[00:01] <RobbyF> sounds good
[00:01] <RobbyF> having video driver issues atm
[00:01] <RobbyF> bit oftopic but what do you guys run for nvidia
[00:01] <RobbyF> (gtx460)
[00:06] <popey> RobbyF: My pc has a GTX 460
[00:06] <mariogrip> I uses nvidia own drivers for my gtx
[00:07] <RobbyF> I keep getting flickeing text
[00:07] <RobbyF> tearing or something
[00:08] <mariogrip> RobbyF can you help me with one thing?
[00:10] <RobbyF> I can try
[00:14] <mariogrip> RobbyF just to make a guide how to build and install it
[00:14] <mariogrip> I will add you on a google doc if that's okey
[00:14] <RobbyF> yup
[00:15] <RobbyF> it's 7pm my time. I wasgonna skip work tomrrow and help out if ic an
[00:16] <mariogrip> That's you choose, i'm online tomorrow to :)
[00:18] <RobbyF> perfect
[00:18] <RobbyF> I'll be on from 8am EST until 4pm EST
[00:18] <mariogrip> Sounds good :)
[00:19] <RobbyF> and most of tonight, I' know you'll be leaving soon
[00:20] <mariogrip> I have 1 week holiday (norwegian winter holiday) btw
[00:21] <mariogrip> also this week
[00:57] <RobbyF> ok
[01:50] <nhaines> mhall119: So I'm using uReddit 2.0 and I find that after I sign in, content isn't displayed anymore.
[02:15] <mhall119> nhaines: hmmm, can you switch to "New" and back?
[02:17] <nhaines> Starting it up again and now it's just spinning.  :)
[02:18] <popey> Ask for your money back! :)
[02:18] <nhaines> I demand my money back!  It was $0.00 but my time is quite valuable.
[02:19] <nhaines> I'll post logs for free but dealing with seting a PIN and turning on developer mode is going to cost.
[02:21] <mhall119> nhaines: no need, just copy it out by hand from the logviewer app :)
[02:21] <nhaines> Now that's more like it!  :)
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/02/next-ubuntu-phone-flash-sale-tomorrow
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> 3rd flash sale :p:p
[05:50] <nhaines> Everyone's so angry about Flash support in Linux, and now everyone's mad at these flash sales.  I just don't understand the world anymore.  :P
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> mad?
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> its too early for these kinda jokes :p
[05:52] <nhaines> lol
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> ive seen alot of contra video's already on touch, but still their sold out every 'flash-sale' :p
[05:53] <nhaines> I had one all weekend.  It was just fine.
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> i think many users expect too much for 169,- of hardware
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> nice one!
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> so does it goe smooth in your opinion?
[05:54] <nhaines> http://i.imgur.com/NV9cJKt.jpg
[05:54] <nhaines> Yeah, it was perfectly smooth.  Just as good as my Nexus 5.
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> nice!
[05:55] <nhaines> I think because the screen's so small, that helps out the GPU a little.  :)
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> i hear rtm got updates to smoothness, does that update apply the Bq also?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> yeah well, i dont like too big screens for a phone anyways
[05:56] <nhaines> I didn't notice anything particular, but I only had the bq for three days.
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> ok nice
[05:57] <nhaines> If I got it after the smoothness update, well, it worked, lol.
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> that pic is you and your kid?
[05:57] <nhaines> Nope, one of the speakers who came by to ask questions.
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> ah
[05:58] <nhaines> I see them there every year and he recognizes me now, so I took a phone photo.  Which I should email to his dad, actually, now that I'm going through the photos for the weekend.
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:58] <nhaines> His talk was on a floating point, decimal computer from 1962 and was fascinating.
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> cool
[05:59] <nhaines> Anyway, we had a bunch of Ubuntu pictogram shirts to raffle off and a couple more to give out ad hoc, and I gave him one.  :P
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> must be nice on such event
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> this is a great turning point for ubuntu
[06:00] <nhaines> It was fun.  Everyone wanted to know about the phones and Snappy Ubuntu Core and the Orange Box that Jorge Castro and Dustin Kirkland brought.
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> snappy is very interesting indeed
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> whats an orange box
[06:01] <nhaines> I think it's 10 Intel NUCs in a box, with the first one running MAAS.
[06:02] <nhaines> http://www.tranquilpcshop.co.uk/ubuntu-orange-box/
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> ah yes i hear of those NUCs thats interesting
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> im planning to open an ubuntu store myself, with laptops/desktops only with LTS and samsung evo 850 pro inside
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> a bit like the system76 guys
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> but then only with ssd inside
[06:04] <nhaines> Oh nice.  :)  System 76 helped with our booth too.  :)
[06:04] <nhaines> http://i.imgur.com/Ap9fDxt.jpg
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> cool
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> where is you
[06:06] <nhaines> I'm in the white, like in the first pic.  ;)
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> ok cool
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> so that organge box is like a mini server with 10 computers you can branch
[06:07] <nhaines> 9, but yes.  (the first orchestrates.)
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> working out of the box? or needs server config first?
[06:07] <nhaines> You wouldn't want to use it in production, but it's perfect for demonstration.
[06:07] <nhaines> It's all self-contained.
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> great idea
[06:07] <nhaines> You can use it for cloud dev work.
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> or ubuntu lan for demo indeed
[06:08] <DonkeyHotei> i'm next to nhaines in that photo
[06:08] <nhaines> Canonical made them for consulting purposes, but people wanted to buy them.
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> unexpecting things gonna happen for ubuntu im sure
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> im curious how many devices Bq planned exactly
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> the only thing we know is 12.000/a minute first flash sale
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> each sale 10min so maybe 360.000 devices?
[06:12] <DonkeyHotei> the thing i hate most while hating these flash sales is the lack of US-usable hardware in them
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> anyway you devs have made a revolutionairy impact on the world for sure!
[06:12] <nhaines> Selling US-usable hardware would mean that they weren't Europe-usable.
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> maybe meizu will have it US ready?
[06:13] <DonkeyHotei> most smartphones today have multi-region radios
[06:13] <nhaines> lotuspsychje: There'll be a US-focused manufacturer announcement in the next 6 months.
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: nice
[06:14] <nhaines> Anyway, the bq Aquaris is a budget phone.  It's not going to have tons of radios in it.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: i remember some brands not supporting arabic regio, cant recall wich one
[06:14] <nhaines> Although it does have an FM radio.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:15] <nhaines> Also, most smartphones don't have globalband radios.
[06:15] <DonkeyHotei> €169 is more than a moto g
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: for a budget phone with ubuntu, bq did a good thing
[06:15] <nhaines> That's because Google subsidizes the hardware costs along with the carriers.
[06:16] <DonkeyHotei> what about that australian phone that competes with the moto g?
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: is the snappy core also for smartphones?
[06:17] <nhaines> No, but it will be some day.  Probably once manufacturers start producing Ubuntu-compatible phones.
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> that would be interesting
[06:18] <DonkeyHotei> the non-removable battery is such an apple thing to do
[06:18] <nhaines> lotuspsychje: talk about the perfect dev environment everywhere.  :)
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: :p
[06:21] <nhaines> lotuspsychje: most of the snappy packages are embedded system stuff.  So you could use an Ubuntu phone to power all kinds of things.
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> im sure many things will happen from here
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> more touch apps created
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> etc
[06:24] <nhaines> I'll bet the Ubuntu SDK makes for some beautiful interfaces on top of snappy.
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> :p
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> im still running channel=devel on my nexus7
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> not sure wich image would run best
[06:27] <nhaines> ubuntu-rtm/14.09
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> but ive read that the rtm update is only for n4 and phones
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> would that not freeze my n7?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> or is that rtm 14.09 the stable one
[06:30] <nhaines> rtm is the only thing anyone's been working on for the past four months.
[06:30] <nhaines> And no one's worked on the tablet interface since last March.
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> nice, ill try it so rtm receives updates also like devel right
[06:31] <nhaines> Everything receives updates.
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:31] <nhaines> foo-proposed receives daily updates of whatever's been commited, and foo receives special, promotoed foo-proposed updates.
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> ill try the rtm 14.09 later on my n7
[06:33] <nhaines> If it doesn't work I'll give you your money back!
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> loll
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: http://askubuntu.com/questions/556755/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-rtm-14-09-on-nexus-7-flo
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> this would be the way to go right
[07:06] <anpok> how can i switch the audio output to an attached USB device? i.e. usb headphone .. or DAC
[07:07] <anpok> do we need a setting inside the gui... or can I make pulse audio always select the last plugged audio device?
[07:54] <nhaines> dpm: good morning!
[07:54] <dpm> hey, good morning nhaines
[07:54] <dpm> I hear you the ubucon and scale were great :)
[07:55] <dpm> s/hear you/hear/
[07:55] <nhaines> It definitely was a huge success!  :)
[07:55] <dpm> awesome, thanks so much for making it happen
[07:56] <nhaines> Was a nice collaboration from the community.  :)
[07:57] <nhaines> aq gave me his bq phone for the weekend.
[07:57] <dpm> yeah, so said mhall119 :)
[07:57] <dpm> cool
[07:58] <nhaines> http://i.imgur.com/Ap9fDxt.jpg
[08:00] <jgdx> yehaw, I got one
[08:00] <nhaines> jgdx: congrats!
[08:01] <jgdx> nhaines, thanks! :)
[08:01] <jgdx> it's gunna be sweet having a phone that's not flashed/wiped/whatnot every n days
[08:11] <dholbach> good morning
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed --bootstrap
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> 2015/02/26 10:14:53 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> 2015/02/26 10:14:53 Device is |flo|
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> 2015/02/26 10:14:53 Flashing version 195 from ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed channel and server https://system-image.ubuntu.com to device flo
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: installing :p
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: worked like a charm mate tnx, ubuntu 14.10 (r195) showing
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> for those who recently joined:
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/02/next-ubuntu-phone-flash-sale-tomorrow
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu phone 3rd flash sale
[09:51] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy For Pete’s Sake Day! :-D
[09:53] <nhaines> lotuspsychje: yay!  \o/
[09:54] <nhaines> I don't recommend -proposed unless you're ready to file lots of bug reports.  But good luck with it!
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: the 14.09 channel wasnt there
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: had the same issue like here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/556755/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-rtm-14-09-on-nexus-7-flo
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: how do you think that come?
[09:57] <nhaines> No idea!  Unless they're neglecting flo for the phones right now.
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: yeah maybe thats why iv readed rtm supports only nexus4 and phones for now?
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> or the new rtm update i mean
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> anyway rtm proposed is already smoother then =devel :p
[09:59] <nhaines> That's because vivid is in no usable shape.
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> well ill stick to rtm proposed until they fix it for n7
[10:01] <nhaines> vivid doesn't work for any mobile device anywhere.
[10:01] <nhaines> Although I think they're taking the next three weeks to fix it up.
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> vivid is 15.04 right
[10:02] <popey> yes
[10:03] <nhaines> Right.
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> anyway tnx for the 14.09 rtm hint, works alot smoother now
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> doesnt look buggy to me :p
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: my nexus7 has become very responsive, tnx again mate
[10:33] <dslul> hello guys, regarding the porting guide, where can i find kernel/[manufacturer]/[codename]/arch/arm/configs/ cyanogenmod_[codename]_defconfig? Is it normal that phablet-dev-bootstrap does not download a kernel directory?
[10:35] <Verc> Hi :) Yesterday I've flashed the devel channel of Ubuntu Touch to my Nexus 4 (mako). The problem is that the sound does not work. When somebody's calling there's no sound. the same then somebody sends me a SMS. Music player does not work too. But sounds of keyboard work and sounds of dialer work too.
[10:36] <Verc> Also there is no sound when I am chosing ringtone or SMS tone
[10:36] <Verc> the silent mode is off, volume is max
[10:41] <Verc> When I play videos on YouTube in browser, the sound works
[10:42] <svij> Verc: sounds similar to my bug report
[10:43] <Verc> share a link
[10:43] <svij> Verc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1398560
[10:46] <Verc> well, my sound does not work
[10:47] <Verc> I cannot even hear when somebody's calling to me
[10:47] <svij> I didn't try calling
[10:48] <svij> but I had similar issues, like i wrote in the bug report
[10:48] <svij> comment #5
[10:52] <Verc> I see. I think that I have to flash "stable" because without sound my phone is useless
[10:52] <svij> did you try to fix it with remove the pulse config things?
[10:52] <ogra_> svij, Verc you both run completely different distros on completely different devices .. unlikely that the bugs are related
[10:53] <ogra_> but yeah, Verc did an upgrade, there might be old pulse config around that is broken
[10:53] <svij> ogra_: well, but the symptons are nearly the same
[10:53] <ogra_> sure
[10:53] <ogra_> but you run utopic :)
[10:53] <ogra_> or something like utopic i should say :)
[10:53] <svij> ok
[10:54] <Verc> is there a SIMPLE way of fixing the sound. Or should I report a bug and switch back to "Stable"?
[10:54] <svij> Verc: check comment 10
[10:54] <ogra_> Verc, adb shell rm -rf /home/phablet/.config/pulse/*
[10:54] <ogra_> and then: adb reboot
[10:55] <ogra_> see if it works afterwards (or rather "hear")
[10:55] <Verc> I'm trying!
[10:55] <Verc> brb
[11:01] <Verc> Hmm, I have no idea what's happening because the device turned off and has not turned on
[11:04] <Verc> HELP! The telephone does not boot!
[11:04] <Verc> Verc panic!
[11:05] <Verc> I've unplugged it and it booted.
[11:05] <popey> PANIC OVER!
[11:06] <Verc> I've got sound!
[11:06] <Verc> ogra_ I love you! <3
[11:08] <davmor2> ogra_: man now I'm gonna have to insult you so your head fits through doors again aren't I :)
[11:10] <Verc> now even the Media Player works!
[11:15] <g105b> I just bought mine!
[11:19] <Verc> is beta going to be released today (I mean for phones)
[11:20] <Verc> ?
[11:24] <dannythed> does anybody know when the 4.5 u edition will be shipped (the ones that ship in march)?
[11:24] <popey> sometime after the chinese new year
[11:24] <dannythed> didn't receive any notification yet :)
[11:25] <dannythed> hehe
[11:25] <dannythed> how many were sold already? :D
[11:25] <popey> no idea
[11:26] <popey> don't believe that information was made public
[11:26] <dannythed> yeah. web magazines are reporting (!) that they had only 300 devices in the 1st sale
[11:26] <dannythed> they so guerilla marketing uh.
[11:27] <dannythed> im not sure about it though
[11:27] <dannythed> so i wonder if anyone has reference?
[11:28] <dannythed> i also read that 25% of the orders came from germany.
[11:29] <popey> dunno where they got that
[11:29] <popey> i saw people reporting their order numbers as proof of numbers
[11:40] <yoritomo> hello
[11:40] <yoritomo> i have a sony Xperia T, i would like to know if it has any suitable way to put an ubuntu on it or any other good linux ?
[11:41] <yoritomo> i want to get free from Android
[11:42] <k1l_> see the device list if someone already did it (might look at xda-developers too) or follow the porting guide to port ubuntu-touch yourself to your device
[11:44] <jgdx> !devices | yoritomo
[11:45] <yoritomo> i saw already this page, that is why i am getting affraid, because mint version on the page for Xperia T does not mention almost anything working correctly yet
[11:46] <yoritomo> that is why i am asking my question this way to try to find a good alternative for my device
[11:46] <yoritomo> Any other distro working on mobiles ?
[11:50] <k1l_> yoritomo: well, you ask in a ubuntu channel. what do you expect gives as answers? :)
[11:58] <yoritomo> yes i understand, but if the version is not ready how mmay i catch the information for an alternative ?
[11:59] <k1l_> yoritomo: well, if you want to be able to run non-android OS you might want to buy a device that ships witht non-android or is open/known to work with non-android.
[12:00] <yoritomo> ok, then i will understand it as no way to install a working linux on my device
[12:00] <yoritomo> thanks for your information
[12:01] <k1l_> yoritomo: android is a working linux
[12:02] <k1l_> did you give it a try to install ubuntu touch on it to see what works and what not right now?
[12:07] <k1l_> yoritomo: but if you want an overview what people already did port to your device see xda-developers
[12:09] <yoritomo> ok i wiil check it
[12:19] <Verc> when I type sudo apt-get update on my Nexus4 (15.04 r1) I get errors
[12:20] <Verc> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ sudo apt-get update Err http://ports.ubuntu.com vivid InRelease    Err http://ports.ubuntu.com vivid-updates InRelease    Err http://ports.ubuntu.com vivid-security InRelease    Err http://ports.ubuntu.com vivid Release.gpg   Could not resolve 'ports.ubuntu.com' Err http://ports.ubuntu.com vivid-updates Release.gpg   Could not resolve 'ports.ubuntu.com' Err http://ports.ubuntu.com vivid-security Release.gpg 
[12:21] <jgdx> Verc, no network?
[12:22] <Verc> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. For the second time I'm looking as an idiot. Ofc. Network's off. thanks
[12:24] <jgdx> np!
[12:33] <dslul> mariogrip can i ask you something about your port?
[12:33] <mariogrip> sure
[12:34] <dslul> did you compile the kernel separately?
[12:35] <mariogrip> What do you mean, like make bootimage and make systemimage?
[12:36] <dslul> because using phablet-dev-bootstrap i cannot find the kernel dir with kernel/[manufacturer]/[codename]/arch/arm/configs/ cyanogenmod_[codename]_defconfig as the porting guide states
[12:37] <mariogrip> you need to add local_manifest/roomservice and edit the manifest.xml
[12:38] <mariogrip> this https://github.com/ubuntu-touch-oneplus-one/ubuntu-touch-for-oneplus-one/blob/master/manifest.xml and this https://github.com/ubuntu-touch-oneplus-one/ubuntu-touch-for-oneplus-one/blob/master/local_manifests/roomservice.xml
[12:38] <mariogrip> and after you did that, you need to sync you repo usin repo sync
[12:38] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, o/
[12:38] <mariogrip> then you will see kernel/oneplus
[12:39] <dslul> i was asking in general because i am trying to port utouch to nexus 7 2012
[12:39] <mariogrip> ah, you need to add the kernels repo
[12:39] <mariogrip> then it will download the kernel for your device
[12:40] <dslul> and after that you compiled the kernel manually? because it looks like it uses some precompiled binaries
[12:40] <mariogrip>   <project name="android_kernel_oneplus_one" path="kernel/oneplus/msm8974" remote="opo" revision="master" />
[12:41] <mariogrip> replace with your device kernel
[12:41] <mariogrip> it will compile like a normal android tree
[12:41] <mariogrip> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/
[12:42] <mariogrip> more about android tree http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
[12:42] <dslul> thank you, i'll try what you said :)
[12:42] <mariogrip> :)
[12:55] <RobbyF> morning
[12:55] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, o/ I just wrote you an email, but if you have time probably it's better if we talk here on IRC, I've some questions
[12:56] <mariogrip> Hey
[12:56] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, reading your e-mail now, let’s talk
[12:56] <RobbyF> back in 20
[12:56] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, probably I'm confuse because I don't see what's your final plan on this
[12:57] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, the settings are not accessed on the C++ side
[12:57] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, they’re only needed in QML (current search engine is an exception, but it will go away)
[12:58] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, mhh, and what about others? the homepage? The restore previous session? At the moment they are all managed via C++, do you plan to move all to qml?
[12:58] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, homepage is accessed from C++ today, but it should be fairly trivial to change that so it’s only accessed in QML
[12:59] <oSoMoN> same for restore previous session
[12:59] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, but indeed you have a point, there’s more work needed than I anticipated :)
[13:00] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, :D so you want to drop completely the Settings class in C++?
[13:01] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, yes, that’s the goal
[13:01] <oSoMoN> sorry if I didn’t make it clear earlier
[13:06] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, okay, now it's a bit clearer, thanks! I'm still confused on how you will manage some things in QML, but not business of mine atm. So now I' ll work on search engine model. I think I'll do a new branch from scratch, to drop settings ui prerequiste and because well, it's totally different from actual implementation
[13:08] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, sounds like a plan!
[13:08] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, I’ll take some time this afternoon to write up a detailed plan for the whole settings implementation, as it’s getting a bit more complex than I initially thought
[13:09] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, okay, great :-) I'll update you in next days! As usual, thanks for your time and patience!
[13:09] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, and as usual, you’re very welcome :)
[13:55] <Verc> another problem with music player:
[13:55] <Verc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1424626
[14:50] <pitti> on current vivid-proposed the mobile data connection just stops after a while, this happened several times now
[14:50] <pitti> no amout of flight mode , 2g vs 3g and mobile data on/off toggling brings it back, I need to reboot
[14:51] <pitti> which component is that? any hint where I could look for debug messages?
[14:51] <pitti> ofono?
[14:54] <ogra_> pitti, check your routing table
[14:55] <ogra_> i have seen cases where you end up with no default route
[14:55] <rebelos> guys ubuntu phone supports msim stuff right?
[14:55] <pitti> default via 10.51.99.33 dev rmnet_usb0  proto static  metric 1024
[14:56] <pitti> ogra_: ^ it's currently working (just rebooted), and I have that default route
[14:56] <pitti> ogra_: rmnet_usb sounds a bit odd for a 3G connection, but I guess that's the one
[14:56] <jgdx> pitti, seen bug 1418077 ?
[14:56] <pitti> ogra_: thanks, I'll watch out for that
[14:57] <ogra_> yeah, looks like you got a default one ... then it isnt that
[14:57] <pitti> jgdx: seems related, but I didn't change any TechnologyPreference; it was more or less just sitting here doing nothing
[14:58] <jgdx> pitti, we used that mainly to reliably reproduce it. I wonder, could you wait 10 minutes and see if network comes back?
[14:58] <pitti> ok, checked in the terminal app, I still have the rmnet_usb thingy after unplugging
[14:59] <pitti> jgdx: sure, can do; yesterday it was like that for an hour or so, but I'll watch more closely next time it happesn
[14:59] <pitti> I wast mostly curious where to look -- NM, ofono, some android log, etc.
[14:59] <jgdx> pitti, thanks. And syslog should tell you what NM is doing
[15:00] <pitti> ok; I'll watch out, thanks!
[15:01] <pitti> jgdx: ah, so switching between 2g and 3g should trigger this?
[15:01] <pitti> is that TechnologyPreference?
[15:01]  * pitti switches to 2G, sees 3G disappear, and nothing else come back, indeed
[15:02] <pitti> so maybe this gets triggered when 3G temporarily isn't available
[15:02] <jgdx> pitti, maybe, but if it's the same bug, then the connection should come back. Which it isn't?
[15:02] <pitti> ok, it's now dead, I'll let it sit here for 30 mins
[15:12] <jibel> pitti, I've the same problem on krillin/vivid but in my case the route is gone
[15:12] <pitti> jibel: yeah, I have no routes or UP interfaces left
[15:12] <pitti> and no visible attempts from NM to bring it back; "sudo service network-manager restart" fixes it
[15:14] <Verc> I have been disconnected and I cannot see replies to my previous question posted here. Could someone paste it for me, please?
[15:18] <OerHeks> Verc, no replies AFAIK
[15:19] <Verc> thanks
[15:19] <Verc> :)
[15:19] <Verc> so is there any way to allow terminal to be opened when the screen is locked? Because when I lock screen, the mocp player stops working
[15:47] <mariogrip> ogra_ where was the folder where all the upstart-job is, where i removed ubuntu-locate-service
[15:47] <ogra_> /ect/init ?
[15:47] <ogra_> *etc
[15:47] <mariogrip> yes, thanks
[15:54] <mcphail> Looks like sales are a bit slower on the bq phone today
[16:03] <Verc> how to allow application to work when the telephone is locked? I'd like terminal to do so
[16:06] <dobey> Verc: applications are paused while the screen is locked. there is no way to change that.
[16:06] <Verc> but Music Player works
[16:06] <dobey> Verc: only special system services can continue processing while screen is locked
[16:06] <dobey> Verc: the music player UI is paused. the music stream is played through a system service
[16:07] <Verc> is there any way to stream music from germinal through a system service?
[16:07] <mcphail> dobey: is there a link anywahere to the ubuntu touch app lifecycle: what happens during lock, loss of focus, interruption by phone call etc?
[16:07] <dobey> mcphail: there's a wiki page i think, but i don't know the url
[16:08] <mcphail> dobey: ok, i'll hunt it down. Must have missed it when looking the other day
[16:08] <dobey> Verc: i don't know if there is a cli for streaming music/video through the system service
[16:09] <Verc> I've installed Music On Console which gives better sound quality than Music Player but it stops when the screen is locked. I'd love to avoid that
[16:12] <jgdx> pitti, I'm working on wifi hotspots in USS and [1] would really help the test story. Let me know if that mr needs work. [1] https://gitorious.org/python-dbusmock/python-dbusmock/merge_requests/11
[16:16] <dobey> Verc: there are some known issues with vivid that should be fixed soon. some issues with music player i think was in that list. i don't knwo what "music on console" is, but it would need to use the same api that music player does to play through the system service. music player itself doesn't actually play the music. the system service does. music player is just a UI which tells it what to play. playing local tracks through t
[16:17] <Verc> dobey: I cannot see your entire message :(
[16:18] <Verc> Music On Console is console music player. It uses Ncurses. The problem with sound is the same in 15.04 and 14.10
[16:18] <Verc> and with Rhythmbox on my Deksktop 14.04 LTS
[16:18] <Verc> sount quality is terrible
[16:21] <Verc> *sound
[16:21] <dobey> for rhythmbox you probably have the volume set to over 100% on your sound card
[16:22] <dobey> and probably rhythmbox is also set to 100%
[16:22] <OerHeks> rhythmbox misses an equaliser
[16:24] <dobey> if you want an eq, install one
[16:24] <dobey> the calf one is pretty decent
[16:24] <pitti> jgdx: thanks, will look/merge ASAP
[16:25] <jgdx> pitti, awesome, thank you.
[16:36] <OerHeks> nice review http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/I-Have-Zero-Coding-Skills-and-I-Made-an-Ubuntu-Scope-474368.shtml
[16:39] <Verc> dobey: I've installed vlc on my nexus but it stops playing when the screen is locked
[16:39] <Verc> the soung quality is far better than the native Music Player
[16:41] <dobey> Verc: i already told you why that doesn't work
[16:42] <Verc> yes :D I just wanted to boast and grumble at the same time :D
[16:44] <Verc> and maybe you know who would know whether is there possibility to play music via different player?
[16:46] <dobey> there are different players in the store
[17:31] <dslul> mariogrip, when you tried to flash boot.img with fastboot have you encountered this: FAILED (remote: (InvalidSize))  ?
[17:32] <mariogrip> nope, i haven't seen that before
[17:39] <dslul> i assume boot.img has a fixed size, but is it the same for every device?
[17:43] <ogra_> no, it varies based on the partition table of the device
[18:02] <RobbyF> awesome, MX4 will be shipped internationally
[18:31] <dslul> it turns out the boot.img generated is bigger than the one in cyanogenmod roms...even the nexus 4 one
[18:34] <dslul> is it normal?
[18:35] <dslul> when i compile ubuntu touch for nexus 4 boot.img is ~10MB and the one in cyanogen roms is 6.7MB
[18:44] <RobbyF> dslul, seems to be normal from what i've seen
[18:46] <RobbyF> ls
[18:47] <kenvandine> mandel, happy to see the udm fix in a silo, thanks!
[18:48] <dslul> RobbyF, when i try to do fastboot flash boot boot.img it says FAILED (remote: (InvalidSize)) on the nexus 7 2012
[18:52] <RobbyF> something must be wrong with the boot.img
[18:54] <dslul> i'll try using cyanogenmod device and kernel repositories to see if anything changes
[19:01] <kenvandine> mandel, we should include my backport of the original check_hash branch to your rtm silo
[19:01] <kenvandine> seb128, can i get another review of https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/rtm-check-hash/+merge/247489
[19:02] <kenvandine> seb128, i fixed the style issues in your last review here https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/style_fixes/+merge/251146
[19:02] <kenvandine> and backported that to the rtm branch
[19:02] <kenvandine> so should be good now
[19:02] <kenvandine> seb128, if you could give both of them a review
[19:31] <kenvandine> mandel, i reconfigured that rtm silo with the check_hash backport branch, and dropped the no change rebuild for settings
[19:42] <seb128> kenvandine, sure, can do that tomorrow
[19:42] <kenvandine> seb128, thanks, i went ahead and put the rtm branch in mandel's silo
[19:43] <kenvandine> since without that backport, his udm fixes aren't enough
[19:43] <seb128> k
[20:09] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, are we still landing that silo then? what is in there
[20:09] <kenvandine> that the check hash fix, to verify the click package downloads
[20:09] <kenvandine> not sure when it'll land
[20:10] <kenvandine> but it looks like mandel fixed udm
[20:10] <kenvandine> and it requires stuff to be rebuilt
[20:10] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, ok not sure we will rtm that
[20:10] <kenvandine> ok
[20:10] <kenvandine> well it's ready :)
[20:11] <kenvandine> correction, i think it's ready :)
[20:12] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, let me check with jdstrand  on it
[20:18] <adrian47> Someone know how can i lower size of boot.img? i need 0.6MB
[20:36] <RobbyF> adrian47, fastboot erase boot
[20:36] <RobbyF> that might free up partiion space
[20:39] <adrian47> RobbyF, thanks, I tried it but my partition has only 4.1MB :(
[20:47] <Verc> Is it a bug if after flashing the devel channel to my mako the Ubuntu Store does not worki?
[20:47] <popey> Verc: define "does not work"?
[20:47] <popey> maybe check your ubuntu one account still exists and looks okay
[20:48] <Verc> It shows nothing.  Only the background
[20:52] <popey> pull down to refresh?
[20:52] <popey> network works?
[20:53] <Verc> norhing :(
[20:54] <Verc> I have readded U1 account
[20:54] <Verc> norhing
[20:56] <dobey> can you open a page in the brwoser or use a web app?
[20:57] <dobey> store scope has been working fine for me on devel-proposed for months
[20:57] <dobey> and we haven't really made any changes to it, so no reason for it to have stopped working
[20:57] <dobey> popey: account not needed to browse store. only to install/purcahse, so probably unrelated
[20:57] <dobey> oh
[20:58] <Verc> sorry I left accidentally
[20:59] <Verc> have I missed somethink?
[20:59] <dobey> 15:55 < dobey> can you open a page in the brwoser or use a web app?
[20:59] <dobey> 15:55 < dobey> store scope has been working fine for me on devel-proposed for months
[20:59] <dobey> 15:56 < dobey> and we haven't really made any changes to it, so no reason for it to have stopped working
[20:59] <Verc> *something
[21:00] <Verc> which page?
[21:00] <dobey> any page
[21:00] <dobey> "does your network actually work?"
[21:01] <dobey> store is working just fine for me. so no server issue
[21:01] <dobey> and nothing's changed in the scope that would affect that, so almost certainly a network connectivity issue on your device
[21:02] <Verc> Now I'm using the telephone's browser
[21:03] <dobey> you can watch ~/.cache/upstart/scope-registry.log to see if there are errors logged
[21:03]  * dobey bets qt can't use the network and a reboot might fix it
[21:12] <Verc> This log is soooo long
[21:19] <dobey> that's what tail -f is for
[21:19] <dobey> so you only see the new bits
[21:40] <nik90> oh man the convergency video by will cooke is freaking amazing! https://plus.google.com/108554416426692294217/posts/2traoV92n5z
[21:47] <dobey> why is libreoffice using the default gtk+ theme though instead of the ubuntu theme?
[22:11] <mhall119> dobey: probably missing configs
[22:11] <mhall119> also, we may not ship the ubuntu GTK theme as part of the device images :)
[22:12] <mhall119> we may not ship them *now*, I would imagine that will change once all of this awesome work lands
[22:14] <dobey> mhall119: should get will to install the theme on the demo device for mwc though. will look much better with it :)
[22:14] <dobey> anyway, time for me to go. later :)
[22:17] <mhall119> dobey: the Gtk theme doesn't exactly match the new SDK's theme though
[22:17] <mhall119> it would look better,yes, but not a match
[22:19] <ChloeWolfieGirl> mahll119 one thing with ubuntu 15.04 with unity 8 is how you install x-apps, I see videos with them but when I install an app it doesn't show up in unity8
[22:20] <mhall119> ChloeWolfieGirl: right now it's probably a bit hacky, I'm betting willcooke has made some special .desktop files to (A) make it appear in Unity 8 and (B) wrap the executable in XMir
[22:20] <mhall119> but eventually that'll all be worked out
[22:21] <ChloeWolfieGirl> mhall119 yeah I posted asking about it in the ubuntu app developer community to ask if anyone knew, and someone sent a video which looked hacky and I was like... yeah... I'll just wait a bit longer before I test this with other apps then xD