp date?10:50
Kilosi go lie down a bit, you guys can greet joiners if you please10:55
andrewlsdHi Mazal, Magellanic10:55
Padroniwow11:01
Padronihelo_name Windows7-PC.www.huaweimobilewifi.com @ 197.228.173.219.telkomadsl.co.za11:02
Padronigood lord11:02
Padroniwhat else do I need to rape this person?11:02
Padronithis all from a mail header11:02
Padroni1. OS 2. Router 3. IP11:03
Jacques_StryAll of the above :)11:04
Jacques_Strymazal: I see you allready added LP to ubuntu-za.org11:05
ThatGraemeGuy you might try some more savory language, this is an official Ubuntu channel after all11:38
PadroniNoted.11:42
Symmetriaheh11:53
Symmetriaeveryone ready for the rand to go to hell? :)11:53
Webtricityand for taxes to go up11:55
Webtricityi hope we dont get another ratings downgrade11:55
Padronianyone here know about bluray players?11:59
PadroniI need one that offers network browsing11:59
Symmetriaheh Webtricity honestly? for me living out of the country and being paid in dollars 12:02
Symmetriaand with the forex market trades I just made12:02
SymmetriaI have to say, don't shoot me, but I'm hoping the opposite12:02
SymmetriaI just went short on the rand, and *HARD* 12:03
andrewlsd"a blue ray player that offers network browsing" << sounds like a laptop12:03
andrewlsd:-P12:03
WebtricitySymmetria, if you are living outside of SA earning USD, then yeah, capitalize on it12:03
WebtricityFor those who for some odd reason still live in SA, well... One day we will wake up12:04
SymmetriaWebtricity heh, well, I short sold a million dollars worth of rand currency in the hope it falls for when I buy back to cover the short 12:04
Symmetriaso if the rand tanks 10% I'll make a quick 100 grand 12:04
Symmetriaif it rises 10%, its gonna hurt like hell :)12:04
WebtricityWhat i'd suggest you do is make a list of upcoming events when Zuma will speak... You can bet that after every speech he makes, the rand will drop12:05
magellaniclol andrewlsd, indeed12:05
magellanicheya Symmetria 12:05
Kiloshi Webtricity  welcome to ubuntu-za12:07
Kilosnever seen you before12:07
WebtricityHey Kilos12:08
Kilosmaybe i was asleep12:08
WebtricityI haven't been in here before...12:08
WebtricityTrying to track down .za IRC, so that brought me here12:08
KilosPadroni  is that you?12:08
Padronieh?12:09
KilosWebtricity  share with us, what do you do and where are you12:10
Kiloswe wlike seeing new faces here12:10
* andrewlsd greets Webtricity12:10
* Padroni waves12:12
Webtricity*waves*12:19
WebtricityI work in ICT, currently VoIP12:19
Webtricityin Jhb12:19
* Padroni pays attention12:19
Kilosnice12:19
WebtricityWhat do you do Kilos?12:20
Kilosare you looking for a certain .za on irc i only know one12:20
Kilosi do as little as possible, im kinda retired12:20
WebtricityNot looking for anything specific, just noticed that IRC in .za is dying down, not many networks left, so trying to figure out where all the people went12:20
* Padroni noticed as well12:21
Padronipeople Whatsapp these days12:21
Kilosoh ya12:21
Padronionly us oldschool folks still IRC12:21
Kiloswe went quiet for a wehile too12:21
Kilosbusy reviving now12:21
Padronibut I guess this means us geeks got IRC back for ourselves?12:21
WebtricityWell, the .za userbase seems to have assimilated into channels on bigger networks, rather than forming nice .za networks12:22
Symmetriauhoh he hiked the budget deficit12:22
WebtricityIn the late 90's and early 2000's, I was too young to have access to decent hosting, now I do and there is no big need for it12:23
Kiloslol12:23
Symmetriafacebook killed the irc star12:23
Symmetria;p12:23
Symmetriaactually irc numbers have been declining for years 12:23
Symmetriatrust me :) I still run a coupla efnet servers12:23
Kilosya blame twitter as well12:24
PadroniI used to chat on irc.atrum.org12:24
Padroniyears back12:24
Symmetrialol I was banned from most of the za networks for years12:25
Symmetria;p12:25
Webtricityagreed, but facebook and twitter are where the new blood are going... What happened to the old blood? Folks must still be lurking somewhere12:25
WebtricitySymmetria... Well...12:25
SymmetriaWebtricity, lol, maybe if I do this it will make more sense12:25
=== Symmetria is now known as Vortexia
* Vortexia grins12:25
=== Vortexia is now known as Symmetria
Kiloshmm... old blood12:25
Symmetrialol I been on irc now since 1993 ;p12:26
WebtricitySymmetria, I know you used to go by Vortexia12:26
WebtricityThats why I said Well... You did not always play very nicely with others if I recall correctly :P12:27
Kiloslol12:27
Kiloshe still doesnt12:27
Webtricityhaha12:27
KilosSymmetria  hows the deb-delta plan coming along12:27
SymmetriaWebtricity I dont believe in playing nicely with others :P I want what I want, and I generally get it 12:27
WebtricitySymmetria, remember darkness.blabber.net?12:27
Symmetrialol, blabber.net.... the network aragon managed to fuck up and kill 12:28
Symmetriatimewiz and I built that network12:28
WebtricityYeah I know12:28
Symmetriaaragon screwed it up12:28
Symmetriadoes it still exist? ;p12:28
WebtricityYou also stole my userbase of 500 users or so, so I can say I contributed to it12:28
WebtricityIt has one server up now, no users though12:29
Symmetriaheh I think I'm probably the longest standing irc user still using irc in the za context ;p12:29
WebtricityGaspode is still around12:29
Symmetrialol only to increase his idle time12:30
Symmetriahe hasnt done shit on irc in years 12:30
WebtricityYeah, he is not active per se12:30
WebtricityAtrum is still going relatively strong12:30
Webtricityapart from that there isnt much else12:30
WebtricityShadowfire is still around, but its a ghost town12:30
WebtricityDoes irc.ac.za have a good .za userbase?12:31
Symmetria500 connected at the moment12:31
Symmetria:) which is probably busier than any other entire za network ;p12:32
Webtricity500 connected from .za?12:32
Symmetriano idea wtf they connect from :)12:32
Webtricityyeah doubt there are 500 .za users on efnet12:33
Symmetriairc.ac.za attracts a lot of users because its v6 is dead stable12:35
SymmetriaI have considered moving irc.ac.za to my house in KE though12:35
SymmetriaI have the bandwidth and redundancy *shrug*12:35
ThatGraemeGuyoh wow, Gaspode12:41
ThatGraemeGuyblast from the past12:41
Kiloshere i was hoping Webtricity  will be an improvement on eskomtricity12:47
WebtricityNever think I would be an improvement of anything12:47
Webtricity:P12:47
WebtricityYou will find yourself let down12:47
Kiloslol12:47
WebtricitySymmetria, what work are you doing nowadays?12:50
SymmetriaWebtricity I head up IP strategy for Liquid Telecommunications group12:52
WebtricityVery nice12:53
Symmetriaholy shit13:00
Symmetriathey hiked the hell outta the petrol in the budget13:00
WebtricityHow much?13:00
Symmetria30.6c a litre13:01
WebtricityThats mad13:01
Symmetriayou pay slightly less tax if you earning under half a mil a year gross 13:01
WebtricityOh wait, so tax went down for under half a mil earners?13:01
Symmetriarebates and medical aid shit make it a net drop13:01
Symmetriaafter the 1% increase 13:02
Symmetrialol cigarettes just went up by 82c a pack13:03
Symmetriawhisky up by R3 a bottle13:03
Symmetriabeer up by 15c a beer 13:03
Symmetriaelectricity going up by 2c per kilowatt hour13:04
WebtricityOkay, so on the cigarettes and whiskey, thats about an extra R80 a month13:06
Symmetriaok Im outta here13:09
WebtricityPersonal income tax will be raised by one percentage point for all taxpayers earning more than R181 900 a year.13:09
WebtricityNot sure how that is tax going down for people earning under half a mil13:09
PadroniThankfully, I drink less whisky than before13:15
PadroniAnd I make my own beer13:15
PadroniSo that does not affect me by much.13:15
Kiloshaha13:15
* andrewlsd waves goodbye to y'all.13:16
andrewlsdI'm out for the rest of the afternoon. Cheers.13:17
Kiloscheers andrewlsd  13:17
Kilosgo well13:17
WebtricityI drink lots of whiskey13:17
PadroniI'm out too13:18
PadroniI might be back later13:19
* Padroni waves13:19
Kilosgo well pad13:19
Kilosai!13:19
superflygood evening14:05
Kiloshi superfly  14:11
Kiloshi drussell  14:11
Kilosoh my14:11
drussellyo Kilos 14:14
Kiloshi magellanic  16:26
magespawngood evening16:26
Kilosai!16:26
Kiloshi magespawn  16:27
magespawnhi Kilos 16:27
Kilosmagespawn  go pm man16:30
magespawnKilos i am there16:32
* Padroni waves16:44
Kiloshi Padroni  16:44
magespawnhi Padroni 16:44
Padronihi magespawn / Kilos16:46
PadroniOne at a time, folks.16:48
PadroniDon't speak at once...16:48
Kiloslol16:48
magellanichi Padroni16:53
magellanicI waited16:53
Kilosoops16:54
Kilossorry16:54
Kilosfor years i been typing mag tab now its hard to break the habit16:55
magespawnhow to freak a touch screen phone out, put a small drop of water on the screen16:55
magellaniceish Kilos I spoilt it hey16:56
Kiloslol16:56
Kilosi run on habit and subconscious so please forgive me16:56
magellanicnoted16:57
magellanicyou can't even type mage tab16:57
magellanicso I'll forgive16:57
Kiloslol16:57
Padroni working a double again16:59
Kilosi go eat16:59
Padronihi magellanic16:59
Kilossjoe Padroni  16:59
PadroniI am eating in front of my computers again16:59
magespawnis there anyother way?16:59
Kiloswhen you bored go read what i have revived of my blog16:59
Padronilink?16:59
KilosMaaz  kilos.blog17:00
MaazKilos: kilos.blog is http://mileyssignificantblog.blogspot.com/17:00
Kiloshi qwebirc71983  17:04
qwebirc71983Hello17:07
qwebirc71983How goes it?17:07
magespawnPadroni: how long is a double?17:09
Kilosqwebirc71983  good ty and you17:10
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za17:10
Padroni18 hours17:11
PadroniFrom 08H00 to 02H0017:11
magespawnthat is hectic, what happens after that? time off etc?17:11
qwebirc71983I am good, been on Ubuntu for a while but had no idea such a chat existed, so you are all in south africa and all run ubuntu or some form of Linux?17:11
PadroniI get tomorrow off17:11
Padronicorrect, qwebirc7198317:12
PadroniI have Ubu 14.04 as my desktop OS17:12
magespawnoh wow, and that is about that?17:12
Padroniand Kali on my laptop17:12
Padroniyes17:12
Padronionce or twice a week, I work a double shift in lieue of the next day off17:12
Padronithen I get to go do shit in office hours17:12
Kilossome of us have moved to other countries after jobs qwebirc71983  but most of us here use ubuntu 17:12
Padronii have two long weekends a month this way17:12
magespawni see, flexi time sort of?17:13
Kilossome of our guys are in silicon valley usa17:13
Kilosohers in uk UAE and so on17:14
qwebirc71983that os great, cool stuff. So what do we discuss etc.....is it striclty ubuntu or anything within reason?17:14
Kilosnope17:14
Kilosyou start by telling us what you do and where you etc etc17:15
Kiloswe discuss family matters and farming and mechanical and some times just junk17:15
Kilospity you werent here last night. we had our monthly meeting17:16
Kilosif you need help with most things someone should be able to help17:16
magespawnor at least  pint you in the right direction17:16
magespawns/pint/point17:17
qwebirc71983I am Sys Admin for a company in Florida, Roodepoort. Work mainly on windows but when i get home im too tired for windows so i break out the Fedora or Ubuntu on my laptop. Dig network security busy with CCNP Security and hoping to score a CISSP in the futre17:17
Kilosmagespawn  do you have the link to last nights minutes for him/her to catch up on17:17
qwebirc71983I'm a dude17:18
Kilosthats nice qwebirc71983  17:18
Kiloslol17:18
Kilosdudes wear fancy clothes17:18
Kiloswe have a lady here too17:18
Kilosso we watch our language17:19
Kilosohi superfly  sorry i missed you earlier17:19
Kilosqwebirc71983  we have hands full of sysadmins here17:19
magespawnwill this suffice https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2015022417:19
Kilosyou are in the right place17:19
Kilosi dont think that gives last nights minutes17:20
Kilosmonth before maybe17:20
magespawnhas the summary and the log17:20
Kilosthew pro is slacking again17:20
Kilosoh good17:21
Kilossorry pro17:21
magespawnlooks like it is the right minutes17:21
Kilosqwebirc71983  im the greeter bot here17:21
Kilosha17:24
Padroniwait17:25
PadroniWAIT!17:25
magespawnhalf way through the converstion too17:25
PadroniThere is a lady here?17:25
Kiloslol17:25
PadroniWHO IS SHE?17:25
Kilosshes hiding17:25
PadroniWHO? TELL ME NOW!!!!!17:25
Kilosnono17:25
Kilosshe is studying and you will distract her17:26
Padroni so she is real?17:26
* Padroni stands amazed17:26
Kilosyes17:26
Padroniwow17:26
Padroniwho knew?17:26
Kilosmaybe i upset him when i said dudes wear fancy clothes17:28
magespawnPadroni: stranger than fiction17:29
Padronilol17:29
Padronithat is good though17:30
PadroniI would not mind having my kids switch to Ubuntu17:30
* Padroni thinks he should maybe just force it onto them...17:30
magespawnwhat is holding them back?17:30
Padroniprobably me, to be honest.17:31
Padronibut they are still learning now17:31
Padronithey are only 8 and 10 respectively17:31
Padroniand pretty pc literate for their age17:31
Padronibetter than quite a few of their teachers, anyway17:31
Kilosthey learn so fast17:31
magespawnmm mine are 8 and 1217:31
Padronimy boy is 4 months old today17:32
Padroni#proud17:32
Kiloslol17:32
magespawnthats 317:32
Padroniyup17:33
Padroni3 kids17:33
Padronione my own17:33
magespawnnow that is hectic17:33
Padroniwhich part?17:37
Padronithree kids, or that just one is mine?17:37
magespawnboth17:43
Kiloslol17:43
Kilosmagespawn  maybe he saw we got trello and was scared hed get roped in17:45
magespawnyup maybe17:46
Kiloshi Private_User  17:56
Private_Userhi Kilos17:56
Kiloshi Tonberry_  17:56
* mazal peaks in quickly18:00
Kilosnaand mazal  18:00
Kiloswhy quickly18:00
mazalOn my way to go rest18:00
Kilosah18:00
mazalGaming done , resting time :P18:00
Kiloslol18:00
mazalPadroni, I didn't receive anything , so I just added what I know18:01
mazalKilos, yeah was some racing tonight , now I'm moeg18:01
Kiloslol18:01
* mazal goes for long bath18:02
Padroniodd18:03
PadroniI sent the mail18:03
Padronior rather, Outlook.com did - eventually18:03
Padronianyone got Android or iPhone18:12
Padronithen get the game Duet18:12
Padroniit's insane18:12
Padroniand the soundtrack is awesome18:12
Kiloslol18:13
Padronitry it18:13
Kilosnot me man18:14
Kilosat times freecell is too fast for me18:14
Padronino man18:16
Padroniseriaaz?18:16
PadroniI am addicted to Warthunder18:16
Padroniif you are into WWII era planes and tanks18:16
Padroniyou should get that game18:16
Padroniit's INSANE18:16
Padroniand the graphics is awesome18:17
PadroniWWII war game, with classical music as soundtrack18:17
Padronisounds dumb - but it WORKS.18:17
Kilosoh i like war games18:17
Kilosonly played 2 18:18
Kilosred alert1 and AOE218:18
Kilosthen pc was too slow to go further18:18
Padroniyour current pc?18:18
Kilosnope18:18
Padronioh18:19
PadroniAOE is good18:19
Kilosthis one is for linux 18:19
PadroniI liked it18:19
Padronispecs?18:19
Kilos3g dual core 4g ddr318:19
Padroniah ok18:19
Padronigraphics card?18:19
Kilosnvidia 210 i think18:20
Kilosbottom of the range18:20
Padroninah that is fine18:20
Padroniyou can play warthunder18:20
Padroniwww.warthunder.com18:20
Padronibig download18:20
PadroniWORTH IT18:20
Kiloshow big?18:20
Padroniyou can add me and I will buddy up with you18:20
Padroni9Gb18:20
Kiloswow18:20
Kilosn o man i go 2 months on an 8ta 2 + 118:21
magespawna little more than most people have on mobile data in one month18:21
Padronieish...18:21
Padronii forget you guys use mobile data18:21
Kiloslol18:21
PadroniI average 300-340GB / month18:21
Kiloswow18:21
Padronii do 5Gb before lunch18:21
Kilosdoing what?18:22
Padroniwork18:22
PadroniI manage a datacentre's worth of servers18:22
Kilosah18:22
PadroniThat includes downloads though18:22
Padronibut I do not download every day18:23
Padroniin fact, I download very little for someone with uncapped18:23
magespawnthis month the company is edging towards 479 Gb, first month on a capped account so i am bit nervous18:24
Kiloswhew18:24
magellaniccap of how much?18:24
magespawn479 Gb18:24
magespawnat about 92% so far18:25
magellanicare you monitoring what is using up the data though18:25
magespawnnot strictly, we also provide all the guests in the hotels with wifi18:26
magellanicoh okay18:27
magellanicwould be interesting to see18:27
magespawnand the bosses two houses etc18:27
magespawnvery spread out geographically18:27
magespawnyou get the odd person who uses a lot of video type stuff like youtube, but by far the most is system updates18:28
magellanicgood reason to proxy them I guess18:29
Padroniif you have mostly the same OS, I would create a update server18:30
Padroniwhere all machines requests updates from one specific machine in the network18:31
Padronione updates, the rest update from there18:31
Padroninot always possible though18:31
magespawni can do that for each property which will cut down on that traffic, they company machines all run the same os and antivirus18:32
Padronithere ya go then18:32
Padroniat least you update your machines18:32
Padronimost places don't18:32
magespawnwhen if comes to downloads though the ones that always sneek up on me are the guests phones, they all see to update when on wifi18:33
magellanicyeah, I've seen places block google play store etc18:34
PadroniI have noticed that as well18:35
Padronipeople update the shit out of their stuff when on free wifi18:35
Padroniit's odd18:35
PadroniI am off18:48
Padronilater folks.18:48
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:58
inetpromazal: playing lekker with the wiki :-) 19:01
inetprogood evening 19:01
magespawni inetpro19:04
magespawnhi too19:04
magellanicheya inetpro 19:18
* mazal is off to bed19:19
inetprothanks for the efforts mazal 19:19
mazalThat's why I learned , so that I can help ;) is plz inetpro 19:20
mazalSleep well everyone , God bless19:20
mazalNight19:21
magellaniclater Maaz 19:21
magellanicmazal even19:21
qwebirc85984my internet went drunk for a minute, what did i miss?19:23
magellanicnothing hey19:25

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