[04:30] <barrydk> M ore almal
[04:41] <Kilos> morning all
[04:52] <Kilos> morning mazal  barrydk  
[04:58] <mazal> Môre oom
[05:09] <mazal> Kilos , ThatGraemeGuy, barrydk  and other minetesters : Minetest section of this wiki is finished , your comments/inputs/corrections please https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Fun_On_Ubuntu
[05:10] <Kilos> hehe
[05:11] <Kilos> the bug has got you hey
[05:21] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:24] <mazal> Hoe lyk dit oom ?
[05:25] <Kilos> jy het baie gedoen daar seun, lyk goed, net baie lees
[05:26] <Kilos> is/are moet jy net onthou. ek het dit verander bu ubuntu is
[05:29] <Kilos> are is meervoud ek dink is die woord   they are going away en he is going away
[05:30] <Kilos> maar goeiei job so ver ek dink
[05:30] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:30] <Kilos> goeie
[05:31] <Kilos> goosie sal beter dit kan deurkyk
[05:31] <Kilos> hi  Jacques_Stry  
[05:31] <Jacques_Stry> Morning
[05:34] <mazal> Morning Jacques_Stry , thanx for adding your info in memberlist
[05:37] <Jacques_Stry> Pleasure
[05:37] <Jacques_Stry> Busy making a ubuntu-za wallpaper for myself, will show you guys when it's finished
[05:37] <Kilos> cool
[05:40] <mazal> nice
[05:48] <Kilos> would be nice if they put the ubuntu wiki on a static site, it is very slow at times
[06:08] <Webtricity> morning
[06:08] <Kilos> morning Webtricity  
[06:17] <Webtricity> How are you Kilos?
[06:17] <Kilos> im good ty Webtricity  and you?
[06:17] <Kilos> tell us a bit about yourself, only andrew seems to know you
[06:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> NOTE that most mods and subgames requires the latest version of minetest. So it is good practice to always use the latest stable release at the very least.
[06:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's not really true, latest stable will work alright for a few weeks after release, and then slowly things will start breaking
[06:18] <Kilos> mazal  ^^
[06:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> the popular games/mods track the source in git for the most part
[06:22] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  arent you going to join us on trello?
[06:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> i have no idea what a trello is
[06:25] <Kilos> we are here https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco
[06:25] <Kilos> you have to install trello i think
[06:25] <Kilos> Maaz  google trello
[06:25] <Maaz> Kilos: "Trello" https://trello.com/ :: "Log in to Trello" https://trello.com/login :: "Trello Tour" https://trello.com/tour :: "Apps and Platforms | Trello" https://trello.com/platforms :: "Trello - Organize Anything - Android Apps on Google Play" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trello&hl=en :: "Trello - Organize Anything on the App Store on
[06:25] <Maaz> iTunes - Apple" https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/trello-organize-anything/id461504587?mt=8 :: "…
[06:27] <Kilos> its a goodie that runs in your browser hehe
[06:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> looks suspiciously like work
[06:28] <Kilos> i just followed pro and fly
[06:29] <Kilos> its a place where we get together and help each other get things going, the aim being to improve/advance ubuntu in za
[06:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> ah
[06:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> yep, definitely sounds like work
[06:30] <Kilos> lol it helps save some of the getting tired gaming syndrome
[06:46] <mazal> trello is web based only , doesn't install it
[06:47] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy: Yeah that be true , but I am unsure how to phrase it. I'm always cautios to reccomend dev software. Although in minetest it does seem to be ok
[06:47] <Kilos> ok that thing
[06:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> it's a game, not an ERP system :)
[06:48] <mazal> Especially with the changes comming to 0.5.x that we were warned about , they actually warn to go back to stable for now on servers
[06:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah will see how that works out
[06:49] <mazal> I asked the question if server and client is 0.5.x if that will be ok , but wasn't answered
[06:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> I have a feeling you will need to track the changes eventually anyway, they may be starting to use branches for the engine/minetest_game, but I don't see most modders doing the same
[07:19] <Squirm> Load SHedding starts at 10am
[07:20] <Squirm> and Good Morning
[07:31] <Jacques_Stry> ...
[07:32] <Jacques_Stry> Why Eskom why...
[07:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh no, the lights are going dip for 7 seconds, woe is me!
[07:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> massive generator FTW! :-D
[07:35] <Kilos> lol
[07:36] <Kilos> from next week i can be off for days at a time. pta eletricity department are coming to do underground cabling in the area
[07:44] <Kilos> sjoe we gonna fly
[07:44] <Kilos> http://newsletters.mybroadband.co.za/lt.php?c=406&m=419&nl=2&s=bf7acfe2dfd656e64c262fe9165a0e17&lid=9236&l=-http--mybroadband.co.za/news/cellular/119582-7-5gbps-5g-mobile-data-speeds-demoed.html
[07:44] <Kilos> sorry for not shortening it first
[08:03] <Squirm> Kilos: yep
[08:03] <Squirm> ThatGraemeGuy: Heh
[08:03] <Squirm> laptop ftw
[08:04] <Squirm> and at work we have enough UPS power to last us about 4 hours
[08:13] <Jacques_Stry> Also switched to a laptop at work
[08:33] <Jacques_Stry> Power just went out - net was of till generator kicked in
[08:37] <Kilos> ai!
[08:38] <Kilos> wb mazal  
[08:38] <mazal> ^&$&^$^%*& loadshedding again
[08:38] <Kilos> ai!
[08:40] <mazal> stage 2 guys , check your schedules
[08:40] <mazal> incompetant morons !!!
[08:42] <Kilos> i can never find the correct shedule for this area, so just let them kill it when it suits them.
[08:46] <mazal> On the day my fav game get's a big update too :(
[08:46] <mazal> When do they think I must do that now
[08:46] <Kilos> lol
[08:47] <Kilos> maybe tomorrow. so that gives more time for trello stuffs
[08:47] <Kilos> im busy trying to contact ubuntu in burkina faso atm
[08:48] <mazal> Will have to do it late tonight
[08:48] <mazal> Here comes very little sleep tonight :(
[08:48] <mazal> And lots of babelas tomorrow
[08:48] <Kilos> ai!
[08:49] <mazal> Their schedules are so wrong usually that I can't take a chance to start the update. Will have to wait till I am sure they are done
[08:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> whereabouts in the country are you?
[08:50] <mazal> Cullinan , should be only now until 12:30 and then not again tonight , but I have seen that schedule before and then they switched us of 3 times in the same day :(
[08:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> must say city of cape town has stuck to schedule quite well
[08:51] <mazal> Currently the power is off according to schedule , but ya , big chance they switch us off tonight again
[08:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> sometimes start 15 mins after designated time, but i think that's becuase they turn off in sections
[08:51] <mazal> And that specific update is big , takes long , and if interrupted you start over from fresh install
[08:54] <mazal> Which means roughly 5 nights of work , depending on how much time you have and how fast your connection is
[08:55] <mazal> So I will rather wait till way past 8 before I start. 8 is usually the latest one for us
[08:56] <Kilos> stickyboy  you back?
[08:56] <Kilos> ai! just took a while to show afk
[08:56] <superfly> loadshedding? what's that?
[08:56] <mazal> I must move to center of Cullinan , they never get loadshedding due to the mine
[08:56] <Kilos> dont you get power cuts superfly  ?
[08:59] <jacques_> lol power came on again, so generator switched again. Was wondering why power went out - we are scheduled for 2pm-5pm
[09:00] <mazal> Jacques_Stry: those idiots can't do anything right
[09:00] <mazal> can't even read a watch
[09:01] <Jacques_Stry> mazal: Yep
[09:20] <Kilos> hi magellanic  
[09:29] <magellanic> heya
[09:35] <superfly> Kilos: at home, yes, at work, no
[09:35] <superfly> Cape Town keeps large parts of the CBD on
[09:41] <Kilos> aha
[09:43] <magellanic> heya superfly 
[09:43] <superfly> hi magellanic
[09:44] <magellanic> how's it going? are they load shedding there?
[09:44] <superfly> nope
[09:44] <superfly> if you wanna get work done, maybe come to our offices ;-)
[09:45] <Kilos> haha
[09:45] <magellanic> hehe yeah
[09:45] <magellanic> we are not load shed yet, we are supposed to be from 10-12:30, but they haven't cut us
[10:00] <Symmetria> heh you guys are heading to where we are in Kenya
[10:00] <Symmetria> every house as a backup genset
[10:01] <Symmetria> heh and a lot of them have inverters and auto-switches and battery banks to keep things going while the gensets kick in
[10:13] <magellanic> office has a generator, but most use desktops, and the switch cuts us off momentarily
[10:15] <inetpro> good mornings
[10:18] <magellanic> heya inetpro 
[10:18] <mazal> Ok hopefully we are done for today
[10:20] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[12:19] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:56]  * Squirm looks around
[13:11] <Kilos> hehe
[13:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> well that sucks
[13:23] <Kilos> what happened now
[13:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> I wanted to look into getting a pet, turns out tarantulas are not legal to keep in the western cape
[13:23] <Kilos> lol
[13:24] <Squirm> ThatGraemeGuy: seriously?
[13:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes :-/
[13:25] <Squirm> that's weird
[13:25] <Squirm> but...
[13:25] <Squirm> no, that's just weird
[13:27] <Kilos> tropical fish are lekker pets you never have to clean up their mess or discard chewed up pc parts and shoes
[13:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://blog.rozzerstarantulas.co.za/product/blue-spider-combo/
[13:27] <Kilos> and the creepy crawlies keep the tank clean
[13:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> how could you not want that as a pet? ^
[13:28] <Kilos> R400 for a spider
[13:28] <confluency> Awwww, eight-legged kittens. :D
[13:28] <Kilos> hehe
[13:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> precisely
[13:28] <confluency> What's their lifespan, though?
[13:29] <confluency> Fish are OK, because fish are kind of an aggregate pet. Fish die; you get more fish; you have "fish", plural.
[13:29] <confluency> I wouldn't keep rodents as pets, though. Too depressing.
[13:29] <Kilos> lol
[13:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> females can get get quite old, I think males don't live all that long
[13:30] <Kilos> very fascinating watching fish in a nice tank
[13:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> Tarantulas may live for years; most species take two to five years to reach adulthood, but some species may take up to ten years to reach full maturity. Upon reaching adulthood, males typically have but a 1- to 1.5-year period left to live and will immediately go in search of a female with which to mate. Male tarantulas rarely molt again once they reach adulthood.
[13:30] <confluency> http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/pets/tarantula.htm
[13:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> Females will continue to molt after reaching maturity. Female specimens have been known to reach 30 to 40 years of age, and have survived on water alone for up to 2 years.
[13:30] <confluency> Not bad at all.
[13:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[13:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> same mileage you get from a cockatiel
[13:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> less annoying squawking though :D
[13:32] <confluency> I guess if you *really* want value for money you can get a Galápagos tortoise.
[13:33] <Kilos> lol
[13:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[13:33] <confluency> A legacy for your great-grandchildren.
[13:36] <magellanic> not legal? I know someone use had some
[13:37] <confluency> People keep all kinds of pets that they shouldn't.  If nobody reports them, nobody will know.
[13:38] <confluency> If your tarantula is confined to a terrarium, I doubt your neighbours will notice.
[13:39] <confluency> It doesn't look like these people care ;) : http://www.gumtree.co.za/s-western-cape/tarantulas+for+sale/v1l3100001q0p1
[13:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[13:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> info is pretty scant, but from what i gather they used to be allowed with relevant paperwork, but at some point became disallowed
[13:43] <magellanic> expensive spider..
[13:45] <Kilos> wow - You have reached your quota for directly contacting other Launchpad users. You can try again in 19 hours.
[13:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> spammer!
[13:46] <confluency> They have tarantulas in Butterfly World.  I should go there: http://www.sareptiles.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=124&t=23111
[13:46] <Kilos> no man contacting or trying to other african ubuntu locos
[13:46] <Kilos> most seem to have died out
[13:48] <Kilos> this project ThatGraemeGuy  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams
[13:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> confluency: yeah they have quite a lot, I think they got a special permit to house alien species found/confiscated
[13:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> kids never tire of butterfly world, but i've pretty much had enough for a lifetime :D
[13:53] <confluency> They're a zoo; zoos can keep animals members of the public can't.
[13:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's true
[13:54] <confluency> The exotic pet market is pretty dodgy. :/
[13:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah :-/
[13:54] <confluency> At least sleazy tarantula dealers are probably breeding them locally and not smuggling them onto planes duct-taped into their underwear.
[13:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> snake might be a better option
[13:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> but for now i'm going home, ttfn
[13:55] <confluency> Cheers!
[13:58] <Kilos> superfly  did they send you youre membership certificate yet?
[13:58] <Kilos> or must one apply for that
[13:58] <Kilos> haha hi mopkop  
[13:59] <mopkop> Hello all :)
[13:59] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[13:59] <mopkop> Thank you! What are you guys talking about?
[14:00] <Kilos> just now was exotic pets
[14:00] <Kilos> but if you need linux help just ask
[14:01] <Kilos> hoe het jy hierdie kanaal gevind mopkop  ?
[14:01] <magellanic> tarantula's
[14:02] <mopkop> Ek't hier gekyk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[14:02] <magellanic> new distro? 8-legged-linux anyone?
[14:02] <Kilos> aha
[14:02] <Kilos> wel jy is welkom hier by ons
[14:02] <mopkop> Dankie :) Praat ons Afrikaans of Engels hier?
[14:02] <Kilos> engels eintlik
[14:03] <mopkop> Ok, nee dis reg, sal dan by my beste engels hou ;-)
[14:03] <Kilos> van ons mense verstaan nie afrikaans nie
[14:04] <mopkop> Ek dink ewenwel ek het 'n groter kans om gehelp te word as ek Engels praat...
[14:04] <Kilos> ons het n afrikaanse kanaal ook #ubuntu-afr
[14:04] <mopkop> Ok, ek sal hom ook join :)
[14:05] <Kilos> watse hulp het jy nodig? net met engels?
[14:08] <mopkop> Lol nee, eintlik wil ek net weet watter programerings taal die beste werk vir linux?
[14:08] <mopkop> Of moet ek sommer voortgaan met c# en net 'n oopbron weergawe vir .NET download?
[14:08] <Kilos> python so ver ek hoor
[14:09] <Kilos> confluency  can you advise him please
[14:09] <mopkop> Ek't ook so gehoor. weet jy of Ubuntu 'n ingeboude Python Interpreter het?
[14:10] <mopkop> Ok, over to English, sorry...
[14:10] <Kilos> np ubuntu has lots of python built in
[14:11] <mopkop> Ok, I'll just have to learn it then...
[14:11] <Kilos> look at byteofpython
[14:11] <Kilos> Maaz  google byteofpython
[14:11] <Maaz> Kilos: "A Byte of Python - Swaroop CH" http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/python/ :: "A Byte of Python - Swaroop CH" http://files.swaroopch.com/python/byte_of_python.pdf :: "A Byte of Python - Ibiblio" http://www.ibiblio.org/g2swap/byteofpython/read/ :: "A Byte of Python (PDF) - Ibiblio" http://www.ibiblio.org/g2swap/byteofpython/files/120/byteofpython_120.pdf :: "A
[14:11] <Maaz> Byte of Python" http://www.byteofpython.info/ :: "Free PDF: A Byte of Python by Swaroop C H…
[14:12] <mopkop> print 'Thank you' :)
[14:13] <Kilos> you are welcome
[14:16] <Kilos> you are also welcome to add this channel to your favourites
[14:17] <magellanic> maaz google google python class
[14:18] <Maaz> magellanic: "Google's Python Class - Google for Education — Google Developers" https://developers.google.com/edu/python/ :: "Python Introduction - Google for Education — Google Developers" https://developers.google.com/edu/python/introduction :: "Python Strings - Google for Education — Google Developers" https://developers.google.com/edu/python/strings ::
[14:18] <Maaz> "Baby Names Python Exercise - Google Developers" https://developers.google.com/edu/python/ex…
[14:18] <Kilos> magellanic  do you know python
[14:19] <mopkop> No Notepad++ for linux?
[14:19] <magellanic> yes, work with it
[14:20] <Kilos> we need someone to rewrite our ibid bots so they are python3
[14:20] <Kilos> from 2.some change
[14:21] <Kilos> mopkop  hang around there are other things you can use
[14:22] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/313973/what-are-the-alternatives-to-notepad-on-ubuntu
[14:22] <Kilos> you are using ubuntu hey?
[14:23] <Kilos> or linux at least
[14:23] <magellanic> why?
[14:23] <Kilos> why what magellanic  ?
[14:23] <mopkop> Yes, Ubuntu.
[14:23] <magellanic> why rewrite for 3?
[14:24] <Kilos> cool
[14:24] <Kilos> mopkop  see the above link
[14:24] <Kilos> because it doesnt work in a 3 environment
[14:25] <magellanic> but it works, why fix it :D
[14:25] <Kilos> lol  maaz is old and running on an old server
[14:25] <Kilos> so come upgrade time no more maaz
[14:26] <mopkop> Thank you :) I'll try GVim. I'm just surprised such a popular open-source project is not available for Linux.
[14:27] <mopkop> Is Maaz a bot?
[14:27] <Kilos> yes
[14:27] <mopkop> Interesting...
[14:27] <Kilos> hosted in germany
[14:27] <mopkop> Maaz Google "Notepadd++ alternatives"
[14:27] <Maaz> mopkop: Wow! Google couldn't find anything
[14:28] <magellanic> python 2.x is still around on all distro's..
[14:28] <magellanic> latest versions of them
[14:28] <Kilos> Maaz  google notepad++ alternative for ubuntu
[14:28] <Maaz> Kilos: "Notepad++ Alternatives for Linux - AlternativeTo.net" http://alternativeto.net/software/notepad-plus-plus/?platform=linux :: "What are the alternatives to Notepad++ on Ubuntu? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/313973/what-are-the-alternatives-to-notepad-on-ubuntu :: "[SOLVED] Linux notepad editor alternative to Notepad++ - Ubuntu Forums"
[14:28] <Maaz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2205190 :: "Notepadqq: Notepad++ Alternative For Linux -…
[14:28] <mopkop> Yes I think Python 2 is like IPv4. Available everywhere, but everyone is trying to upgrade.
[14:29] <mopkop> I see, no Quotation marks.
[14:29] <mopkop> Maaz /?
[14:29] <Maaz> mopkop: *blink*
[14:29] <mopkop> Maaz help
[14:29] <Maaz> mopkop: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[14:29] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[14:29] <mopkop> Wow, I like Maaz...
[14:30] <magellanic> bbl
[14:30] <Kilos> ibid was written by our guys years ago
[14:31] <Kilos> now silicon valley has stolen them
[14:31] <mopkop> Our guys? You mean the Linux team? Yes I heard Microsoft now has Corona or something.
[14:32] <Kilos> no i mean guys from this channel
[14:32] <Kilos> from the south african community
[14:32] <mopkop> Interessant :)
[14:33] <Kilos> ons het slim mense hier
[14:33] <Kilos> net ek wat dom is
[14:33] <mopkop> Ek sien so, lol. 
[14:33] <mopkop> Ek het dan die regte Channel gekies :)
[14:33] <Kilos> ja
[14:34] <mopkop> Where is everyone from? I'm from Pretoria.
[14:35] <Kilos> go see our wiki page we are building
[14:35] <Kilos> let me find the link
[14:35] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members#preview
[14:36] <Kilos> still many we havent put in yet
[14:37] <Kilos> oh and you can look at our static site
[14:37] <Kilos> https://ubuntu-za.org/index.html
[14:37] <Kilos> you can leave off the index part i think
[14:39] <mopkop> O wow, I like this community :)
[14:40] <mopkop> What projects do you guys usualy work on?
[14:42] <Kilos> you can go see what we are doing atm if you get trello
[14:42] <Kilos> Maaz  google trello
[14:42] <Maaz> Kilos: "Trello" https://trello.com/ :: "Log in to Trello" https://trello.com/login :: "Trello Tour" https://trello.com/tour :: "Apps and Platforms | Trello" https://trello.com/platforms :: "Trello - Organize Anything - Android Apps on Google Play" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trello&hl=en :: "Trello - Organize Anything on the App Store on
[14:42] <Maaz> iTunes - Apple" https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/trello-organize-anything/id461504587?mt=8 :: "…
[14:42] <Kilos> then you look here https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco
[14:44] <Kilos> ubuntu.za.org was just rebuilt by superfly  and some helpers
[14:44] <Kilos> nice and fast hey?
[14:47] <mopkop> Indeed!
[14:50] <Kilos> you might like openlp in the repos also by one of our team
[14:53] <mopkop> The Church program?
[14:53] <Kilos> ya
[14:55] <Kilos> hi SDCDev  
[14:56] <mopkop> Yes I've seen that program before, I had no idea it was you?
[14:56] <Kilos> no me
[14:56] <mopkop> Yes I mean This team :)
[14:56] <Kilos> hehe the same guy that did our site
[14:56] <Kilos> hehe
[14:56] <mopkop> Superfly?
[14:57] <Kilos> yip our resident python master
[14:57] <SDCDev> ola
[14:57] <SDCDev> you'll be happy to know the backpackers I'm staying at uses ubuntu :D
[14:57] <SDCDev> wasn't even me :P
[14:57] <Kilos> and other languages too
[14:57] <SDCDev> was just here
[14:57] <SDCDev> 13.10 though
[14:57] <SDCDev> and no one knows the sudo password
[14:57] <SDCDev> so can't upgrade... they want me to reinstall :|
[14:58] <Kilos> lol point them here
[14:58] <Kilos> bnut you do the hard work first
[14:58] <Kilos> but
[14:58] <SDCDev> lol :P
[14:58] <mopkop> Wonderful, if it was written in Python, I assume it will work on Windows just as well?
[14:58] <Kilos> ?
[14:58] <SDCDev> the backpackers is called WildSpirit
[14:59] <Kilos> point them to us for ubuntu help SDCDev  
[14:59] <SDCDev> http://www.wildspiritlodge.co.za/
[14:59] <Kilos> where are you now
[14:59] <SDCDev> same place
[14:59] <SDCDev> :)
[14:59] <Kilos> ai!
[14:59] <SDCDev> just outside nature's valley
[15:03] <mopkop> GTG, I'm supposed to be doing an Assignment, but ended up playing around with my new OS. Good bye all!
[15:05] <Kilos> nice place SDCDev  
[15:05] <SDCDev> yeah :D and they accept bitcoin :D
[15:05] <Kilos> lol
[15:06] <Kilos> get them onto 14.04.2
[15:07] <Kilos> you might as well do some work instead of just enjoying yourself for so long
[15:13] <Kilos> ha
[15:16] <Kilos> hi qwebirc43086  wb
[15:18] <qwebirc43086> Good day to you all
[15:19] <Kilos> are you the same guy that was here earlier today?
[15:24] <qwebirc43086> i was on last night then eskom Killed my connection 
[15:24] <Kilos> oh sorry
[15:24] <Kilos> they enjoy doing that seems like
[15:25] <qwebirc43086> and at the wrong time because i am hooked to these SPY Cables from Aljezeera sinc they came out and i was readin gone when they cut me off
[15:26] <Kilos> ai!
[15:28] <Kilos> inetpro  you never stop, you gonna plof my kop
[15:29] <Kilos> hehe
[15:29] <qwebirc43086> what just happened?
[15:30] <Kilos> he gave me more work
[15:30] <qwebirc43086> i have a lot of WHOIS querries on my screen, is this normal?
[15:30] <Kilos> nope
[15:31] <Kilos> get a proper irc client installed
[15:31] <Kilos> you using ubuntu hey?
[15:33] <Kilos> ty for updating the topic bar inetpro  skelm
[15:36] <qwebirc43086> i am using from ubuntu-za.org
[15:37] <qwebirc43086> where do i get the client from?
[15:37] <Kilos> oh not running ubuntu on your pc?
[15:37] <qwebirc43086> i am runnigng 14.04
[15:37] <Kilos> in the repos you will find xchat and hexchat
[15:38] <Kilos> can you use the command line?
[15:38] <qwebirc43086> terminal? yes
[15:38] <Kilos> sudo apt-get install hexchat
[15:41] <qwebirc43086> Freenode network?
[15:42] <Kilos> yes then click on it and choose edit on the right
[15:42] <Kilos> and enter the channels you want to join in there with a , between them
[15:43] <qwebirc43086> then IRC.Freenode.net?
[15:43] <Kilos> yes
[15:43] <Kilos> nono sorry
[15:43] <Kilos> chat.freenode.net
[15:44] <Kilos> you might have to add that
[15:45] <qwebirc43086> now i have chat.freenode.net/+6697
[15:45] <Kilos> thats good
[15:46] <Kilos> im trying to remember what hexchat setup looks like
[15:46] <qwebirc43086> anymoor settings?
[15:46] <Kilos> you entered this channel?
[15:47] <Kilos> if you have a freenode password use it there or leave till later
[15:47] <Kilos> it will connect here
[15:49] <qwebirc43086> i have alot of things on my screennow, and its showing 11015 available channels
[15:49] <Kilos> didnt you click on freenode and then tick edit on the right?
[15:50] <qwebirc43086> yes i did that 
[15:50] <qwebirc43086> then i got that chat.freenode.net/+6697
[15:50] <Kilos> on your left once connected do you see ubuntu-za
[15:51] <Kilos> hi Dirtydeedsman  
[15:52] <Dirtydeedsman> i made it, thank sKilos
[15:52] <Kilos> yw
[15:52] <Dirtydeedsman> i had to look for Ubuntu-za under the chanells list
[15:52] <Kilos> if it shows the irc.freenode.net as well you can go back and delete it
[15:53] <Kilos> it should connect here directly
[15:56] <Kilos> i struggle a bit with settings if i dont see the app in front of me
[15:56] <Dirtydeedsman> i had to select SSL encrytpion, is this encrypted?
[15:56] <Kilos> it should work without that
[15:57] <Kilos> but if it works then leave it
[15:57] <Dirtydeedsman> i never knew about this, this is awesome
[15:57] <Kilos> when i ticked ssl i couldnt login the next day
[15:58] <Dirtydeedsman> i am going to switch off and check if i can come back again. Have auto login setup etc
[15:59] <Kilos> i think i turned the auto thing off
[15:59] <Kilos> otherwise you dont see it to setup again
[15:59] <Kilos> wb
[15:59] <Kilos> it worked
[15:59] <Kilos> so you good
[16:00] <Dirtydeedsman> and it works including the chat history is stil there
[16:00] <Kilos> yes
[16:00] <Kilos> you can set how much it saves as well
[16:00] <Kilos> and alerts
[16:01] <Kilos> if you look in settings preferences i think you will see lots you can do
[16:01] <Dirtydeedsman> I liking this are very much 
[16:02] <Kilos> good
[16:05] <Kilos> eish the wiki is slow
[16:07] <Kilos> nuvolari  ping
[16:16] <inetpro> Kilos: log a fault!
[16:17] <Kilos> ai!
[16:17] <Kilos> i cant delete off the last agenda page
[16:18] <Kilos> oh i have to be in edit mode
[16:25] <Kilos> inetpro  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150224 did i miss something
[16:25] <inetpro> yes
[16:26] <Kilos> what?
[16:26] <Kilos> im not sure what it is supposed to look like man
[16:27] <Kilos> hi Neo31  
[16:36] <inetpro> Kilos: that is the previous month
[16:36] <Kilos> uh oh
[16:43] <Kilos> sigh
[16:44] <Kilos> inetpro  and now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150224
[16:51] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  wb
[16:51] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos , alo :)
[16:58] <nlsthzn> I was thinking to write up a wiki page detailing the reporting process so that anybody could do it if needed and also improve and edit the procedure...
[16:58]  * nlsthzn hates wiki mark-up however :/
[16:58] <Kilos> whats the markup thing
[16:58] <Kilos> mazal has become good at wiki stuffs
[16:58] <Kilos> go see our trello
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:01] <nlsthzn> mind off-line currently... will worry about trello and other related shenanigans when I have had more sleep ;)
[17:01] <Kilos> lol
[17:11] <Kilos> nlsthzn  do you know how to log a fault! about the wiki being so slow?
[17:11] <Kilos> takes forever to open pages like where we put our meeting stuff in
[17:23] <nlsthzn> this is a known issue for many years... I would suggest we grin and bare it...
[17:25]  * nlsthzn busy breaking PC *might be back later*
[17:27] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:27] <Kilos> na we nag till its fixed
[17:41] <Kilos> hmm... he broke it
[18:04] <Private_User> load shedding people will have to be back later my battery never lasts more than 10min
[18:04] <Private_User> later all
[18:04] <Kilos> cheers
[19:19] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry... was at work until now
[19:19] <Kilos> np inetpro  
[19:19]  * inetpro going home 
[19:20] <Kilos> go safe
[19:26] <superfly> https://flic.kr/p/r4vp96
[19:27] <Kilos> what is that box for?
[19:29] <Kilos> or off?
[19:30] <superfly> Kilos: that's called Google Cardboard
[19:30] <superfly> Kilos: you put your phone in it, and you get a Virtual Reality headset
[19:31] <Kilos> lol
[19:32] <Kilos> whew zak is big hey
[19:33] <Kilos> wow the baby has beautiful eyes
[19:34] <superfly> yes, we're hoping she keeps them
[19:36] <Kilos> who got the roasties
[19:51] <Kilos> eeeek they eat green peppers raw
[20:00] <Kilos> haha hannah can pull faces hey superfly  
[20:05] <Kilos> hi clr  
[20:05] <clr> hi, anything happening around here?
[20:06] <Kilos> me looking pics
[20:06] <clr> ok, pics of what
[20:06] <Kilos> https://flic.kr/p/r4vp96
[20:06] <Kilos> lotsa flies
[20:13] <clr> sorry my laptop just froze, so bad I had to hard reset it
[20:13] <Kilos> np
[20:13] <clr> and that is with ubuntu 14.04.2  don't like that
[20:13] <Kilos> oh my
[20:14] <Kilos> i dont have that problem i use kde
[20:14] <Kilos> hee hee
[20:14] <Kilos> fly and pro taught me well
[20:15] <clr> hehe well kinda difficult to pinpoint it
[20:15] <Kilos> lol
[20:15] <Kilos> maybe cat or tail will show what is was
[20:15] <clr> must be unity's fault
[20:15] <Kilos> ya
[20:16] <Kilos> you need some patience, unity sometimes needs to think for a while
[20:16] <clr> cat what?
[20:16] <Kilos> tail /var/log/syslog
[20:16] <Kilos> dunno cat what
[20:16] <clr> ha
[20:16] <Kilos> man cat
[20:17] <Kilos> this is off the top of my head, memories from somewhere
[20:17] <inetpro> . 
[20:17] <Kilos> wb inetpro  
[20:17] <superfly> ..
[20:17] <Kilos> uh oh
[20:18] <Kilos> new code chat
[20:19] <clr> tail /var/log/syslog only shows events after restart, not before
[20:20] <Kilos> hmm...
[20:20] <clr> I need to know what caused the machine to freeze up, any ideas
[20:20] <Kilos> inetpro  fixit
[20:21] <clr> but don
[20:22] <clr> don't worry, it happens very seldom, feels like it happens when I type to fast sometimes.
[20:22] <Kilos> lol
[20:22] <Kilos> you hit the kill button
[20:22] <Kilos> but only half killed it
[20:23] <Kilos> you type too fast
[20:23] <clr> anyway just popped in to say hi, must go again.  hhehe I'll have to avoid that button in future then
[20:23] <Kilos> lol go well
[20:23] <clr> <kill button>
[20:24] <Kilos> you like typing so do sudo shutdown -h now
[20:24] <Kilos> aw
[20:24] <Kilos> i type too slow
[20:37] <Kilos> i go sleep too, night all. sleep tight
[20:49] <inetpro> uh
[21:31] <superfly> inetpro: are there supposed to be polls here? Cause I don't see anything: https://ubuntu-za.org/poll.html
[21:31] <inetpro> superfly: hmm...
[21:32] <inetpro> when I tested locally it was working
[21:32] <superfly> inetpro: at a guess, it's the https vs http
[21:32] <superfly> inetpro: exactly
[21:32] <inetpro> ah
[21:32] <superfly> don't specify the scheme in urls
[21:32] <superfly> use //
[21:33] <superfly> /example.com/my-web/page.html
[21:33] <superfly> ag
[21:33] <superfly>  //example.com/my-web/page.html
[21:33] <inetpro> superfly: was captine who did that
[21:33] <superfly> that tells your browser to use the same scheme as the site it's currently one
[21:33] <superfly> of course if the source site doesn't offer https, then you probably shouldn't use it
[21:33]  * inetpro takes note
[21:35] <inetpro> superfly: as mentioned on Trello, I think it would be best if we actually point to a generic poll site
[21:35] <inetpro> somewhere where we can change polls independant of our site
[21:36] <inetpro> but that will have to be done another day...
[21:37] <inetpro> superfly: btw, I approved your latest changes
[21:37] <superfly> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-za/+bug/1426130
[21:37] <superfly> ta
[21:39] <inetpro> should I merge that>
[21:39] <inetpro> ?
[21:39] <superfly> hah, much better
[21:39] <superfly> inetpro: already merged and deployed
[21:39] <inetpro> cool
[21:39] <superfly> alright, past my bed time
[21:39] <inetpro> ty
[21:40] <inetpro> Updated to revision 23 of branch bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu-za
[21:41] <superfly> inetpro: if someone who is not core, ie not you or me, proposes a merge, BOTH of us need to approve it
[21:41] <inetpro> interesting
[21:42] <superfly> I would have caught that poll bug before it went out if I'd looked at the merge proposal
[21:42] <inetpro> so you changed the rules now?
[21:42] <superfly> nope, I just never told you the rest of them at the time
[21:43] <superfly> because only you and i were committing at that stage (well, only me)
[21:43] <inetpro> np
[21:43] <superfly> inetpro: that's how we do it in OpenLP
[21:44] <superfly> since there are only 2 of us in core, the other core needs to approve. for non-core, both cores need to approve
[21:44] <superfly> it's a way of making sure we stay on track all the time
[21:44] <superfly> also, sometimes one of us catches something the other didn't
[21:44] <inetpro> superfly: makes sense, only problem I can see is if one of us is not available, what then?
[21:44] <superfly> you wait
[21:44] <superfly> and ping
[21:45] <inetpro> cool
[21:45] <inetpro> how many core members do you have on openLP?
[21:45] <inetpro> wb Neo31
[21:47] <inetpro> superfly: ^^
[21:50] <inetpro> ahh, I see four
[21:50] <superfly> inetpro: 2
 since there are only 2 of us in core
[21:51] <superfly> anyway, I need to get to bed
[21:51] <superfly> night all
[21:52] <inetpro> good night superfly
[21:52]  * inetpro hits the sack as well
[21:52] <Neo31> hi inetpro :)
[21:52] <Neo31> how are u doing?
[21:53] <inetpro> Neo31: good and yourself
[21:53]  * Neo31 feels tired but good ^_^
[21:53]  * inetpro needs to go
[21:53] <inetpro> bye
[21:53] <Neo31> inetpro
[21:53] <Neo31> wait
[21:53] <Neo31> superfly, 
[21:53] <inetpro> uh
[21:53] <inetpro> ok?
[21:53] <Neo31> any idea about a good way to make a custom ubuntu CD ?
[21:53] <Neo31> there are a bunch of methods to follow
[21:53] <Neo31> but what do u recommend?
[21:54]  * inetpro has never had the need to do it
[21:54] <inetpro> but kilos does something... lemme think
[21:56] <inetpro> ai!
[21:56]  * inetpro can't find it now
[21:56] <inetpro> Neo31: please ask Kilos in the morning
[21:57] <Neo31> i will 
[21:57] <Neo31> thanks you inetpro 
[21:57] <inetpro> sorry... good night
[21:57] <Neo31> thank*
[21:57] <Neo31> good night
[21:57] <Neo31> sweet dreams :)