[01:23] <sak> I really hope we are able to release 15.04 this cycle. It would be a shame if not based on all the effort that was put into it
[02:26] <bluesabre> infinity: we have a solution for our complete dialog opening offscreen, https://code.launchpad.net/~bluesabre/ubiquity/fix_1425690/+merge/251030
[02:27] <bluesabre> I was able to test it by swapping out the code and restarting ubiquity, and continuing with a successful installation
[02:27] <bluesabre> if at all possible, can we land this fix tonight
[02:27] <bluesabre> (or any other release-team, ubiquity folks) :)
[07:10] <ypwong> bdmurray, could you help with the sru for ubuntukylin-theme in bug 1415792, it's needed by our oem project, thanks
[07:34] <elfy> ypwong: hey - are you going to be in a position to get your vivid beta's marked ready soon?
[07:34] <elfy> darkxst: same :)
[07:34] <ypwong> elfy, let me check with the tester
[07:37] <elfy> ypwong: you've got about 10 hours :) just pinging now as I'm afk most of my day
[09:30] <ypwong> elfy, ubuntu kylin is ready now
[09:34] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Not sure if I need to tell you this? Ubuntu MATE on i386, amd64 and powerpc are ready.
[09:48] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, congrats, thats a fair effort to get everything ready in a few days of your first buils
[09:48] <darkxst> builds
[09:48] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, Thanks 😃 Team effort.
[09:54] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, ofc, that is what flavours are all about ;)
[09:59] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, despite the troll wars that happen on the interwebs its just one big happy family of different DEs ;)
[10:00] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, It totally is. The Xubuntu team have been great for example 😃
[10:06] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, I have servers hosted by lubuntu, but this is probably getting a little off topic for this channel, Welcome to the family (and your team ofc)
[12:37] <elfy> Riddell: hi there - how's your beta stuff looking? I see you've got bunches of tests done - but not looked at them other than that :)
[12:39] <Riddell> elfy: all good but I noticed upgrade hasn't been added to the beta 1 testing and I don'ty think anyone has tested that so I was about to
[12:39] <Riddell> elfy: did you have any expected ETA for release?
[12:41] <elfy> Riddell: well I'm home for lunch, back later and am same tz as Laney - so I would suspect late afternoon/evening UTC
[12:42] <Laney> elfy: I probably disappear around 6pm so would be looking to start pres butan about 5 if possiblee
[12:42] <elfy> Laney: right
[12:42] <elfy> well I will be driving still then
[12:43] <elfy> I'll mark xubuntu ready - we know there's an issues with Install, but installiing from livesession works correctly
[12:43] <Laney> was going to say
[12:43] <Laney> I guess you can release note that issue
[12:43] <elfy> yep - that's all in hand
[12:43] <Laney> is studio the same?
[12:44] <elfy> studio have the same install issue I smoketested that this morning
[12:44] <elfy> zequence: what's the state of play with your beta's ?
[12:44] <Riddell> Kubuntu marked as ready
[12:45] <elfy> Riddell: thanks
[12:45] <Laney> cool beans
[12:45] <elfy> Laney: if you ping me in here to say go - I'll get the release announcement posted
[12:46] <Riddell> our release page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Beta1/Kubuntu
[12:46] <elfy> I might possibly be back ealrier than I anticipate - but I'm an hour behind already :|
[12:46] <elfy> Riddell: thanks :)
[12:48] <elfy> wxl: release notes? :)
[12:50] <Mirv> Laney: we'd be ready regarding bug #1418060 on our side. not hurry otherwise with freeze and all, but if possible getting the fix included in tomorrow morning's image would be beneficial.
[12:51] <tjaalton> could someone ack libdrm from proposed to vivid, it's under MRE anyway
[12:53] <tjaalton> and missed FF because debian doesn't process the new queue too actively
[12:57] <cjwatson> tjaalton: it's not about MRE, it's about the archive currently being frozen for image prep
[12:57] <cjwatson> since beta 1 is today
[12:58] <tjaalton> ahh, yeah that's fine then :)
[14:25] <flexiondotorg> I see the oversize threshold for the Ubuntu MATE iso images is 703MB. Any chance that could be change to 1GB?
[14:26] <cjwatson> I think that's just a bug in the error message
[14:26] <cjwatson> Note your images are over 1GiB anyway
[14:26] <flexiondotorg> cjwatson, Yes, but I am going to try and get the image to 1GB for Beta2.
[14:27] <flexiondotorg> Other flavours appear to have a 1GB threshold.
[14:27] <cjwatson> Yeah, you already do
[14:27] <cjwatson> It's just the error that's buggy
[14:27] <flexiondotorg> Oh.
[14:27] <cjwatson> I'll fix it in a moment
[14:28] <flexiondotorg> cjwatson, Thanks.
[14:30] <cjwatson> flexiondotorg: fixed, though won't update the existing web pages
[14:30] <flexiondotorg> Thanks.
[15:19] <mvo> please reject my freeradius upload to utopic-proposed
[15:19] <mvo> (and sorry for the noise)
[15:26] <zequence> elfy: I'm testing now
[15:36] <bdmurray> ypwong: what kind of help do you need? its not clear to me from the bug
[15:43] <ypwong> bdmurray, we're working on sru the package to trusty, does it need sru team approval?
[15:44] <bdmurray> ypwong: I don't see anything in the Trusty SRU queue yet for ubuntuklyin-theme. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=1
[15:48] <ypwong> bdmurray, what went wrong? the package should have already been uploaded
[15:49] <bdmurray> ypwong: oh, is it this? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntukylin-theme/1.0.2
[15:49] <ypwong> bdmurray, yes it is
[15:51] <bdmurray> ypwong: okay, somehow the bug wasn't updated with testing information. You can read about it here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/#Verification
[15:55] <ypwong> bdmurray, thanks, will get it tested tomorrow
[15:56] <bdmurray> ypwong: okay, we do't release packages to -updates on Friday, so if it is tested tomorrow we can release it on Monday then
[15:57] <ypwong> bdmurray, that's good enough, but why no updates on friday?
[15:57] <bdmurray> ypwong: because if things go horribly wrong nobody should be working on Saturday to fix it
[15:58] <ypwong> I see
[16:14] <xnox> Laney: or other release people -> please unblock upstart package, it has privilege escalation security fix.
[16:15] <Laney> xnox: freeze will be lifted momentarily
[16:15] <xnox> Laney: ah, cool.
[16:15] <Laney> zequence: progress?
[16:19] <zequence> Laney: I'm done
[16:19] <Laney> great, thanks
[16:19] <zequence> Marking ready
[16:19] <Laney> rcj / utlemming: cloud images looking okay?
[16:20] <rcj> Laney, Cloud images look good
[16:21] <Laney> thumbs up
[16:21] <Laney> the freeze... it's getting warm...
[16:34] <Riddell> elfy, Laney: any plans to announce beta in the next 30 mins? (I'm going out and will be a few hours is all)
[16:34] <Laney> Riddell: No, won't be publishing for an hour ish
[16:35] <Riddell> ok I'll pop into the office later to finish it
[16:36] <Riddell> release-upgrader still need an update to fix it, hopefully bdmurray is on the case
[16:36] <Laney> I guess consider linking to the bug in your release notes
[16:37] <Riddell> yeah
[16:38] <bdmurray> I am looking at it
[16:41] <bdmurray> Riddell: the tests passed for me
[16:41] <Riddell> bdmurray: great, go ahead and upload
[16:41] <Riddell> maybe they didn't like the half upgraded utopic machine I'm running them on
[17:12] <elfy> Laney: I see that everyone's marked ready
[17:12] <Laney> indeed
[17:14] <Laney> starting work on publishing in 5 minutes
[17:15] <elfy> Laney: ok
[17:54] <rcj> Laney, should I start cloud publication for beta1?
[17:54] <Laney> rcj: At your leisure, go for it
[18:05] <elfy> Laney: I assume that the images will be at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/flavour/releases/vivid/beta-1 ?
[18:06] <Laney> yep
[18:06] <elfy> ta
[18:08] <elfy> cloud at http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/vivid/beta-1/
[18:10]  * Laney stabs cron.source
[18:14] <Laney> I'll sync without that, it can catch up later
[18:14] <Laney> elfy: should start appearing soon
[18:15] <elfy> ok - good to announce?
[18:15] <Laney> I'd wait a bit until you see them
[18:15] <elfy> ok - I'll go off and find out what's up with the teapot then
[18:15] <Laney> the torrents take a little while to hash too, up to you if you want to wait for those to start working
[18:16] <elfy> okey doke
[18:16] <Laney> you can just whack one in your client and wait for it to start downloading
[18:16] <elfy> yep
[18:17] <elfy> still after release notes from lubuntu and studio
[18:21] <Laney> it's not essential, go without if they don't want to provide them
[18:22] <Laney> guess studio might for the ubiquity thing though
[18:22] <elfy> yep - I expect wxl will want one for lubuntu
[18:22] <Laney> elfy: I'm going to take off - everything should show up in the coming minutes, but if you have any problems get someone to text me
[18:22] <elfy> studio might be waiting for ours
[18:22] <elfy> Laney: ok - thanks for your help :)
[18:23] <Laney> no worries
[18:37] <elfy> rcj: any reason why http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/vivid/beta-1/ just gets a 404 instead of just nothing actually there yet?
[18:39] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Don't know if you need this? https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-vivid-beta1/
[18:41] <elfy> nope - I got your release notes - unless you want ^^ to appear on the announcement?
[18:42] <elfy> flexiondotorg: ^^
[18:42] <flexiondotorg> elfy, You took the notes from the wiki?
[18:42] <elfy> yea
[18:42] <flexiondotorg> Not sure what you do. Do you link to them or reformat them?
[18:42] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Beta1/UbuntuMATE
[18:43] <elfy> just link
[18:43] <flexiondotorg> Then link to https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-vivid-beta1 please 😃
[18:43] <elfy> flexiondotorg: ack
[18:43] <flexiondotorg> Thanks
[18:43] <elfy> we're doing the same this time
[18:49] <elfy> rcj utlemming Odd_Bloke - is the cloud beta1 images definitely supposed to be living at http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/vivid/beta-1/ ?
[18:50] <elfy> wxl - looking to get this announcement out - release notes for you?
[18:58] <rcj> elfy, it will
[18:58] <elfy> rcj thanks :)
[18:59] <elfy> keeps 404ing for me and didn't want to make me look any dafter than I already do by pointing everyone at the wrong place :)
[18:59] <rcj> elfy, I understand.  The cloud images are in the process of being published and the download location you have is correct
[18:59] <elfy> ta :)
[19:14] <stgraber> bdmurray: your unattended-upgrade SRU is making all my containers crash once an hour ;)
[19:14] <bdmurray> stgraber: hunh?
[19:15] <stgraber> you can't set negative nice values in an unprivileged LXC container even if you're root inside it
[19:15] <stgraber> so now every time unattended-upgrade runs (in my case every hour), it crashes on that os.nice call
[19:18] <stgraber> what we've done in other tools (like systemd) is make this non-fatel if the error is EACCES (typical for unprivileged containers) or EPERM (typical for apparmor preventing it)
[19:19] <bdmurray> stgraber: but then wouldn't bug 1422345 still happen?
[19:20] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Where will the Beta 1 release post go?
[19:20] <flexiondotorg> For all the releases.
[19:21] <elfy> ubuntu-devel-announce and ubuntu-release
[19:21] <flexiondotorg> Not web then?
[19:21] <elfy> nope
[19:22] <stgraber> bdmurray: sure, the bug would still happen in this case
[19:23] <stgraber> bdmurray: root in a userns has the same rights as a regular user with regard to process priorities
[19:23] <stgraber> bdmurray: and as a regular user, you can increase the niceness but never decrease it
[19:24] <bdmurray> would it better to first try decreasing and only increase it if decreasing works?
[19:25] <stgraber> yep, that'd be a good trick
[19:25] <stgraber> so -1, if that works then 20, otherwise keep is it is
[19:25] <mlankhorst>  
[19:32] <stgraber> bdmurray: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10434743/
[19:32] <stgraber> bdmurray: that also accounts for the fact that your startup niceness may not be 0
[19:33] <elfy> anyone in here moderator on ubuntu-devel-announce, if so can they moderate my mail please :)
[19:33] <elfy> thanks for everyone's help with this beta
[19:33] <bdmurray> elfy: I am
[19:34] <elfy> awesome - if you could that would be great :)
[19:35] <bdmurray> elfy: done
[19:36] <bdmurray> stgraber: okay, do you want to submit that to mvo upstream or shall I?
[19:36] <stgraber> bdmurray: if you don't mind, go ahead
[19:40] <elfy> bdmurray: thanks :)
[20:31] <kamal> hi, we (the Canonical kernel team) are trying to crank out a high-priority kernel update ... our PPA build just failed on powerpc, due to "No space left on device" ...
[20:31] <kamal> is there any Launchpad hero around who can help fix it?
[20:31] <kamal> https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/7015466
[20:39] <cjwatson> kamal: We can try rescheduling it on sagari.
[20:39] <cjwatson> I can't remember whether that has more disk, but we can find out.
[20:39] <kamal> cjwatson, sounds like a plan, thanks!
[20:39] <kamal> cjwatson, fwiw, this kernel update shouldn't be any bigger than usual, so . . .
[20:40] <cjwatson> kamal: But sagari is already busy with a kernel build.
[20:40] <cjwatson> kamal: I can't look at denneed* directly; only infinity can.
[20:40] <kamal> cjwatson, I think he's not around today
[20:43] <cjwatson> kamal: Right now the best I can offer is to reschedule it on denneed01.  They're the same configuration, but there's an outside chance that denneed02 might have a bit more ddeb junk left around on its filesystem and thus have somewhat less disk.
[20:43] <kamal> cjwatson, yes, that ^^ please :-)
[20:45] <cjwatson> It's building another security update right now, but should be done in five minutes or so.
[20:45] <kamal> cjwatson, that's great, thanks very much
[20:51] <cjwatson> kamal: Building on denneed01 now.  We'll see.
[20:51] <kamal> cjwatson, thanks, I'll keep an eye on it
[21:28] <balloons> stgraber, you about? it seems ubuntu-mate-release team on the tracker is lacking permissions to setup testsuites for there products. Can you double check the perms and ensure they have them?
[21:29] <elfy> balloons stgraber - I have the ability to do so - whether that is because I am release team elsewhere
[22:20]  * wxl sighs
[22:20] <wxl> here at long last
[22:20] <wxl> thanks (honestly, elfy) for releasing without waiting for us
[22:20] <wxl> we don't have the release notes together anyways :)
[22:20] <wxl> (unless someone else did it in my unexpected absence)
[22:21] <elfy> wxl: I asked in #lubuntu
[22:21] <elfy> even if you'd have had an empty page listed on the wiki - I would have assumed it was going to be filled in and used it
[22:21] <elfy> nvm
[22:24] <elfy> wxl: anyway - tried to chase some of you down
[22:24] <wxl> it's ok, elfy. i'm honestly saying thank you for not waiting
[22:24] <elfy> wxl:  perhaps it's time to think of a release team - that's more than you and gilir who wasn't on line
[22:25] <wxl> elfy: i know, i know
[22:25] <elfy> wxl: lol - I took the thanks at face value - just trying to make life a bit easier
[22:25] <elfy> wxl: even if you had someone else who could be authorative on QA - that'd help in future probably
[22:26] <wxl> elfy: i'll get to work on nominating some folks. i'm raising up some people at present.
[22:26] <elfy> looking at this from where *we* are
[22:26] <elfy> we being Xubuntu ofc
[22:28] <elfy> anyway - not something we need to worry about now for a while - we did our bit, other flavours can do it for 15.10 :)
[22:28] <wxl> yep
[22:29] <elfy> and with an extra flavour now :)
[22:29] <wxl> is that MATE?
[22:29] <elfy> yep
[22:29] <wxl> i may take you up on that offer
[22:30] <elfy> welcome :)