[05:19] <tumbleweed> bdmurray: sure, that's probably simple enough
[06:31] <pitti> Good morning
[06:39] <doko> pitti, test mess ...
[06:41] <pitti> doko: yup, on it
[06:42] <doko> thanks
[06:42] <pitti> doko: we have a few actual regressions (linux, click, etc.); I'll wave through gcc etc. after the beta freeze
[07:09] <doko> jamespage, good morning
[07:25] <infinity> pitti: The linux failure isn't a regression, it can be badtested.  I'll do that.
[07:26] <pitti> infinity: right, thanks; I talked about badtest'ing it with Laney yesterday, and he agreed too
[07:27] <pitti> infinity: I meant a regression in the britney sense, in that it's not just a CI glitch (it's not a regression in the actual kernel, just new tests)
[07:27] <infinity> pitti: Right.  badtest committed now.
[07:29] <infinity> cjwatson: Seems to be some version confusion between series' ... vivid's update_excuses is talking about linux_3.16 (utopic's version).  Fallout from integrating SRU britney?
[07:51] <flexiondotorg> Would it be possible to add powerpc sub-architectures, much like arm+xx and the old amd64+mac builds?
[07:51] <ochosi> ev: hi! i saw that you originally wrote the ubiquity panel a few years back and i have a question related to the struts it sets, do you still recall that part?
[07:51] <flexiondotorg> I don't want to do this for 15.04, bit would be interested for 15.10.
[07:53] <flexiondotorg> The reason being Ubuntu MATE has a vibrant (and growing) PowerPC user community. I'd particularly like to add supprt for Amiga X500 and X1000 architectures, which as far as I understand require a slightly different initial ram disk to iBooks, Powermacs etc.
[07:53] <flexiondotorg> cjwatson, ^^^^^^ Thoughts?
[07:57] <tumbleweed> Laney: chmod -R g+w /home/groups/ubuntu-dev/htdocs/ubuntu-sponsorships on alioth, please
[08:11] <dholbach> good morning
[08:39] <infinity> flexiondotorg: I'd rather work with people to figure out why they need a different initrd and consolidate.
[08:39] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Can you figure out what level of "different" is required?
[08:39] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Agreed.
[08:39] <flexiondotorg> infinity, If there is a willingness to support the hardware. I can do the leg work 😃
[08:39] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Or ask someone who knows to talk to me about it?
[08:39] <flexiondotorg> infinity, OK.
[08:39] <flexiondotorg> Thanks.
[08:40] <infinity> flexiondotorg: All my PPC kit is IBM and very, very, very ancient Apple, so most of my non-server PPC work is blind, but I'm happy to make it go with help.
[08:41] <flexiondotorg> infinity, At some point I'd like to get PPC64 builgs going for POWER 8.
[08:41] <flexiondotorg> MATE with X2go is a platform IBM are pushing for remote terminal server solutions.
[08:42] <flexiondotorg> In 15.10 we are going to get Ubuntu MATE fully X2go ready.
[08:42] <flexiondotorg> IBM sponsor the X2go gatherings.
[08:42] <flexiondotorg> I talking with a vendor to get sometime of POWER 8 servers for testing.
[09:05] <Laney> tumbleweed: oho!
[09:06] <Laney> why is that even owned by me?
[09:07] <pitti> hm, launchpad.net seems AWOL from here; is that just me?
[09:07] <pitti> ah, as usual asking helps, it just came back
[09:08] <wgrant> One of the DCs was AWOL.
[09:13]  * apw has the feeling it was "bigger" than a DC
[09:27] <ev> ochosi: unfortunately not - that was years and two jobs ago
[09:30] <tumbleweed> bdmurray: done
[09:30] <tumbleweed> Laney: ta
[09:38] <ochosi> ev: very understandable :) thanks for your answer anyway!
[09:39] <mlankhorst> can someone look at the xorg-server 1.17 ffe?
[10:17] <cjwatson> infinity: best ask jibel about that, I think, since it's in the autopkgtest layer
[10:34] <infinity> jibel: Any idea why update_excuses for vivid seems to list tests for linux_3.16 instead of linux_3.18?
[10:36] <jibel> infinity, no idea, but I'll have a look.
[10:40] <infinity> jibel: As a hint, the version it's talking about (3.16.0-23.31) is from utopic-release, rather than what I'd expect, which would be vivid-proposed.
[10:41] <infinity> jibel: Though the actual tests linked are vivid's.  So, whee.
[10:41] <cjwatson> The links are hardcoded by britney.py.
[10:42] <cjwatson> They don't have very much to do with the versions that get passed back by adt-britney :)
[10:42] <infinity> Fair enough.
[12:26] <flexiondotorg> I have been maintaining ubuntu-mate-settings here - lp:~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-settings
[12:27] <flexiondotorg> But there is now also - lp:ubuntu/ubuntu-mate-settings
[12:27] <flexiondotorg> What is the correct way for me to merge with lp:ubuntu/ubuntu-mate-settings
[12:27] <flexiondotorg> Or request a merge with?
[12:28] <cjwatson> lp:ubuntu/ubuntu-mate-settings is auto-imported; you can just ignore it if you prefer
[12:29] <flexiondotorg> cjwatson, Auto imported from where?
[12:30] <cjwatson> The archive
[12:30] <flexiondotorg> Should I just file needs-packaging bugs to create a new version?
[12:30] <cjwatson> What?  No.
[12:30] <cjwatson> needs-packaging is for entirely new versions.
[12:31] <flexiondotorg> So, if I've got a new version of the package what is the process for requesting an update?
[12:31] <cjwatson> You can subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to ask for new uploads.
[12:31] <cjwatson> But you should be working to get upload privileges yourself.
[12:31] <cjwatson> It's not sustainable to have an entire flavour maintained solely through sponsorship.
[12:32] <flexiondotorg> cjwatson, I have been. But I was told I needed to do work with sponsors before that process can start.
[12:32] <cjwatson> My comment above was confusing, sorry.  What I meant to say was that needs-packaging is for entirely new *packages* - ones not in the archive at all.
[12:32] <cjwatson> Certainly.
[12:32] <cjwatson> Anyway, you can request updates by subscribing ubuntu-sponsors or working directly with sponsors in the same way you've been doing.
[12:33] <cjwatson> lp:ubuntu/ubuntu-mate-settings probably has unhelpful history that has nothing in common with your existing branch.  I'd ignore it.
[12:33] <cjwatson> We should be able to do better once we have git hosting support.
[12:35] <flexiondotorg> cjwatson, Thanks. Understood. Git. Oooh, lovely.
[12:42] <flexiondotorg> Trevinho, Please could you take a peek at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/compiz/mate-recommends/+merge/250855
[12:43] <Trevinho> flexiondotorg: ok
[12:43] <flexiondotorg> Trevinho, Thanks.
[13:31] <aeoril> Good morning
[14:59] <rbasak> mvo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freeradius/+bug/1187742/comments/11 looks right to me. Do you want to apply it?
[15:00] <rbasak> As long as we're carrying the upstart delta...
[15:03] <mvo> rbasak: sure, I take care of it
[15:04] <rbasak> Thanks!
[15:14] <rbasak> mvo: did you mean vivid?
[15:14] <rbasak> (freeradius upload)
[15:16] <mvo> rbasak: *cough* yes
[15:17] <mvo> rbasak: if you are an archive-admin, please reject
[15:17] <mvo> rbasak: but I guess we could SRU this fix actually
[15:18] <rbasak> mvo: no, I'm not an archive admin. I just spotted the unapproved notice in #ubuntu-release. We could SRU I guess. I'm not sure it's worth it unless people actually want it though.
[15:20] <didrocks> mvo: need a reject or want to keep in the SRU queue?
[15:20] <mvo> didrocks: please reject
[15:20]  * didrocks flushes
[15:20] <mvo> didrocks: even if it gets a SRU it needs a proper version number
[15:20] <mvo> thanks didrocks!
[15:20] <didrocks> mvo: yeah, proper version seems it worths it, yw!
[15:37] <aeoril> darkxst now that I have used gnome, I like it better at first blush - do you have any other good bugs I can work on?  That last one was great!
[15:40] <bdmurray> tumbleweed: thanks
[15:54] <Riddell> bdmurray: I'm trying to upload release-upgrader but it fails on a test test_sources_list.py", line 161, in test_extras_removal
[15:54] <Riddell> bdmurray: this is needed for beta upgrades to work so I could do with it uploaded toot sweet, are you able to take a look and see if you can work out what's wrong?
[15:55] <Riddell> #
[15:55] <bdmurray> Riddell: sure, I guess
[15:59] <Riddell> bdmurray: also some of the imports in the current version in the archive don't seem to match the bzr repository, are you sure you did a bzr update?
[16:01] <bdmurray> Riddell: gah, it looks like I didn't
[17:40] <bdmurray> seb128: Do you have a versioning plan in libpwquality needs another SRU?
[17:42] <seb128> bdmurray, yeah, 1.1utopic1
[17:42] <seb128> could have done that for this one
[17:44] <bdmurray> seb128: okay
[18:48] <atlaspaine> hello
[18:48] <atlaspaine> who here is 'jml?'
[18:51] <sarnold> atlaspaine: jml isn't in this channel; /wii jml  will show you if you share any channels in common with him. (I don't have any in common..)
[18:53] <rbasak> arges: I know it's not your SRU day, but FYI I just uploaded the SRU for bug 1366174 that we discussed in Austin (finally!). I can't imagine a few days will make a difference now, so please could you review when you can?
[18:53] <rbasak> arges: it would probably be easiest for you to look at it as you're familiar with the issue already,.
[18:53] <rbasak> alexbligh1: ^^
[18:54] <atlaspaine> who here is jml?
[18:54] <rbasak> alexbligh1: thank you again for your work and your patience. I'm still busy training up teammates so we'll be able to process these without getting blocked on me.
[18:54] <rbasak> alexbligh1: although based on the quality of this patch, I don't feel that I'll need to review your patches any more :)
[19:12] <atlaspaine> hello all humans!
[19:12] <atlaspaine> and computers
[19:12] <atlaspaine> I am requesting assistance for a terminal 'add-on' called "undistract-me"
[19:13] <atlaspaine> Anyone familiar with  it? I was told to 'ping on Freenode' and know not what it mean.
[19:13] <atlaspaine> Requesting system guidance.
[19:18] <bdmurray> hallyn: is the vd2 upload in the lucid SRU queue still relevant?
[19:18] <atlaspaine> unknown @bdmurray
[19:22] <hallyn> bdmurray: vd2?
[19:22] <hallyn> vde?
[19:22]  * hallyn looking
[19:23] <bdmurray> vde2 actually
[19:23] <hallyn> oh i see :)
[19:24] <hallyn> bdmurray: yeah i think it is
[19:24] <bdmurray> okay
[19:28] <bdmurray> hallyn: oh then, the version number will need to be changed
[19:33] <hallyn> oh i see.  that exist sin precise
[19:33] <hallyn> on it
[19:35] <hallyn> tricky one.  should it be 2.2.3-3ubuntu1~12.0.4.1 ?
[19:35] <hallyn> heh
[19:35] <hallyn> 2.2.3-3ubuntu1~10.0.4.1
[19:35] <hallyn> 2.2.3-3ubuntu1~10.04.1  <sheesh>
[19:39] <hallyn> bdmurray: uploaded
[20:01] <darkxst> aeoril, bug 1422176
[20:49] <darkxst> aeoril, and bug 1425349
[20:51] <aeoril> darkxst ok, thanks - You'll make a GNOMEer of me yet ... :)
[21:18] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, cjwatson, Laney, infinity, stokachu, pitti - Thank you! https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-vivid-beta1/
[21:18] <flexiondotorg> didrocks and dholbach are not onlin, but thanks to them too.
[21:19] <cjwatson> yw
[21:19] <cjwatson> good luck with ongoing development :)
[21:31] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: awesome!
[21:32] <stokachu> flexiondotorg: cool!
[21:32] <flexiondotorg> 😃
[21:33] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Thanks man.
[21:33] <flexiondotorg> Really, thank you!
[21:33] <stokachu> i like that achievement unlocked
[21:33] <stokachu> :)
[21:34] <hallyn> slangasek: man that bugproxy on bug 1358835 is annoying
[21:34] <flexiondotorg> Someone go a jab distrowatch. Even with Marks personal assurance Canonical weren't going to sue Ubuntu MATE or anyone covering them they point blank refused to list the distro ;-/
[21:35] <stokachu> wow really...
[21:35] <stokachu> they list every distro under the sun
[21:35] <flexiondotorg> I know.
[21:36] <stokachu> wish i could help i dont know anyone at distrowatch :(
[21:36] <slangasek> hallyn: heh sorry
[21:45] <dobey> distrowatch is so irrelevant now anyway
[21:50] <infinity> dobey: Was it ever not?
[21:50] <infinity> dobey: At least, the "popularity" thing always was just a fanboy challenge, not a metric.
[21:51] <dobey> infinity: it was slightly more useful 10-15 years ago.
[21:51] <dobey> yeah, the popularity thing was always completely worthless
[21:54] <simosx> there are people that do not understand what the stats at distrowatch represent. A CS lecturer at a local uni recommended Mint "because distrowatch"...
[21:55] <simosx> probably an excuse, really.
[22:05] <flexiondotorg> Agree with you say about Distrowatch. But, for a new dstro it is about discovery.