[20:36] <chrstphrchvz>  /msg NickServ set password freenodeCC
[20:39] <mlankhorst> aw changed :p
[20:39] <chrstphrchvz> oops, ignore that
[20:41] <chrstphrchvz> While I'm figuring out a better password though, I was trying to help out with this bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1314924 ; the issue is resolved by upgrading to 14.04.2 but is it necessary?
[20:42] <chrstphrchvz> An affected user writes back, "Nobody wants to upgrade or enable the HWE..."
[20:43] <mlankhorst> then bisect it..
[20:47] <mlankhorst> oh you already have 2 bugs linked in fd.org 
[20:47] <mlankhorst> just try those patches and do a stablereleaseupdate
[20:47] <chrstphrchvz> The problematic package (firefox) has considered but not implemented a workaround. The actual issue was due to xf86-video-intel and it was fixed by the time Utopic was released…
[20:47] <mlankhorst> from the bug description it links to a fd.org bug
[20:47] <mlankhorst> which links to https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75818 or https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77201
[20:48] <chrstphrchvz> So can that be made available to non-HWE 14.04 users?
[20:51] <mlankhorst> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates is the procedure
[20:51] <mlankhorst> bit of paperwork + making a fixed package
[20:55] <chrstphrchvz> Thanks. I'm not a developer though, much less a maintainer or triager; is there somewhere else to ask with the SRU process (e.g. ubuntu-bugs)?
[21:23] <chrstphrchvz> Would this issue even qualify under the "When" criteria?
[21:41] <chrstphrchvz> @mlankhorst, from what Chris Wilson wrote on fd.org, there might be two possible patches since the resolution was not specific to the issue (it was marked duplicate)
[21:48] <Chipaca> I'm trying to use an R9 285 (tonga) on 15.04, but getting no direct rendering at all
[21:48] <Chipaca> anybody got any pointers for me?
[21:51] <Chipaca> I've managed to get catalyst omega to work by fixing the code a little (removing a problematic ifdef), but it crashes too much
[21:52] <Chipaca> and i'd much rather use the open drivers anyway
[22:04] <tjaalton> Chipaca: get fully rid of fglrx first
[22:04] <Chipaca> tjaalton: done that
[22:04] <Chipaca> rebooted also
[22:05] <Chipaca> then tried to get updated drivers but none of them seem to be building vivid
[22:05] <tjaalton> so which is it, fglrx or oss?
[22:05] <Chipaca> e.g. oibaf's stuff for vivid is just mesa
[22:05] <Chipaca> tjaalton: not sure i understand the question
[22:05] <Chipaca> tjaalton: neither the free software nor the fglrx ones that come in 15.04 work
[22:06] <tjaalton> you want open source drivers but install fglrx?
[22:06] <Chipaca> the only thing that has given me accelerated 3d has been a tweaked fglrx i downloaded and built from the amd site
[22:06] <tjaalton> actually I'm not sure radeon supports that
[22:06] <tjaalton> no idea about fglrx
[22:06] <Chipaca> tonga? no it doesn't
[22:06] <Chipaca> not in vivid at least
[22:07] <Chipaca> tjaalton: as to what i want, i want the free software one to work, of course
[22:08] <Chipaca> i can wait for it if the answer is "wait for it", using crashy fglrx until then
[22:08] <tjaalton> it won't be in 4.0 either, no amdgpu driver exists
[22:08] <tjaalton> and I know nothing of fglrx
[22:09] <tjaalton> sounds like it's just buggy
[22:10] <Chipaca> i don't think "buggy" is the word
[22:10] <Chipaca> there should be something _under_ buggy
[22:11] <tjaalton> fglrx? :)
[22:11] <Chipaca> perhaps
[22:11] <Chipaca> it reminds me of the drivers for AMR modems from way back when
[22:12] <tjaalton> if you buy radeon for linux, choose wisely
[22:12] <tjaalton> means not the latest
[22:12] <Chipaca> :(
[22:12] <tjaalton> some googling might've helped there
[22:12] <Chipaca> i thought i had. i read about it being well supported by fglrx, and nearly there for the free drivers (performance was excellent with them, better than fglrx, they said)
[22:13] <tjaalton> then use it on a release where it's stable
[22:13] <tjaalton> not vivid
[22:13] <Chipaca> i need vivid for work, and i'm not going to boot into an operating system just for 3d
[22:14] <tjaalton> change the card then
[22:14] <Chipaca> i tried, but have been told it's going to be tested with a windows machine, and if it works, the rma will be denied
[22:15] <tjaalton> no i mean different vendor/generation
[22:15] <Chipaca> so now i'm trying to sell it msyelf
[22:15] <Chipaca> but i'm not very good at that, so i'm giving the free drivers one last runaround
[22:15] <tjaalton> there is no free driver
[22:15] <Chipaca> with the perhaps naive presumption that phoronix can't be 100% full of lies
[22:16] <tjaalton> the kernel drm driver is not
[22:16] <Chipaca> but there's an amdgpu tree on github, aiui
[22:17] <Chipaca> anyway, rebooting back into fglrx so i can shoot people before bed
[22:17] <Chipaca> thanks
[22:21] <tjaalton> the kernel has amdgpu stuff already, just not r28x support on it