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tumbleweedbdmurray: sure, that's probably simple enough05:19
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pittiGood morning06:31
dokopitti, test mess ...06:39
pittidoko: yup, on it06:41
dokothanks06:42
pittidoko: we have a few actual regressions (linux, click, etc.); I'll wave through gcc etc. after the beta freeze06:42
dokojamespage, good morning07:09
infinitypitti: The linux failure isn't a regression, it can be badtested.  I'll do that.07:25
pittiinfinity: right, thanks; I talked about badtest'ing it with Laney yesterday, and he agreed too07:26
pittiinfinity: I meant a regression in the britney sense, in that it's not just a CI glitch (it's not a regression in the actual kernel, just new tests)07:27
infinitypitti: Right.  badtest committed now.07:27
infinitycjwatson: Seems to be some version confusion between series' ... vivid's update_excuses is talking about linux_3.16 (utopic's version).  Fallout from integrating SRU britney?07:29
flexiondotorgWould it be possible to add powerpc sub-architectures, much like arm+xx and the old amd64+mac builds?07:51
ochosiev: hi! i saw that you originally wrote the ubiquity panel a few years back and i have a question related to the struts it sets, do you still recall that part?07:51
flexiondotorgI don't want to do this for 15.04, bit would be interested for 15.10.07:51
flexiondotorgThe reason being Ubuntu MATE has a vibrant (and growing) PowerPC user community. I'd particularly like to add supprt for Amiga X500 and X1000 architectures, which as far as I understand require a slightly different initial ram disk to iBooks, Powermacs etc.07:53
flexiondotorgcjwatson, ^^^^^^ Thoughts?07:53
tumbleweedLaney: chmod -R g+w /home/groups/ubuntu-dev/htdocs/ubuntu-sponsorships on alioth, please07:57
dholbachgood morning08:11
infinityflexiondotorg: I'd rather work with people to figure out why they need a different initrd and consolidate.08:39
infinityflexiondotorg: Can you figure out what level of "different" is required?08:39
flexiondotorginfinity, Agreed.08:39
flexiondotorginfinity, If there is a willingness to support the hardware. I can do the leg work 😃08:39
infinityflexiondotorg: Or ask someone who knows to talk to me about it?08:39
flexiondotorginfinity, OK.08:39
flexiondotorgThanks.08:39
infinityflexiondotorg: All my PPC kit is IBM and very, very, very ancient Apple, so most of my non-server PPC work is blind, but I'm happy to make it go with help.08:40
flexiondotorginfinity, At some point I'd like to get PPC64 builgs going for POWER 8.08:41
flexiondotorgMATE with X2go is a platform IBM are pushing for remote terminal server solutions.08:41
flexiondotorgIn 15.10 we are going to get Ubuntu MATE fully X2go ready.08:42
flexiondotorgIBM sponsor the X2go gatherings.08:42
flexiondotorgI talking with a vendor to get sometime of POWER 8 servers for testing.08:42
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Laneytumbleweed: oho!09:05
Laneywhy is that even owned by me?09:06
pittihm, launchpad.net seems AWOL from here; is that just me?09:07
pittiah, as usual asking helps, it just came back09:07
wgrantOne of the DCs was AWOL.09:08
* apw has the feeling it was "bigger" than a DC09:13
evochosi: unfortunately not - that was years and two jobs ago09:27
tumbleweedbdmurray: done09:30
tumbleweedLaney: ta09:30
ochosiev: very understandable :) thanks for your answer anyway!09:38
mlankhorstcan someone look at the xorg-server 1.17 ffe?09:39
cjwatsoninfinity: best ask jibel about that, I think, since it's in the autopkgtest layer10:17
infinityjibel: Any idea why update_excuses for vivid seems to list tests for linux_3.16 instead of linux_3.18?10:34
jibelinfinity, no idea, but I'll have a look.10:36
infinityjibel: As a hint, the version it's talking about (3.16.0-23.31) is from utopic-release, rather than what I'd expect, which would be vivid-proposed.10:40
infinityjibel: Though the actual tests linked are vivid's.  So, whee.10:41
cjwatsonThe links are hardcoded by britney.py.10:41
cjwatsonThey don't have very much to do with the versions that get passed back by adt-britney :)10:42
infinityFair enough.10:42
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flexiondotorgI have been maintaining ubuntu-mate-settings here - lp:~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-settings12:26
flexiondotorgBut there is now also - lp:ubuntu/ubuntu-mate-settings12:27
flexiondotorgWhat is the correct way for me to merge with lp:ubuntu/ubuntu-mate-settings12:27
flexiondotorgOr request a merge with?12:27
cjwatsonlp:ubuntu/ubuntu-mate-settings is auto-imported; you can just ignore it if you prefer12:28
flexiondotorgcjwatson, Auto imported from where?12:29
cjwatsonThe archive12:30
flexiondotorgShould I just file needs-packaging bugs to create a new version?12:30
cjwatsonWhat?  No.12:30
cjwatsonneeds-packaging is for entirely new versions.12:30
flexiondotorgSo, if I've got a new version of the package what is the process for requesting an update?12:31
cjwatsonYou can subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to ask for new uploads.12:31
cjwatsonBut you should be working to get upload privileges yourself.12:31
cjwatsonIt's not sustainable to have an entire flavour maintained solely through sponsorship.12:31
flexiondotorgcjwatson, I have been. But I was told I needed to do work with sponsors before that process can start.12:32
cjwatsonMy comment above was confusing, sorry.  What I meant to say was that needs-packaging is for entirely new *packages* - ones not in the archive at all.12:32
cjwatsonCertainly.12:32
cjwatsonAnyway, you can request updates by subscribing ubuntu-sponsors or working directly with sponsors in the same way you've been doing.12:32
cjwatsonlp:ubuntu/ubuntu-mate-settings probably has unhelpful history that has nothing in common with your existing branch.  I'd ignore it.12:33
cjwatsonWe should be able to do better once we have git hosting support.12:33
flexiondotorgcjwatson, Thanks. Understood. Git. Oooh, lovely.12:35
flexiondotorgTrevinho, Please could you take a peek at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/compiz/mate-recommends/+merge/25085512:42
Trevinhoflexiondotorg: ok12:43
flexiondotorgTrevinho, Thanks.12:43
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aeorilGood morning13:31
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rbasakmvo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freeradius/+bug/1187742/comments/11 looks right to me. Do you want to apply it?14:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1187742 in freeradius (Debian) "[patch] upstart job for freeradius" [Unknown,New]14:59
rbasakAs long as we're carrying the upstart delta...15:00
mvorbasak: sure, I take care of it15:03
rbasakThanks!15:04
rbasakmvo: did you mean vivid?15:14
rbasak(freeradius upload)15:14
mvorbasak: *cough* yes15:16
mvorbasak: if you are an archive-admin, please reject15:17
mvorbasak: but I guess we could SRU this fix actually15:17
rbasakmvo: no, I'm not an archive admin. I just spotted the unapproved notice in #ubuntu-release. We could SRU I guess. I'm not sure it's worth it unless people actually want it though.15:18
didrocksmvo: need a reject or want to keep in the SRU queue?15:20
mvodidrocks: please reject15:20
* didrocks flushes15:20
mvodidrocks: even if it gets a SRU it needs a proper version number15:20
mvothanks didrocks!15:20
didrocksmvo: yeah, proper version seems it worths it, yw!15:20
aeorildarkxst now that I have used gnome, I like it better at first blush - do you have any other good bugs I can work on?  That last one was great!15:37
bdmurraytumbleweed: thanks15:40
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Riddellbdmurray: I'm trying to upload release-upgrader but it fails on a test test_sources_list.py", line 161, in test_extras_removal15:54
Riddellbdmurray: this is needed for beta upgrades to work so I could do with it uploaded toot sweet, are you able to take a look and see if you can work out what's wrong?15:54
Riddell#15:55
bdmurrayRiddell: sure, I guess15:55
Riddellbdmurray: also some of the imports in the current version in the archive don't seem to match the bzr repository, are you sure you did a bzr update?15:59
bdmurrayRiddell: gah, it looks like I didn't16:01
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bdmurrayseb128: Do you have a versioning plan in libpwquality needs another SRU?17:40
seb128bdmurray, yeah, 1.1utopic117:42
seb128could have done that for this one17:42
bdmurrayseb128: okay17:44
atlaspainehello18:48
atlaspainewho here is 'jml?'18:48
sarnoldatlaspaine: jml isn't in this channel; /wii jml  will show you if you share any channels in common with him. (I don't have any in common..)18:51
rbasakarges: I know it's not your SRU day, but FYI I just uploaded the SRU for bug 1366174 that we discussed in Austin (finally!). I can't imagine a few days will make a difference now, so please could you review when you can?18:53
ubottubug 1366174 in apache2 (Ubuntu Trusty) "apache2 SEGV with multiple SSL sites" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136617418:53
rbasakarges: it would probably be easiest for you to look at it as you're familiar with the issue already,.18:53
rbasakalexbligh1: ^^18:53
atlaspainewho here is jml?18:54
rbasakalexbligh1: thank you again for your work and your patience. I'm still busy training up teammates so we'll be able to process these without getting blocked on me.18:54
rbasakalexbligh1: although based on the quality of this patch, I don't feel that I'll need to review your patches any more :)18:54
atlaspainehello all humans!19:12
atlaspaineand computers19:12
atlaspaineI am requesting assistance for a terminal 'add-on' called "undistract-me"19:12
atlaspaineAnyone familiar with  it? I was told to 'ping on Freenode' and know not what it mean.19:13
atlaspaineRequesting system guidance.19:13
bdmurrayhallyn: is the vd2 upload in the lucid SRU queue still relevant?19:18
atlaspaineunknown @bdmurray19:18
hallynbdmurray: vd2?19:22
hallynvde?19:22
* hallyn looking19:22
bdmurrayvde2 actually19:23
hallynoh i see :)19:23
hallynbdmurray: yeah i think it is19:24
bdmurrayokay19:24
bdmurrayhallyn: oh then, the version number will need to be changed19:28
hallynoh i see.  that exist sin precise19:33
hallynon it19:33
hallyntricky one.  should it be 2.2.3-3ubuntu1~12.0.4.1 ?19:35
hallynheh19:35
hallyn2.2.3-3ubuntu1~10.0.4.119:35
hallyn2.2.3-3ubuntu1~10.04.1  <sheesh>19:35
hallynbdmurray: uploaded19:39
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darkxstaeoril, bug 142217620:01
ubottubug 1422176 in Ubuntu GNOME "Missing icon for new bug report" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142217620:01
darkxstaeoril, and bug 142534920:49
ubottubug 1425349 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Don't pass configure events on the composite overlay window to MetaStackTracker (aka: STACK_OP_RAISE_ABOVE: window not in stack)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142534920:49
aeorildarkxst ok, thanks - You'll make a GNOMEer of me yet ... :)20:51
flexiondotorgcyphermox, cjwatson, Laney, infinity, stokachu, pitti - Thank you! https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-vivid-beta1/21:18
flexiondotorgdidrocks and dholbach are not onlin, but thanks to them too.21:18
cjwatsonyw21:19
cjwatsongood luck with ongoing development :)21:19
cyphermoxflexiondotorg: awesome!21:31
stokachuflexiondotorg: cool!21:32
flexiondotorg😃21:32
flexiondotorgcyphermox, Thanks man.21:33
flexiondotorgReally, thank you!21:33
stokachui like that achievement unlocked21:33
stokachu:)21:33
hallynslangasek: man that bugproxy on bug 1358835 is annoying21:34
ubottubug 1358835 in numactl (Ubuntu Trusty) "numa_node_of_cpu() returns warning when cpu_index > 79" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135883521:34
flexiondotorgSomeone go a jab distrowatch. Even with Marks personal assurance Canonical weren't going to sue Ubuntu MATE or anyone covering them they point blank refused to list the distro ;-/21:34
stokachuwow really...21:35
stokachuthey list every distro under the sun21:35
flexiondotorgI know.21:35
stokachuwish i could help i dont know anyone at distrowatch :(21:36
slangasekhallyn: heh sorry21:36
dobeydistrowatch is so irrelevant now anyway21:45
infinitydobey: Was it ever not?21:50
infinitydobey: At least, the "popularity" thing always was just a fanboy challenge, not a metric.21:50
dobeyinfinity: it was slightly more useful 10-15 years ago.21:51
dobeyyeah, the popularity thing was always completely worthless21:51
simosxthere are people that do not understand what the stats at distrowatch represent. A CS lecturer at a local uni recommended Mint "because distrowatch"...21:54
simosxprobably an excuse, really.21:55
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flexiondotorgAgree with you say about Distrowatch. But, for a new dstro it is about discovery.22:05

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