[03:33] morning sleep heads [03:52] Fetched 134 MB in 2min 43s (815 kB/s) im sure this is cooking my modem' [03:56] system restart needed after that fat upgrade [04:00] back [04:33] hi barrydk [04:33] Morning everyone [04:34] hi mazal [04:35] Môre oom [04:42] nice to wake up to rain [04:42] makes you want to sleep more [04:55] Much needed [04:59] yeah [05:10] mornign === Padroni is now known as Pad_a_way [05:11] hello padr [05:11] oi [05:18] hi [05:18] padowan went away straight away [05:18] sorry - about to reboot [05:18] np [05:18] hehe [05:18] this kali install screwed up my win7 install [05:18] busy getting that fixed [05:19] ai! [05:19] I keep windows for Adobe Master Suite and one game [05:19] brb [05:19] k [05:41] hi SDCDev [05:41] What a mess !!! [05:41] what? [05:41] inetpro: I signed Code of Conduct [05:41] well done [05:42] There is no way a normal user will be able to do that [05:42] no never [05:42] If they want more people to sign that they will have to implement an easier clearer procedure [05:42] I struggled my ^%#%$ off [05:42] lol [05:42] barry gave it one look and said no way [05:43] its that gpg key hey [05:43] And so will every normal user [05:43] Morning Kilos [05:44] Kilos: The whole process is a mess and confusing , the key , the sending to ubuntu server , the sending to key ring server , the fingerprint register on launchpad , the actual signing [05:44] and i think from a different pc you have to do it again [05:44] It's crazy !! [05:44] I won't do it again [05:44] lol [05:44] then stay on the same pc [05:44] did you do it on your external? [05:46] haha [05:46] imagine how i battled [05:46] the fly had to help me in the end for this pc and pro helped me when i first signed on my old pc [05:47] it recognizes the pc i think [05:48] very serious security job that [05:55] I did the "backup" your keys process , won't I be abled to use that to import my keys in case of re-install ? [05:56] i have no idea, thats all way above me [05:58] its very involved, it even told me to open another app so it could complete the key [06:02] Yeah I also had to open apps and type in documents and stuff. But that was the easy part [06:02] lol [06:25] Morning [06:26] hi Jacques_Stry [06:26] thatgraemeguy is a guest today [06:26] hello Guest15282 [06:27] :) [06:27] hrm === Guest15282 is now known as ThatGraemeGuy [06:28] wb ThatGraemeGuy [06:28] ta [06:30] mazal all that effort is mainly for peeps serious about becoming ubuntu members i think but worth it in the long run [06:30] you get a sjambok [06:51] hi captine [06:51] hi Kilos [06:52] i keep getting "input output error" on my xubuntu machine. cannot open firefox now... [06:52] very weird. keeps telling me /tmp cannot be mounted etc... think something is a bit messed up [06:52] smells like dying hard disk [06:53] or bad cable or faulty SATA port [06:53] eish [06:53] ouch [06:53] 99% bad drive, 0.9% dodgy SATA port, 0.1% bad cable [06:53] ThatGraemeGuy, i think the hard disk might be busting out... 2008 macbook [06:53] correct [06:54] can gparted do a test? [06:54] back up important stuff as soon as you can, assuming you never back up regularly [06:54] most people don't until its too late [06:54] dont have anything on this laptop [06:54] captine le3t me find a way to mark he bad blocks [06:54] other than some bazaar stuff. [06:55] main machine is a desktop. just use this for IRC and fiddling. [06:55] i have to find where i saved the commands [06:55] fsck marks them and doesnt use them [06:55] replace the drive [06:56] yes - the reason for bad blocks could be damaged head [06:56] drives are manufactured with spare blocks, and the firmware automatically handles mapping and re-allocation [06:56] by the time your O/S starts becoming aware of bad blocks, its because the disk has run out of spare blocks [06:57] backup your data, replace the drive [06:57] ThatGraemeGuy, thanks. no cash to replace. will just use if for irc until it dies [06:57] ai! [07:00] let me be daring and upgrade to 15.04 beta... nothing to lose really. :) [07:00] heh [07:01] good idea, generate lots of I/O on a failing disk, that'll make it last longer [07:01] :) [07:01] if not why not [07:01] rather it die when expected, and not by "surprise" [07:01] captine first find the bad area and dont use it [07:02] you need to format to ext2 then run gparted and get it to check [07:03] that marks the bad blocks [07:03] im still looking for the command to run while in the os [07:04] ai [07:04] caaaaary on [07:05] ai! [07:05] good mornings [07:05] hi inetpro [07:05] ThatGraemeGuy: peeps don't want to listen to you? [07:05] Kilos: please get the sjambok for captine [07:05] captine: he's right man [07:05] meh, he must carry on, I said my 2c [07:06] :) [07:07] good mornings [07:07] captine http://slexy.org/view/s20CXqTsmW [07:07] that will check and tell you if bad blocks is your prob [07:07] inetpro he cant replace it atm [07:08] been there done that [07:08] i forgot to use the new bin [07:10] Kilos, captine: what ThatGraemeGuy is saying is, be ready for the big crash [07:10] it's around the corner [07:10] yip [07:10] nothing nb on tismachine [07:13] yeah, stop giving false hope [07:14] ish [07:14] lol [07:15] ThatGraemeGuy, love your frankness :) [07:15] thanks [07:15] some don't digest it very well :-) [07:15] s/some/most :P [07:15] captine: You know drive is failing but don't want to replace it ? I don't understand [07:16] inetpro: You gave me big job this morning :P [07:16] mazal, this is an old machine. i dont have cash now. second child on the way... just bought a printer, had to replace my entire lawn and waiting for refund from bad lawn company that wrecked my lawn with glass in their topsoil etc [07:16] drive is failing but Kilos is handing out some mumbo jumbo commands to supposedly rescue it [07:16] there is no rescue [07:17] captine: just sell the first child, you can make another one later again [07:17] * ThatGraemeGuy runs away [07:17] lol [07:17] unlikely to pass wa control [07:18] 3.5" Sata captine ? [07:18] 2.5 [07:18] macbook [07:18] 2.5 [07:18] From where are you ? [07:19] can only take up to 500gig.. apparently. still have the old 160 gig that i took out, so can alway pop that one back in [07:19] mazal, Jhb [07:19] oh ok [07:19] I am not stressed. it is not my main machine. might think about selling it and trying to get a lenova x220 second hand or something... when my ship comes in :) [07:21] If you were closer to me I could have helped with a 250 that I still have that was in my PS3 [07:23] mazal, thanks for the offer. Don't stress. [07:23] lol [07:23] will revert to the 160 if/when needed [07:24] we just threw out dozens of old HDDs the other day [07:24] I didn't bother taking any because they were all 80GB-500GB [07:24] here and there a 1TB [07:24] i am a hoarder... remember me when throwing the next round out :) [07:25] ThatGraemeGuy, where do you work? Cannot remember if I asked you before? [07:27] hetzner [07:27] morning [07:27] ah yes. i remember now. u use proxmox etc there... [07:27] * Symmetria sighs [07:27] I am grumpy :P [07:27] hi Symmetria [07:28] I tried buying a gigabit network card (pcie) in Kenya [07:28] believe it or not, no one had one [07:28] they had plenty of 10/100 PCI cards.... but not pci-e gigabit capable cards.... [07:28] welcome to africa [07:28] who the fuck even makes 10/100 PCI cards anymore? [07:30] crazy [07:31] here in SA there are also lots of 10/100's in the stores. i hunted for a gig nic on a weekend once. [07:33] man. those hp micro servers are pricey now days... [07:36] what isnt [07:37] morning [07:37] anyone see the articles about sybaritic closing down? I ordered a hdd last year from them, but canceled as they took too long to confirm availability. fortunately i didnt pay as may have struggled to get cash back [07:37] hi Squirm [07:38] lucky [07:42] o/ oh hi [07:42] hi nuvolari [07:42] hi oom Kilos :) [07:47] morning superfly [07:53] clr wondering where Kilos went. Normally I would get a prompt 'wb clr' [07:53] here [07:53] sorry [07:53] hehe [07:53] hi clr [07:54] so after the meeting last night I joined the ubuntu-za on launchpad and signed the ubuntu code of conduct [07:54] well done, big job that [07:54] I now have an unsigned pgp key. Have you had any keysigning parties or what do you do to help out with that [07:55] ask inetpro [07:55] Ok, inetpro, ^^ [07:55] ai! [07:55] lol [07:56] mazal did it this morning [07:57] if people see this as such a massive challenge, could someone please put together a simplified step by step documentation for those who haven't done it yet [07:57] * inetpro has forgotten about the process long ago [07:58] big job maybe mazal wrote it down [07:59] Kilos: please use the sjambok to assign someone to do it on trello [07:59] lol [07:59] clr get trello [08:00] intetpro, there is a good howto on ubuntu already. I'm just saying, I created a pgp key but have not had it signed by anyone. So it is untrusted. Surely we need to get keys signed to get it trusted [08:00] you put the key in something and thats your signature if i remember right [08:00] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto [08:01] That's the one I followed ^^ [08:02] Kilos, I will ge trello, just not now. I am in a meeting :/ Maybe tonight [08:02] cool [08:02] Problem I found with that one , you don't know up to where is neccesary just for the code of cunduct as that one is a overall gpg one [08:03] Then ran into problems with launchpad and had some seperate steps with launchpad [08:03] mazal will you write up a how to for that key thing please [08:03] Then ran into problems again cos there were 1 step missing from the gpg one that wasn't done [08:04] I can also help with the how-to [08:04] So my main struggle was that everything is documented somewhere , but not all in one place. I had to jump around to various sources to get 1 job done [08:05] That's just my perspective [08:05] i have a pgp key listed on my launchpad, but NO idea how I got it there and NO idea what to use it for :-/ [08:06] lol [08:06] painful experience getting that done [08:06] haha ThatGraemeGuy do you still have the private key? [08:06] indeed [08:06] yes I made a backup of it [08:07] I have a key that is registered on the key server that I can't access cause I lost the private key, so can't even revoke it. It's going to be stuck there forever [08:08] I'm gonna cry or scream - been trying to get a dsl line installed for the last 2 weeks.... [08:08] eish, mine was up within 2 or three days [08:09] telkom is very busy you know [08:09] keeping my connection stable [08:10] ATM they tell me that the line needs to verified, so I tried doing it on the site but it's not recognising my order nr. and the tech support line cut out and now i have been holding on for 35 min again... [08:10] ai! [08:11] What's the legal repercussions for burning down our only provider down? [08:11] Just asking for in case... [08:13] It seems I can't build proper sentences anymore - double down [08:16] But lets be positive - So how's the Africa site progressing? [08:16] ai! [08:19] The trello says needs african theme, you guys need art? [08:20] im not sure what the fly has planned. if you work in the twit branch it should look similar to our site [08:21] i think [08:22] maybe a map change or something but its a za initiative so we can be prominent there too [08:23] hi magellanic [08:23] heya [08:25] Kilos, please paste the link to the trello board [08:25] doesn't maaz know [08:25] Maaz: trello? [08:25] magellanic: What? [08:26] Maaz: trello link [08:26] magellanic: Excuse me? [08:26] sec [08:26] https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco [08:27] ai! [08:29] Maaz: trello is https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco [08:29] magellanic: I'll remember that [08:29] Maaz: trello? [08:29] magellanic: trello is https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco [08:29] haha [08:29] Maaz trello link [08:29] https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco [08:30] how do I get access to the board? I already signed up a trello account [08:30] give pro your user name and he will add you [08:31] or give it here [08:31] ill ry add you [08:31] try as well [08:32] me needs to fix my keyboard [08:40] done thanks [08:43] welcome to our trello [08:43] hi magespawn [08:44] hi Kilos [08:48] you fell for the trello trap huh [08:48] :p [08:48] lol [08:48] only you are playing hard to get magellanic [08:48] lol [08:49] magellanic: i sorry, not following that [08:49] but we understand if you think its too difficult for you [08:49] barrydk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Fun_On_Ubuntu [08:49] fine add me, in read only mode for now :p hirenpatel8 on trello [08:49] lol [08:50] oh it's so pretty! [08:51] are you added? [08:51] aha [08:51] add thing closed itself [08:52] * magellanic checks out the arrange events card [09:04] hmm... are we load shedding agin [09:04] ask maaz [09:04] lol [09:05] ;) [09:05] see what you been missing out on [09:06] me? [09:06] oh [09:06] ya [09:07] :-D [09:09] Why am I not getting alerts of Kilos's replies on trello on the companies card ? [09:09] are you assigned on the card? [09:09] ? [09:10] magellanic: Nope I'm not , if I "subscribe" I will get alerts yes ? [09:10] yes [09:10] yes [09:10] Almost missed that response from Kilos there [09:10] I have so many tabs and pages open now I feel surrounded :P [09:11] lol just like me [09:12] not working on pages today but on multiple cli [09:12] sjoe [09:18] wb Jacques_Stry [09:18] i thought you were load shed [09:23] Was disconnected while telkom was working on the line [09:23] new dsl line up! [09:23] yay [09:23] see 2 weeks wasnt too bad [09:24] haha but the telephone guys messed up the filter connection on switchboard... [09:24] so have to wait for him to come fix [09:24] ai! [09:25] if i had RJ11's on me would have done myself [09:36] oi [09:36] bb [09:37] My phone - not gonna be in office allot today :-) [09:37] np [09:42] gotta go, chat later [09:58] Wanted to get a ubuntu mouse - shipping too expensive [09:58] eish [09:59] Ups wil cost 350 without custom taxes. [10:00] So mouse will cost R700-750 [10:00] how much does customs add on [10:01] that ups is cheaper than a ups battery here [10:04] Haha customs should be about R80 [10:19] wb Padroni sorted? [10:19] hi Kilos [10:19] Win is still slow but better [10:19] spend the better part of 1Gb data on update/upgrade Kali [10:19] what is this kali thing [10:20] Linux [10:20] or rather, the pentester / hacker's linux [10:20] ah [10:20] it's a linux distro with all the best hacktools built in [10:20] sjoe [10:21] https://www.kali.org/ [10:21] go look [10:21] ok [10:22] there are other tools as well though [10:22] not part of kali [10:22] that I use [10:22] like a hardware searchengine [10:22] which returns online devices as results [10:22] for example [10:23] are you a security engineer? [10:23] sjoe [10:23] I can search for a specific brand of D-Link router, currently online in South Africa [10:23] Then I can run login attempts on those till I get access [10:23] find a 157 and send it here [10:23] From there... [10:23] some printers for example [10:24] store everything scanned on them [10:24] in memory [10:24] and you can see that? [10:24] So I can access that as well by searching for that specific brand of printer [10:24] yes dude [10:24] wow [10:24] im too old to be a dude [10:24] you know how many security cameras I have dicked around with? [10:24] pan/zoom and generally just freak the people out? [10:25] sjoe [10:25] I hacked a guy's Teevo last year and copied saved movies from him [10:25] Some Gordon Ramsey series as well [10:25] you naughty [10:25] Teevo is like a PVR thing from the states [10:25] no [10:25] I am not [10:26] I search for online devices [10:26] yeah it sounds like you pretty much are [10:26] and use the default login [10:26] if the default login works [10:26] i did not break in, I logged in [10:26] interesting [10:26] grey area, i know [10:26] but still [10:26] lol [10:26] ok if thats how you want to spin it [10:26] lol [10:26] I don't hack. I look. [10:27] i think you are naughty [10:27] * Padroni goes and stands in the corner [10:27] need some sjambok [10:27] lol [10:27] let's not get kinky now [10:27] to early for that [10:28] see already after a month or two you have mellowed some [10:28] mellowed some? [10:28] ya it was you that said you not a people person wasnt it [10:29] I still am not [10:29] I am a keyboard person though [10:29] you will mellow [10:29] but still find it hard to mix with normal peeps that dont understand your way of thinking [10:30] yeah - well [10:30] my job has made me paranoid [10:30] or rather, the extra-mural clubs I belong to [10:31] lol [10:35] so what is the conclusion of the meeting last night? [10:35] i think we are all happy with progress made so far this year [10:35] except that we need another meeting in March? [10:35] oh ok [10:36] * Padroni is reminded that he has yet to contribute anything [10:36] and it was requested that everyone a. Join the launchpad group and b. Sign the code of conduct [10:36] haha [10:37] I think I have done both [10:37] not sure [10:37] he cant do that and remain anon [10:37] oh but he can...? [10:37] And a link to the lp group has already been added on the web site (I think) [10:37] sjoe [10:38] https://launchpad.net/~localhosthero [10:38] That's me [10:38]