| diddledan | adverts: the universal indicator that it's time to use the toilet | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | diddledan: that or the general scent to the room ;) | 00:03 |
| shauno | that always weirds me out a bit with modern cars | 00:10 |
| shauno | I'm used to, in my mini, the dash was like a wooden shelf. and the rest was *space* | 00:10 |
| shauno | now when you get in a car it's this big plastic blob that tries to envelop you | 00:11 |
| shauno | I just don't find plastic hugs from a volvo reassuring | 00:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | of course the safety record of first mini wasn't great. the stick out petrol spout caused the minis to catch fire if they rolled | 00:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | in a crash | 00:31 |
| shauno | then don't do that :) | 00:31 |
| shauno | that said, my first mini did lose a rather entertaining discussion with a tree | 00:32 |
| diddledan | was there ever a liklihood that it was going to win that conversation? | 00:36 |
| shauno | well, there was a large amount of luck involved. it has mismatched wheels - they weren't all the same size. so it had some fundamental instabilities when going backwards | 00:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | and by modern standards i doubt it would pass a modern safety test | 00:38 |
| shauno | "modern standards" are incredibly dull | 00:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | until you have the excitement of a crash in the next few seconds | 00:42 |
| diddledan | press | 02:12 |
| diddledan | err | 02:12 |
| diddledan | is it really 2 am already?! | 02:19 |
| shauno | no. | 02:37 |
| shauno | just ordered an optical-digital audiocard thing for the pi. I can't believe people actually make this stuff | 02:38 |
| mapp | hi all | 05:56 |
| === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 08:31 |
| popey | anyone got a backup of the /topic before I changed it? (I did have but lost it) :) | 08:40 |
| diplo | popey, how long ago, I've been connected for days so can scroll up | 08:44 |
| popey | this week | 08:44 |
| popey | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/02/23/%23ubuntu-uk.txt | 08:45 |
| popey | thats when i did it | 08:46 |
| popey | ahh, found one | 08:46 |
| popey | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/12/02/%23ubuntu-uk.html | 08:46 |
| diplo | Topic for #ubuntu-uk is: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | IRC stats: http://tinyurl.com/uukstat | G+ Community: http://tinyurl.com/uukgplus | next meeting TBA | Beer Train! http://tinyurl.com/choochoo2015 | 08:46 |
| popey | that'll do | 08:46 |
| diplo | :) | 08:46 |
| popey | yay! | 08:46 |
| popey | thanks diplo | 08:47 |
| === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport |IRC stats: http://tinyurl.com/uukstat | G+ Community: http://tinyurl.com/uukgplus | next meeting TBA | Beer Train! http://tinyurl.com/choochoo2015 | ||
| ali1234 | what's the cheapest thing on amazon? i'm 1p short for free delivery | 09:04 |
| popey | http://www.fillerchecker.co.uk/ | 09:05 |
| ali1234 | nice | 09:05 |
| ali1234 | i think we crashed it | 09:13 |
| popey | yeah, slowwwww | 09:14 |
| ali1234 | probably exceeded the api limit | 09:15 |
| Myrtti | ♥ | 09:23 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy For Pete’s Sake Day! :-D | 09:51 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:14 |
| foobarry | found an easter egg in google hangouts today | 11:38 |
| popey | was it delicious? | 11:39 |
| foobarry | type woohoo in hangout conversation | 11:39 |
| foobarry | i had an important question about the hudl2 but i've forgotten it :( | 11:39 |
| foobarry | but i was wondering if anyone had measured data usage on android between chrome and firefox? | 11:40 |
| foobarry | chrome is killing my data plan | 11:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | switch to opera, it compresses the data remotely. it takes getting used to but saves a tonne on data | 11:41 |
| foobarry | in theory, does it work in practice? | 11:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | i used it when i was in hospital for 6 weeks in 2008 and could make 50mb daily allowance last all day browsing on devices. | 11:43 |
| davmor2 | foobarry: or get an unlimited data plan | 11:43 |
| foobarry | allegedly chrome is using compression | 11:44 |
| foobarry | "282MB vs 208 MB in last month" | 11:44 |
| davmor2 | foobarry: just stop using the internet when you hear someone is wrong on it | 11:45 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| davmor2 | JamesTait: You've met Pete Cannon right, he's bigheaded enough without celebrating a day to his sake, and I mean what's his rice wine got that others don't ;) | 12:41 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, he's not big headed, he's just got no hair. :-P | 12:42 |
| * JamesTait adjusts his comb-over | 12:43 | |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: you really don't know him that well then do you ;) | 12:43 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: pete? That's the scarey one right? | 12:50 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: http://www.cannon-linux.co.uk/ this one | 12:51 |
| MooDoo | yeah i know who he is :D | 12:59 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: I wouldn't say scary :) | 13:00 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| MooDoo | :) | 13:04 |
| moreati | I'm trying to think of a name for a Tesco API client, without using any trademarks. Any ideas? Does Tesco have any harmless nick names? | 13:30 |
| foobarry | they used to have a slogan | 13:31 |
| foobarry | every little helps | 13:31 |
| foobarry | so you could call it | 13:31 |
| foobarry | littlehelper | 13:31 |
| moreati | probably also trademarked | 13:31 |
| foobarry | little helper is not though | 13:31 |
| moreati | oh, I see. A bit too generic | 13:32 |
| foobarry | or call it tesico | 13:32 |
| moreati | hmm, maybe 'ocset' | 13:32 |
| daftykins | wasn't there an ad campaign about saving pennies in some form or another 0o | 13:32 |
| daftykins | i don't really know English supermarkets :> | 13:32 |
| foobarry | supertes | 13:33 |
| davmor2 | moreati: just take the last three letter that's pretty safe right? | 13:41 |
| awilkins | SCO ? | 13:41 |
| davmor2 | awilkins: damn did I forget the sarcasm tags again | 13:42 |
| moreati | given those who've gone before me https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=tesco, I'll take the risk | 13:42 |
| daftykins | what about naming yourself Tess, then you're Tess Co. | 13:43 |
| moreati | https://github.com/encio/tesconnect heh | 13:43 |
| moreati | https://github.com/jrdnull/tesgo heh^2 | 13:46 |
| intrbiz | moreati: what are you pulling from the Tesco API? | 13:46 |
| davmor2 | intrbiz: Bunnys...no wait that's magicians and top hats | 13:48 |
| moreati | just product search/price lookup at the moment. mysupermarket.co.uk with cross-supermarket comparison is what I'd like, but they have no API | 13:48 |
| intrbiz | moreati: have you come across openfoodfacts? (they did a session at odcamp at the weekend) | 13:49 |
| moreati | yes, they have very few products though | 13:50 |
| intrbiz | sure, but open licensed | 13:52 |
| foobarry | is a video camera from a couple of years ago gonna be much better than my phone? | 13:58 |
| foobarry | e.g. toshiba x400, or panasonic hx dc3 | 13:58 |
| daftykins | check out the recording resolutions, codecs and bitrates | 14:00 |
| daftykins | the lens is probably what'd have an edge though, being not constrained by the size of a phone | 14:00 |
| foobarry | mp4, hd1080 | 14:01 |
| popey | will almost certainly be better in low light, and have optical zoom | 14:03 |
| popey | which your phone wont | 14:03 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| davmor2 | foobarry: horse for courses, camera still come with a lot of things that phones don't. Phones are great I found for a quick video of something or a nice snapshot of something you spot while out and about, but cameras still leave phones in the dust when it comes to long videos or a more professional photo tool | 14:06 |
| foobarry | my missis wanted to do a few tutorials on youtubes | 14:08 |
| foobarry | won't be directly revenue generating, but linked to stuff she might sell | 14:09 |
| foobarry | but i'm not exaclt ymade of money so wonder if phone will suffice | 14:09 |
| foobarry | in good light | 14:09 |
| popey | also, proper cameras have a flip screen so you can see yourself | 14:10 |
| foobarry | i have an old school camcorder that records to digital tape, though i reckon that must be 480p max | 14:10 |
| popey | you dont want to record a whole video and find you chopped your head off | 14:10 |
| foobarry | the cheapo hd ones do too | 14:10 |
| popey | right | 14:10 |
| popey | my point was that phones dont | 14:11 |
| foobarry | i would record on a tripod | 14:11 |
| foobarry | i see :D | 14:11 |
| popey | you should watch techmoan | 14:11 |
| popey | he reviews cameras | 14:11 |
| foobarry | i am also a cheapskate | 14:11 |
| popey | grumpy, so i think you'd enjoy them | 14:11 |
| popey | https://www.youtube.com/user/techmoan | 14:11 |
| foobarry | i'm less grumpy nowadays? | 14:11 |
| popey | reviews a lot of dashcams | 14:11 |
| popey | but he also does a lot of the cheaper go-pro like cameras | 14:12 |
| popey | which might be what you're after | 14:12 |
| foobarry | cool cheers | 14:12 |
| popey | because they are stupid easy to use, and record to a card | 14:12 |
| popey | and many work well in various lighting conditions | 14:12 |
| foobarry | which is ulmtately what i want | 14:12 |
| popey | check out the sj cam videos | 14:12 |
| popey | they're the go-pro knock-offs | 14:12 |
| foobarry | but you pay more for the portable/waterproofness i guess | 14:13 |
| popey | ya | 14:13 |
| popey | i use to like my kodak zi8 | 14:14 |
| foobarry | oh, they are cheap | 14:14 |
| popey | but they dont make those anymore and sam busted the lens so it's permanently out of focus | 14:14 |
| foobarry | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SJ1000-1080P-H264-Video-Recorder-30M-Waterproof-Sport-Mini-DV-Bike-Helmet-WHITE/291306771193?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29316%26meid%3Ddfafcd33d9ca447c878cfd4a5faff6cb%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D111608096883&rt=nc | 14:15 |
| foobarry | wonder if sj1000 is worse than a phone though | 14:15 |
| daftykins | that URL - ze goggles, they do nussing! @_@ | 14:15 |
| popey | jeez, look at all the mounting gear you get | 14:15 |
| popey | for 25 quid! | 14:16 |
| foobarry | i could mount it to my dog | 14:16 |
| foobarry | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QppW_0_DuiE | 14:16 |
| foobarry | techmoan burned his hand, or is it a scar | 14:16 |
| popey | the only problem with them is they have fisheye lenses | 14:17 |
| popey | thats the case for most action cams | 14:17 |
| foobarry | oh, shipping £20 | 14:17 |
| popey | wifey wont want that | 14:17 |
| foobarry | good point | 14:17 |
| popey | i used to take the zi8 to the park to video my kids | 14:18 |
| popey | and sam really enjoyed using it too | 14:18 |
| popey | was very quick to setup and use. | 14:18 |
| foobarry | looking for reasons to get the sj1000 :P | 14:18 |
| popey | this tightwad thing doesn't really work out well usually. | 14:19 |
| foobarry | no | 14:19 |
| foobarry | shame | 14:19 |
| foobarry | part of it is not realyl having a compelling reason to buy it | 14:19 |
| foobarry | if there was a good reason i would spend prper munneh | 14:19 |
| popey | might have to take the kodak apart and find out why the focus is busted | 14:21 |
| foobarry | techmoan has it in his car | 14:22 |
| foobarry | dash kit would be handy | 14:22 |
| popey | i have a dash cam :) | 14:22 |
| foobarry | i've seen | 14:22 |
| popey | never watch the footage | 14:22 |
| popey | its dull :) | 14:22 |
| foobarry | i did | 14:22 |
| popey | other nice thing about zi8 | 14:22 |
| popey | usb connector built in | 14:23 |
| popey | so just plug the camera into pc, drag video off it | 14:23 |
| popey | no faff | 14:23 |
| foobarry | kodak you say? | 14:23 |
| popey | ya | 14:24 |
| popey | there was one newer model than the zi8 | 14:24 |
| foobarry | looks like a phone lens | 14:24 |
| popey | which was waterproof | 14:24 |
| popey | the next one was kodak playsport zx5 I think | 14:26 |
| foobarry | know about cisco flips? | 14:29 |
| foobarry | seem some cheap | 14:29 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| ali1234 | flip cameras are rubbish | 14:52 |
| ali1234 | get a gopro | 14:53 |
| foobarry | or indeed a sj1000 :D | 15:58 |
| davmor2 | popey: wifey made me chocolate chip cookies \o/ | 16:00 |
| popey | \o/ | 16:00 |
| popey | my wifey made me do the school run | 16:00 |
| daftykins | was a spade required to shoo them out the door? :D | 16:01 |
| davmor2 | popey: that doesn't sound like it is quite as full of chocolate goodness | 16:01 |
| popey | No. very much so. | 16:01 |
| popey | lots of other parents were surprised to see me | 16:02 |
| popey | (I never do the school run) | 16:02 |
| foobarry | i did that yesterday while wife went to watch cats the musical | 16:03 |
| foobarry | daughter had a meltdown when mama didn't turn up to childmunder | 16:03 |
| davmor2 | popey: my query is always the same at this point how far do schools actually run | 16:04 |
| diddledan | sometimes the system (government) actually works - I just received a new disabled person's bus pass for myself \o/ (mental health counts as a disability. who knew?!) | 16:14 |
| daftykins | diddledan: you skiver! | 16:14 |
| daftykins | how'd you swing that one? :P | 16:14 |
| daftykins | provide a transcript of some of our late night chats in here? :) | 16:14 |
| diddledan | heh, I've been a diagnosed nutjob for years :-D | 16:15 |
| diddledan | since I was 17. I'm now 32 (in a few days) | 16:16 |
| daftykins | cor la | 16:16 |
| diddledan | \o/ binary age! | 16:16 |
| foobarry | diddledan: i haz 40 on saturday | 16:17 |
| foobarry | will haz | 16:17 |
| foobarry | still have my own hair | 16:17 |
| foobarry | and it is still brown | 16:17 |
| diddledan | my hair is receding | 16:17 |
| foobarry | goign south for winter? | 16:17 |
| diddledan | aye | 16:17 |
| diddledan | at least I don't have a hole in the middle | 16:18 |
| foobarry | if i havem then nobody told me | 16:18 |
| awilkins | I want a shell script that i) Accepts input pasted into it and then ii) runs it through sed normalizing it's whitespace and iii) then puts it in xclip so I can paste it to another window.... go! | 16:37 |
| * awilkins wouldn't mind some help with that :-) | 16:37 | |
| SuperEngineer | hmmm, ok getting p'd off with you now, Chromium - stop randomly crashing when you're open but I'm looking elsewhere! You have been warned Chromium | 16:48 |
| awilkins | tr '\n' ' ' | sed -n 's/ \+/ /gp' - | xcliip # hooray | 16:52 |
| daftykins | i still have luscious long locks in a ponytail | 17:08 |
| daftykins | :P | 17:08 |
| diddledan | I've got long locks too :-p | 17:09 |
| diddledan | just not so much at the front :-D | 17:09 |
| daftykins | d'aww | 17:10 |
| SuperEngineer | diddledan, reverse your mirror - you'll never need to care about male pattern balding again ;) | 17:11 |
| NET||abuse | hey guys, | 17:16 |
| NET||abuse | i'm trying to debug a flood of apparmor messages that appeared just now on a server | 17:17 |
| NET||abuse | anyone know how to read apparmor messages? | 17:17 |
| daftykins | throw it in a pastebin | 17:17 |
| NET||abuse | not sure it's going to break anything other that waste loads of log file space. | 17:17 |
| NET||abuse | http://dpaste.com/3E2FT2X | 17:17 |
| NET||abuse | and sensu(which i didn't setup) is giving out crap about the messages . | 17:18 |
| NET||abuse | i pushed out some config changes (using saltstack) to the machine, but i'm wondering if people hadn't run a highstate on it for ages | 17:19 |
| NET||abuse | never had reason to wonder about apparmor before. | 17:20 |
| SuperEngineer | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10433064/ ... real life tale we can all learn from | 17:49 |
| diddledan | SuperEngineer, ouch | 17:53 |
| SuperEngineer | yup | 17:55 |
| MooDoo | SuperEngineer: well that sounded like fun :( | 18:05 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| davmor2 | SuperEngineer: ouch | 18:11 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: like you do really work, you play on your home servers all day and just pretend you can't blag us ;) | 18:12 |
| davmor2 | s/really/real | 18:13 |
| MooDoo | lol thanks davmor2 | 18:14 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: thought you'd like that :) | 18:15 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: you sir are a git ;) | 18:15 |
| MooDoo | now leave me to my nic bonding | 18:15 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: I am no I use bzr :P | 18:16 |
| davmor2 | s/no/not | 18:16 |
| MooDoo | I'm ssh'd to the garage :) it's warmer in the kitchen | 18:16 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: see I said you just work on your own servers all day ;) | 18:21 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: shush you, it's a perk | 18:22 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: hahahaha | 18:23 |
| daftykins | hah | 18:28 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: you obviously need to put your servers under more stress to warm the garage up more ;) | 18:31 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: I have 3 servers, 1 desktop and a NS | 18:35 |
| MooDoo | NAS | 18:35 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: yes so stress test them all and the garage will be the warmest place in the building ;) | 18:36 |
| MooDoo | lol | 18:36 |
| dutchie | \o/ RAT tickets arrived | 18:40 |
| MooDoo | yay | 18:40 |
| popey | \o/ | 18:41 |
| popey | mine are still on the wall | 18:42 |
| ChloeWolfieGirl | RAT tickets? | 18:46 |
| popey | !rat | 18:46 |
| lubotu3 | rat is The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. Saturday 19th September 2015 Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3040-real-ale-train-2015/ | 18:46 |
| MooDoo | it's a popular uk event :D | 18:47 |
| MooDoo | although /me is waiting for ubuntu uk podcast live | 18:47 |
| awilkins_ | BEEEER | 18:47 |
| popey | yeah, bunch of us are going | 18:47 |
| awilkins_ | Proper beer | 18:47 |
| popey | beer and games | 18:47 |
| popey | and silly chatter | 18:47 |
| awilkins_ | Board games? | 18:47 |
| popey | and steam trains! | 18:47 |
| popey | card games | 18:47 |
| awilkins_ | Traditional or collectible? | 18:48 |
| popey | cards against humanity, we didn't playtest this at all, and this time, Exploding Kittens | 18:48 |
| awilkins_ | Ah | 18:48 |
| awilkins_ | What's teh ticket situation like | 18:48 |
| popey | i bought mine a week or so ago | 18:49 |
| popey | dunno if there's any left | 18:49 |
| popey | looks like they still have some | 18:49 |
| MooDoo | they sold out quite quickly last year iirc | 18:50 |
| popey | we announced later too | 18:50 |
| awilkins_ | May try to enlist the GF | 18:51 |
| popey | they have ladybeer | 18:53 |
| MooDoo | lol | 18:53 |
| popey | they also have curry and chilli | 18:53 |
| diddledan | america's fcc succumbed and have enacted strong net neutrality goodness | 19:52 |
| diddledan | oh, it still needs to go through congress :-( | 19:53 |
| diddledan | the campaign site has more: https://www.battleforthenet.com | 19:56 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: I think popey knows about the ladybeer because it is what he drink just in a manly glass ;) | 20:06 |
| popey | drinking some right now :) | 20:07 |
| ging | does anyone know much about debian packaging maintainer scripts interacting with config from other packages? | 20:26 |
| ging | is it possible to do reliably without having a conf dir instead of a conf file? | 20:29 |
| diddledan | ging, I wouldn't like a package to fiddle with a file installed by a different package | 20:30 |
| shauno | what you're describing is pretty much why conf-dirs exist. that's probably a clue | 20:31 |
| ging | shauno: yes, but i wonder how people tackle the problem without them | 20:32 |
| diddledan | they don't | 20:32 |
| diddledan | or at least they shouldn't | 20:32 |
| diddledan | it's bad behaviour | 20:33 |
| shauno | that just reminds me of the bad old days when we had to compile config files (yes, looking at you sendmail) | 20:33 |
| diddledan | eww | 20:34 |
| shauno | but it's not an answer, just a proverbial 2cents | 20:34 |
| diddledan | sendmail was evil | 20:34 |
| diddledan | m4?! wtf! | 20:34 |
| diddledan | m4 was never intended for human consumption | 20:34 |
| diddledan | ever | 20:34 |
| diddledan | I think exim is another one that does programmatic config files | 20:35 |
| diddledan | .. just without the precompile step | 20:36 |
| shauno | iirc debian still have a list for deb/dpkg. but if you do go that way, I'd make very clear to them whether or not you intend for this to land in a distro, etc | 20:39 |
| shauno | otherwise they're quite likely to maul you with best practices instead | 20:40 |
| ging | anyone know how to get to a reovery console on ubuntu 14.04 when you have encrypted harddrives? | 21:19 |
| diddledan | surely it's the same as when you don't? | 21:21 |
| ging | yeah it is | 21:21 |
| ging | i thought it would be a lot harder | 21:21 |
| m0nkey_ | ging, unless you have the password or recovery key, you're kinda out of luck. | 22:05 |
| ging | m0nkey_: i had the key, it was fine, i just expected it to make me manually do something to decrypt, but it starts that for you anyway, just with a less fancy input box | 22:41 |
| mapp | grmpf work time | 23:16 |
| diddledan | mapp, is grmpf short for "grum pfuttock"? | 23:28 |
| diddledan | (that's a phrase my daddy likes) | 23:28 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/mswx0dfqn4kj7ho/IMG_20150226_190501.jpg?dl=0 | 23:29 |
| daftykins | Portal 2 on my HTPC, using Steam streaming from my desktop upstairs :o | 23:29 |
| diddledan | your steam stream is streaming steam? | 23:29 |
| ali1234 | now stream it on twitch | 23:29 |
| daftykins | :P | 23:30 |
| daftykins | steam encodes it and throws it over the LAN, then directs input from the endpoint back to the host too | 23:30 |
| ali1234 | they need to make that work on phones | 23:30 |
| ali1234 | and tablets | 23:31 |
| ali1234 | this would be an absolute killer feature | 23:31 |
| daftykins | Microsoft are with the xbox one :> | 23:31 |
| ali1234 | yeah but microsoft sux and xbox sux | 23:31 |
| ali1234 | and presumably it only works on microsoft phones that nobody uses or cares about except directhex :P | 23:31 |
| diddledan | ex bone | 23:31 |
| daftykins | nice 12 year old comments there | 23:32 |
| daftykins | no it's gonna be android and iOS | 23:32 |
| ali1234 | that's slightly better then | 23:32 |
| ali1234 | but i'm still not going to buy an xbox for that when i already have a PC | 23:32 |
| daftykins | mmhmm | 23:33 |
| daftykins | i'd want to throw a good £150+ at a newer graphics card if i really cared about PC gaming, which i don't | 23:34 |
| daftykins | my ol' core 2 quad is getting a bit ancient now though | 23:34 |
| daftykins | 7 years old now | 23:35 |
| daftykins | but has a GTX 560 Ti | 23:35 |
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