[00:02] <Connor__> Hi, I am having trouble getting Ubuntu back onto my machine. Would anyone be willing to help me?
[00:03] <Connor__> Would someone be able to help me boot Ubuntu from a flash drive on my machine?
[00:03] <frimend> ok, resolved the problem.
[00:04] <frimend> I activated the Fakeraid and removed something in the raid manager
[00:04] <frimend> then deactivated it again.
[00:04] <frimend> grr
[00:04] <VolUTFan> Connor, check your private
[00:04] <VolUTFan> I didn't want to spam the whole channel so I hit you directly
[00:05] <daftykins> !pm
[00:06] <VolUTFan> Hey guys, do any of you have experience with apt-mirror and mirroring multiple repos to a local drive for LAN access
[00:07] <compdoc> Apt-Cacher NG works fairly well
[00:08] <VolUTFan> apt-cacher is only for installed apps over the lan using it as a gateway.. not what I am specifically looking for
[00:13] <SuperMario1> hello
[00:20] <wldcordeiro_> Is there a ppa around aside from dead-snakes that has Python versions? One that will actually follow the latest point releases?
[00:20] <wldcordeiro_> I have a VM running 14.04 and I'd like to use Python 3.4.3 but dead-snakes caps off at 3.4.0
[00:25] <SuperMario1> hi
[00:25] <SuperMario1> hi
[00:25] <SuperMario1> hi
[00:26] <k1l> SuperMario1: hi
[00:26] <fuzzybear3965> k1l: Hey, k1l.
[00:29] <kruz> While installing Ubuntu 14.04, I have a SATA and an MSATA SSD, it's auto mounting my SSD as /dev/cdrom, so I can't complete the installation.  Anyone familiar with this bug? I've tried to umount -f /dev/cdrom and /dev/sdb1.  No luck.
[00:30] <compdoc> Ive never used an msata. cant unplug one until youre finished?
[00:31] <kruz> msata is for /
[00:31] <kruz> the sata is for /home
[00:31] <kruz> ssd makes it boot in 9 seconds or less
[00:32] <kruz> fedora and other distros work fine, but Ubuntu seems to be quirky with the install
[00:32] <kruz> which is funny, because I had mint installed and it is ubuntu based
[00:33] <cryptodan> kruz: maybe check your boot settings in the bios
[00:34] <imbezol> kruz: i'd try just installing without /home on a separate partition
[00:34] <imbezol> kruz: after install you can add the second drive and move /home
[00:34] <EddieFTW> hey everyone. I have a dedicated server currently and I was wondering how I would set up graphical view. running the latest version of ubuntu server(14.10)
[00:34] <kruz> imbezol: I need / on my msata, but it's mounting it as /cdrom
[00:35] <imbezol> kruz: even if your sata isn't plugged in?
[00:35] <kruz> cryptodan: no need to change anything on it, boot settings is set to boot from sata, which is where my /boot /home /var and /tmp partitions are
[00:35] <Ben64> EddieFTW: the whole point of a server is that you don't have graphics
[00:35] <kruz> imbezol: msata, it's a little hard to get to.  it's an ultrabook, very thin
[00:35] <EddieFTW> Ben, I kind of need it to access my backup storage because I don't know how to get the files from the backup storage via command line
[00:36] <maum_> hello
[00:36] <EddieFTW> I know how to get into it with the cmd ftp so yea :P. I am switching to ubuntu server
[00:36] <maum_> Do you know how to do ssh by avoiding corporate firewall ?
[00:37] <Ben64> maum_: contact the networking guy and ask him
[00:37] <kruz> maum_: I assume you mean port 22 is blocked?
[00:37] <maum_> yes
[00:37] <kruz> maum_: configure the server to listen on port 443
[00:37] <Ben64> kruz: give a pastebin of "mount"
[00:38] <maum_> kruz: I don't know how to do it
[00:38] <kruz> http://pastebin.com/uuLNUSY9
[00:39] <kruz> Ben64: the other drive that is on there, the /dev/sdc is my USB stick which I'm currently using to try to install Ubuntu
[00:39] <imbezol> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 443 -j REDIRECT --to-port 22
[00:39] <imbezol> and leave it on 22
[00:39] <Odditie> Can anyone help me with a udevadm trigger error on boot?
[00:39] <Ben64> kruz: why do you have an iso9660 filesystem on sdb
[00:39] <kruz> maum_: keep in mind, if you are using apache or nginx that is listening on 443, you don't want to do that
[00:39] <kruz> Ben64: I don't
[00:40] <Ben64> its mounted like that, so you do
[00:40] <kruz> I've deleted the partitions with both parted and fdisk.  there was nothing on it
[00:40] <kruz> Ben64: I don't
[00:40] <maum_> kruz: I don't use it
[00:40] <EddieFTW> so can anyone help me? I have an external hard drive as a backup storage and I was curious how I would move those files to the ubuntu server
[00:40] <EddieFTW> I usually do it by graphical view but apparently that's a bad idea :P
[00:41] <maum_> kruz: do you know how to do it?
[00:41] <kruz> maum_:  do what imbezol said with iptables
[00:41] <Ben64> EddieFTW: its hooked up physically to the server?
[00:41] <EddieFTW> yessir, Ben64.
[00:41] <kruz> that will need to be saved, or else it will only run in that one session until iptables is restarte
[00:41] <kruz> d
[00:41] <Ben64> EddieFTW: cp = copy, mv = move
[00:42] <Ben64> EddieFTW: rsync works great too
[00:42] <EddieFTW> okay I'll try that in a second. one moment, just zipping up some files.
[00:42] <kruz> crap, laptop is going to die.  Ben64 thanks,  I'll use DD to wipe the drive once more outside of the ubuntu live disk
[00:43] <imbezol> kruz: fdisk -l /dev/sd[a-z]
[00:44] <imbezol> is your usb a 16 gig?
[00:47] <EddieFTW> Ben64:
[00:47] <EddieFTW> oops forgot to put mesage but anyways this has a weird set of  cmds
[00:48] <EddieFTW> going to msg u them
[00:48] <Ben64> EddieFTW: not sure what you're talking about
[00:48] <EddieFTW> what?
[00:50] <Ben64> EddieFTW: you've got to be more specific... what has a weird set of commands
[00:50] <EddieFTW> the hard drive. when you access it via the ftp cmd
[00:50] <EddieFTW> It doesn't have the move/copy commands when I am connected @Ben64
[00:51] <Ben64> why are you accessing a hard drive via ftp
[00:51] <zoohan> hi all =)
[00:51] <EddieFTW> Ben64:  its a "backup storage" provided by my hosting company
[00:51] <EddieFTW> I assume its a hard drive lol
[00:52] <Ben64> can you only access it using ftp
[00:52] <EddieFTW> yessir.
[00:53] <Ben64> then you use "get" to get a file and it will go in the directory you started "ftp" from
[00:53] <EddieFTW> thank you so much ^^
[01:01] <VolUTFan> Has anyone here ever setup a local apt-mirror repository? I have setup the mirror.list file with Trusy and Utopic both 32 and 64 bit architectures, but tying it into apache2 is somewhat confusing, since I have the us.archive.ubuntu.com security.ubuntu.com archive.canonical.com and a few others mirrored to my drive.  The instructions I have found online only address us.archive.ubuntu.com and pointing the simlink in www/html to the
[01:01] <VolUTFan> ubuntu directory.  The problem I am facing is that I have 4-5 different repos mirrored and they all have ubuntu directories.  Can anyone help on this?
[01:09] <Connor1_> volUTFan, are you there?
[01:11] <stevecam> hey i forgot to save a file in gedit before my system crashed, is there a location i can look in to attempt to recover this file?
[01:12] <bunt> hi
[01:16] <djb> Hello everyone.  I've got an annoying problem with 14.10 that my googling can't quite find a solution for.  My window buttons on some applications like the file browser, the video player and file dialog boxes have big buttons and no max/min.  http://www.users.on.net/~tsujigiri/weirdbuttons.png  Any ideas why this has happened?
[01:17] <stevecam> djb, every session?
[01:18] <popey> djb: did you install a ppa with some new version of GNOME in it?
[01:18] <djb> stevecam, yep and all users that I can see.
[01:18] <djb> popey, maybe, multiple users and others have added stuff.
[01:18] <leo43> er irc.immortal-anime.net
[01:19] <stevecam> djb, it appears that the window manager may not be loading properly, this may not offer a solution but you could attempt running unity in a console and look for errors, when this happens to me quite often its an issue with my graphics card
[01:19] <stevecam> ie. modules failing to load
[01:20] <popey> djb: i would open a guest session and see if it happens there
[01:20] <popey> djb: if it does then its probably a dodgy package installed from somewhere - you can look in /var/log/dpkg.log to see what arrived recently
[01:21] <stevecam> djb, if you fail to find a solution in the meantime using something like fluxbox or maybe kde might serve as a temporary solution. hope someone else is able to help you
[01:22] <djb> Might this be the source: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3/ubuntu utopic main
[01:25] <popey> djb: yes
[01:28] <djb> popey, if I remove that source how do I remove any packages that have come from it?
[01:28] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[01:29] <djb> Cool, thanks guys.
[01:30] <OerHeks> In your case, you need to add the ppa again, to fully reverse the packages
[01:32] <aurorauser> bill grates invented michaelsoftr
[01:32] <dingus1> !ppa
[01:32] <dingus1> ok, what is ppa?
[01:34] <dingus1> !ppa-purge
[01:36] <wafflejock> dingus1, you can /msg ubottu !ppa     directly too or PM ubottu
[01:36] <dingus1> ty
[01:37] <mekhami> I can't seem to change my default shell.
[01:38] <mekhami> I did sudo chsh -s /usr/bin/zsh, restarted terminal, and it's back to bash
[01:38] <mekhami> terminal is set to run as a login shell
[01:41] <mekhami> hm it seems to have worked when i did sudo usermod -s /usr/bin/zsh <username>
[01:47] <Guest14578> Need tips on installing Nvidia driver - please mssg me if you can help
[01:58] <forest_> can anyone help with an ssh issue? SSH server simply has no init.d or init file/script
[01:59] <jamesd_> forest_: did install openssh-server?
[02:01] <forest_> jamesd_: would openssh-server be a different package?
[02:01] <forest_> usr/bin/ssh exists
[02:02] <jamesd_> yes.. by default ubuntu doesn't install ssh server...
[02:02] <forest_> i seeeeee
[02:02] <jamesd_> does /usr/sbin/sshd  exist
[02:02] <forest_> no sir it does not
[02:02] <Techno> how do i install ubuntu on a windows xp tower?
[02:02] <jamesd_>  "were a desktop os"  you have to install sshd if you want it
[02:03] <Techno> do i install it via usb or dvd on a winxp tower
[02:03] <jamesd_> Techno: get virtualbox, vmware vierer and create guest, install ubuntu.. or burt a cd/dvd/ and blow away your current install
[02:03] <jamesd_> er burn a cd/dvd
[02:04] <Techno> what is the easiest way? via live usb?
[02:04] <forest_> jamesd_: thanks a ton
[02:15] <tdannecy> I'm running 12.04. Byobu isn't loading correctly on Putty. What do I have to do to get it to look normal? It looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/VEXzE3b.png
[02:23] <Kion> I have a remote server and when I log in is tell me this:
[02:23] <Kion> *** /dev/xvda1 should be checked for errors ***
[02:23] <Kion> how do I check that?
[02:23] <Kion> tried this: fsck /dev/xvda1
[02:24] <SuperMarioBro> Installing Nvidia driver - mssg me if you have done this
[02:24] <Kion> but after a terrible warning that I will break things, I stopped
[02:27] <k1l> Kion: dont fsck partitions that are mounted. unmount them first
[02:28] <Kion> k1l: I can't because it is my "hard drive" that i am using, is "touch /forcefsck" safe?
[02:28] <k1l> Kion: yes, then reboot
[02:28] <k1l> or start a live-system and do it from that system then
[02:32] <Bashing-om> SuperMarioBro: What is your problem to install a driver ? What card ? And Have you seen what "Additional Drivers" advises ?
[02:33] <Kion> k1l: thanks I will try the touch method
[02:53] <ddrk> i use the VLC to look at my nabor bathroom cam
[02:53] <ddrk> no work
[02:53] <ddrk> how cume?
[02:53] <cfhowlett> ddrk, stop your nonsense.  no one here is going to help your perversions.
[02:54] <ddrk> you have update patch for player
[02:54] <ddrk> ?
[02:54] <ddrk> nabor is 18 is ok
[02:54] <cfhowlett> !ops | ddrk
[02:54] <ddrk> nabor is 18 is ok!!
[02:54] <ddrk> no illegal
[02:54] <slooblack> nop
[02:55] <slooblack> look your neigourg is ilegal
[02:55] <slooblack> 18+ or not
[02:55] <ddrk> he no care
[02:55] <cfhowlett> ddrk, go away.
[02:55] <slooblack> go on you porn
[02:55] <ddrk> he no care is 18
[02:55] <slooblack> not on this chanel
[02:55] <ddrk> i need to see the weiner and holes
[02:56] <ddrk> on cam but no works
[02:56] <cfhowlett> !ops | ddrk porn spam
[02:56] <ddrk> he no is porn spam
[02:56] <ddrk> he boy
[02:56] <ddrk> i want to jack my flag to him go bathroom ;)
[02:57] <ddrk> and bathtub
[02:57] <ddrk> !ops cfhowlett
[02:57] <cfhowlett> Everyone: Hexchat irc client makes it very easy to /ignore trolls.  For example, I can no longer see ddrk's posts.  hexchat works.
[02:57] <slooblack> !ops | ddrk porn spam
[02:58] <slooblack> thank you
[03:07] <greves> i'm trying to use ubuntu in vmware workstation and it's having trouble with the screen resolution
[03:07] <greves> i've tried installing open-vm-tools but i can't seem to figure out where to configure it anywhere
[03:07] <greves> and the vmware-tools closed source version doesn't fix it either
[03:10] <bodgfj> does Ubuntu run fast on a ssd?
[03:11] <cfhowlett> bodgfj, compared to hdd, yes.
[03:12] <bodgfj> My PC gets very sluggish overtime no matter what I do, does Ubuntu remain consistant in terms of speed
[03:12] <EddieFTW> heya everyone. I made a account using useradd username then I did passwd username. when I connect, I get this:   Could not chdir to home directory /home/mcservers: No such file or directory
[03:12] <djb> Hey just dropping back in to say thanks to stevecam popey ubottu and someone else.  I removed the gnome3 ppa and now my windows are all now properly adorned.  Cheers guys!
[03:13] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, use useradd -m etc. etc. to create a home dir
[03:13] <EddieFTW> useradd -m username, Eric^^?
[03:13] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, useradd -m -g <groups to add to> <username>
[03:13] <EriC^^> sory wait
[03:14] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, useradd -m -G <groups to add to> <username>
[03:14] <EriC^^> just woke up
[03:14] <EddieFTW> groups? are those like permissions added to a group then if I assign the group to a username, it'll have the same permissions as the group?
[03:14] <EriC^^> groups are seperated by commas like adm,sudo,etc...
[03:16] <EddieFTW> what if I don't want a group? o.o
[03:16] <EddieFTW> EricC^^ ^
[03:17] <semitones> hey y'all. I had ubuntu connected to an external monitor only, which is now disconnected, and now my monitor is turned off. I'm on a virtual terminal now. How can I turn my main monitor back on from the cli?
[03:17] <zero_> hola?
[03:18] <cfhowlett> !es | zero_
[03:18] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, you can not use the -G option and it'll just be assigned to it's initial group ( whatever it's uid is )
[03:18] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, this explains what each group is for http://askubuntu.com/questions/219083/default-groups-for-user-in-ubuntu
[03:19] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, sorry i mean, whatever the username is
[03:19] <semitones> maybe there is some way to reset the displays section of ubuntu preferences?
[03:19] <semitones> I don't have google
[03:19] <EriC^^> semitones, why>
[03:19] <cfhowlett> semitones, you have cli access, yes?
[03:19] <EddieFTW> I'll let my system guy just handle all these cmds and just create the account lol.
[03:20] <semitones> yeah, but I don't have lynx installed or whatever you call it
[03:20] <EriC^^> lynx?
[03:20] <SchrodingersScat> !info links2
[03:20] <EriC^^> oh
[03:20] <semitones> EriC^^: ubuntu is not turning on my monitor because I had it turned off in settings while I was using an external monitor
[03:21] <semitones> cfhowlett: i have cli via the virtual terminal. that's how i'm on irssi
[03:21] <EriC^^> semitones, you can try removing ~/.gconf but i think it will reset a bunch of other stuff too
[03:21] <rww> "useradd is a low level utility for adding users. On Debian, administrators should usually use adduser(8) instead." ~ useradd manpage
[03:22] <cfhowlett> semitones, yep.  nuking .gconf would reset much
[03:22] <semitones> I don't want to do that if I can
[03:22] <semitones> I could wait until I have access to the external monitor again, then fix it via gui. But it seems like somewhere in .gconf maybe I can flip the setting from off to on
[03:23] <EddieFTW> EriC^^:  can I just make a directory in home called mcservers and then there you go xD?
[03:23] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, you'd have to add it to /etc/passwd
[03:24] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, remove and create the account, and use adduser if you want, it's interactive, i prefer useradd though
[03:24] <greves> anyone familiar with ubuntu in VM?
[03:24] <EddieFTW> EriC^^:  mcservers:x:1000:1000::/home/mcservers:
[03:24] <EddieFTW> like that? :P
[03:24] <yeats> greves: what's your question?
[03:24] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, yeah
[03:25] <greves> yeats: trying to get unity mode & drag drop working from windows 8
[03:25] <greves> vm workstation
[03:26] <greves> currently getting "The virtual machine cannot enter Unity mode because: - The guest operating system's resolution cannot be changed."
[03:26] <greves> and no drag/drop
[03:27] <yeats> greves: I haven't used vm workstation, but in virtualbox there are client-side addons you need to add - I'd look for something similar for vm workstation
[03:27] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, i think you should remove and create it again
[03:27] <EddieFTW> with what cmd?>
[03:27] <greves> yeats there's two, open-vm-tools which is in apt, and vmware-tools which comes with vmware
[03:27] <EddieFTW> adduseR?
[03:27] <greves> i've tried one, the other, and both
[03:27] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, i just tried doing that, and when i login nothing is created in the /home/dir so i guess you should recreate it
[03:28] <yeats> greves: well, in any case, it's more of a vmware issue than an ubuntu one :-/
[03:28] <EddieFTW> EriC^^: err so wait do you mean I use adduser...or?
[03:28] <EriC^^> useradd -r <username> , then useradd -m <username>
[03:28] <EriC^^> or useradd -r <username> , then adduser <username>
[03:28] <yeats> greves: you could try #vmware
[03:29] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, sorry, userdel -r <username>
[03:29] <greves> ok, thanks
[03:29] <EriC^^> not useradd -r
[03:29] <EddieFTW> okay
[03:30] <semitones> Can anyone help me figure out how to reset the display portion of gconf while I'm in CLI?
[03:30] <LinuxGold> I'm trying to find a right book for my son -- who wants to know more about linux
[03:30] <semitones> Either that, or force ubuntu to recognize my monitor when I login?
[03:30] <LinuxGold> I'm thinking something like bash shell scripting
[03:30] <LinuxGold> or do anyone have better suggestion?
[03:31] <EriC^^> semitones, you could create another account if you want
[03:31] <EriC^^> and check stuff out
[03:33] <EddieFTW> okay EriC^^  it works
[03:35] <EriC^^> semitones, you could force it on with xrandr --output <output> --auto
[03:35] <EriC^^> type xrandr and get its name first
[03:35] <EriC^^> EddieFTW, ok cool
[03:36] <Danato> is anyone here familiar with minicom? When I type an AT command, nothing shows up, the cursor just keeps blinking blank
[03:36] <Danato> I've used it before to successful unlock the same model, with the same settings
[03:36] <Bashing-om> LinuxGold: http://search.oreilly.com/?q=linux ; A large selection .
[03:37] <Danato> *modem
[03:37] <AegNuddel> oops
[03:37] <AegNuddel> I tried to install some software from the software center, but it said some package were untrusted.  So I tried from apt-get, and it seemed to install, but now I click on the icon, and nothing happens.  It won't even light up.
[03:39] <semitones> EriC^^: that command you gave me, does it work from virtual terminal as is? Do I need to find the real name of <output> ? if so how?
[03:39] <LinuxGold> thanks Bashing-om
[03:40] <Bashing-om> LinuxGold: :)
[03:40] <EriC^^> semitones, type xrandr to get its name
[03:41] <semitones> xrandr --output <output> --auto
[03:41] <EriC^^> semitones, no, it needs x
[03:41] <EriC^^> semitones, yes, get the name and add it to /~.profile just this once
[03:41] <bodgfj> hello
[03:41] <EriC^^> sorry, ~/.profile
[03:42] <bodgfj> Does Ubuntu run good with Nvidia GTX 560?
[03:42] <semitones> EriC^^: ok, but before we get to that step, how do I get back to the login screen on the X server?
[03:42] <bodgfj> I heard that Ubuntu likes ATI better or am I wrong?
[03:42] <EriC^^> semitones, sudo service lightdm restart
[03:42] <semitones> thanks
[03:43] <EriC^^> np
[03:43] <BobbyJindal> eric
[03:44] <semitones> EriC^^: alright I got the login screen back, but I never enabled guest accounts, so I can't login without turning off the display again. Should I learn how to enable guest accounts from cli?
[03:44] <AegNuddel> dang it
[03:45] <AegNuddel> I posted my issue
[03:45] <AegNuddel> is there someone who can help?
[03:46] <semitones> AegNuddel: try invoking the program from the commandline
[03:46] <cfhowlett> !patience | AegNuddel
[03:46] <BobbyJindal> ubuntu hacked me
[03:46] <AegNuddel> no it didn't.
[03:46] <BobbyJindal> it did.
[03:47] <AegNuddel> Impossible.  Ubuntu is not one monolith
[03:47] <EriC^^> semitones, what do you need guest accounts for?
[03:47] <aurorauser> is there a zfs forum?
[03:47] <BobbyJindal> Ubuntu deleted my system 32.
[03:47] <aurorauser> TROLLOLOLOL
[03:47] <cfhowlett> BobbyJindal, no it did not.
[03:47] <LinuxGold> wow it's shocking.
[03:47] <BobbyJindal> It did.
[03:47] <BobbyJindal> I was installing it...
[03:47] <BobbyJindal> and it said partition...
[03:47] <aurorauser> but srsly, is there a forum for ZFS
[03:48] <BobbyJindal> so I partitioned
[03:48] <aurorauser> and by forum
[03:48] <BobbyJindal> and now my system 32 is gone
[03:48] <aurorauser> i mean channel
[03:48] <cfhowlett> BobbyJindal, then you deleted it.  reinstall windows.
[03:48] <BobbyJindal> I dont know how to
[03:48] <bodgfj> will ubuntu run on Nvidia cards?
[03:48] <BobbyJindal> I've never installed it before
[03:48] <BobbyJindal> Yes.
[03:48] <LinuxGold> Winblowz
[03:48] <BobbyJindal> I've used it with my gtx660 for a while
[03:48] <bodgfj> but does it work smooth?
[03:49] <bodgfj> or is it choppy etc?
[03:49] <BobbyJindal> generally yea
[03:49] <BobbyJindal> not as great as windows but
[03:49] <cfhowlett> BobbyJindal, we can't help you install windows.  go to ##windows for assistance
[03:49] <BobbyJindal> if you're trying to game on linux you're gonna have a bad time
[03:49] <bodgfj> Oh I am not trying to game
[03:49] <bodgfj> I just am tryin g to do basic tasks
[03:49] <BobbyJindal> if it's just rendering and stuff you'll be fine
[03:49] <BobbyJindal> oh yea then.
[03:49] <BobbyJindal> You'll be fine.
[03:50] <semitones> EriC^^: Well I got lightdm back up, but xrandr still says 'can't open display' while it's in the virtual terminal. So I thought I would need to run xrandr from a terminal in GUI
[03:50] <EriC^^> semitones, oh, to get the name, right
[03:50] <BobbyJindal> Is there a known bug in LXDE where wheneever I hit the network icon it crashes?
[03:50] <BobbyJindal> I have it on a ubuntu server and it's fked
[03:50] <EriC^^> semitones, do useradd <user> , passwd <user> login get the name and get out
[03:51] <semitones> good idea
[03:54] <semitones> EriC^^: ok, I added a user, but it doesn't show up in lightdm after restarting light dm
[03:54] <AegNuddel> ok
[03:54] <AegNuddel> I saw my update manager giving me this:  They are apparently required for the program I want to run.
[03:54] <EriC^^> semitones, try using useradd -m <user>
[03:54] <AegNuddel> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[03:55] <EriC^^> sorry about that
[03:55] <AegNuddel> and then a list of packages
[03:55] <bodgfj> another question, what happens after the lts release goes out of date, do we have to delete everything and re-install?
[03:55] <AegNuddel> ca-certificates e2fslibs e2fsprogs firefox firefox-locale-en libcomerr2 libfreetype6 libpam-winbind libsmbclient libss2 libwbclient0 samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient winbind
[03:55] <EriC^^> bodgfj, you can run do-release-upgrade , or backup and fresh install
[03:55] <EriC^^> a fresh install would be preferable
[03:56] <Bashing-om> !eol | bod
[03:57] <bodgfj> ubuntu 14.04 is set to expire when?
[03:57] <bodgfj> 2019?
[03:57] <EriC^^> april 2019
[03:57] <EriC^^> yeah
[03:58] <bodgfj> ok
[03:58] <AegNuddel> Is there any way to override this?
[03:58] <semitones> EriC^^: Ok, it didn't work, but I was able to login under the Gnome display environment and get a terminal up. I think I found the name
[03:58] <semitones> trying xrander --output
[03:58] <aeon-ltd> bodgfj: i really think you'll upgrade hardware before the expiration date arrives
[03:58] <bodgfj> ok
[03:59] <Connor____> VolUTfan, if you see this, please message me
[03:59] <aeon-ltd> AegNuddel: well, if they are required i doubt it will run without at least some of those packages. what are you trying to install?
[03:59] <Connor____> Would someone be able to help me install Ubuntu from grub?
[03:59] <aeon-ltd> ... what do you mean from grub?
[04:00] <AegNuddel> puredata AegNuddel
[04:00] <Connor____> I downloaded magic part.iso and am in a blue screen where at the top it says gnu grub
[04:00] <Connor____> Would you be able to pm me and help me? It would be greatly appreciated
[04:00] <AegNuddel> puredata aeon-ltd
[04:01] <aeon-ltd> AegNuddel: ok, and why do you want to install it but not the suggested dependencies?
[04:02] <Connor____> I'm really confused
[04:02] <LinuxGold> Bashing-om  http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php  perfect one
[04:02] <Connor____> The thing is, I had Ubuntu, and then accidentally reformatted the drive
[04:02] <aeon-ltd> Connor____: magic part? as in this http://partedmagic.com/?
[04:02] <Connor____> So now nothing will boot
[04:02] <aeon-ltd> formatting means clearing, you done deleted everything
[04:02] <cfhowlett> Connor____, it's gone, Jim.
[04:03] <Bashing-om> LinuxGold: Glad ya found what helps .
[04:03] <aeon-ltd> i think you'll need to look into recovery tools if you want anything back
[04:04] <Connor____> Yeah, but someone was helping me before and helped me put a file onto a USB using a USB installation software
[04:04] <aeon-ltd> ok
[04:05] <Connor____> My computer recognizes it, and can boot to it but I'm not sure how to install Ubuntu from where I am
[04:05] <aeon-ltd> Connor____: let's just start again, what do you want to achieve? a fresh install of ubuntu?
[04:05] <Connor____> Yes please
[04:06] <aeon-ltd> Connor____: does that usb stick have a ubuntu installer on it?
[04:07] <Connor____> I believe it does
[04:07] <aeon-ltd> Connor____: well when you boot it does it give you the option to try ubuntu and install ubuntu?
[04:07] <Connor____> Let me restart it to make this clearer for you
[04:08] <Connor____> When I boot, it goes to a blue screen with some interesting lines on it, and has a menu that I can traverse
[04:09] <Connor____> At the top it says gnu grub version 2.00-ubuntu2
[04:09] <Connor____> If I press c, I can enter some type of command line
[04:09] <Connor____> Line
[04:09] <aeon-ltd> where did you get this ISO?
[04:10] <foxazteca> Hi
[04:10] <Giertrud_> puredata aeon-ltd
[04:10] <Connor____> I got it from someone's Dropbox who was helping me out. When I tried to create a bootable USB of Ubuntu, my PC was not recognizing it
[04:11] <cfhowlett> Connor____, ? suggest you get the ubuntu .iso FROM UBUNTU.
[04:11] <Giertrud_> got disconnected
[04:11] <Giertrud_> oops
[04:11] <Connor____> I did, but it didn't work that way. It wouldn't even boot
[04:11] <cfhowlett> !usb | Connor____,
[04:12] <AegNuddel> puredata aeon-ltd
[04:12] <EriC^^> andy__, hey man, hows it going, the video is working perfectly,
[04:12] <aeon-ltd> Connor____: what cfhowlett said, from what we can gather from what you've said it does not seem like a ubuntu install iso
[04:12] <aeon-ltd> AegNuddel: why don't you want the deps?
[04:12] <cfhowlett> Connor____, I take it you have a working windows PC??
[04:13] <AegNuddel> It's not that I do or do nowant them
[04:13] <Connor____> My PC currently has no os. I know, I screwed up
[04:13] <AegNuddel> not//////*
[04:13] <aeon-ltd> Connor____: what are you talking to us with?
[04:13] <Connor____> An iPad
[04:13] <cfhowlett> Connor____, !
[04:13] <aeon-ltd> geez
[04:13] <AegNuddel> ubuntu  not let me install them
[04:14] <aeon-ltd> Connor____: well somehow you're gonna have to get a usuable ubuntu iso onto that usb stick or other install medium so you can progress
[04:14] <cfhowlett> Connor____, nice.  OK, first you need to get to a PC.  THEN you get the ubuntu .iso.  THEN you create a boot USB
[04:14] <Connor____> Alright, thanks
[04:15] <aeon-ltd> AegNuddel: are you given the option to do anything?
[04:15] <AegNuddel> no
[04:16] <Connor____> Yes, I am in a menu that says at the top gnu grub version2.00ubuntu2
[04:16] <aeon-ltd> AegNuddel: how are you doing this? apt-get?
[04:16] <AegNuddel> I used apt-get but it didn't tell me anything went wrong
[04:16] <AegNuddel> I ed the s r at first
[04:17] <aeon-ltd> wut?
[04:17] <AegNuddel> I tried the software center first
[04:17] <AegNuddel> the package was found but could not install]
[04:18] <AegNuddel> oh
[04:18] <aeon-ltd> what?
[04:18] <AegNuddel> so I went to apt
[04:18] <AegNuddel> ca-certificates e2fslibs e2fsprogs firefox firefox-locale-en libcomerr2 libfreetype6 libpam-winbind libsmbclient libss2 libwbclient0 samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient winbind
[04:18] <AegNuddel> said they were untrusted
[04:19] <aeon-ltd> and...?
[04:20] <AegNuddel> I had no option to install them, so I tried via apt-get
[04:20] <Connor____> Can someone tell me how to pm someone
[04:21] <Connor____> VolUTFan it's me
[04:21] <cfhowlett> Connor____, first, ask their permission.  then /msg connor__ message goes here
[04:21] <AegNuddel> I thought it said the package installed
[04:21] <AegNuddel> packages
[04:21] <aeon-ltd> Connor____: unless we know what the heck is you actually booted or is on the usb stick we can't go further
[04:22] <gr33n7007h> Connor____: /msg <nick> "message"
[04:24] <Connor____> If I can just get a hold of VolUTFan, he knows
[04:25] <aeon-ltd> ok then
[04:27] <AegNuddel> is there still a way to create a launcher in Ubuntu?
[04:37] <BromeoAndCooliet> All you people out there who help others in this channel, I don't know why or how you have the patience to do it, but you're awesome people.
[04:38] <BromeoAndCooliet> just helping people for free who are really frustrated one way or another is really sweet
[04:40] <mojtaba> Hi, when I run users, it gives five times my user name. Do you know why?
[04:41] <Chunk2> you may have multiple entries for your user
[04:41] <Chunk2> That's possible in linux.  User IDs are keyed numerically, but they can share the same name
[04:41] <kelvinella> hi how to mount a network drive which is not in local lan?
[04:42] <kelvinella> for example do i need to specific the port number?
[04:42] <Chunk2> kelvinella: Do you know about port forwarding?
[04:42] <Chunk2> kelvinella: actually, scratch that question, what kind of network setup do you have?
[04:43] <mojtaba> Chunk2: I have just logged in once through GUI, though.
[04:43] <kelvinella> sudo mount -t cifs -o credentials=/home/user/.smb,uid=1000 //123.123.123.123:5000/dir /mnt/tmp ??
[04:44] <kelvinella> Chunk2, originally I have sudo mount -t cifs -o credentials=/home/user/.smb,uid=1000 //192.168.0.10/dir /mnt/tmp
[04:44] <Chunk2> mojtaba: look at your /etc/passwd and see if there are multiple entries for your name.  If there are, then my initial hypothesis was correct.
[04:45] <kelvinella> but now I am outside the LAN network and it is NAS with port number 5000
[04:45] <mojtaba> Chunk2: There is just one entry.
[04:45] <Chunk2> kelvinella: read about NAT and port forwarding.
[04:45] <Chunk2> mojtaba: then that wasn't the problem
[04:46] <kelvinella> Chunk2, I already port forwarded.  My question is do I need to put //123.123.123.123:5000/dir instead of just //123.123.123.123/dir ??
[04:46] <semitones> EriC^^: I was never able to solve the problem with the cli
[04:46] <azizLIGHT> is it possible to have hotcorners with dual displays, on the edge where monitors meet? i ahve tried with sticky edges on/off and i cant get it to do hotcorners for that edge
[04:47] <semitones> EriC^^: so I went and got the external monitor, plugged it in, and fixed it through the GUI
[04:47] <mojtaba> Chunk2: Do you know what is it then?
[04:47] <semitones> in conclusion, cli sucks?
[04:47] <semitones> :P
[04:47] <Chunk2> mojtaba: nothing comes to mind
[04:47] <Chunk2> kelvinella: read about NAT and port forwarding.  The short answer is maybe.  It depends on how the port is forwarded.
[04:47] <mojtaba> Does anybody knows why when I execute users, there is 5 entries of my user name?
[04:48] <mojtaba> Chunk2: thx
[04:49] <kelvinella> Chunk2, what do u mean?
[04:58] <celexi> how do i clean up all these older kernels
[04:58] <celexi> after updating
[04:58] <AegNuddel> If a superuser gets a bad cold, do you give h/im/er/ze sudofed?
[04:58] <celexi> have quite a few now
[05:03] <eddieftw> hey everyone.
[05:03] <eddieftw> I have ubuntu server finally installed but I have this one problem where all my ram is being used..
[05:04] <eddieftw> I am hosting 2 minecraft servers and they are both using 4GB.
[05:04] <eddieftw> I only have 160MB free out of 32GB ^^
[05:07] <zwischenzug> hello.  i'm having some problems with "curl".  don't know if this is the right channel, but here is what's happening: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10421779/ Anyone know what's going on?
[05:12] <pavlos> celexi, this may help ... http://azloco.org/node/183
[05:19] <celexi> thanks pavlos
[05:19] <celexi> i just used synaptic to remove them
[05:19] <celexi> then updated grub
[05:19] <celexi> worked fine so far
[05:25] <BlackDalek> HELP! I am trying to make a presentation with LibreOffice Impress... I want to use the transition "fade smoothly" but it flickers an all white frame at start of transition and another all white frame at end of transition.. it's majorly annoying :( My Ubuntu is 64bit 14.04, graphics is Intel® Ivybridge Mobile, Impress is 4.2.7.2, and my OpenGL is 3.0 Mesa 10.1.3 - Any ideas how to fix white flashing on openGL transition
[05:25] <BlackDalek> s?
[05:29] <BlackDalek> If anyone here is able to help, it would be appreciated because I need to get this fixed for meeting tonight! Cheers ;)
[05:33] <skwishy> hey guys, can someone tell me how to change the audio output, from command line?
[05:34] <skwishy> it works just fine in the gui sound config tool, I can select from multiple "Play sound through" outputs, but I'd like to script this somehow
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: you have the right grafix drivers loaded?
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !sound | skwishy
[05:34] <skwishy> lotuspsychje: that all works, but I'd like to do it from bash
[05:35] <BlackDalek> I have whatever graphics Ubuntu deemed necessary when it installed the OS.
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: can you check sudo lshw -C video
[05:35] <skwishy> lotuspsychje: also, I would like to somehow detect what my current sound output is set to, via a python script
[05:36] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I checked it. It generated results... what info am I looking for?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: what driver shows after driver=
[05:37] <Lazuratus> Hello, are there any fuse filesystems that would allow mounting an existing read-only mount, and allow me to rename folders (keeping changes in file(s) or a database) ?
[05:38] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, it says driver=i915
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: should be good indeed
[05:38] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, the product description and vendor details sound correct too.
[05:38] <skwishy> lotuspsychje: I think maybe pacmd and pactl to control pulseaudio is what I'm looking for, at least according to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/14077/how-can-i-change-the-default-audio-device-from-command-line
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: try start libreoffice from terminal, and see if you got any errors from there
[05:43] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I tried starting impress from terminal and loaded up my presentation and started slideshow at point where the trouble is... nothing was generated in the terminal, errors or otherwise. :(
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: so the flickering must come from graphics i think
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: you could try tweak compiz with lower graphics settings with ccsm or unity-tweak-tool
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: or check syslog and dmesg logs for errors
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: you have this flickering in any other program?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> just for the info Bq will hold a third flash sale with ubuntu phones today, more info at #ubuntu-touch
[05:48] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I've not noticed it on any other program. As far as I know it is unique to OpenGL transitions in Libreoffice Impress. Not everyone experiences it, but there are reports of other users with same problem. No solution seems to have been found but the consensus seems to be that LibreOffice is not at fault and the fault is with user's graphics or OpenGL drivers....
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: yes, thats what i tought..i would try everything to tweak grafix candyeye, see if it helps
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: disable active blur in unity, and tweak other settings
[05:52] <rocknrye> I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 LTS but, the installer says I dont have enough room to install. I did install debian, and that could be the reason. Also gpared says i have no disk. SO what the hell is going on?????
[05:54] <bynarie> rocknrye, can u take a screenshot/picture?
[05:54] <rocknrye> Yes
[05:54] <bynarie> k
[05:57] <feven> i have installed cacti in my  ubuntu  but  i have get aproblem with snmp information error any help please?
[05:59] <rocknrye> bynarie, http://imgur.com/ZyQChOa         http://imgur.com/9gLsGqw
[06:01] <rocknrye> bynarie, Did i spell your nick wrong ?
[06:02] <feven> i have installed cacti in my  ubuntu  but  i have get aproblem with snmp information error any help please?
[06:02] <rocknrye> feven, Google?
[06:03] <VolUTFan> If Connor comes back tell him to ping me on msg.  He logged off and said he had to go earlier, so I thought he wasn't coming back
[06:04] <feven> rocknrye: I have already Google  it but no resources that can solve my problem
[06:04] <rocknrye> feven, That sucks
[06:05] <feven> rocknrye: thanks
[06:09] <feven> i have installed cacti in my  ubuntu  but  i have get aproblem with snmp information error any help please?
[06:21] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I installed compiz config settings manager and unity tweak tool... could not find any blur setting. Not sure where to look.
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: in ccsm, the unity plugin, then dig for background blur or something
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: set to: no blur
[06:23] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, found it thanks. Will see if anything changes.
[06:25] <IRC_> anybody know how to update xchat via terminal(like sudo apt-get)?
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> IRC_: if you sudo apt-get update, everything will update, xchat also
[06:26] <morfin> hello
[06:27] <morfin> what permissions should i give to files(owner/permissions) when creating own dev package?
[06:27] <morfin> *deb package
[06:28] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, no blur made no difference to LibreOffice :(
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: not sure then mate, im out of ideas
[06:31] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I got to get this working by tonight, so I don't see I have any other choice but to change all fade transitions to "no transition". :( sucks.
[06:36] <byaru561>  /msg NickServ SETPASS byaruhaf nftgqaphjyax Etom1234
[06:36] <morfin> should i use permissions 755 for my files in own .deb?
[06:40] <cluelessperson> byaru561, you just did that in public
[06:58] <citroniks> help
[07:05] <beepie> citroniks, ?
[07:06] <beepie> citroniks, you mad?
[07:06] <cluelessperson> beepie, I fuckign hate that.
[07:07] <beepie> cluelessperson, help
[07:08] <beepie> !language
[07:08] <beepie> ^
[07:25] <CharlotteFields> where do I find a ppd for a printer, I'm trying to install my cannon mg2560 using CUPS but I can't find the ppd for it and its not on the list.
[07:25] <CharlotteFields> can't find it on the cannon downloads either.
[07:31] <hateball> CharlotteFields: for the most part the PPD is bundled inside windows postscript drivers, you have to extract them using something like cabextract if the regular archive manager doesnt open it
[07:31] <CharlotteFields> so...the install cd or just getting the windows driver would be fine (then doing as you said) ?
[07:32] <CharlotteFields> I ended up installing some linux driver i found instead...but i think it's the full software suite too :/
[07:32] <hateball> CharlotteFields: yes
[07:32] <CharlotteFields> but thank you anyway, I did it in the past and forgot how
[07:43] <dotnetted> Hey all - I'm looking to get wildcarded dns entries on 14.01 - I disabled NetworkManager's dnsmasq and installed a full copy - nslookup and digg are both resolving correctly but firefox isn't going through dnsmasq for any *.local domain lookups - why might this be?
[07:43] <hateball> CharlotteFields: Looking at Canons webpage they even offer Linux packages? No idea how well they work tho. You could probably rip the PPD out of the debs at any rate
[07:43] <CharlotteFields> yeah i just installed a package...should have looked for the ppd.
[07:43]  * CharlotteFields facepalms
[07:46] <CharlotteFields> hateball: doesn't seem to be in there, I went through common and mg2500 debs
[07:48] <hateball> CharlotteFields: it's in cnijfilter-mg2500series-4.00-1-deb.tar.gz
[07:48] <CharlotteFields> I don't have that :/
[07:49] <CharlotteFields> what the heck did i just install.. eugh
[07:49] <hateball> CharlotteFields: http://supportdrivers.info/canon-pixma-mg2560-drivers-for-win8_7_mac_linux/ second driver from the bottom
[07:49] <hateball> is what I looked at
[07:50] <CharlotteFields> i just got scangearmp-mg2500series-2.20-1-deb.tar.gz
[07:50] <hateball> well that contains the scanner bits it would seem
[07:50] <CharlotteFields> but i dont know how to uninstall it now, i dont want it conflicting with CUPS
[07:50] <hateball> well how did you install it?
[07:52] <CharlotteFields> ran install.sh  after looking through it the script seems to pick up --uninstall argument
[07:52] <hateball> the things here have an install script that also seems to offer uninstall
[07:52] <Guest72381> hi, does anybody know how i can get a list of installable programs with sudo apt-get?
[07:52] <CharlotteFields> aaded that to it, nothing happened.
[07:52] <Guest72381> like all the possible programs you can install instantly with sudo apt-get
[07:53] <Ben64> Guest72381: "apt-cache search ."
[07:53] <Ben64> Guest72381: but i'm sure you don't want to do that
[07:54] <CharlotteFields> I can't read bash files too well so i dont understand the uninstall process
[07:54] <Guest72381> why? get bombarded with like a million options?
[07:55] <CharlotteFields> yep Guest72381, pretty much
[07:55] <hateball> Guest72381: you can  cat /var/lib/apt/lists/repo-file as desired
[07:55] <Guest72381> ok, thanks guys
[07:57] <hateball> CharlotteFields: running the script with no arguments should show you them
[07:57] <hateball> or at least with -h or --help
[07:57] <CharlotteFields> hateball: running script with no arguments runs install process and i have read enough to figure out how to uninstall it i think
[07:58] <hateball> CharlotteFields: I see
[07:59] <CharlotteFields> eh no still doesnt make sense i'll try -h
[07:59] <dotnetted> If resolv.conf contains "nameserver 127.0.0.1" and "dig foo.local @127.0.0.1" returns the correct IP (as defined in dnsmasq config) when why would ping not be able to resolve foo.local?
[07:59] <CharlotteFields> uninstall isnt mentioned there hateball
[07:59] <hateball> CharlotteFields: ugh, gonna have to read through the script then I guess
[07:59] <CharlotteFields> but in the install .sh --uninstall is an option with a switch further down the file..
[08:00] <CharlotteFields> i understand it does sudo dpkg -P <debfiles> but thats it
[08:03] <CharlotteFields> http://pastebin.com/SbS3Ve2u is the script...it should accept --uninstall
[08:09] <Trinity> hi guys, i was using mousepad and then my computer crashed. Is there anyway I can recover the files? This post said to look in /.cache
[08:09] <Trinity> https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=3431
[08:09] <Trinity> my current mousepad version is 3.0.2
[08:10] <memoryleak> I'm going to test a backup and I want to "destroy" a cloud server, what would be the best way? dd on the disk?
[08:18] <Rust3dCor3> Hello. I need to use a new shell. Is there any shell that acts like bash, but is looks like fish (tab completion and colors)
[08:23] <White_Cat> Okay so when I boot to ubuntu server I get the grub prompt
[08:23] <White_Cat> I am unsure whats wrong
[08:26] <ubuntu-studio> White_Cat, try reinstalling grub
[08:34] <arman> Hi
[08:39] <Trinity> is there anyway to recover a crashed unsaved mousepad file?
[08:40] <ubuntu-studio> trinity nope.
[08:40] <Trinity> :((((((
[08:41] <ubuntu-studio> trinity save early, save often.
[08:46] <Trinity> ubuntu-studio, since I never saved will mousepad have saved everything in RAM rather than a text file temporarily?
[08:47] <ubuntu-studio> Trinity, well, it WAS in ram, but everything you've done since you dropped the file has impacted ram so whatever is left there is beyond recovery.
[08:48] <White_Cat> ubuntu-studio okay but what broke?
[08:48] <White_Cat> All I did was upgrade
[08:48] <White_Cat> EriC^^ you around?
[08:49] <ubuntu-studio> White_Cat, I'd guess a kernel  upgrade that grub didn't fully capture
[08:50] <White_Cat> so I would need live cd then?
[08:50] <EriC^^> White_Cat: hey sorry cant talk much right now keyboard is broke, what's up though?
[08:50] <White_Cat> http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/776643-how-to-rescue-a-non-booting-grub-2-on-linux/ <- bad idea?
[08:50] <White_Cat> EriC^^ my boot broke with last upgrade
[08:51] <ubuntu-studio> !grub2 | White_Cat, yes.
[08:51] <EriC^^> White_Cat: what do you mean?
[08:51] <White_Cat> EriC^^ I get to grub prompt like before
[08:51] <White_Cat> I think I upgraded from ubuntu 14.04.1 -> 14.04.2
[08:51] <EriC^^> ok
[08:52] <EriC^^> r u in a live usb right now?
[08:52] <White_Cat> no but will be ina min
[08:53] <Trinity> damn... can't even use dd
[08:56] <gumble> hi, I installed quite a few linux programs last time. I now have around 10 partitions with leftovers of the different bootloaders from fedora and opensuse. How do I quickly identify which partitions windows uses and needs, delete the rest and install ubuntu then?
[08:56] <EriC^^> gumble: windows wont need ext4 partitions
[08:57] <gumble> what about xfs and btrfs or so?
[08:57] <gumble> I have one partition of both
[09:00] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ back
[09:00] <White_Cat_> yeah I am in
[09:01] <White_Cat_> sorry it had taken a while for wifi to decide to work
[09:01] <ubuntu-studio> White_Cat_, reinstalled grub??
[09:01] <White_Cat_> not yet
[09:01] <EriC^^> ok type sudo parted -l
[09:01] <White_Cat_> just booted into live
[09:01] <EriC^^> and sudo efibootmgr -v
[09:01] <White_Cat_> yup
[09:02] <White_Cat_> efibiitmgr not found
[09:02] <White_Cat_> boot even
[09:02] <EriC^^> install it
[09:03] <White_Cat_> should I not mount partitions first?
[09:03] <EriC^^> no
[09:03] <EriC^^> paste both commands
[09:03] <White_Cat_> sure
[09:06] <Help> hi
[09:07] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ I pmed you the two pastes
[09:07] <Guest43558> hi
[09:08] <Guest43558> im looking for fan/smart apt for linux into unity
[09:08] <Guest43558> if you guys has some good one, plz share :)
[09:09] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[09:10] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: type sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/boot/efi
[09:10] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: is secure boot disabled?
[09:12] <White_Cat_> yeah
[09:12] <White_Cat_> it is
[09:13] <White_Cat_> I did mount those btw
[09:13] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: ok
[09:14] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[09:15] <White_Cat_> yup
[09:16] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: sudo chroot /mnt
[09:16] <White_Cat_> yup
[09:16] <White_Cat_> for i am root; done
[09:16] <drag0nius> how do i change my own locale without restarting the server?
[09:17] <EriC^^> grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[09:17] <Trinity> i just ran dd if=/dev/mem of=/home/sam/mem.bin bs=1024 and I when I open mem.bin it's empty. file size says 1M
[09:17] <ikonia> Trinity: what do you expect ?
[09:17] <ikonia> Trinity: /dev/mem cannot be used like that
[09:17] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ it is installing or x85_64-efi platform
[09:18] <White_Cat_> it finished it without errors
[09:18] <EriC^^> ok
[09:18] <Trinity> I don't expect to find 1Megabyte worth of ram, but I expect something
[09:18] <Trinity> instead of an empty file
[09:18] <EriC^^> update-grub
[09:18] <White_Cat_> it found stuff end ended with done
[09:18] <EriC^^> ok
[09:18] <White_Cat_> 4 generic images under boot
[09:19] <White_Cat_> they seem to be duplicates save for a slight version difference
[09:19] <ikonia> Trinity: Trinity did you use "sudo"
[09:19] <EriC^^> can you pastebin cat /etc/fstab
[09:19] <Trinity> ikonia, yup
[09:19] <Trinity> even did sudo -s
[09:19] <ikonia> Trinity: just looked on my machine and the first meg was empty
[09:19] <ikonia> so you've just "cat'd" empty memory
[09:20] <Trinity> ikonia, i ran strings /home/sam/mem.bin and I got some characters including a public/private key
[09:20] <ikonia> Trinity: great, so it's not empty
[09:20] <White_Cat_> pmed
[09:20] <Trinity> ikonia, why would mousepad not show anything?
[09:21] <ikonia> Trinity: mousepad ?
[09:21] <Trinity> text editor
[09:21] <ikonia> Trinity: don't know that editor so can't answer
[09:22] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ is it normal for ubuntu to uninstal efi like this?
[09:22] <Trinity> ikonia, same for LeafPad
[09:22] <ikonia> Trinity: don't know that editor either
[09:22] <White_Cat_> or is it not installed by default because its live cd?
[09:23] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: does blkid /dev/sda2 show the same uuid?
[09:23] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: no
[09:23] <White_Cat_> uid does match
[09:24] <White_Cat_> but there were 2 uids in the first command
[09:24] <EriC^^> efi is fine cause you're getting grub
[09:24] <White_Cat_> well second is for backup drive
[09:24] <White_Cat_> so kernel got nuked?
[09:25] <EriC^^> maybe
[09:25] <vlt> Hello. When I create a file (or directory) it gets permissions 0644 (resp. 0755).  How can I configure for one directory and all its subdirectories that new files (or dirs) get 0664 (0775) permissions?
[09:25] <EriC^^> did u hold shift and try an older one?
[09:25] <vlt> (I could put that directory to an extra file system if necessary.)
[09:28] <mcphail> vlt: i maight be wrong but I'm not sure you can do that on a per-directory basis. The permissions are usually set according to your umask which is a global
[09:29] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ shift key?
[09:29] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: yes
[09:29] <White_Cat_> I am unsure what that is
[09:29] <White_Cat_> you mean on grub prompt?
[09:29] <EriC^^> before that
[09:30] <slax0r> hi, what's the defacto way of enabling ipforwarding on ubuntu? sysctl.conf? or does ubuntu have any "special" config file for this?
[09:30] <White_Cat_> I dont remember ever doing that but I can try now if you like
[09:30] <EriC^^> to get a grub menu
[09:30] <White_Cat_> I directly get to the grub prompt instead of being given other opotions
[09:30] <vlt> mcphail: Hmmm, and how can I set this umask?
[09:30] <White_Cat_> should I reboot?
[09:31] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: ok, type exit then reboot see what happens if you get a grub prompt restart and hold shift and choose an older kernel
[09:32] <mcphail> vlt: actually, see if this helps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/44534/how-to-set-umask-for-a-specific-folder
[09:32] <White_Cat_> rebooting
[09:33] <White_Cat_> first I am trying a regular boot
[09:33] <EriC^^> ok
[09:34] <vlt> mcphail: Thank you!
[09:34] <White_Cat_> I got a general protection exception
[09:34] <White_Cat_> its red with plenty of text
[09:34] <White_Cat_> reboot and try shift?
[09:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:35] <mcphail> vlt: never tried that way so don't know if it works. I always used a more complex approach with incron scripts
[09:35] <mcphail> vlt: i wouldn't recommend my way ...:)
[09:37] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ I cant
[09:37] <White_Cat_> it complains about an invalid environmental block and near instantly goes to the red screen
[09:38] <frimend> I installed ubuntu yesterday, and during the process my computer downloaded a bunch of packets. However now once it's installed and I'm by the desktop, I have no internet connection.
[09:38] <frimend> So I had internet connection during install, but not afterards.
[09:38] <frimend> What could be the problem?
[09:38] <ikonia> frimend: the installer comes with certain "driver" packages by default
[09:39] <ikonia> frimend: the installed system maybe missing them - sometimes due to legal requirements
[09:39] <frimend> ah
[09:40] <frimend> come to think about it, I did specify that I picked "only drivers relevant to my system" instead of "huge package of drivers"
[09:40] <sheer> does mac use ext4 format?
[09:41] <sheer> or FAT?
[09:41] <ikonia> sheer: do you mean OSX or ubuntu running on a mac
[09:41] <sheer> i mean OSX on mac
[09:41] <ikonia> it uses jfs
[09:41] <mcphail> ikonia: hfs, surely?
[09:41] <White_Cat_> error: invalid environmental block
[09:41] <_RadioHead> .
[09:41] <ikonia> sorry fat fingers
[09:41] <ikonia> hfs
[09:41] <k1l_> sheer: it doesnt use any of them
[09:41] <White_Cat_> then to the general protection exception
[09:42] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ should I boot to live cd again?
[09:42] <ikonia> sheer: if you need help with the mac be aware of ##macosx
[09:42] <ikonia> sorry #macosx
[09:43] <ajnr> Hi , how to convert multiple .jpg image file to .eps image file using convert command?
[09:44] <ajnr> ,convert
[09:44] <hadifarnoud> my rc.local is empty on 14.04
[09:44] <Guest72078> ajnr, imagemagick if I'm not mistaken
[09:44] <hadifarnoud> a tutorial is asking me to 'add' a line to it.
[09:44] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ I was in this situation before then we built/installed kernel and it was fixed
[09:44] <ikonia> hadifarnoud: you should not need to do that
[09:45] <ikonia> hadifarnoud: there are very few situations that should be using rc.local
[09:45] <hadifarnoud> ikonia: http://safesrv.net/setup-openvpn-with-obfsproxy-on-ubuntu/
[09:45] <hadifarnoud> how should I change this step then ikonia?
[09:45] <White_Cat_> which is the correct kernel anyways
[09:45] <ikonia> hadifarnoud: that guide in my opinion looks poor
[09:45] <White_Cat_> it  listed 4 entries where they were pairs
[09:45] <hadifarnoud> yeah, that's the only one I found on obfsproxy with ovpn
[09:45] <ikonia> hadifarnoud: a big problem is probably due to how old an dout of date it is
[09:46] <ajnr> Guest72078, I have used convert command for single file and it works , but for multiple file say I have 1.jpg, 2.jpg and then if I gave convert *.jpg *.eps I got the file name as *1.eps, *2.eps like that
[09:46] <hadifarnoud> ikonia: can you please tell me what should that step be?
[09:46] <ikonia> hadifarnoud: that whole guide is wrong/bad - so I'm not going to update 1 step when the whole guide looks poor to me
[09:46] <Guest72078> ajnr, phatch photo  batch converter is the app
[09:46] <mcphail> ajnr: you need to explore "for" syntax in the shell, which is probbaly best done in a more specific channel
[09:47] <ikonia> hadifarnoud: you can still use rc.local if you want though
[09:47] <hadifarnoud> ikonia: but what should be in it?
[09:47] <ikonia> nothing
[09:47] <ikonia> it's empty as it's pretty much not used these days
[09:47] <hadifarnoud> I just add the line? that's it?
[09:47] <ajnr> mcphail, can you give some example
[09:47] <ikonia> hadifarnoud: I advise against it, but if you want to
[09:47] <hadifarnoud> without 'exit 0' ?
[09:47] <Ben64> ajnr: mogrify -format eps *.jpg
[09:48] <hadifarnoud> ikonia: there is no other guide for what I'm doing. so, I'm not bothered
[09:48] <ajnr> Ben64, okey
[09:48] <ikonia> I am bothered
[09:48] <ikonia> I'm not going to advies you to follow a bad guide
[09:49] <hadifarnoud> ikonia: dude, unless you have the time to update me on each step, I can't do it.
[09:49] <mcphail> ajnr: for file in *; do convert $file -whatever -synatx - the -command -uses; done
[09:49] <Ben64> mcphail: so much more difficult than what i posted above :)
[09:49] <ikonia> hadifarnoud: I'd be asking myself why there are no other guides, eg: it's a bad setup
[09:49] <mcphail> ajnr: but that breaks if any files have spaces in the filename. As I said, probably best discussed in a more specific channel
[09:50] <hadifarnoud> ikonia: it's perhaps because very few people use ovpn to bypass internet censorship in a country like Iran
[09:50] <ajnr> it works with the Ben64 idea . Thanks
[09:50] <mcphail> Ben64: missed that ;)
[09:50] <ikonia> hadifarnoud: I don't believe so, I beleive it's because that guide is bad and that setup/concept in that guide is bad/wrong
[09:50] <hadifarnoud> norman ovpn is not working as they use deep packet inspection to detect it ikonia
[09:51] <hadifarnoud> ikonia: how can I hide my openvpn footprint against a damn good firewall?
[09:51] <hadifarnoud> I'd love to do it another way
[09:51] <ikonia> hadifarnoud: that is a different question
[09:52] <ikonia> the guys in ##security maybe able to offer more detailed options
[09:52] <hadifarnoud> trust me ikonia, this the best option. as I said, nobody cares to write a guide for poor guys in Iran/China in English
[09:52] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: sorry back
[09:52] <ikonia> hadifarnoud: I don't believe it is the best option, as I've said,
[09:53] <hadifarnoud> alright, I googled around a lot. I'll ask in IRC too ikonia.
[09:53] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: yes boot the live usb and mount and chroot as earlier
[09:56] <vlt> I tried to set a new UMASK value in /etc/login.defs but it's ignored on login. Then I found ~/.profile which has a commented umask command. I set that to a new umask, logged out and in again but get still the pld one. Any idea how to change the umask for the user?
[09:56] <mcphail> vlt: are you creating the files from the terminal or the gui filemanager?
[09:57] <umbra_purus> how to check current connections to my linux?
[09:57] <umbra_purus> how to check current connections to my linux???
[09:59] <umbra_purus> ???
[09:59] <White_Cat_> ok
[09:59] <anhvu> hi everyone...
[09:59] <umbra_purus> can someone tell me how to check my connections
[09:59] <umbra_purus> ?
[09:59] <Ben64> umbra_purus: patience
[09:59] <EriC^^> umbra_purus: what do you mean?
[09:59] <anhvu> ping or telnet @unbra_purus
[10:00] <mcphail> vlt: i think ubuntu still uses 2 different ways to control umasks - the traditional way and pam_umask. For the latter, edit /etc/login.defs and log back in. On an old debian machine just now so can't check
[10:00] <plantain> hi, so I have the livecd for 14.04, but when I boot it, it panics complaining about the radeon drivers. I have a modern ATI card in my machine. how do I boot it in VESA or something?
[10:00] <umbra_purus> what connections are currently in my pc?
[10:00] <EriC^^> nmcli con status
[10:01] <anhvu> you can use iptraf or iftop
[10:01] <umbra_purus> me?
[10:01] <anhvu> to view connection to your host
[10:01] <anhvu> yes
[10:01] <EriC^^> or netstat -tuln umbra_purus
[10:01] <anhvu> anyone connect to you
[10:01] <Guest72078> !nomodeset | plantain,
[10:03] <umbra_purus> how can I check if someone else is connected? I've used netstat -tuln but how can I read it?
[10:03] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: type dpkg -l |grep linux-image
[10:03] <White_Cat_> sure
[10:03] <Ben64> umbra_purus: netstat will show you all connections, you have to figure out what it means
[10:04] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ pmed you the paste
[10:04] <sheer> can someone help me format a corrupted external HDD?
[10:04] <sheer> using linux :)
[10:04] <sheer> ubuntu in fact
[10:04] <anhvu> apt-get install iptraf
[10:04] <Ben64> sheer: use gparted
[10:04] <vlt> mcphail: I need this umask for users that create files and folders with gui file managers and programs like office.
[10:05] <umbra_purus> dont use gparted
[10:05] <anhvu> please you iptraf
[10:05] <Ben64> gparted is fine
[10:05] <vlt> mcphail: I edited /etc/login.defs but see no effect.
[10:05] <umbra_purus> if you want to recover files from it first I suggest follow DIY Parts tips in "Recoverying files in corrupt hdd"
[10:05] <Ben64> recovery wasn't the question at all
[10:05] <mcphail> vlt: i vaguely remember nautilus has a hard-coded umask which you can't change. Don't know if that has altered since i last looked a few years ago
[10:06] <umbra_purus> He even gives tips about using only uncorrupt parts of the disk to store your files
[10:06] <sheer> umbra_purus, is that a #ubuntu resource?
[10:06] <sheer> what is DIY Parts tips?
[10:06] <Ben64> sheer: you want to format? use gparted
[10:06] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ why would there be four of each kind of linux image?
[10:07] <sheer> ben, downloading it
[10:07] <umbra_purus> nop.
[10:07] <umbra_purus> go check DIY Parts in youtube. it's a channel
[10:08] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: older kernels
[10:08] <sheer> ok ty
[10:08] <Ben64> umbra_purus: sheer is asking about formatting, not recovery
[10:08] <svetlana> "use gparted"
[10:08] <bekks> umbra_purus: For recovering files, I stringly suggest professional support instead causing even more damage.
[10:09] <bekks> *strongly
[10:09] <svetlana> he does not want to recover here
[10:09] <sheer> Ben64, he was giving me a heads up
[10:09] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: you can try to purge the last one or modify grub to boot an older one by default
[10:09] <sheer> thanks guys
[10:09] <umbra_purus> bekks: actually the tips he gives are really helpful in that video. I suggest, if you're insterested in finding out if my info is good, check the video
[10:09] <bekks> svetlana: I was answering to his suggestion of "DIY Parts" for recovering files.
[10:10] <Ben64> umbra_purus: doubtful. you should never recover to the same drive
[10:10] <svetlana> ok
[10:10] <svetlana> good word
[10:10] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ how exactly can I do that?
[10:11] <vlt> mcphail: The umask I see when running the umask command on the terminal ist still 0022. How can I let the value I set in /etc/login.defs affect this?
[10:11] <White_Cat_> In windows bootloader you get a 5 second delay to choose your os, is there a way to do this similarly?
[10:11] <White_Cat_> it would defualt to a certain one
[10:12] <White_Cat_> I just am worried about future manifestation of this
[10:12] <bekks> vlt: 0022 is the default. Whats the actual goal you are trying to reach?
[10:13] <Guest72078> grub problem:  just bought the DELL Precision m3800 Developer Edition.  Used a 14.04.2 USB to create a /home partition.  Upon reboot the Dell Restore Factory Settings and Diagnostics are gone.  I verified that those partitions are still on the SSD, but grub doesn't see them.  What to do?
[10:13] <vlt> bekks: I want new files and directories created by users to have 0664 (resp. 0775) permissions. I want this in one firectory and its subdirectories only (and could put this on an extra file system if necessary) but if that's not so easy I could live with a system or user wide setting.
[10:13] <ikonia> grub should not see the restore partitions
[10:14] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: type nano /etc/default/grub
[10:14] <rhalff> I just did a rm -rf <my_entire_dev_dir>, is there a tool available to undo this? partition type is ext2...
[10:14] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: add a # before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[10:14] <Guest72078> ikonia, it did before I clean installed
[10:14] <hateball> !undelete | rhalff
[10:14] <ikonia> Guest72078: seems odd that it should
[10:15] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: then type update-grub
[10:15] <rhalff> hateball, thanks
[10:15] <Guest72078> I suspect a custom setting but have no idea where to start
[10:15] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ done
[10:16] <bekks> vlt: Thats something you wouldnt touch the global umask setting at all. Instead you would have to set ACL modes accordingly, which is not that trivial.
[10:16] <White_Cat_> so it will give me the option to select which kernel to use?
[10:16] <White_Cat_> will it have a default one it automatically selects?
[10:16] <White_Cat_> if I do a remote reboot it should still boot
[10:16] <noegry> I got error install wkhtmltopdf in docker with ubuntu 14.0.4 E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/elfutils/libelf1_0.158-0ubuntu5.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]
[10:16] <noegry>  
[10:16] <vlt> bekks: With setfacl?
[10:16] <bekks> vlt: Yeah.
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> noegry: i had ip fetching issue this morning, must be the servers
[10:17] <bekks> vlt: Untested example, like this: setfacl -dm u::rw,g::rw,o::r /shared/directory
[10:18] <antonio_> ciao
[10:18] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ should I reboot?
[10:18] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: you should select advanced and choose one
[10:18] <EriC^^> duno bt rmt boot
[10:18] <EriC^^> about remote boot
[10:19] <White_Cat_> as in "sudo reboot now"
[10:19] <White_Cat_> it should boot on its own unattended
[10:19] <bekks> White_Cat_: So try it now?
[10:19] <White_Cat_> not really trying a network boot
[10:19] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ rebooting now unless there is something else I need to change
[10:20] <EriC^^> it might boot the latest kernel
[10:20] <EriC^^> if the timeout is set
[10:20] <vlt> bekks: Thank you. Could you try to explain this? In short?
[10:20] <White_Cat_> I commeted out the timeout, no?
[10:21] <White_Cat_> oh hidden timeout
[10:21] <White_Cat_> grub default is 0
[10:21] <EriC^^> now it should show grub
[10:21] <White_Cat_> yeah
[10:21] <EriC^^> r u at the pc now?
[10:21] <White_Cat_> yeah
[10:21] <White_Cat_> but I wont always be
[10:21] <fritzroy15> hello, question: i would like to forward all requests to eth0 port 8080 to a docker container running inside the machine, basically from 100.78.112.49:8080 to 172.17.0.2:8080, is there any direct way of doing this in ubuntu?
[10:22] <EriC^^> try it now
[10:22] <bekks> vlt: you would have to mount your filesystem with ACL support, and then you would set the ACL permissions to RW (read write) for the user and group, and to R (read only) for all others.
[10:22] <White_Cat_> ok
[10:22] <EriC^^> if the
[10:22] <vlt> bekks: Thank you.
[10:23] <EriC^^> older kernel boots, purge the new one and uncomment and update-grub
[10:23] <fritzroy15> or do i need to install apache2 or something for this
[10:24] <bekks> fritzroy15: you need to create an iptables firewall rule.
[10:24] <White_Cat_> older kernel seems to be booting
[10:25] <White_Cat_> how can I purge the newer one? and wouldnt it come back with upgrade?
[10:25] <EriC^^> rhalff: /dev is created when you boot, it should reappear if you reboot
[10:26] <fritzroy15> bekks oh thanks, forgot about iptables :)
[10:26] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-46-generic
[10:28] <White_Cat_> it did quite a lot
[10:28] <White_Cat_> I want to attempt to reboot to see if I can, is that ok?
[10:28] <EriC^^> ok
[10:29] <EriC^^> uncomment if you want
[10:29] <isomorphismes> I can log in to Ubuntu with VT but can't get in as my main user to a GUI
[10:29] <EriC^^> isomorphismes: what happens?
[10:30] <k1l_> isomorphismes: wht happens when you login on loginscreen?
[10:30] <isomorphismes> it plays the Ubuntu sound and puts me back to the login manager
[10:30] <isomorphismes> a couple reboots ago I could get in with some window managers but not others
[10:30] <k1l_> isomorphismes: login on VT and see with "ls -al " what stuff is owned by root
[10:30] <isomorphismes> I can get in with *other* users to the GUI
[10:30] <k1l_> in that users home directory
[10:31] <isomorphismes> .Xauthority
[10:31] <isomorphismes> should be owned by me, yea?
[10:31] <k1l_> yes
[10:31] <isomorphismes> perfect
[10:31] <isomorphismes> thansk so much, I'll let you know how this goes
[10:32] <EriC^^> isomorphismes: sudo startx can do that jsyk
[10:32] <k1l_> *cause this
[10:32] <isomorphismes> should I chown me:me everything root owns in ~ ?
[10:32] <k1l_> or if one runs gui programs with sudo.
[10:32] <White_Cat_> error invalid boot environment is what I get EriC^^
[10:32] <k1l_> isomorphismes: well not everything. .gvfs is owned by root
[10:33] <isomorphismes> or perhaps chown me:root ~/* ?
[10:33] <White_Cat_> it then booted to ubuntu though
[10:33] <Sinitarra> IM GONNA HACK THIS SERVER AND YOU ARE GONNA TASTE MY SHIT
[10:33] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: i dont follow, did you uncomment?
[10:33] <k1l_> isomorphismes: other stuff needs to be looked at. but i think only .gvfs, the rest is fromstarting it with sudo
[10:33] <Sinitarra> hahahahahahahahahaha
[10:33] <Sinitarra> xD
[10:33] <White_Cat_> uncomment what?
[10:33] <isomorphismes> how do I get out of the gui from my other user back to the login screen?
[10:33] <White_Cat_> you mean slient boot?
[10:33] <White_Cat_> no
[10:33] <White_Cat_> it gave me the list of booting to ubuntu or advanced options with a 10s counter
[10:34] <White_Cat_> I didnt touch anything
[10:34] <k1l_> isomorphismes: user:user is the general setup in the users home
[10:34] <White_Cat_> it booted to an error which booted to ubuntu
[10:34] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: in etc...grub , did you choose the same kernel you booted earlier
[10:34] <White_Cat_> it works for now but I would prefer forgoing the error :)
[10:34] <White_Cat_> I didnt choose, it picked on its own
[10:34] <White_Cat_> I have access to my ubuntu server
[10:35] <isomorphismes> EriC^^: sudo startx does what?
[10:35] <White_Cat_> I can check grub if you wish
[10:35] <k1l_> isomorphismes: it causes issues with filepermissions like you got
[10:35] <k1l_> isomorphismes: you dont use startx on ubuntu.
[10:35] <Ben64> isomorphismes: you should not use startx ever, and you should not use sudo so cavalierly
[10:36] <isomorphismes> k1l_: so like if I ran sudo chromium-browser that could have caused it?
[10:36] <k1l_> yes
[10:36] <Ben64> yeah. stop using sudo for everything
[10:37] <White_Cat_> sudo make me coffee
[10:37] <EriC^^> use gksu if you have to isomorphismes
[10:37] <k1l_> running stuff with sudo is a bad idea. you really need to know why you need to run it with root permissions and not just "to test"
[10:37] <EriC^^> ^
[10:37] <isomorphismes> k1l_: oh ok. I found hat instruction looking up how to do things in awesome. This all started when I was editing /etc/xdg/awesome/rc.lua
[10:37] <efeu__> I have overclocked Haswell CPU with ubuntu 14.10x64, but the CPU frequency is not going down in idle, i have enabled speedstep/EIST etc. in efi. The strange thing is it is working fine in Windows. I have found a post where someone got hte same problem with ivy bridge cpu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1998061 . Does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:37] <Ben64> i can't really think of a reason you'd ever need to run chromium as root
[10:37] <k1l_> isomorphismes: you are backdooring your own systems prevention agains malicious stuff. like you make a welcome sign for all hackers
[10:38] <rhalff> EriC^^,  just found out I pressed ^C in time :) I meant the dir with all my development code not /dev
[10:38] <EriC^^> rhalff: oh ok :)
[10:38] <isomorphismes> Ben64: what should I use instead of startx? I got it from Arch documentation so makes sense it could be inappropriate in debian.
[10:38] <k1l_> isomorphismes: start the lighdm
[10:38] <Ben64> are you on debian?
[10:39] <umbra_purus> is the heartbleed issue fixed?
[10:39] <k1l_> that will handle the root stuff by itself
[10:39] <k1l_> umbra_purus: since ages, yes
[10:39] <umbra_purus> is the heartbleed issue fixed????
[10:39] <isomorphismes> EriC^^: What's the difference to gksu? I never use it unless the instructions I'm saying explicitly say to do so.
[10:39] <EriC^^> isomorphismes: sudo service lightdm start
[10:39] <isomorphismes> like gksudo gedit does the same as sudo gedit so I just started doing the latter.
[10:39] <Ben64> no it doesn't do the same
[10:39] <isomorphismes> I'm on ubuntu 12.04
[10:40] <umbra_purus> is the heartbleed issue fixed????
[10:40] <k1l_> isomorphismes: dont use sudo with GUI.
[10:40] <Ben64> and why would you need to run gedit as root???
[10:40] <isomorphismes> k1l_: how do I start lightdm? from VT?
[10:40] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ is there anything I need to do?
[10:40] <White_Cat_> the error will show up on each boot I imagine
[10:40] <isomorphismes> Ben64: eg sudo vi /etc/.../configfile
[10:40] <Ben64> vi is not gedit
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[10:41] <isomorphismes> k1l_: Is it really an issue on a laptop?
[10:41] <White_Cat_> update-grub ?
[10:41] <k1l_> isomorphismes: where does laptop has anything to do with this?
[10:41] <isomorphismes> Ben64: instruction manuals aimed at newbies will say gksudo gedit instead of sudo vi to edit config files.
[10:41] <isomorphismes> systemwide ones
[10:41] <freeroute> is apt-get's --install-suggests the same as --install-recommends?
[10:41] <EriC^^> isomorphismes: sudo service lightdm start , to start lightdm from a VT
[10:41] <isomorphismes> I'm sure it was sudo startx and not sudo chromium that was just an example
[10:42] <k1l_> isomorphismes: you are mixing a lot of things into topic you already dont know much.
[10:42] <k1l_> just stick with "i dont run sudo with gui programs". maybe you need to write that 100times to the blackboard :)
[10:42] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: did the error show up when you booted manually earlier?
[10:42] <isomorphismes> k1l_: security
[10:42] <EriC^^> from advanced
[10:43] <White_Cat_> EriC^^ all I did was sudo reboot now and it first shown grub menu
[10:43] <k1l_> isomorphismes: buzzword
[10:43] <White_Cat_> then booted to ubuntu (first item on the list) gave that error
[10:43] <White_Cat_> it had a "press to continue..." prompt where I did nothing
[10:43] <isomorphismes> k1l_: I only do things that it says in some instruction set, or interpolating from different instruction sets online.
[10:43] <k1l_> isomorphismes: sudo loads wrong enviroment variables. they dont work on GUI. so dont use sudo on gui, ok?
[10:43] <White_Cat_> which then booted to ubuntu
[10:43] <hackeron> hey there, is changelogs.ubuntu.com down at the moment? - I'm not able to do do-release-upgrade :(
[10:43] <isomorphismes> k1l_: I do sudo -E
[10:43] <White_Cat_> I can re-reboot if you like
[10:44] <k1l_> isomorphismes: yes, there are tons of wrong howtos. and you are even mixing stuff then to make it worse
[10:44] <EriC^^> White_Cat_: brb
[10:44] <White_Cat_> ok
[10:44] <isomorphismes> k1l_: "Don't follow how-to's if they're wrong" is not followable advice.
[10:44] <Ben64> isomorphismes: but you just said you stopped doing gksudo like the instructions say and started doing sudo. just listen.     **no sudo with gui**
[10:44] <White_Cat_> I'll go grab a bite as well
[10:44] <isomorphismes> Ben64: Right, what caused this is sudo startx. Exactly as instructions said.
[10:44] <k1l_> isomorphismes: what are we discussing here right now?
[10:44] <Ben64> instructions for ubuntu?
[10:44] <k1l_> isomorphismes: and that is wrong o ubuntu
[10:45] <isomorphismes> How do I log out of the secondary user and get back to Ubuntu's login screen?
[10:45] <k1l_> rule number 1: dont use sudo with gui. rule number 2: dont use startx on ubuntu
[10:45] <isomorphismes> Ben64: No, instructions for awesome wm. Doesn't specify an OS.
[10:45] <k1l_> use the logout from the desktop you use
[10:45] <isomorphismes> k1l_: cool. thanks.
[10:46] <k1l_> isomorphismes: *sigh*
[10:46] <isomorphismes> There is no logout in the unity-shell.
[10:46] <k1l_> there is
[10:46] <isomorphismes> if I type logout in the HUD it doesn't show anything.
[10:47] <k1l_> what is this? is this a joke?
[10:47] <isomorphismes> no
[10:47] <isomorphismes> click "Dash" on the left > type "logout" or "log out" > nothing appears
[10:47] <svetlana> k1l_, sorry, but I thought sudo and gksu were merged a release or two ago?
[10:47] <k1l_> svetlana: and he uses 12.04
[10:48] <isomorphismes> in the desktop help it says there should be a gear icon on the right, and there isn't one.
[10:48] <k1l_> isomorphismes: http://cdn5.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/06_selecting_log_out.png
[10:48] <eto> hello in my searches i ocasionally used to hit launchpad buglists and such
[10:49] <svetlana> when you click 'logout', the display manager should appear. if it doesn't, means it's not configured properly, or a package is missing.
[10:49] <eto> howevere i noticed recently isntead of page sohe shitty login dialog pops out - google style
[10:49] <svetlana> an error should be in logs somewhere I believe.
[10:49] <eto> is this intentional?
[10:49] <k1l_> isomorphismes: do it with "sudo service lightdm restart" then
[10:49] <eto> fixed: however i noticed recently instead of page some shitty ...
[10:49] <svetlana> eto, have you got an url or a screenshot of that dialog?
[10:49] <IdleOne> no need for bad language
[10:50] <eto> svetlana: https://login.launchpad.net/ <- this
[10:50] <eto> svetlana: every external link looks like that to me
[10:50] <eto> svetlana: eg i follow some blog or crosllink i see that
[10:50] <isomorphismes> k1l_: I don't have that button
[10:51] <eto> i don't care about ubuntu one, i would like to access information
[10:51] <svetlana> eto, that is not intentional. if you copy URL of the blog you're trying to open, and paste it in a new tab, does the same happen?
[10:51] <svetlana> isomorphismes: what k1l_ said is not a button, it is a terminal command.
[10:52] <eto> svetlana: so it means link expired and launchpad is redirecting me to default login page?
[10:52] <svetlana> eto, I do not understand what is going on. hence my last question.
[10:52] <isomorphismes> imgur.com/CHxxbXb
[10:52] <hackeron> anyone? - is changelogs.ubuntu.com down at the moment? - I'm not able to do do-release-upgrade :(
[10:53] <k1l_> isomorphismes: there is no logout program
[10:53] <k1l_> isomorphismes: so dont use dash
[10:53] <isomorphismes> ok thanks `sudo service lightdm restart` put me back to the login screen
[10:53] <k1l_> hackeron: can you pastebin the output?
[10:54] <svetlana> isomorphismes: how did you get in? lightdm (or any dm) should start on boot automatically.
[10:54] <isomorphismes> svetlana: Yes, but also some weren't believing that I don't have the button, so I wanted to shwo that I'm not making it up.
[10:54] <hackeron> k1l_: It just sits for a long time, then says "No new release found" -- even though I have Prompt=normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and have 14.04 installed
[10:54] <svetlana> eto, about opening the URL in a new tab and seeing whether launchpad opens there.
[10:55] <MickS> Hi all. Anyone can confirm that changelogs.ubuntu.com (91.189.95.36) is unresponsive currently (which results in do-release-upgrade not finding the new releases)?
[10:55] <svetlana> isomorphismes: I'm not sure. is this line directed at me? it answers none of my last 2 questions.
[10:55] <isomorphismes> ok great. Now I can boot into ubuntu 2D gui although not awesome gui.
[10:55] <MickS> ah, looking at hackeron's line there, I see I'm not the only one
[10:55] <k1l_> MickS: hackeron yes, its down for me now too
[10:55] <hackeron> MickS: k1l_: wget http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release -- just sits there too
[10:55] <isomorphismes> svetlana: 10:56 < svetlana> isomorphismes: what k1l_ said is not a button, it is a terminal command. <--- was directed to that
[10:56] <svetlana> isomorphismes: ah. okay. I sent some couple questions later on.
[10:56] <MickS> ok, almost noon here ... time for lunch then I guess. ;-)
[10:56] <hackeron> k1l_: is there a mirror?
[10:56] <isomorphismes> hackeron: I use http://isup.me to check if things are down for someone else.
[10:57] <isomorphismes> MickS: I had that problem with do-upgrade-release as well.
[10:57] <hackeron> isomorphismes: thanks :) - now just need to find a mirror
[10:59] <isomorphismes> It doesn't find my trackpad but does see my mouse.
[10:59] <isomorphismes> svetlana: I got in with lightdm I guess. I will look up what are other dm's.
[11:00] <Ben64> you don't need other dms
[11:00] <hackeron> any ideas why http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release will be back?
[11:01] <hackeron> when*
[11:02] <k1l_> hackeron: when its repaired :)
[11:02] <hackeron> k1l_: is it being repaired now? -
[11:02] <k1l_> hackeron: i am just asking the server guys what is going on. but either they are at lunch or they are busy repairung.
[11:03] <k1l_> hackeron: works for me now again
[11:03] <isomorphismes> Any ideas what might be keeping me still from booting into awesome wm?
[11:04] <hackeron> k1l_: ah, yes! - that was quick, heh
[11:04] <k1l_> isomorphismes: so what is owned by root in that users home?
[11:04] <k1l_> isomorphismes: details matter to get to know what is going on
[11:06] <isomorphismes> k1l_: .cpanm, .pip, .R, R-dev, .rnd, .root_hist, .rootrc, .rpmdb, npwebpg-v0.6.1-Linux_x86-gcc3.so, npwebpg-v0.6.1-Linux_x86-gcc3.so.1, ..
[11:07] <k1l_> holy moly. there was a lot of sudo action going on in that users homw
[11:07] <ikonia> rebuild
[11:07] <ikonia> who knows what else has been ruined
[11:07] <ikonia> get to a stable point
[11:07] <ikonia> and don't use sudo any more
[11:08] <k1l_> isomorphismes: so if awesome wants to use any of that it just cant. you could look into .xsesion-errors after a failed login to see if it names what he needs.
[11:08] <ikonia> this whole host looks a mess
[11:08] <ikonia> gcc 3 libraries ?
[11:08] <ikonia> I strongly advise a rebuild and move forward with people guiding
[11:10] <isomorphismes> ikonia: I don't know what "rebuild" means
[11:10] <ikonia> reinstall os
[11:11] <isomorphismes> the errors in .xsession refer to QDBusError, virtual void HotKey, and Wnck
[11:11] <k1l_> !paste | isomorphismes
[11:12] <Jeena> I wrote a upstart job and I can start and stop it with: initctl start pcloud; but I can not for the love of god find out what I have to do so this job will be run on startup
[11:12] <Jeena>  would appreciate a link or something
[11:12] <isomorphismes> https://dpaste.de/XjP0
[11:15] <Jeena> this is my conf: https://gist.github.com/jeena/010ae6d009edf2c1a82a
[11:16] <eto> hmm svetlana left
[11:16] <tos-1> isomorphismes: It says you messed up all the config files.
[11:16] <isomorphismes> Is it a problem that root:root owns the hard link ~/..  ?
[11:16] <tos-1> isomorphismes: use awesome -k to check for config file errors before you use a new config.
[11:17] <isomorphismes> tos-1: oh fantastic. thanks
[11:17] <Jeena> or is it that all scripts in /etc/init/ are always parsed and run during boottime?
[11:17] <gumble> which format should my home and which format should my root partition have_
[11:18] <Ben64> gumble: ext4 and ext4
[11:18] <ikonia> gumble: default ext4
[11:18] <gumble> Ben64: ikonia> thanks
[11:19] <nitin> hello
[11:19] <tos-1> isomorphismes: Did you hard link your config file to /etc/xdg/awesome/rc.lua? That's useless; it will fall back to it anyway. If you want to change the config, copy /etc/xdg/awesome/rc.lua and change your local copy (as said before without using sudo)
[11:19] <nitin> Hello i am nitin
[11:19] <freeroute> I don't want to install recommended packages, but I don't really know how to permanently set this in the system-wide configurations, I've searched and came up with this, but there appear a lot of contradicting/different solutions - http://askubuntu.com/questions/179060/how-not-to-install-recommended-and-suggested-packages
[11:20] <isomorphismes> hi nitin
[11:20] <nitin> hello !! i am working on ubuntu 14
[11:20] <isomorphismes> tos-1: no, I mean literally ~/..
[11:21] <nitin> i have one problem .can u help me with that
[11:21] <isomorphismes> nitin: shoot
[11:21] <nitin> i want to know how the serial port works
[11:22] <freeroute> nitin: is that your problem? Or are you trying to solve a different problem and require serial port knowledge?
[11:23] <Jeena> ok seems like all scripts in /etc/init/ are run on boot so you don't have to do any softlinking, etc. because this is the default behaviour
[11:23] <tos-1> isomorphismes: Oh, I see. That's okay, because root owns /home.
[11:23] <nitin> no actually i am unable to install the driver of PCI60806a   DUAL serial port
[11:23] <nitin> so please help me
[11:24] <isomorphismes> tos-1: cool, thanks. makes sense
[11:25] <nitin> i would like to know how can i install the driver?
[11:25] <nitin> one exe file came with the pci60806a driver CD
[11:26] <nitin> i want to know in /dev directory why it is not coming when i plug RS232 cable
[11:26] <nitin> please help me
[11:26] <isomorphismes> So why use sudo for service lightdm restart  ?
[11:27] <peter100> can windows virus affect ubuntu?
[11:27] <ikonia> peter100: no
[11:27] <peter100> ok
[11:27] <freeroute> nitin: you can't install .exe files under Linux usually.
[11:28] <peter100> i have few infected pendrves with auton.inf virus, can i nsert them in ubuntu safely and possibly clean them too?
[11:28] <peter100> autorun.inf virus i mean
[11:28] <yoritomo> Hello all
[11:28] <k1l_> isomorphismes: because a process needs root permissions to handle the xserver. but since you want the DisplayManager lightdm to sort that for you its ok to run that with sudo
[11:28] <freeroute> nitin: it seems to be a bug, I'm not sure it is fixed currently - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1244858
[11:28] <nitin> yes so please let me know how to get rid off this driver problem
[11:29] <isomorphismes> Back in awesomewm thanks very much to all of you tos-1 svetlana ikonia k1l_ EriC^^
[11:29] <yoritomo> what is going on about Ubuntu under mobile devices ? Meego is dead as well ? any alternatives for Xperia Sony smartphones ?
[11:29] <k1l_> isomorphismes: really make sure you dont follow howtos that are made for arch or other distros. that will mess up the ubuntu setup
[11:29] <peter100> ubuntu is on mobile?
[11:29] <peter100> like android?
[11:30] <isomorphismes> k1l_: Thanks. Arch does have much better documentation though.
[11:30] <k1l_> isomorphismes: well not generally.
[11:30] <isomorphismes> k1l_: In my opinion.
[11:30] <freeroute> nitin: you could try the steps there and see if that kernel listed there works.
[11:31] <isomorphismes> k1l_: Also the documentation for awesome says startx, agnostic of distro.
[11:31] <freeroute> nitin: and generally follow this post specifically - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1244858/comments/5
[11:31] <yoritomo> peter100 they have their own "BQ" device, but what if i want to install it on normal android devices ?
[11:31] <k1l_> isomorphismes: yes, because that is not aware of the ubuntu setup.
[11:31] <k1l_> !touch | yoritomo
[11:32] <isomorphismes> Since there's such a problem with sudo and root -- that makes me realise something else I've been doing may be causing problems as well.
[11:33] <isomorphismes> I read on thegeekstuff that /opt is the best folder for custom software, not ~/dev
[11:33] <isomorphismes> Trying to follow the multi-user scheme, whenever I'm downloading software from the web I put it in /opt
[11:33] <k1l_> isomorphismes: well, i think you are too happy to install stuff outside of the package system.
[11:33] <isomorphismes> What are the proper permissions/ownership for that setup?
[11:33] <peter100> yoritomo u can install apps which support linux install
[11:33] <peter100> on android
[11:33] <isomorphismes> k1l_: It's necessary for work.
[11:34] <peter100> why does banner command not working on ubuntu
[11:34] <yoritomo> peter100thank you k1l_ for the link
[11:34] <ikonia> peter100: define not working
[11:34] <yoritomo> peter100, android is very buggy and always hanging up even after fresh install :(
[11:35] <yoritomo> i want to get free from Android, and above all a property of google
[11:35] <k1l_> yoritomo: lets stick to ubuntu pc support in here
[11:35] <yoritomo> ok sorry, thanks anyway
[11:35] <peter100> ikonia i installed banner.deb file from a website, installed it, and now when i type banner keyword on terminal it displays nothing
[11:35] <ikonia> peter100: why did you do that
[11:35] <peter100> no errors , just nothing ikonia
[11:35] <peter100> ?
[11:35] <ikonia> banner is part of the distro
[11:36] <ikonia> why di dyou install banner.deb from a website ?
[11:36] <peter100> it never works
[11:36] <ikonia> it does work
[11:36] <k1l_> !info linuxlogo | peter100
[11:36] <nitin> I have tried all this .it is not working
[11:36] <peter100> because i did so on linux mint and it worked ikonia
[11:36] <nitin> please help me !!
[11:36] <peter100> ok
[11:36] <k1l_> or other packages like figlet etc
[11:37] <peter100> ikonia , u mean to say banner command works in ubuntu by default, not need to install it, it even works in live running too?
[11:37] <ikonia> peter100: correct
[11:38] <peter100> i am using ubuntu 12.04 and its surely doesn;t works
[11:38] <peter100> it*
[11:38] <ikonia> it works just fine
[11:38] <ikonia> why don't you tell us what you are doing exactly
[11:38] <peter100> on 12.04?
[11:39] <peter100> i typed banner myname and its shows nothing, that;s why i installed a different banner.deb file
[11:39] <Ben64> isomorphismes: awesomewm is necessary for work? and it needs to be manually installed? you know its in the repositories and will work perfectly when installed via that method
[11:39] <peter100> it said " command not found"
[11:40] <ikonia> peter100: is this an install or a live media
[11:40] <peter100> "command not found means ", its no there
[11:40] <peter100> install
[11:40] <ikonia> correct it does mean that
[11:40] <ikonia> it does not mean grab a random deb
[11:40] <peter100> ubuntu 12.04 LTS one
[11:40] <ikonia> peter100: is this an install or a live media
[11:40] <peter100> i see
[11:40] <peter100> install
[11:40] <peter100> i am running ubuntu 12.04 on my hdd
[11:40] <ikonia> ok - so the first thing is to verify if banner is on the system, you suggest it's not
[11:41] <ikonia> the second thing would be to get the package containing banner from the ubuntu package manager
[11:41] <peter100> when i typed banner it said " command not found"
[11:41] <isomorphismes> Ben64: No, the stuff in /opt is necessary for wokr.
[11:41] <isomorphismes> Ubuntu packages are famously late.
[11:41] <ikonia> peter100: you've said that
[11:41] <isomorphismes> So anything I actually work with, I need to grab up-to-date versions and install myself.
[11:41] <peter100> not after installng banner.deb, its does says "command not found", but also it does not displays anything
[11:41] <peter100> just blank
[11:41] <Ben64> isomorphismes: maybe ubuntu isn't for you then
[11:42] <ikonia> peter100: you've said that also
[11:42] <isomorphismes> Ben64: It's the norm for R users.
[11:42] <peter100> i am sorry
[11:42] <ikonia> peter100: remove the banner.deb package
[11:42] <ikonia> install it from the ubuntu repos
[11:42] <peter100> u mean to say i should download banner.deb from official repository?
[11:43] <ikonia> peter100: no
[11:43] <k1l_> isomorphismes: "R users"?
[11:43] <ikonia> peter100: read https://help.ubuntu.com and understand how to use the package manager
[11:43] <peter100> ok i remove it
[11:44] <isomorphismes> k1l_: Ben64 like the #R channel on freenode. Or [r] on stackexchange. Most are using Ubuntu and use sudo to install packages that are ahead of Ubuntu's r-cran-base.
[11:44] <Ben64> isomorphismes: makes no sense
[11:44] <isomorphismes> Anyway what is the proper permissions and ownership for installing software into /opt rather into ~/my-software ?
[11:44] <isomorphismes> Ben64: I'm not talking about awesome anymore. Thanks to everyone who helped me solve that problem.
[11:44] <bePolite> Is ext4 the latest file system?
[11:44] <peter100> will do , anyways thanks for the info ikonia, much appreciate
[11:45] <k1l_> bePolite: its the latest standard filesystem for ubuntu
[11:45] <isomorphismes> Ben64: While I was getting help with the problems I caused myself editing the config file and somehow chown-ing .Xauthority, people here gave me more general warnings about sudo.
[11:46] <isomorphismes> Ben64: And someone said not to install custom software; I'm explaining why that's not an option for the things I work with daily.
[11:46] <Ben64> isomorphismes: its not usually a good idea to be manually installing a bunch of stuff, and if you need the "newest" i'd really suggest using a distro designed for that
[11:46] <peter100> bePolite u can say that
[11:46] <peter100> bePolite also ext4 is a very robust filesystem, its uses journaling technique
[11:46] <freeroute> I don't want to install recommended packages, but I don't really know how to permanently set this in the system-wide configurations, I've searched and came up with this, but there appear a lot of contradicting/different solutions - http://askubuntu.com/questions/179060/how-not-to-install-recommended-and-suggested-packages
[11:47] <isomorphismes> Ben64: People build from source in ubuntu all the time.
[11:47] <freeroute> so what's the recommended method in 14.04?
[11:47] <bePolite> Do you ever wonder why there are no Drive letters like "C:", "D:" in linux?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> isomorphismes, some people.  I'd venture to guess that MOST users don't and don't want to compile anything
[11:48] <bePolite> Or rather, why are there are no Drive letters like "C:", "D:" in linux?
[11:48] <freeroute> bePolite: because of FHS?
[11:48] <peter100> anyone here uses pidgin instant messenger?
[11:48] <bePolite> what is FHS?
[11:48] <somsip> !fhs | bePolite
[11:48] <bazhang> try #pidgin peter100
[11:48] <froggyfrog> hello, I have Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and PHP 5.5, my problem is how can I enable TLS1.2 ?
[11:48] <freeroute> bePolite: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[11:48] <peter100> fhs means filesystem hierarchy bePolite
[11:49] <peter100> filesystem hierarchy standard filesystem hierarchy
[11:49] <peter100> filesystem hierarchy standard
[11:49] <freeroute> ^
[11:49] <k1l_> bePolite: they are called /dev/sdXY where X is a letter pointing at the disk and Y is a number pointing at the prtition on that disk
[11:50] <peter100> is it true that ubuntu never crashes or freezes? mine 12.04 is very reliable, i havent formatted my os from last 2 years,
[11:51] <peter100> also it works veryfast
[11:51] <k1l_> peter100: it could freeze or crash when somehting goes wrong. but in general its working
[11:51] <freeroute> peter100: that is largely dependent on a number of things, but generally 'never crashes' is an impossible word, especially in computing.
[11:52] <freeroute> *term
[11:52] <k1l_> peter100: and just a hint: you should not be using the desktop as root user. you should be logged in as a regular user
[11:52] <peter100> freeroute mine 12.04 had a very few crashes in last 2 years
[11:52] <peter100> almost nil
[11:52] <freeroute> that's good, but still not never
[11:52] <peter100>  k1l i am not root
[11:53] <k1l_> peter100: did you start pidgin with sudo?
[11:53] <gigio> ciao
[11:53] <peter100> may be because i update it regularly  freeroute?
[11:54] <peter100>  k1l no
[11:54] <ikonia> peter100: you seem to be root now
[11:54] <peter100> its my name "root"
[11:54] <freeroute> peter100: largely because of this: !lts
[11:54] <freeroute> !lts
[11:54] <ikonia> no it's not
[11:54] <ikonia> peter100: it's using your username as "root"
[11:54] <peter100> may be
[11:54] <peter100> LTS releases are best
[11:55] <peter100> yes
[11:55] <ikonia> peter100: maybe ??? you just said you did not launch it as root
[11:55] <ikonia> peter100: but your running it as root
[11:55] <peter100> ikonia that "may be" was answer to freeroutes questions
[11:55] <ikonia> I see
[11:56] <peter100> am i really running root  ikonia
[11:56] <ikonia> peter100: I know, I don't know why you lied
[11:57] <peter100> i didn;t
[11:57] <gumble> hey I installed ubuntu on my lenovo g505s, but grub fails as startup and displays the grub command line. only thing I can do is enter the boot menu from my laptop with the shortkey and select windows bootloader there
[11:57] <isomorphismes> cfhowlett: The answer is surely not "If you want to use anything from github, you need a different OS". Most linux advice online assumes ubuntu.
[11:57] <ikonia> peter100: you whre asked if you where running as root you said "no" - you where asked why your username was "root" you said it's not it's your name
[11:57] <ikonia> peter100: now you are saying "I am running as root"
[11:57] <ikonia> that = lies
[11:57] <peter100> gumble does ur laptops uses UEFI? OR simple BIOS?
[11:58] <peter100> ikonia root is my name
[11:58] <peter100> and may be its using my name
[11:58] <gumble> peter100: I have legacy support enabled. I think it tries uefi first, then legacy. I think I installed ubuntu in "bios mode", because in uefi I could not select to startup from usb somehow..
[11:58] <ikonia> peter100: yes, but you are also using the usrname "root"
[11:58] <peter100> and i asked if i am running as root, i din;t said i am running as root ikonia
[11:58] <ikonia> peter100: that is the root account
[11:59] <ikonia> peter100: 1:56 < peter100> am i really running root  ikonia
[11:59] <isomorphismes> Thanks for the time everyone ikonia k1l_ svetlana tos-1 EriC^^
[11:59] <peter100> ikonia and what if someone uses root23 name, is it  still a root account?
[11:59] <ikonia> peter100: no
[11:59] <ikonia> peter100: but then their username would be root23 - not root
[12:00] <ikonia> yours is root
[12:00] <peter100> ikonia that i asked ,
[12:00] <peter100> how can you say i am running as root, what makes you so sure about that? just asking
[12:01] <peter100> just because its showing the name "root" ?
[12:01] <peter100> nevermind
[12:01] <ikonia> peter100: because I can see your username
[12:01] <ikonia> not your "name"
[12:02] <ikonia> your username
[12:02] <peter100> nevermind buddy
[12:03] <peter100> anyways how can i install xbmc in ubuntu?
[12:03] <peter100> sudo apt-get install xbmc?
[12:04] <ikonia> search for the package
[12:04] <ikonia> then enable that repo
[12:04] <ikonia> then install the packag ename
[12:04] <peter100> i see ikonia
[12:05] <peter100> is there a way to permanently download the xbmc.deb files for future use
[12:05] <peter100> not just install, download them permanently
[12:05] <k1l_> peter100: do you know about the ubuntu package system at all?
[12:06] <k1l_> !info xbmc | peter100
[12:06] <peter100> not much, i only know one command "sudo apt-get install appname"
[12:06] <peter100> thanks ubottu
[12:06] <ikonia> peter100: I suggest you read the link I gave you earlier before moving forward
[12:07] <JethroTux> exit
[12:07] <peter100> will do ikonia
[12:10] <isomorphismes> I found some advice on ubuntuforums that says to add a line to .xsession for gnome-keyring-daemon (relating to pkcs-11). Should I do it?
[12:10] <ikonia> up to you
[12:10] <isomorphismes> I don't have a ~/.xsession file
[12:10] <ikonia> then create one
[12:10] <isomorphismes> ok thanks ikonia
[12:11] <isomorphismes> Does .xsession get destroyed and recreated at startup? I.e. should I write somewhere to always write this line to ~/.xsession at startup?
[12:12] <ikonia> no
[12:13] <isomorphismes> thanks ikonia
[12:14] <peter100> catch you all later, bye ikonia nice talking to you buddy
[12:15] <White_Cat> sigh
[12:18] <bePolite> which file contains information about all the last reboots
[12:19] <ikonia> what sort of infomation ?
[12:19] <raub> bePolite: what kind of info?
[12:19] <bePolite> the time
[12:19] <raub> AFAIK dmesg info is in, well, the dmesg logs
[12:19] <ikonia> it's in wtmp - but thats not readable, so type "last"
[12:20] <bePolite> raub: the type of info you get by typing " last reboot"
[12:20] <bePolite> I want to read that file manually
[12:20] <ikonia> you cant
[12:20] <bePolite> hmm
[12:20] <bePolite> how does the "last" command get the data the
[12:20] <bePolite> ?
[12:21] <ikonia> it can read the file format
[12:21] <bePolite> ahh
[12:22] <no_gravity> Hello! When I mount my other computer via "sshfs -o allow_other 1.2.3.4:/ /mnt/other/" and browse to that folder with nautilus and double click an image, the mous pointer just keeps spinning forever. any idea why? When I drag and drop it to my local machine, it opens just fine.
[12:22] <raub> ikonia: on a side note, you can see the dmesg stuff with the timestamps converted to something sane. Can't remember how to do it right now though
[12:22] <ikonia> raub: I'm not asking how to do it - I'm quite happy with managing my system
[12:23] <bePolite> ikonia: how is the file system called
[12:23] <ikonia> bePolite: how is the file system called ? what
[12:23] <raub> ikonia: I did not imply that
[12:23] <bePolite> Or which type of files store this dtata
[12:23] <ikonia> bePolite: it's a text file
[12:23] <bePolite> Then I can read all text files?
[12:23] <bePolite> Ahh sorry the file format
[12:23] <ikonia> the data is not a human readable format
[12:25] <bePolite> ikonia: Do you know the path to this file?
[12:26] <bePolite> Is it binary? cuz if its a text file, I would like to take a look
[12:26] <ikonia> it's in /var/log
[12:26] <ikonia> and it's not human readable
[12:26] <w0jtas1> hello, my ubuntu has been hacked and i needed to remove "ps" app, how can i restore it? where should i take it from ?
[12:26] <ikonia> bePolite: I have no idea why you are trying to do this as it only displays an obsfucated version of the last command data
[12:27] <ikonia> w0jtas1: re-install whole OS
[12:27] <cfhowlett> w0jtas1, ps?  photoshop?
[12:27] <w0jtas1> ps as a list processes
[12:27] <ikonia> w0jtas1: re-install the whole OS
[12:28] <w0jtas1> ikonia: i can't afford it as it's live server
[12:28] <w0jtas1> i can do over weekend but need stable system now
[12:28] <ikonia> w0jtas1: you can afford to then
[12:28] <ikonia> as it is live and comrpomised
[12:28] <raub> w0jtas1: ikonia's point is that if one file is compromised more are
[12:28] <ikonia> shut it down straight away
[12:28] <cfhowlett> w0jtas1, so you say you can afford to run a HACKED system???
[12:28] <raub> and spreading and attacking other crap
[12:28] <w0jtas1> i cut everything that was infected
[12:28] <ikonia> shut it down straight away
[12:28] <raub> w0jtas1: you sure?
[12:28] <w0jtas1> no more infected apps / network traffic
[12:29] <ikonia> he can't be sure
[12:29] <ikonia> his binaries are compromised
[12:29] <ikonia> so testing for failure with compromised binaries = no idea
[12:29] <w0jtas1> i don't have more compromised binaries
[12:29] <ikonia> you don't know that
[12:29] <w0jtas1> compared them to state before infection
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:29] <ikonia> w0jtas1: unacceptable
[12:29] <w0jtas1> i have original md5
[12:30] <w0jtas1> i know what caused infection
[12:30] <w0jtas1> and how
[12:30] <ikonia> w0jtas1: if you are strong enough to be %100 certin your machine is not compromised - you should be able to install a single package
[12:30] <raub> w0jtas1: if that is the case, reinstall the ps package
[12:30] <w0jtas1> only i don't know is where to get original ps/netstat/lsof
[12:30] <ikonia> w0jtas1: the package manifest are totally available
[12:30] <ikonia> and the apt/dpkg syntax is too
[12:31] <ikonia> if you are good enough to be %100 sure you are no longer compromised (which I don't think you are) you should be able to get a package and install it
[12:31] <bePolite> ikonia: I found the file here /var/log/wtmp
[12:31] <bePolite> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utmp#utmp.2C_wtmp_and_btmp
[12:32] <ikonia> bePolite: I told you thats where it is
[12:32] <ikonia> not sure why you "found" it when I told you where it was
[12:33] <bePolite> ahh I didn't see that message :D
[12:33] <bePolite> lol
[12:33] <ikonia> no problem
[12:34] <raub> w0jtas1: once you find which pacakge(s) you need, just tell apt-get to force reinstall
[12:35] <bePolite> whch application are used to create log files
[12:35] <bePolite> like the file /var/log/debug
[12:35] <ikonia> depends, it can be things like the syslog or the kernel logger it'self
[12:36] <raub> bePolite: depends on program. Some do it on their own. Others use syslog
[12:36] <ikonia> o the process it's self
[12:36] <raub> and ikonia types way faster than me
[12:37] <bePolite> Hahahha
[12:38] <bePolite> Thanks for the answers
[12:40] <bePolite> How does linux ensure that the log files dont' get too larage anyways
[12:40] <bePolite> Does syslog use logrotate
[12:42] <bekks> bePolite: Yes.
[12:43] <bekks> bePolite: using logrotate, you can rotate all the logs you want.
[12:44] <isomorphismes> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/startx.1.html  <-- Someone told me here there is no startx in ubuntu. But it looks like there is.
[12:45] <ikonia> isomorphismes: they didn't tell you that
[12:45] <ikonia> isomorphismes: they told you not ot use it
[12:45] <ikonia> not that it didn't exist
[12:45] <ikonia> why are you STILL looking at startx
[12:45] <ikonia> rather than just using the ubuntu desktop system properly as advised earlier
[12:48] <isomorphismes> ikonia: I'm looking up the various things I learned here today. Like FHS, gksudo vs sudo, lightdm
[12:48] <freeroute> ikonia: interesting, I'm about to install i3wm and no login manager. I wanted to login at boot on a VT and then do startx (which would then launch i3 because it's specified in ~/.xinitrc). If this is not the recommended method, then what is?
[12:48] <ikonia> freeroute: that is a different situation
[12:49] <freeroute> ah ok, even for a DE like LXDE?
[12:49] <isomorphismes> ikonia: Right. My bad memory.
[12:49] <ikonia> freeroute: what does the DE have to do with anything ?
[12:50] <isomorphismes> ikonia: I want to understand how .Xauthority got chown-ed.
[12:50] <freeroute> ikonia: can I start the DE with startx as well?
[12:50] <ikonia> isomorphismes: because you launched things as root earlier
[12:50] <ikonia> isomorphismes: this was explained
[12:50] <ikonia> freeroute: the DE is not started with startx - X11 is
[12:51] <k1l_> isomorphismes: there is startx, but ubuntu is not setup to be used with startx. its due to the way its uses sudo. the root account is disabled with no password given to that account.
[12:51] <k1l_> isomorphismes: that is different from nearly all other distros and its due to beeing a mainstream distro.
[12:52] <bePolite> Can I tell systlog to write the logs of the different users in my system in different files?
[12:52] <k1l_> freeroute: isomorphismes you need "root-permissions" to start the xserver. but on ubuntu you just start lightdm with root permissions (using sudo) so it handles all for you. on other distros you use starx with sudo but not on ubuntu.
[12:53]  * k1l_ cant count how often he explained that already today
[12:53] <ikonia> bePolite: different users ?
[12:53] <ikonia> bePolite: syslog logs system logs
[12:53] <ikonia> not user logs
[12:53] <freeroute> sorry if I missed that k1l_
[12:53] <bePolite> ikonia: Wow thanks So what is responsible for  userlogs?
[12:54] <isomorphismes> thanks for that explanation k1l_
[12:54] <ikonia> bePolite: the users applications
[12:54] <k1l_> everytime starty is mentioned in this channel and its told not to use that on ubuntu, nearly all "linux experts" jump in and tell that on other distros or bad howtos its adviced to use startx. but not for ubuntu, we have a clever lightdm
[12:55] <k1l_> and since we are in #ubuntu other distros doesnt care really. the ubuntu way does in here :)
[12:57] <isomorphismes> do I have this right?: kernel < ... grub < ... < dm < X < de < wm
[12:59] <bePolite> Wow linux is complicated
[13:02] <isomorphismes> bePolite: Windows and Mac are as well, you just don't see it.
[13:02] <geek> hello
[13:02] <k1l_> isomorphismes: yes, but grub is not a layer inbetween but more of a layer started before
[13:02] <Guest73626> 有人吗
[13:03] <k1l_> !cn | Guest73626
[13:03] <k1l_> bePolite: linux is not more complicated. it just offers you more options. if you just want to run it and dont change any setting like on windows you can do that too.
[13:04] <hadifarnoud> where can I find openvpn utw profile? nothing in /etc/ufw/applications.d/
[13:04] <isomorphismes> k1l_:k1	ok right. yeah that didn't make sense conceptually
[13:07]  * Rust3dCor3 is away: brb
[13:07] <pflanze> Hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my buddy's laptop and am stuck.
[13:08] <k1l_> !away > Rust3dCor3
[13:08] <pflanze> Chose the live system (no immediate installer); now when calling the "Install Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS" app from the menu,
[13:08] <pflanze> it complains with errors. So I guessed, I should may be run it as root? Stopped it, but,
[13:08] <pflanze> now what's the name of that app from the command line?
[13:08] <ikonia> you don't run it from the command line
[13:08] <ikonia> you click on the desktop button
[13:08] <pflanze> "apropos install" doesn't show it. How hard can it be?
[13:09] <pflanze> There's no desktop button
[13:09] <ikonia> its not hard
[13:09] <ikonia> pflanze: how did you launch it then ?
[13:09] <k1l_> pflanze: what ubuntu system did you boot there exactly?
[13:09] <ikonia> !install | pflanze
[13:09] <pflanze> ikonia, from the search in the start app
[13:10] <pflanze> This is the installer that is currently served when visiting ubuntu.com.
[13:10] <pflanze> ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[13:11] <ikonia> pflanze: when you boot it what do you see ?
[13:11] <pflanze> A menu with "Default" and other entries.
[13:11] <k1l_> there should be an icon on the desktop labeled "install ubuntu" or similar. that should work with clicking on it.
[13:11] <ikonia> what are the other entries
[13:11] <pflanze> Then when choosing "Default" it complains about "invalid kernel"
[13:11] <TheNumb> pflanze: don't use unetbootin.
[13:11] <TheNumb> just don't
[13:12] <ikonia> who said he's using unetbootin ?
[13:12] <pflanze> Huh, what else then from Debian?
[13:12] <TheNumb> It breaks the syslinux menu.
[13:12] <k1l_> pflanze: "dd"
[13:12] <TheNumb> ikonia: I know those symptoms ;-)
[13:12] <pflanze> So I chose the entry "Ubuntu live system" or something
[13:12] <ikonia> pflanze: are you actually booting the CD ?
[13:12] <k1l_> pflanze: dd the ubuntu iso plain on the /dev/sdb drive
[13:12] <pflanze> ikonia, flash drive
[13:12] <ikonia> pflanze: or are you using a USB stick
[13:12] <ikonia> ok, there we go
[13:12] <TheNumb> pflanze: just dd the image and you're golden.
[13:13] <TheNumb> or even cp ubuntu.iso /dev/sdX and then sync
[13:13] <TheNumb> Should also work.
[13:13] <pflanze> Hum, ok next time, but how does this matter now that it managed to boot?
[13:13] <TheNumb> pflanze: probably not.
[13:13] <ikonia> pflanze: it can't boot if it's an invalid kernel
[13:13] <pflanze> It did boot when I selected thagt "Ubuntu live sys" entry
[13:13] <isomorphismes> k1l_: I'll make you a ! if there are instructions somewhere. Appreciate it.
[13:13] <bePolite> Is there a command on how to obtain online help for a specific linux command like "cp"
[13:13] <pflanze> that's where I am at
[13:13] <bePolite> Or the only route is google?
[13:14] <pflanze> now all I need is to actually get the darn installer application running
[13:14] <freeroute> bePolite: you can do "man cp"
[13:14] <k1l_> bePolite: "man cp"
[13:14] <isomorphismes> bePolite: I run man cp. Do you mean it has to be on the internet?
[13:14] <ikonia>  bePolite man $command
[13:14] <ikonia> bePolite: eg: man cp
[13:14] <TheNumb> apropos cp
[13:14] <pflanze> What's its name on the command line?
[13:14] <ikonia> pflanze: there should be an icon on the desktop
[13:14] <TheNumb> pflanze: ubiquity
[13:14] <freeroute> I don't want to install recommended packages, but I don't really know how to permanently set this in the system-wide configurations, I've searched and came up with this, but there appear a lot of contradicting/different solutions - http://askubuntu.com/questions/179060/how-not-to-install-recommended-and-suggested-packages
[13:14] <ikonia> pflanze: if there is not an icon on the desktop there is a problem
[13:14] <bePolite> yes isomorphismes
[13:14] <bePolite> I want something online
[13:14] <ikonia> pflanze: do not try to "beat" that problem
[13:14] <bePolite> I don't like the man pages
[13:14] <ikonia> fix it
[13:14] <bePolite> the display is poor to me
[13:15] <isomorphismes> bePolite: related good commands to know are apropos copy and apt-cache search copying
[13:15] <TheNumb> bePolite: http://linux.die.net/man/1/cp
[13:16] <bePolite> Nice TheNumb
[13:16] <pflanze> Ok let me try cp (hu).
[13:16] <TheNumb> pflanze: remember to run sync afterwards
[13:17] <pflanze> TheNumb, thanks for the heads-up
[13:18] <pippo_sandri> ciao
[13:20] <deitarion> Does anyone know if xboxdrv's --evdev mode produces a virtual /dev/input/eventX device? I've got a game (Strike Suit Zero) which ignores /dev/input/jsX and a joystick (Saitek Cyborg 3D USB Gold) and I really don't feel like writing a uinput proxy from scratch just because idiot kernel purists think there should be one API *and* calibration is unnecessary.
[13:21] <deitarion> I'd just try it, but I'm not well-rested (and, thus, not well motivated) and having trouble finding clear, simple instructions for getting --evdev set up in a "sorta works" way so I can `ls -l /dev/input/` to check.
[13:24] <KlausedSource> I don't get vpnc to work in gnome-shell. I have vpnc and the networkmanager plugin for vpnc installed. Everytime I try to connect it immediatly shuts the connection down (I'll get a Message "Connection failed. Activation of network connection failed"). My Ubuntu notebook with the exactly same configuration can establish the connection without a problem from the same network
[13:24] <KlausedSource> https://bpaste.net/show/a3e260e95e16
[13:28] <rpp601> KlausedSource: do you have the same version of ubuntu on both machines?
[13:29] <bePolite> Please how can I activate automatic screenlock from the terminal
[13:30] <rpp601> bePolite: what window manager are you using?
[13:30] <bePolite> gnome
[13:30] <bePolite> is that what you were asking for?
[13:31] <rayd> Hi. I've got a quick question about my Linux Mint17, gnome desktop. Is this an appropriate place for it?
[13:31] <rpp601> bePolite: read this, it might contain the settings you're looking for. you can edit this through command line.
[13:31] <rpp601> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17157/how-do-i-stop-the-screen-from-being-locked-on-suspend
[13:31] <KlausedSource> rpp601, this workstation is 14.10 the laptop is 14.04 lts
[13:31] <bePolite> NO
[13:31] <bePolite> I want to actualy set the suspension time
[13:31] <bePolite> So that after 2 minutes, my screen should get locked if I am idle
[13:32] <rpp601> KlausedSource: have you compared the conf files?
[13:32] <rpp601> bePolite: sorry :-/ you'll have to wait till some experts are awake, ask your question again sometime soon.
[13:32] <KlausedSource> rayd, nope you should visit #linuxmint
[13:32] <bePolite> oaky
[13:32] <w0rp> Hello. A friend of mine seems to have broken his gnome-keyring ssh-agent thing.
[13:33] <KlausedSource> rayd, also mint doesn't support gnome afaik
[13:33] <rayd> Thanks KlausedSource.
[13:33] <w0rp> Does anyone have a set of troubleshooting steps for getting the standard keyring prompt for ssh to show again?
[13:33] <rpp601> w0rp: i believe you just delete the stored keyrings... not positive
[13:34] <KlausedSource> rayd, on the irc server GIMPNet is also official Gnome channel #gnome (gnome general) and #gnome-shell (gnome 3.x)
[13:34] <w0rp> It's asking for the ssh passphrase each time, so I think it's jut not using gnome-keyring as the SSH agent. (I'm assuming it's gnome-keyring with Unity uses by default.)
[13:34] <KlausedSource> rpp601, i honestly don't know where to look. It always just worked.
[13:34] <KlausedSource> except this new install
[13:34] <rpp601> does anyone know how to get my system to alert me in *any* way when a process stops running?
[13:35] <rpp601> KlausedSource: yeah, there should be a conf file somewhere for it. i'd compare it, or make .bak's of it and copy it over from the working one assuming it won't break anything else.
[13:35] <rpp601> KlausedSource: all my advice comes with a disclaimer lol, i have a vague idea of what i'm doing... sometimes.
[13:43] <KlausedSource> rpp601, i will crawl through a lot of documentation first i guess :)
[13:43] <rpp601> KlausedSource: trust me, i hate that part too
[13:44] <pflanze> TheNumb, ikonia, amazingly cp'ing the image instead of netbootin made it work. Thanks!
[13:44] <TheNumb> yw
[13:44] <TheNumb> have fun :)
[13:44] <TheNumb> pflanze: you can also use dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX
[13:45] <pflanze> Still, feels so fragile. But oh well, what software isn't nowadays.
[13:45] <pflanze> I know. I actually used cat
[13:45] <pflanze> And no, you don't need to sync afterwards btw, nowadays, afaik, since when the last filehandle to a device is closed, the kernel calls sync automatically, so cat blocks until everything is written.
[13:46] <artisanIndia> ever since I installed sendmail on my ubuntu server I am getting email with subject /usr/local/vesta/bin/v-update-sys-rrd
[13:46] <pflanze> (I did run sync afterwards but it returned immediately. And I remember the change was made I think for Kernel 2.4.)
[13:47] <imbezol> just run eject /dev/sdX
[13:47] <artisanIndia> I dont have any folder /etc/local/vesta
[13:48] <XenophonF> hey all - any ubuntu/mac users?
[13:48] <XenophonF> i'm trying to get 14.10 installed on my macbookpro5,1
[13:49] <XenophonF> the installer boots just fine, does its thing, no problems
[13:49] <pflanze> TheNumb, in case you didn't see, ^ cp cat dd, all amounts to the same.
[13:49] <TheNumb> pflanze: well, I have to use sync when copying images to my sdcards ;-)
[13:49] <daftykins> in EFI or legacy, XenophonF ? please write your message on one line
[13:49] <TheNumb> pflanze: I know.
[13:49] <TheNumb> :P
[13:49] <XenophonF> daftykins: i've been booting the CD using the EFI option
[13:50] <pflanze> You shouldn't need to, if it's the last filehandle (nothing else has it open). Are you sure you need to?
[13:50] <daftykins> XenophonF: you've seen the community mac pages, i take it?
[13:50] <daftykins> !mac
[13:50] <XenophonF> yeah sure have
[13:51] <XenophonF> anyway, when Ubuntu boots post-install, the computer freezes (e.g., caps lock led doesn't toggle), and all i see are two small blue-ish bars in the upper right quadrant of the screen
[13:51] <pflanze> TheNumb, if it requires an explicit sync, perhaps it's a bug to be fixed.
[13:51] <TheNumb> it may be
[13:51] <TheNumb> I don't care tbh.
[13:51] <XenophonF> i've tried both 14.10 and 12.04.5 - same result
[13:51] <pflanze> (Again, assuming you're running something newer than kernel 2.2.x)
[13:51] <daftykins> !nomodeset | XenophonF try this
[13:52] <XenophonF> thanks daftykins, let me give that a whirl
[13:53] <pflanze> TheNumb, well I'm saying this because things are already way too complicated, and then if people believe that missing the sync is reason for failure, they might be led to retry with sync and spend more time for nothing.
[13:55] <TheNumb> pflanze: true
[13:55] <XenophonF> daftykins: all i see is "Booting a command list" - i'm going to remove "quiet" from the kernel command line, too
[13:55] <daftykins> XenophonF: yep quiet splash can come off
[13:58] <XenophonF> nothing - blank screen
[13:58] <XenophonF> this is 12.04.5 - let me re-install 14.10
[13:59] <ioria> XenophonF, ... but have you set nomodest ? it'not enough remove  splash
[14:00] <XenophonF> yeah, i removed "quiet splash" and added "nomodeset"
[14:00] <XenophonF> i'm just getting "Booting a command list" now, the two blue bars aren't appearing
[14:01] <daftykins> blue bars? not sure what you mean by that. why not 14.04.2? :) LTS releases are nice
[14:01] <XenophonF> sure i'll try 14.04.2
[14:01] <XenophonF> give me a sec to download it
[14:02] <ioria> XenophonF, ... put nomodeset between quiet  and splash
[14:02] <rsmarshall> hey all
[14:02] <XenophonF> ioria: ok
[14:02] <rsmarshall> i have a user that for some reason i can't ftp in as even when the password is reset, other users work fine
[14:03] <imbezol> XenophonF: what's the process you're using to change your flags?
[14:03] <imbezol> are you sure they're getting put in properly?
[14:04] <XenophonF> imbezol: i'm editing them using grub, then pressing f10 to boot
[14:04] <XenophonF> the control keys don't work
[14:04] <ioria> XenophonF,  should be  "shift"  ...
[14:04] <daftykins> ioria: that's pointless when you remove both.
[14:05] <daftykins> ctrl is command on macs though o0
[14:05] <daftykins> not sure if that works at GRUB
[14:05] <rsmarshall> how do i remove a mounted folder?
[14:05] <rsmarshall> i mounted a folder in another place, now need to remove it
[14:05] <XenophonF> daftykins: none of the keyboard modifiers work, it's very strange
[14:06] <XenophonF> i need to scrounge up a usb keyboard, see if that works
[14:06] <Jesper--> rsmarshall, umount
[14:06] <rsmarshall> thanks jesper
[14:07] <XenophonF> i'm torrenting the  14.04.2 server iso now
[14:08] <XenophonF> be back once it's done/burned/installed
[14:08] <Naveeeeee> Hello guys!
[14:08] <ubuntu604> hi
[14:08] <daftykins> XenophonF: are you not able to use flash drives?
[14:09] <daftykins> XenophonF: why server? that's a bit of a recipe for surprises ;)
[14:09] <XenophonF> daftykins: i don't need the gui, just want a barebones linux server
[14:10] <Naveeeeee> Hello FEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
[14:10] <XenophonF> ultimately i want to play around with openstack
[14:10] <TopGear> Hi folks. Am I right in thinking there are no Lubuntu/Xubuntu 12.04.5 torrent files? I can only find 12.04 from Lubuntu and 12.04.4 from Xubuntu...
[14:10] <imbezol> XenophonF: do you have more than one video output port?
[14:10] <fedo> hey...
[14:10] <XenophonF> imbezol: no
[14:10] <XenophonF> if i'm better off with desktop, i'll download that
[14:12] <XenophonF> i have a displayport adapter for this mac around here somewhere...
[14:13] <XenophonF> i figured a text-mode only install should be a piece of cake :(
[14:13] <ikonia> it is a doddle
[14:13] <ikonia> what is the problem ?
[14:13] <XenophonF> i tried centos 7 and ran into the same problem, where it would boot but show these two small blue bars in the upper right of the screen
[14:14] <ikonia> what is hte problem you are facing with ubuntu
[14:14] <daftykins> i didn't look up your model mac to see what hardware it is, for what potential issues there could be
[14:14] <ikonia> not really interested in the centos problem
[14:15] <XenophonF> ikonia: when i boot ubuntu post-install, it shows two small blue bars in the upper right quadrant of the screen
[14:15] <XenophonF> hold on, i'll take a picture
[14:16] <muad_> anyone knows if there is a way too install kodibuntu from terminal
[14:16] <imbezol> XenophonF: what are you using for a monitor?
[14:16] <ikonia> muad_: thats not ubuntu, so it's not supported here
[14:16] <XenophonF> imbezol: the laptop's built-in screen
[14:17] <XenophonF> let me find the displayport adapter and a monitor
[14:17] <XenophonF> i'll plug those in, see if it makes any difference
[14:18] <chulis> can anybody run virtualbox on ubuntu 14.1?
[14:18] <k1l_> chulis: yes you can
[14:18] <daftykins> *14.10 - of course they can.
[14:18] <chulis> my always fall down
[14:19] <k1l_> chulis: fall down?
[14:19] <daftykins> what a fine description
[14:19] <chulis> it stars ok but some seconds after crahs
[14:19] <ikonia> what crashes
[14:19] <ikonia> the guest ? the host ? the virtual box app ?
[14:19] <ikonia> how does it crash ?
[14:20] <chulis> when i start to run win7 on vitualbox it aborts
[14:20] <ikonia> what does ?
[14:20] <ikonia> please answer the questions clearly
[14:20] <chulis> canot install win7
[14:20] <ikonia> what aborts
[14:20] <ikonia> the guest, the host, the app ?
[14:21] <ikonia> how does it abort, what does it error ?
[14:21] <XenophonF> so when i install ubuntu on a mac, should i boot the cd via EFI?
[14:21] <chulis> when i try to intall windows7 few seconds after abort
[14:21] <XenophonF> all the mac wiki pages seem to indicate that EFI boot is preferred
[14:21] <ikonia> XenophonF: the boot shouldn't matter if it boots
[14:22] <XenophonF> ikonia: that's what i figured
[14:22] <chulis> virtualbox continues ok but canot instal any os
[14:22] <daftykins> it actually does make a big deal on macs, so i disagree
[14:22] <ikonia> chulis: can't help you - you seem unable/unwilling to describe the problem clearly
[14:22] <k1l_> chulis: give it more ram and cpu in the settings. you maybe want to ask in #vbox for some settings on windows7 guests
[14:22] <daftykins> sometimes only legacy works properly.
[14:22] <ikonia> daftykins: not for the CD - the actual post install boot does matter
[14:22] <subvhome> I just installed a minimal cd of ubuntu. When I log in I get: failed to start unit user@1000.service: unknown unit:
[14:22] <ikonia> not sure how it would impact if it was a boot USB
[14:22] <chulis> on ubuntu 14.4 was all right
[14:22] <ikonia> never used that
[14:22] <ikonia> or rarely
[14:22] <daftykins> no i'm talking about post install too
[14:22] <ikonia> daftykins: full agreement
[14:22] <chulis> 14.04 sorry
[14:23] <ikonia> he seemed to be talking about the install media (CD)
[14:23] <daftykins> well you have to boot legacy and install legacy with some models, as far as i understand it
[14:23] <k1l_> subvhome: some systemd issue, should not be a problem
[14:24] <subvhome> k1l_: ok thank.
[14:24] <ikonia> subvhome: you're missing packages (and therefore users) it expects
[14:24] <ikonia> subvhome: if you're doing a "minimal" install you need to understand it
[14:24] <XenophonF> let me wipe and reload everything on this mac
[14:25] <XenophonF> start totally from scratch - fresh Mac OS X install, fresh rEFIt install, fresh Ubuntu Desktop 14.10 install
[14:25] <XenophonF> i'll do legacy boots this time around
[14:25] <subvhome> ikonia: thanks. Yes I just need to be able to get a console and run 1 program.
[14:25] <ikonia> isn't rEFIt dead now ?
[14:25] <ikonia> replaced with something else
[14:25] <cfhowlett> reFIND
[14:26] <ikonia> thank you
[14:26] <chulis> i put lot of cpu ram hd etc but canno install any so virtualbox
[14:26] <XenophonF> yeah, that one, rEFInd
[14:26] <chulis> i have ubuntu 14.1
[14:27] <k1l_> please ask in #vbox
[14:27] <daftykins> you shouldn't need any of that rEFIt junk these days
[14:27] <chulis> nobody in vbox
[14:28] <ikonia> pretty sure the mac EFI implementation won't allow you to boot it directly withou tit
[14:28] <ikonia> chulis: loads in #vbox
[14:28] <chulis> sorry
[14:28] <chulis> ok
[14:29] <XenophonF> ikonia: i can boot ubuntu without refind, like if i wipe the disk entirely and just install ubuntu, but it's super ugly - like, the boot selection screen (hold Alt while powering on) doesn't show the ubuntu install
[14:29] <daftykins> i think it depends on the model, i wrote the wiki guide for an old one that installed just fine the other day
[14:29] <ikonia> daftykins: ah, so the older efi implmentation may work
[14:30] <daftykins> XenophonF: what happens if you wipe the disk, clean install OS X, resize the volume to give more space at the end for Ubuntu... then boot the Ubuntu media and install into the empty space? holding alt at boot for me listed the other OS fine
[14:30] <daftykins> but this could be the vast difference in model age
[14:30] <XenophonF> daftykins: i don't remember if that works
[14:31] <XenophonF> this is a mid-2008 mbp
[14:32] <daftykins> one i did is the only up to date early model macbook with a 'trusty' guide, 3,1 i think
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !mac | XenophonF reading the literature when messing with a Mac is HIGHLY recommended.
[14:33] <XenophonF> cfhowlett: i know i'm some random on irc, but i rtfmed and google searched and the rest before i came here
[14:34] <cfhowlett> XenophonF, fair enough.
[14:36] <artisanIndia> I am getting emails from my server for incorrect login attempts I want to disable but dont know where the script is
[14:36] <camoes> hello
[14:36] <camoes> im a nowie  trying this shit for the first time
[14:36] <camoes> what is this chat about?
[14:36] <artisanIndia> what camoes ?
[14:36] <cfhowlett> camoes, stop the profanity now
[14:36] <daftykins> camoes: support here only, do not use rude language.
[14:36] <nbusrone> hi anyone know how Do I sharpen the fonts on ubuntu 14.04 ? I install ubuntu tweak but there's no setting like before ? like best sharpen ? http://i.stack.imgur.com/x6GXN.png
[14:37] <camoes> i'm deeply sry i thought this was more a casual conversation
[14:37] <cfhowlett> nbusrone, I suspect you are using a non-native screen resolution.
[14:37] <daftykins> no, you can find general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:37] <camoes> could you please explain to me  more about this chat please?
[14:37] <XenophonF> cfhowlett: i'm almost at the point where i'm rtfs, which is how i fixed similar graphical boot weirdness under hyper-v
[14:37] <cfhowlett> camoes, technical support for Ubuntu linux
[14:37] <daftykins> camoes: there's not much to say, this channel is for Ubuntu support questions. simple as that.
[14:37] <k1l_> !guidelines | camoes
[14:38] <nbusrone> cfhowlett : I mean there's no option for sharpening .Using default 1920x1080
[14:38] <cfhowlett> XenophonF, I'm on a DELL and have only ever done a hackintosh.  Can't really help you much
[14:38] <cfhowlett> nbusrone, try some different resolutions.
[14:39] <LMNOP_> cfhowlett, plz no talking about ´´hackintosh´´
[14:39] <ikonia> he's not
[14:40] <ikonia> he mentioned that he'd done it and thats why he CAN'T help
[14:40] <LMNOP_> i know just warning
[14:40] <ikonia> there is no need for a warning
[14:40] <LMNOP_> well i did
[14:40] <PCWorker> Hello everyone....
[14:41] <LMNOP_> PCWorker, hi
[14:43] <flughafen> i'm installing ubuntu server now in kvm, but it only see's the qcow2 file as a 196kb drive?
[14:43] <PCWorker> I have a Compaq Desktop with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on it. I want to know if I can pull the hard drive out and put it into another Desktop and it will boot right up or will I have to re-install the OS???
[14:43] <ikonia> flughafen: sounds like you've defined the file wrong then
[14:44] <ikonia> flughafen: of you've set it to dynamic, rather than allocate in full
[14:44] <OpenTokix> flughafen: its because the qcow2-file is a sparseimage - Is the install done, or did you just start?
[14:44] <flughafen> qemu-img create -f qcow2 ubuntu.qcow2 50G
[14:44] <flughafen> this works with other operating systems, it's pretty standard
[14:45] <cfhowlett> PCWorker, if the two systems are IDENTICAL, you should be able to drag and drop.  Otherwise, plan to reinstall.
[14:45] <flughafen> ah, nevermind, i'm stupid.  the virt-installer picked raw format by default.
[14:45] <flughafen> sorry guys
[14:46] <imbezol> cfhowlett: that's not even close to true
[14:46] <cfhowlett> imbezol, please inform PCWorker
[14:46] <imbezol> if they both use the same boot method it'll probably just work
[14:46] <EriC^^> PCWorker: if it doesnt boot you might need to rebuild the initrd from chroot
[14:47] <k1l_> PCWorker: could work.
[14:47] <PCWorker> I was hoping that I could just update the drivers.
[14:47] <EriC^^> using a live usb
[14:47] <k1l_> PCWorker: go and try that.
[14:47] <imbezol> PCWorker: you may need to update graphics drivers if you have one that's ati and one that's nvidia or something
[14:47] <imbezol> even then it'll probably work, just not with 3d support etc
[14:47] <nbusrone> cfhowlett : guess I didn't install ubuntu tweak , installed now working but still the fonts isn't sharp .Will try other setting thanks :)
[14:52] <valerioack> ciao
[14:53] <PCWorker> The other desktop is an HP/Compaq too, but the graphics card is 512mg ATI. So will have to update those first. What I'm most worried about is, If it does boot up "stable", then will it still say it is a compaq presario OR will it configure the new motherboard automatically?
[14:53] <daftykins> PCWorker: just try it.
[14:53] <daftykins> it won't hurt!
[14:56] <PCWorker> daftykins: If it don't work, I will let yall know what happened. If it does work, I will let yall know how much faster and better a computing experience I am having. Oh, and I also started reading and practicing making my own Linux Box.
[14:57] <daftykins> err, ok?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> PCWorker, looking forward to it.  Y'all come on now, y'hear?
[14:58] <PCWorker> cfhowlett: are you texan?
[14:58] <cfhowlett> PCWorker, no, I just enjoy the beer and bbq.
[14:59] <PCWorker> cfhowlett: LOL
[15:00] <PCWorker> See yall afterwhile. And thanks for the info.
[15:10] <aryklein> I am deploying an openstack cloud (one controller/network node with 4 compute nodes) in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. It's a critical/production environment and I am not an Openstack guru. Rather I'm very new in Openstack. So I need a long term support Openstack version. According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive and my needs, is it correct to choose Icehouse instead of Juno?
[15:17] <Walex2> aryklein: #Ubuntu-server perhaps
[15:18] <aryklein> Walex2: thanks
[15:19] <daftykins> i bet there's an openstack channel.
[15:20] <ikonia> there is and it's excellent
[15:23] <aryklein> daftykins: yeap I've asked there... but I'm concerned in the Ubuntu support
[15:23] <daftykins> k
[15:23] <ikonia> what way concerned with ubuntu support ?
[15:24] <aryklein> I understand they keep support only for the last two Openstack release. And according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive, ubuntu support Icehouse for 5yrs
[15:25] <ikonia> it is supported for the duration of the LTS release as that diagram shows
[15:25] <aryklein> I need to know what kind of support Ubuntu gives to Openstack
[15:25] <ikonia> what do you mean, "what kind of support"
[15:25] <ikonia> they maintain the packages
[15:26] <aryklein> ikonia: the compatibility with new libraries?
[15:26] <ikonia> new libraries ?
[15:26] <ikonia> what new libraries
[15:26] <ikonia> the LTS platform does not change for the duration of the cycle
[15:27] <ikonia> the openstack software is maintained against that plaform for the duration of the LTS release.
[15:27] <aryklein> ikonia: yeap I meant that
[15:28] <phre4k> anyone with samba 4 experience?
[15:31] <aryklein> ikonia: So... If I decided to use Juno and Ubuntu finishes the Juno support, maybe with the next Ubuntu 14.04 upgrades my system could collapse?
[15:36] <aryklein> ikonia: I mean... If decided to use Juno in a 14.04LTS what happen when Ubuntu stop maintaining Juno and I keep upgrading my 14.04? new updates could broke my openstack?
[15:40] <anuro> Hello, how can I get GParted to format exfat?
[15:47] <O_OniGiri> Hi there, I'm having an issue. My Firefox launches much faster than Chrome. Chrome takes like 10 seconds to launch. However I really would like to use Chrome instead of Firefox. Please help me out.
[15:50] <Whitor> Hi All. It doesn't seem like I can create multiple network profiles for my Wireless adapter like I can for my wired adapter. Is there a way around this?   I'd like to have a DHCP profile and a couple static ip profiles for testing... Any ideas?
[15:50] <Whitor> 14.04lts btw
[15:50] <phre4k> O_OniGiri: firefox is the better browser, however you could try moving your chrome profile and starting "fresh". If that's faster, your profile is the culprit
[15:51] <k1l_> O_OniGiri: maybe your plugins are slowing down
[15:51] <O_OniGiri> phre4k: haha ok. I will try to switch to firefox I guess. I just liked it that Chrome syncs well with my Android phone...
[15:51] <phre4k> O_OniGiri: use Firefox Sync
[15:51] <k1l_> O_OniGiri: see if a new profile starts faster
[15:51] <BluesKaj> O_OniGiri, do you have a gmail account , if so that could explain the loading of various google "stuff" with the browser therby slowing down the launch
[15:52] <ikonia> aryklein: if you use packages from the ubuntu LTS repo - they will be maintained for the duration of the LTS release
[15:52] <ikonia> aryklein: if you use packaages outside the LTS release, that is not ubuntu's issue to maintain compatibility
[15:52] <O_OniGiri> phre4k: yeah, I will have a look at Firefox sync
[15:53] <Whitor> Only the WiFi SSID's appear in the network dropdown list.  Not the connections as created in Network Connection (edit connections at bottom)
[15:53] <daftykins> well you can't make your own wireless networks without using ad-hoc wifi, probably?
[16:10] <guest1435623> hi guys, libreoffice doesn't use the system-wide font, which is terminus. any idea how to fix this?
[16:10] <Notwang> hi
[16:10] <Notwang> I keep hiting this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifenslave/+bug/1269921
[16:11] <Notwang> is there a sensible workaround for that?
[16:11] <Notwang> I don't believe that people don't use lacp on ubuntu server
[16:12] <daftykins> you can't restart networking services reliability, i doubt it has to do with a single file
[16:12] <daftykins> only a proper reboot or ifup + down does it, if you're editing the interfaces file
[16:14] <Notwang> so if I reboot lacp is going to work properly?
[16:15] <daftykins> dunno
[16:15] <Notwang> -__-
[16:24] <Open_Source_newb> Dear All
[16:24] <Open_Source_newb> i have quick question
[16:24] <Open_Source_newb> i installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 server version
[16:24] <Open_Source_newb> and trying to install Cloudera hafoop
[16:24] <Open_Source_newb> *hadoop
[16:25] <Open_Source_newb> while installation i created a useraccount for logging om
[16:25] <Open_Source_newb> but now i am unable to login with root and password
[16:25] <Open_Source_newb> but with the useraccount i created
[16:25] <Open_Source_newb> requesting assistance on the same
[16:28] <Open_Source_newb> any help would be greatly appreacited
[16:28] <Open_Source_newb> *appreciated
[16:28] <daftykins> yes because root is not an account you have a password for, on ubuntu
[16:28] <daftykins> also please type in one message in future
[16:29] <Open_Source_newb> sure
[16:29] <Open_Source_newb> so creating a root password should fix it
[16:30] <daftykins> you shouldn't do that
[16:30] <daftykins> that's going against how ubuntu is meant to be used :)
[16:30] <Open_Source_newb> oh okie
[16:31] <Open_Source_newb> because i am trying to install a software and it requires root credentials to authenticate and install
[16:31] <Open_Source_newb> not sure how to proceed
[16:31] <themizzi> sudo apt-get install <package>
[16:32] <themizzi> sudo gives you root access for a single command
[16:32] <daftykins> i would think it's already installed if you got that far
[16:32] <Open_Source_newb> 3rd party application
[16:32] <themizzi> the password it asks for is your user account password
[16:32] <daftykins> i'm not familiar with that though.
[16:32] <daftykins> themizzi: not quite right i'm afraid.
[16:32] <Open_Source_newb> cloudera hadoop
[16:32] <Open_Source_newb> is what i am trying to install
[16:33] <ubuthetechguru> i'm allowing someone else ssh access into my server for various reasons, is there some increased logging level so that I can see everytime he uses sudo OR is that the default?
[16:33] <kominato> hi
[16:34] <ubuthetechguru> herro
[16:34] <daftykins> they would not be allowed to use sudo unless you added them to the admin group
[16:34] <mablae> Hey,
[16:35] <mablae> On fresh Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS installation how to get wlan connection and store credentials?
[16:35] <SchrodingersScat> ubuthetechguru: /var/log/auth.log seems to log?
[16:35] <daftykins> server and wifi? ugh
[16:36] <summer_> How to reset all network settings?
[16:37] <kominato> Bought a new generation intel nuc NUC5i5ryk and can't install 14.04 or 14.10 on it. installation menu has only windows bars no text etc ... has anyone faced this problem ?
[16:39] <themizzi> daftykins: which part of that isn't right under the assumption the packages are available via apt?
[16:39] <daftykins> themizzi: the part where it's a service installed already and the word 'install' was being used erroneously
[16:40] <daftykins> you came in late so i don't blame you.
[16:40] <daftykins> kominato: install the latest EFI update, helps loads.
[16:40] <themizzi> ah
[16:40] <pokemonmaster> !help
[16:41] <pokemonmaster> !patience
[16:42] <daftykins> !pm | kominato
[16:43] <Budd> My Acer Aspire One fails to restore my X screen on resume; text consoles are fine (but have a non moving mouse pointer on them). Killing my XFCE session from the command line gets me a working login window.
[16:44] <Budd> Is this likely an ACPI issue? What should I try?
[16:44] <kominato> its the latest EFI because its a new product. it boots the installer but the graphics have problems as I described. Empty windows etc
[16:53] <v0lksman> I have a 2T external drive I'm trying to run fsck on.  Is it normal that even with -v that nothing appears on screen for pass 1?
[16:57] <v0lksman> verbose doesn't seem very verbose
[16:57] <subvhome> im trying to install partclone 0.2.70 and it gives me this error "partclone depends on libreiserfs0.3-0 Package libreiserfs0.3-o is not installed" However, I can't find this package and it can be newer then 0.3.
[16:57] <subvhome> I did a minimal install of ubuntu.
[16:59] <mablae> daftykins, It is for a kiosk mode setop
[16:59] <mablae> not server
[16:59] <mablae> I used server to avoid whole unity install cause I am using openbox
[17:03] <subvhome> nevermind.. i compiled it
[17:04] <ioria> subvhome, there is a libreiser4-dev in synaptic
[17:10] <UnHacK> all q
[17:10] <UnHacK> how are you?)
[17:13] <crimson83> Morning all, I just turned my pc on and connected pianobar and for some reason I', getting conenction refused now?
[17:13] <daftykins> UnHacK: this isn't a chat channel, support only
[17:14] <UnHacK> only support?
[17:14] <UnHacK> what?
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[17:17] <daftykins> UnHacK: you can go chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:18] <UnHacK> sps
[17:19] <wldcordeiro_> Is there a ppa aside from deadsnakes that provides python versions?
[17:19] <wldcordeiro_> I was trying to get 3.4.3 on 14.04
[17:20] <Vespero> Ugh, anyone know how to get the xChat Indicator to show up in 14.10? I had it working but I'm on a new install and can't remember how I did it
[17:20] <UnHacK> but ubuntu not kali)
[17:21] <daftykins> UnHacK: yes, if you are using kali you have to go to their channel
[17:22] <UnHacK> but i`m using kali or not ubuntu)
[17:23] <UnHacK> ex es, my eng
[17:24] <anuvrat> how do I select the fastest ubuntu mirror using the command line? Is there a command line equivalent of software center's "select best server" tool?
[17:25] <daftykins> UnHacK: might be best you find a channelf or your language, you make zero sense to me :)
[17:27] <UnHacK> dont zero, be happy))
[17:27] <UnHacK> sorr)
[17:27] <imbezol> !ru
[17:29] <UnHacK> ooops. error channel
[17:29] <UnHacK> byby
[17:46] <unirevolucion> tengo un problema para instalar ubuntu, en el instalador no me aparece el HD y si está montado
[17:46] <unirevolucion> cómo hago para instalar ubuntu?
[17:48] <XenophonF> hey all, i got mac os x and refind re-installed, per the general mac install instructions, and when i try to boot ubuntu desktop 14.10, this is what happens - https://imgur.com/a/4NDSy
[17:48] <Jynx_> I have a question, though not while pertainable directly to ubuntu would be great if I could get answer.
[17:49] <XenophonF> sorry for the potato quality of the pictures
[17:49] <Jynx_> I can't read the text on the last screen where the error is listed
[17:49] <XenophonF> it says "no controller found"
[17:50] <blumenkranz> Hello there. Does somebody know about changes to zsh config files performed through apt? I recently got an option in my .zshrc that I didn't put there.
[17:51] <Jynx_> that error is generally persuant to it not detecting your keyboard/mouse
[17:51] <Jynx_> XenophonF, .. but that's obviously not the case as I can SEE Your keyboard
[17:51] <Jynx_> Oh nice
[17:51] <Jynx_> My problem is solved
[17:51] <Jynx_> :)
[17:52] <Jynx_> XenophonF, I'm reading on a forum that that warning is flashed because of the USB Connection as uuppose to the older ps/2 you should be able to just hit enter past it normally
[17:53] <XenophonF> Jynx_: let me give that a shot
[17:54] <XenophonF> Jynx_: thanks for the link
[17:54] <Jynx_> that's for arch sorry :/ wrong linnk
[17:54] <Vespero> Anyone have a functioning Systray Indicator for xChat?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> blumenkranz: usually the changes are done outside of $HOME. I've not known any rc files in $HOME be changed by updates
[17:56] <Jynx_> I'll be right back
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Vespero: xchat hasnt been developed for 4 years now, its dead
[17:57] <blumenkranz> ActionParsnip: that's weird. My zsh has recently started logging with share_history but I haven't touched the zshrc in ages.
[17:57] <blumenkranz> And I think it started to happen after an update.
[17:57] <Vespero> ActionPasnip: Well, it still works. And I did have an indicator working for it on my last install. I just can't figure out how now
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> Vespero: i suggest you use a different client. Xchat is dead and gone
[17:58] <XenophonF> Jynx_: I looked at that second link, thanks. This has a fresh install of Mac OS X 9.1 on it, and disk encryption isn't enabled.
[17:58] <Vespero> ActionPasnip: What do you use?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Vespero: the web ui, or andchat
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Vespero: sometimes pidgin
[17:59] <m387457834> Hi, my DVDRW drive won't work in 14.04 but works in 12.04, what can I do?
[18:00] <XenophonF> I'll try booting again with a USB keyboard/mouse attached.
[18:00] <htqp> Vespero: ActionParsnip HexChat is fork of Xchat
[18:00] <Vespero> htqp: Is it still being supported?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> !info hexchat
[18:01] <Vespero> I want something that's just IRC and which is usable on a desktop
[18:01] <XenophonF> didn't help :( still get the same error
[18:01] <XenophonF> so here's another question - on ubuntu what switches from text mode into what i presume is some kind of graphics mode?
[18:01] <XenophonF> and how do i disable it?
[18:01] <htqp> Vespero: sure
[18:01] <XenophonF> because i can boot the ubuntu server 14.10 installer just fine
[18:01] <Vespero> Well, I'll go try it out.
[18:01] <XenophonF> it never switches out of text mode
[18:01] <ioria> ActionParsnip: ifit's not being supported anymore, whyispreinstalled by default  :-ç
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> ioria: not seen it preinstalled on any official ubuntu release
[18:02] <ioria> ActionParsnip: ohhh
[18:02] <XenophonF> something must be enabling some kind of framebuffer mode for the console though, because ubuntu server crashes the exact same way the first time it boots post-install
[18:03] <Open_Source_newb> Dear All
[18:03] <Open_Source_newb> require help in configuring - another user with password-less sudo/pbrun privileges to become root.
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Open_Source_newb: not wise, at all
[18:04] <Open_Source_newb> ActionParsnip : oh okie
[18:04] <Open_Source_newb> but i need to install a software and root autnteication is not working , this is the only option i have
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Open_Source_newb: why not just use sudo like the OS is intended to be used and you'll be fine
[18:04] <m387457834> Hi, my DVDRW drive won't work in 14.04 but works in 12.04, what can I do?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Open_Source_newb: your first user by default can use sudo
[18:05] <k1l_> Open_Source_newb: what setup is that?
[18:05] <Vespero> Does Hexchat have a systray indicator?
[18:05] <Open_Source_newb> cloudera hadoop
[18:05] <k1l_> Vespero: no
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Open_Source_newb: there is no "root authentication" as the account is disabled. There is no password
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Vespero: pidgin does
[18:05] <k1l_> Vespero: maybe you can whitelist that
[18:05] <Open_Source_newb> i added the root account and password
[18:05] <htqp> Vespero: yes
[18:06] <Open_Source_newb> still unable to <ActionParsnip>
[18:06] <k1l_> Open_Source_newb: that is not the ubuntu way
[18:06] <Vespero> htqp: Do you know where to install it from?
[18:06] <k1l_> Open_Source_newb: please explain the whole setup and issue.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Open_Source_newb: you cant add the root account. That's like saying you "added the administrator account" to a windows system
[18:06] <Open_Source_newb> Root access to your hosts is required to install the Cloudera packages. This installer will connect to your hosts via SSH and log in either directly as root or as another user with password-less sudo/pbrun privileges to become root.
[18:06] <Sailoreal> Hey
[18:07] <htqp> Vespero: assuming >= 14.04 Trusty: software center, as usual.
[18:07] <XenophonF> brb
[18:07] <k1l_> oh well, broken software again
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest7931
[18:07] <Open_Source_newb> so what happens is when i try to install ... it gives an error
[18:07] <Vespero> htqp: I mean, I installed Hexchat, but there's no systray indicator
[18:07] <k1l_> htqp: are you sure about the systray indicator?
[18:07] <m387457834> Hi, my DVDRW drive won't work in 14.04 but works in 12.04, what can I do?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Vespero: why did you set the root password when you are clearly VERY new to Linux
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> m387457834: what do you mean "doesn't work"?
[18:08] <m387457834> ActionParsnip: it's not even listed in lshw
[18:08] <Vespero> ActionParsnip: I think you meant to mention someone else
[18:08] <Open_Source_newb> this is the error message : Cloudera Manager Failed to authenticate : Exhausted available authentication methods
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> m387457834: if you put a CD in it, does the drive spin up?
[18:08] <k1l_> htqp: Vespero on unity there is not tray icon for hexchat. maybe you can whitelist it.
[18:08] <m387457834> ActionParsnip: of course
[18:08] <htqp> Vespero: I have it here, give me a second to check
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Vespero: indeed, apologies
[18:08] <Sailoreal> I wonder how to install Xubuntu with Dual boot alongside Windows 7
[18:08] <Sailoreal>  Can someone provide me with a video or instruction?
[18:08] <leptone> is it advisable to for me to install 14.04 LTS 64 bit on an old emachines 350?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Open_Source_newb: why did you set the password wen you are clearly very new to Linux
[18:08] <k1l_> !dualboot | Sailoreal
[18:09] <htqp> oh k1l_ Vespero I have XFCE here, not unity
[18:09] <k1l_> !rootirc | root____1
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> m387457834: not of course at all. The issue could be lack of power, which would explain why its not detecting
[18:09] <Vespero> htqp: oh
[18:09] <Sailoreal> k1l_, is this Xubuntu?
[18:09] <derrzzaa> Hey guys, I've just bought a new monitor for my currently headless Ubuntu machine, with a nvidia card in it. Currently it's set to a res / Hz setting unsupported by the monitor.
[18:09] <m387457834> ActionParsnip: I said it works in 12.04 already
[18:09] <Open_Source_newb> oh , i was following a video
[18:09] <derrzzaa> How can I troubleshoot this?
[18:09] <k1l_> Sailoreal: that doesnt change if its xubuntu or ubuntu or..or....or...
[18:10] <Open_Source_newb> and stuck in this step
[18:10] <Sailoreal> k1l_, I have a Windows machine with x64, and 4GB RAM (200 GB HDD). Would you recommend Xubuntu if I lile fast and modern?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> leptone: I'd go for Xubuntu 14.04. eMachines have done their usual stunt and cheaped out on the RAM
[18:10] <Open_Source_newb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0l87tArUDk
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> m387457834: is it shown in dmesg ?
[18:10] <Sailoreal> Or which would you recommend?
[18:10] <Open_Source_newb> 5:18
[18:10] <m387457834> ActionParsnip: nope
[18:10] <k1l_> Sailoreal: anything you like. ubuntu should run there too
[18:10] <john_doe_jr> I need to tar up some files in a specific directory and I am having problems: " tar -C /path/to/directory/ -cvpzf backupname.tar.gz " is not working…any ideas?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> m387457834: so you ran:   dmesg | egrep -i 'dvd|cd'
[18:11] <m387457834> ActionParsnip: yes :)
[18:11] <k1l_> Sailoreal: its your choice. if you like xfce more go with xubuntu. its just about the different desktop
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: http://mylinuxnotebook.blogspot.com/2008/11/create-extract-targz-files.html
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> m387457834: can you pastebin the output (if any)
[18:12] <Sailoreal> I can't really choose ...
[18:12] <Sailoreal> Which is the most popular and recommended?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: if its 4Gb RAM then Ubuntu, if you like Unity.
[18:12] <k1l_> Sailoreal: then go with your first idea and if you like it, stay there
[18:12] <m387457834> ActionParsnip: there is no cd or dvd in the output it's just 10 lines about usb
[18:12] <k1l_> Sailoreal: make own experience
[18:12] <Sailoreal> k1l_,  a friend said Xubuntu was good, Idk
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: Ubuntu as lots of things are still quite meshed with Unity shell
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: why not try both?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: they cost the same (free!)
[18:13] <Sailoreal> ActionParsnip, I can't ...
[18:13] <john_doe_jr> ActionParsnip: I appreciate the help but that link did not use the -C option
[18:13] <k1l_> Open_Source_newb: that video is just plain wrong. he is using a lot of wrong commands
[18:13] <Sailoreal> ActionParsnip, I don't have the time ...
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: sure you can, try them in live CD / USB then make a call from there
[18:13] <Open_Source_newb> K1l , oh is it
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: then read reviews / watch videos on yourube
[18:13] <k1l_> Sailoreal: so when you dont got time, why are we still talking and you not intsalling xubuntu? :)
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> m387457834: have you tried resetting your BIOS to defaults the resetting it up?
[18:14] <Sailoreal> k1l_, coz I don't know if I wanna use Ubuntu or Xubuntu etc. :) Or LTS or regular ...
[18:14] <Open_Source_newb> K1l: how to proceed please
[18:14] <Sailoreal> I'm a beginner
[18:14] <Sailoreal> of linux
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: i suggest LTS for new users
[18:14] <Open_Source_newb> this is the only source i had
[18:14] <Sailoreal> (And it's a laptop)
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: doesnt matter
[18:14] <k1l_> Sailoreal: again: we cant make the choice for you.
[18:15] <Sailoreal> Which would you recommend/suggest? No, I know, I just want your opinions :)
[18:15] <k1l_> Sailoreal: if you want/can update every 6 months then n14.10 is ok, but for beginners better go LTS
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: I prefer to install Ubuntu minimal then add slim and openbox, works really well for me
[18:15] <Sailoreal> Yes, but I mean Xubuntu or Ubuntu?
[18:15] <Sailoreal> ActionParsnip, ok
[18:15] <Sailoreal> Minimal?
[18:16] <k1l_> !poll | Sailoreal
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: just stick to the main Ubuntu, you'll be fine
[18:16] <k1l_> Sailoreal: if you ask 20 times more its not helping. go and install xubuntu.
[18:16] <Sailoreal> Why Xubuntu?
[18:16] <k1l_> becaus.
[18:16] <k1l_> *e
[18:16] <Sailoreal> ...
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: go do some research and make a choice
[18:17] <Sailoreal> Ok
[18:17] <k1l_> Open_Source_newb: i bet they have a documentation, and support. dont rely on videos some bloke with not more knowledge then you made
[18:17] <Sailoreal> Is Ubuntu better than Mint?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Open_Source_newb: the first user you made at install time can use suo, use that and stay off root. The OS is designed to NOT use root accounts but to use sudo
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: some say yes, some say no
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: is coke better than pepsi?
[18:18] <Sailoreal> Yep xD
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: your question is as intelligent as that
[18:18] <Sailoreal> Ok ...
[18:18] <realBigfoot> ActionParsnip, what doest contain on an ubuntu minimal ?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: or is red better than blue
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> realBigfoot: minimal is package management, kernel, bootloader and some basic tools like vi / nano etc
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> realBigfoot: so you can build up. Much like Arch, because Arch is sooo hard to install
[18:19] <realBigfoot> ActionParsnip, does it have any graphical shell ?
[18:19] <k1l_> Sailoreal: since you ask in a ubuntu channel: use ubuntu and not mint.
[18:19] <Sailoreal> Ok
[18:20] <realBigfoot> ActionParsnip, oh I see...
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> realBigfoot: not by default, but you can install one if you need to. You will also be offered to install the desktop metapackages from the web, saves having to install the OSthen upgrade the packages from the web
[18:20] <realBigfoot> ActionParsnip, nice :)
[18:20] <realBigfoot> ActionParsnip, we build it as we like it to be
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> realBigfoot: yeah its pretty cool. I dont like all this wasted resource with a DE so I just use openbox WM
[18:21] <realBigfoot> ActionParsnip, indeed.. there is a lot of things I would get rid of from the system build
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> realBigfoot: exactly, build up rather than remove what is aded by default
[18:22] <realBigfoot> ActionParsnip, nice to know! I will totally give a shot on this one... next time I format my computer... i have customized a bunch of things... now i am lazy
[18:24] <Sailoreal> !dualboot | Sailoreal
[18:28] <Sailoreal> So LTS rather than the latest?
[18:29] <ioria> Sailoreal, : Long Time Supported
[18:30] <ioria> Sailoreal, : .10 development
[18:30] <nigga_> is Ubuntu Studio still actively developed ?
[18:30] <Sailoreal> Which is best? Recommended?
[18:30] <Sailoreal> lTS
[18:30] <Sailoreal> I think I will choose Lts ...
[18:30] <SchrodingersScat> freedom of choice means you get to decide
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: yes, 14.04 LTS is supported til April 2019
[18:30] <Sailoreal> ok
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: none are best
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: if one ws best, nobody would use the others at all
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: think about it
[18:31] <k1l_> Sailoreal: still chating? why not installing already? :)
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> k1l_: doesnt have time apparently
[18:31] <Sailoreal> I'm searching for a video how to do it with dual boot :)
[18:32] <k1l_> Sailoreal: we gave you documentation for that. no need for video
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: you have been 18 minutes asking the same question over and over, yet you don't have time to try researching online?
[18:32] <Sailoreal> Ok ...
[18:32] <tokam> If I press ctrl+l in nautilus I can not edit my current path
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: so why doi you not have time to research but have the same time to ask in here?
[18:33] <tokam> has anything changed with an update?
[18:33] <Sailoreal> I have researched
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> tokam: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[18:33] <Sailoreal> But I can't use a CD
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: then make a choice based on your research
[18:33] <Sailoreal> I have to use a USB
[18:33] <tokam> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Sailoreal: you can transfer the ISO to USB using unetbootin
[18:33] <Sailoreal> Okay
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> tokam: can you not click in the top bar and type the path you desire?
[18:34] <tokam> It seems to be an issue of my current window instance
[18:34] <tokam> if I press ctrl+n and then ctrl+L in the new window nautilus works as expected.
[18:34] <tokam> no I can not
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> tokam: press ALT + F2 and run:   nautilus -q
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> tokam: wait for nautilus to restart then retry
[18:35] <tokam> I did not know what it does but now I know :D
[18:35] <Pici> /70/70
[18:35] <tokam> works all pretty well ;)
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> tokam: sweet
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> tokam: you restarted nautilus ::)   (man pages)
[18:38] <Sailoreal> Should I choose Live, HdMedia, or NetInstall?
[18:38] <Sailoreal> On unetbootin
[18:38] <k1l_> choose where=
[18:38] <Sailoreal> ?
[18:38] <derrzzaa> Anyone know if there's a way to automatically detect optimal display settings from the CLI?  I'm struggling to configure my screen : (
[18:38] <Sailoreal> Or Daily_Live
[18:38] <k1l_> Sailoreal: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[18:39] <Pici> Sailoreal: Live would be the easiest.
[18:39] <Sailoreal> Okay
[18:39] <k1l_> Sailoreal: wait, meant that link, sorry: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:39] <Sailoreal> unetbootin or the one here?
[18:39] <Sailoreal> which should I use?
[18:40] <artisanIndia> my ubuntu server is sending me emails of failed login attempts and this is annoying me too much
[18:40] <bePolite> Hello
[18:40] <bePolite> Is there a utility I can use get help for online commands online?
[18:40] <artisanIndia> I cant find the file which is sending me emails any idea ?
[18:42] <gabb0> Hi! 12.04 server.  How can I determine if /etc/cron.daily is executed?  Running sudo crontab -l I don't see it as a job by cron itself?  Please point me in the proper direction to understanding...thanks.
[18:42] <maesrin> hi guys , my two years ssd seems to face some difficulties , this is what i get from dmesg -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10433988/
[18:42] <maesrin> should i replace it ? or try to reinstall the Os?
[18:42] <Sailoreal> What's Trusty Desktop?
[18:43] <ioria> Sailoreal, : Trusty  is the name of the 14.04 release
[18:44] <gabb0> maesrin, look into badblocks, it has an ssd option
[18:44] <Sailoreal> But my file name is not trusty desktop
[18:44] <Sailoreal> but it is on the instruction
[18:44] <gabb0> maesrin, -----> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/93686/can-i-prove-that-an-ssd-is-broken
[18:45] <Sailoreal> Why?
[18:45] <k1l_> Sailoreal: what is you filename?
[18:45] <maesrin> thanks for the reply gabb0, no i noticed that it has marked 188784 sectors as bad
[18:46] <maesrin> however the system boots normally , although there are some delays
[18:46] <Sailoreal> It's ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:46] <Sailoreal> k1l_
[18:46] <XenophonF> so in ubuntu, what's the program that switches from text mode to vfb? is it plymouth?
[18:46] <k1l_> Sailoreal: that is fine. 14.04 is trusty
[18:46] <Sailoreal> Okay :D
[18:46] <XenophonF> and how do i disable it?
[18:47] <gabb0> maesrin, you should test the SSD in a live boot environment with badblocks and determine for yourself what to do
[18:48] <Sailoreal> Ubuntu has a spyware?
[18:48] <k1l_> no
[18:48] <Sailoreal> Hmm
[18:48] <Sailoreal> It had in previous versions?
[18:48] <k1l_> no
[18:49] <Sailoreal> Yes, and I was able to change it in 'Privacy'
[18:49] <Sailoreal> Some months ago
[18:49] <atlaspaine> hello
[18:49] <k1l_> if you call the online search spyware than freifox is spyware, google search is spyware,.... that is just FUD
[18:49] <frimend> Oh, I didn't see any network connection in the upper right corner.
[18:49] <gabb0> Sailoreal, you dont know what spyware even is if you think that. :/
[18:49] <frimend> Couldn't manage to resolve it, so I reinstalled the system.
[18:50] <Sailoreal> gabb0, http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/12/richard-stallman-calls-ubuntu-spyware-because-it-tracks-searches/
[18:50] <atlaspaine> hey, who is 'drone.'
[18:50] <gabb0> ignore Sailoreal
[18:50] <frimend> But apparantly, I DO have internet connection, even without it being specified. :|
[18:50] <k1l_> if you dont want your search to search online set it to local only in privacy settings
[18:50] <gabb0> Sailoreal, are you in here to ask for help or waste our time?
[18:50] <Sailoreal> Okay, and gabb0 , that was just a question
[18:50] <gabb0> wrong channel, its a support channel
[18:51] <Sailoreal> Ok ...
[18:51] <frimend> I can see my connection if I do "ifconfig", but it isn't visible in the upper right corner... Why?
[18:51] <XenophonF> so i tried a legacy boot of ubuntu desktop 14.10 on my macbookpro5,1, and this time it crashed after displaying "controller found", followed by the error "[8.605492] nouveau E[   PDISP][0000:02:00.0] 01:0006:0242: no bios dp data"
[18:57] <XenophonF> i'm going to try a legacy boot with nomodeset replacing "quiet splash"
[18:59] <Whitor> Hi All. It doesn't seem like I can create multiple network profiles for my Wireless adapter like I can for my wired adapter. Is there a way around this?   I'd like to have a DHCP profile and a couple static ip profiles for testing... Any ideas?
[18:59] <Whitor> 14.04lts btw
[18:59] <Whitor> Only the WiFi SSID's appear in the network dropdown list.  Not the connections as created in Network Connection (edit connections at bottom)
[19:00] <Whitor> I gave them all a unique connection name... no workie
[19:00] <gabb0> Whitor, you can do that with bash scripting.
[19:01] <Whitor> gabb0,  Ok... I'll do it that way, but that seems a little wonky for something that works for physical ethernet adapters ... (and even lets you configure such in the Network Connections dialog... it just doesn't work)
[19:02] <gabb0> Agreed. to me, if you want it done you gotta sometimes do it your own way. :)
[19:03] <freeroute> hi, I don't want to install recommended packages, but I don't really know how to permanently set this in the system-wide configurations, I've searched and came up with this, but there appear a lot of contradicting/different solutions - http://askubuntu.com/questions/179060/how-not-to-install-recommended-and-suggested-packages
[19:06] <gabb0> freeroute, did you try all recommended syntaxes in the replies?
[19:06] <bekks> freeroute: BY default, recommended packages arent installed.
[19:08] <freeroute> oh huh, I thought it was the opposite. How can I tell which packages are marked as 'recommended'?
[19:10] <freeroute> d'oh it just tells under the 'suggested' packages
[19:12] <peraldon> Hey guys, anyone know how to install Ubuntu server 14.04 to a remote server via KVM? I'm using the CAB VM client
[19:13] <peraldon> Anyone? :c
[19:14] <atlaspaine> stab
[19:14] <atlaspaine> stab all non linux computers
[19:14] <atlaspaine> speak of which, would mac os technically be linux?
[19:15] <atlaspaine> since it is unix based?
[19:15] <XenophonF> atlaspaine: no
[19:15] <t5un4m1> hello
[19:16] <gabb0> atlaspaine, mac os is based on bsd. wrong channel for this topic.
[19:16] <t5un4m1> Does anyone know what the deal is with bluetooth in Kubuntu? I.E if you disable it, you can't re-enable it from the GUI, just from the command prompt? There are some bug complaints from years ago about this; is this still a bug, or am I experiencing an isolated issue?
[19:16] <XenophonF> atlaspaine: macosx is a derivative of nextstep with a bunch of freebsd's userspace
[19:17] <XenophonF> atlaspaine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix#mediaviewer/File:Unix_history-simple.svg
[19:18] <XenophonF> hey i got ubuntu to boot on my mac (finally)!
[19:19] <PXE-Guy> has any here ever done a PXE based install for Ubuntu Desktop? how do i tell it to install desktop instead of server? or get it to be in advanced mode?
[19:19] <atlaspaine> @gabb0 sorry, i don't know how this works, beginner here over here. now do i know how i got here or how to switch channels, guide me maybe?
[19:19] <chris112> hi, apt-get upgrade constantly gets stuck at unpack ntp (ubuntu trusty). tried apt-get clean, update, upgrade. reinstall etc. even when i try dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq ntp it gets stuck and just sits there :(
[19:20] <XenophonF> I had to do a legacy boot, press f6 for other options, hit escape, and replace "quiet splace" on the boot options line with "nomodeset"
[19:20] <ianp> how do i open a terminal in ubnutu desktop ?
[19:20] <ianp> unity
[19:20] <ianp> I just did a fresh install of it... tried searching for 'terminal' and 'console' in the search thingy
[19:22] <ianp> I guess it's not installed by default on the server distro. I installed server and then installed ubuntu-desktoip
[19:22] <atlaspaine> is it possible to send files in this thing?
[19:23] <SchrodingersScat> !pastebin | atlaspaine
[19:23] <gabb0> ianp,  hit CTRL-ALT-T in unity
[19:23] <gabb0> atlaspaine, try the channels app in your irc program.
[19:23] <atlaspaine> What is "!pastebin?"
[19:24] <Whitor> Does anyone have any real world experience with NVidia Optimus technology?   I'm wondering how well 14.04 handles this... or If I have to manually setup Bumblebee or Primus or something...  any idea?     Is it stable? should I run in discrete mode entirely ?
[19:24] <SchrodingersScat> atlaspaine: it's a factoid, what are you trying to send? maybe I don't understand the context, !details
[19:25] <atlaspaine> @schrodingersscat i don't have a context, just trying to understand this thing i've gotten into, apparently it's called "irc"
[19:25] <atlaspaine> Have any of you tried Windows 8 dualbooted with Ubuntu?
[19:25] <astard> hello, is there some sort of minimal ubuntu I can install? I don't need or desire X or a GUI in any way. my goal is the least disk and memory use.
[19:26] <BluesKaj> !irc | atlaspaine
[19:26] <Whitor> astard, ubuntu server
[19:26] <gabb0> atlaspaine, yes
[19:26] <astard> Whitor, thanks, i'll check it out
[19:26] <atlaspaine> No, no, no. I wish to know what this is and how it works
[19:26] <Whitor> astard, or lubuntu ... but that has a gui
[19:27] <atlaspaine> op! ubottu happens to have guided me, merci
[19:27] <gabb0> atlaspaine, head to youtube and watch some intro videos for irc
[19:27] <atlaspaine> @gabb0, how has the dualboot fared for you?
[19:27] <BluesKaj> atlaspaine, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[19:27] <gabb0> no offense, but dont waste our time with those questions. :)
[19:28] <gabb0> atlaspaine, as long as you do windows first its easy
[19:28] <astard> Whitor, yeah i've used server before and have been very pleased. so your suggestion is spot on. thank you. 595MB download :) nice
[19:28] <gabb0> atlaspaine, if you do windows last, you need some post-install boot fixes
[19:28] <BluesKaj> gabb0, not so easy anymore with UEFI
[19:28] <atlaspaine> Wasting time? I came here for guidance. And the real reason I came here was because someone told me to ping jml on freenode in this channel
[19:29] <gabb0> BluesKaj, ahh true that
[19:29] <gabb0> atlaspaine, if you need a primer on irc, this isnt the place to ask
[19:29] <atlaspaine> What is a primer?
[19:29] <ldlework> Does any one know what this means? ERROR: ld.so: object 'libdlfaker.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[19:29] <ldlework> I get it everytime I use sudu
[19:29] <ldlework> sudo*
[19:31] <atlaspaine> Ubuntu has been telling me for the past month that I have unmet dependencies. Is there a method to figure out what I am missing?
[19:33] <genii> ldlework: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Troubleshooting#error-ldso-object-libdlfakerso-from-ld_preload-cannot-be-preloaded-ignored
[19:37] <XenophonF> is it possible to do a minimal install from the graphical installer?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> atlaspaine, in the terminal, sudo apt-get -f install
[19:39] <atlaspaine> I get: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 164 not upgraded.
[19:39] <atlaspaine> N: Ignoring file 'getdeb.list.bck' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[19:39] <atlaspaine> N: Ignoring file 'getdeb.list.bck' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[19:39] <atlaspaine> atlaspaine@euclidious:~$
[19:42] <bobob> hey
[19:42] <in_deep_thought> whats the button I press to boot from usb on startup?
[19:43] <in_deep_thought> F12, F2?
[19:43] <BluesKaj> atlaspaine, alt+F2 kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list.d , copy and pate the contents to pastebin,com, and post the resulting url here after choosing submit
[19:43] <SchrodingersScat> in_deep_thought: thought that varied by manufacturer, but could be f12, sometimes esc, it's normally one of those up there
[19:44] <bobob> how do I find other channle names
[19:45] <freeroute> why does apt(itude) sometimes automatically installs (usually smaller) packages without asking the [Y/n] question?
[19:45] <SchrodingersScat> !alis | bobob
[19:48] <Keres> buonasera a tutti!!!
[19:48] <atlaspaine> blueskaj, can i post an image?
[19:48] <Keres> hello @all
[19:49] <trism> freeroute: it won't ask you the question if the only packages it needs to install are exactly the ones you ask for
[19:50] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I return sth until end of the line with grep?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> atlaspaine, copy and pate the text from  /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[19:54] <freeroute> trism: is there a possibility to add this behavior (asking for confirmation) to every package which is being installed, regardless of dependencies?
[19:54] <BluesKaj> atlaspaine,sorry, correction  alt+F2 kdesudo dolphin /etc/apt/sources.list.d , copy and paste the contents of "getdeb.list.bck" to pastebin,com, and post the resulting url here after choosing submit
[19:55] <gumble> hey my installation always freezes at "Loading initial Ram" after I select ubuntu in the grub menu
[19:55] <MeXTuX> Hi! I am not able to install webapps from Firefox on Ubuntu 14.10. When I am on Gmail, YouTube I see the popup asking me if I want to install and after I select "Install" nothing happens. Any idea?
[19:56] <in_deep_thought> SchrodingersScat: it was f12 thanks!
[19:56] <SchrodingersScat> in_deep_thought: great
[19:57] <BluesKaj> MeXTuX, is it asking to install flash ?
[19:57] <atlaspaine> bluejaj, i'm trying to open it by clicking on it, but it won't open
[19:58] <BluesKaj> open "it" ? atlaspaine , what's "it" ?
[19:59] <atlaspaine> when I enter " kdesudo dolphin /etc/apt/sources.list.d" after alt+f2 this "scope" open up
[19:59] <atlaspaine> I enter into this what you instructed
[19:59] <atlaspaine> a gear comes up with the same title as the command you told me to enter
[20:00] <atlaspaine> but I cannot open it to access what ever is stored within that you wish to see
[20:00] <trism> freeroute: I'm not sure what you are asking, do you want it to always ask for confirmation (I don't see any options to do that) or never ask for confirmation (in which case there is the -y option, though I don't really recommend that, since it is better to see what will happen before you try it)
[20:01] <BluesKaj> atlaspaine,sorry again, forgot where I was  :)  correction  alt+F2 gksudo dolphin /etc/apt/sources.list.d , copy and paste the contents of "getdeb.list.bck" to pastebin,com, and post the resulting url here after choosing submit
[20:01] <freeroute> trism: yeah I want the former (always ask confirmation). If there is no option in apt.conf or something I suppose I can use the -s flag (simulate).
[20:02] <BluesKaj> I keep making mistakes in my old atlaspaine , gksudo nautilus /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:02] <trism> freeroute: yeah there is that, although it is kind of annoying to have to check all the time. it would be nice if it would just always prompt.
[20:02] <BluesKaj> my old age
[20:03] <ioria> BluesKaj, lol
[20:04] <BluesKaj> I need a break anyway ...BBL, stuff to do for an hr or so.
[20:07] <MeXTuX> BluesKaj: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/youtube.jpg this is the only thing I see
[20:07] <freeroute> trism: someone over at #linux recommended this to me - http://libraryhacker.org/2011/09/09/apt-listchanges/
[20:08] <tics2> hola como creo un chat interno
[20:08] <tics2> en mi red lan
[20:08] <tics2> aloooo
[20:08] <tics2> holaaaaaa
[20:08] <tics2> ayudaaaaa
[20:09] <celine-ub> hello
[20:09] <trism> freeroute: apt-listchanges is very good, but it won't fix this problem because it only shows the changelogs on upgrade
[20:09] <tics2> ayuda
[20:09] <celine-ub> ayuda ?
[20:09] <tics2> ayuda -???
[20:09] <celine-ub> hablas espanol ?
[20:09] <freeroute> trism: doesn't it ask you every time / shows the changelogs before installing ?
[20:09] <Pici> !es
[20:09] <tics2> como creo un chat interno en mi red de linux
[20:09] <KingOfOOP> Where is the path of installed GUI packages ???
[20:10] <bekks> KingOfOOP: Depends on the package you installed.
[20:10] <KingOfOOP> For example : Code::Blocks
[20:11] <bekks> KingOfOOP: You have to take a look into the package contents, to find your information desired.
[20:11] <trism> freeroute: no, it only shows a changelog of a package currently install when you upgrade it (unless it has some hidden option I don't know about, I have it set to confirm here but I get no prompts on fresh installs)
[20:11] <Pici> KingOfOOP: The binary gets stuck in /usr/bin/codeblocks, the config and other libraries are put elsewhere
[20:11] <Pici> KingOfOOP: dpkg -L codeblocks will show you everything
[20:11] <ph88> hey guys i try to make my home and end key work in the terminal  od -C  HOME END gives ^[[1~^[[4~   and i have   "\e[1~": beginning-of-line "\e[4~": end-of-line   configured, is that right ?
[20:12] <ph88> is \e the same as ^[  ?
[20:12] <atlaspaine> bluekaj, it asked for my password, which I reluctantly provided, then it simply open a window with a directory of: /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:12] <celine-ub> what do you think of mate ?
[20:14] <KingOfOOP> Pici: So , all of the apps won't install on a specified folder ????
[20:15] <Pici> KingOfOOP: no, parts of packages get installed into various places.  manpages in one place, binaries in another, configs in another, libraries elsewhere.. etc.
[20:16] <KingOfOOP> How to install VMware Workstation ??
[20:16] <KingOfOOP> version 10 for 32 bit
[20:17] <TheNumb> KingOfOOP: run the installation file...
[20:17] <KingOfOOP> TheNumb: ?
[20:17] <KingOfOOP> TheNumb: What installation file ?
[20:17] <TheNumb> it comes with an installer
[20:17] <TheNumb> blahblah.bundle
[20:17] <TheNumb> right?
[20:17] <KingOfOOP> TheNumb: I don't have any installer !
[20:17] <bekks> More likely "*.run" :)
[20:18] <TheNumb> then why are you asking how to install vmware?
[20:18] <KingOfOOP> TheNumb: I mean download & install of course ...
[20:18] <TheNumb> KingOfOOP: buy it, download, install
[20:18] <TheNumb> ez
[20:19] <KingOfOOP> There is no free edition ??
[20:19] <TheNumb> no
[20:19] <TheNumb> there's vmware player
[20:19] <bekks> KingOfOOP: http://pubs.vmware.com/workstation-10/index.jsp#com.vmware.ws.get_started.doc/GUID-7179281C-903A-46A9-89EE-C10B126D4960.html
[20:19] <bekks> After purchasing VMware Workstation, just follow the installation documentation.
[20:19] <Sparky> King0f00P: there is virtualbox ...
[20:20] <KingOfOOP> Sparky: How to get it ?? is it free ?
[20:20] <TheNumb> KingOfOOP: it's in the repository.
[20:20] <Sparky> just google it ;)
[20:20] <TheNumb> And it's opensource.
[20:21] <KingOfOOP> TheNumb: Ok. thanks.
[20:26] <New_User_Ubuntu> Dear All
[20:26] <ophuk> is it possible to redirect a SOL session to a file?
[20:26] <New_User_Ubuntu> Requesting a small help, this is the error
[20:26] <New_User_Ubuntu> E: Malformed line 63 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[20:26] <New_User_Ubuntu> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[20:27] <New_User_Ubuntu> Requesting help on the same
[20:27] <jhutchins> New_User_Ubuntu: What help?
[20:27] <New_User_Ubuntu> E: Malformed line 63 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[20:27] <New_User_Ubuntu> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[20:27] <New_User_Ubuntu> deb http://cran.stat.ucla.edu/bin/linux/ubuntu/trusty/
[20:27] <New_User_Ubuntu> deb-src http://cran.stat.ucla.edu/bin/linux/ubuntu/trusty/
[20:27] <jhutchins> New_User_Ubuntu: Yes, we saw that.  Fix it.
[20:28] <jhutchins> New_User_Ubuntu: Go to line 63 in /etc/apt/sources.list and fix it, or remove that source entry.
[20:28] <New_User_Ubuntu> i am able to browse the URL via browser but when i do a update it errors out
[20:28] <New_User_Ubuntu> i need that for installing a software
[20:28] <rpp601> anyone know of a way to push with pushbullet from CLI?
[20:28] <jhutchins> New_User_Ubuntu: Your format/syntax is probably incorrect.  You could pastebin your list.
[20:29] <New_User_Ubuntu> pastebin ?
[20:29] <New_User_Ubuntu> sorry really really new to linux
[20:30] <SchrodingersScat> !pastebin | New_User_Ubuntu
[20:30] <New_User_Ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10435732/
[20:31] <New_User_Ubuntu> got it , i learnt it yest just forgot
[20:31] <thekkid> Is it normal behavior for a suspended job to be resumed by the command name? i.e. if I ctrl-z vim then type vim it resumes it instead of opening a new one.
[20:32] <craigbass76> This may be more a LibreOffice question, but I'm hoping someone in here has run into it.  I'm trying to connect to mysql from libreoffice, but I'm not seeing Java as one of the choices (from LibreOffice) in Tools > Options like I'd expect.
[20:32] <rasta> can anyone here simplify DFP for me?
 did you receive it
[20:33] <varaindemian> is it safe to remove ‘Zeitgeist’?
[20:33] <rasta> Double Click For Publishers. Someone demysify please
[20:34] <rasta> Any Google DFP experts around?
[20:34] <Pici> rasta: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[20:35]  * jhutchins googles "google dfp"
[20:35] <rasta> Pici: do u know about DFP?
[20:35] <rasta> jhutchins: I did that
[20:35] <Pici> rasta: I don't even know what it stood for until a minute ago.  It doesn't sound like an issue that Ubuntu support can help with though.  Perhaps there is a more relevant channel on freenode for it though.
[20:35] <Pici> !alis | rasta
[20:36] <RedPenguin> hey all
[20:36] <RedPenguin> I'm using MouseKeys and for no appearant reason they turn off every now and then, is there some way to prevent this?
[20:36] <bprompt> New_User_Ubuntu:    http://cran.stat.ucla.edu/bin/linux/ubuntu/    <--- read that yet?
[20:36] <rasta> Pici: help me find a channel
[20:37] <Pici> rasta: #freenode should be able to do that, #ubuntu cannot.
[20:37] <New_User_Ubuntu> bprompt : yeah i read it
[20:37] <jhutchins> rasta: That's a google issue.  They don't do irc, they do forums and mailing lists.
[20:37] <rasta> jhutchins: where can i get help?
[20:38] <New_User_Ubuntu> bprompt so i need to follow the instructions for there right?
[20:38] <dupingping> Hi everybody.
[20:38] <dupingping> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntu-dock/files/ubuntu-dock_0.9.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb/download
[20:39] <jhutchins> nW44b: So can you see the difference between line 63 and later and the rest of the repo definitions?
[20:39] <dupingping> it's MacOS's Dock for Ubuntu
[20:39] <dupingping> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntu-dock/files/ubuntu-dock_0.9.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb/download
[20:39] <jhutchins> rasta: From google.
[20:39] <dupingping> Please look and give me reviews.
[20:39] <dupingping> i'll upgrade it according to reviews.
[20:39] <rasta> jhutchins: as i said, i've searched everywhere
[20:40] <rasta> jhutchins: u people are quite useless
[20:40] <rasta> you should all get lives
[20:40] <jhutchins> rasta: I'm not suggesting you use google to search for help, I'm suggesting you contact google, most likely through their user forums.
[20:40] <SchrodingersScat> !guidelines | rasta
[20:40] <bprompt> New_User_Ubuntu:     try  -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10435914/   maybe
[20:42] <atlaspaine> Good bye.
[20:44] <New_User_Ubuntu> bprompt : trying it now
[20:44] <bprompt> k
[20:47] <New_User_Ubuntu> same error no luck
[20:47] <New_User_Ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10435990/
[20:47] <crazydiamond> Hi. I'm trying to establish software access point (to connect PDA to the internet from my laptop) using ap-hotspot and hostapd. The problem is that when I run ap-hotspot first time, connection establishes (there is log file http://dpaste.com/0XMPTNZ ), but when I stop the daemon (or e.g. disable and re-enable wifi) than it fails (log file is http://dpaste.com/1VZWGD4 )
[20:50] <bprompt_> hmm
[20:50] <bprompt_> New_User_Ubuntu:     so....you saved it, as root that is, in /etc/apt/sources.list   right?
[20:51] <New_User_Ubuntu> yes
[20:51] <bprompt_> New_User_Ubuntu:    and it gave an error on line 63 again?
[20:51] <kahtahs> crazydiamond: sounds unneeded complex with ap-hotspot and hostapd when you could just use network manager: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa/+bug/1209511
[20:51] <New_User_Ubuntu> yes
[20:52] <xcyclist> Say, I've got an ec2 account with ubuntu, but the danged thing won't let me access when I add a user as per AWS instructions.  Anyone out there see this gotcha?
[20:52] <crazydiamond> kahtahs, yep NM is good now, but, it can establish only ad-hoc IIRC, no?
[20:52] <bprompt_> New_User_Ubuntu:     but there's was line 63 in the file :/   well... the one you posted... has line 63 commented anyhow
[20:53] <bprompt_> s/was/was no/
[20:54] <New_User_Ubuntu> you mean a / is required at the end
[20:54] <New_User_Ubuntu> the output is starting from the comment i gave
[20:55] <New_User_Ubuntu> so its increased by 2 lines i guess
[20:56] <New_User_Ubuntu> bprompt: wow
[20:56] <New_User_Ubuntu> i added a slash and the error is gone
[20:56] <New_User_Ubuntu> now only warning
[20:56] <New_User_Ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10435990/
[20:57] <New_User_Ubuntu> sorry please ignore last msg
[20:57] <New_User_Ubuntu> W: GPG error: http://cran.stat.ucla.edu trusty/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 51716619E084DAB9
[20:57] <New_User_Ubuntu> this is the warning now
[20:58] <bprompt_> hmmm darn connection :/
[20:59] <New_User_Ubuntu> :( happens
[20:59] <New_User_Ubuntu> W: GPG error: http://cran.stat.ucla.edu trusty/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 51716619E084DAB9
[20:59] <bprompt_> is very jumpy.... it's been like so for a few days now :(
[20:59] <New_User_Ubuntu> pasting the error for your reference
[21:00] <bprompt_> New_User_Ubuntu:     yeah... that doesn't matter much... just say "y" to ok it, simply means they didn't issue a gpg key for the ppa, some do, some don'tr
[21:00] <New_User_Ubuntu> oh so its installed correctly
[21:00] <New_User_Ubuntu> can i go ahead with the installation
[21:00] <bprompt_> New_User_Ubuntu:     then do a "sudo apt-get update"   then try the install
[21:01] <New_User_Ubuntu> super , same warning when i do it
[21:01] <New_User_Ubuntu> after update
[21:01] <bprompt_> New_User_Ubuntu:      right... tis ok anyhow
[21:01] <New_User_Ubuntu> so it means i am cont now ?
[21:01] <New_User_Ubuntu> *continue
[21:01] <bprompt_> New_User_Ubuntu:    yes
[21:02] <New_User_Ubuntu> bprompt_: thanks a lot for the help
[21:02] <bprompt_> np
[21:03] <BluesKaj> there should be GPG Key available for that repos/ppa if that's what it is
[21:06] <New_User_Ubuntu> BluesKaj: where can i find it ?
[21:07] <New_User_Ubuntu> i mean is there any command to retrieve the key ?
[21:08] <varaindemian> is anybody reading me?
[21:08] <Jordan_U> varaindemian: Yes. If nobody around knows the answer to your question, then nobody will respond.
[21:09] <Jordan_U> varaindemian: Repeating your question after about 10 minutes is sometimes helpful, as different people will be available.
[21:09] <varaindemian> Thanks for your reply. I am new to irc :D
[21:09] <bprompt_> New_User_Ubuntu:      it doesn't matter much in order to access the ppa files though, some issue a gpg IIRC, some don't, thus the apt-get says that it can't verify such and such, is just a way to let folks know that, an extra certification info, hasn't been provided reliably, and thus you should be aware of that in case you didn't know
[21:09] <Guest16646> for some reason I can't get grub to recognize my new win 7 install, how can i fix this?
[21:10] <New_User_Ubuntu> oh like that , got it ..!
[21:10] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Guest16646
[21:11] <bprompt_> New_User_Ubuntu:     think about it as ..... a gpg vendor is a vendor with a fancy dress and car, one without is just a fellow with a startup product, doesn't mean it's bad, just very new or for specifics only
[21:11] <Jordan_U> varaindemian: You're welcome :)
[21:12] <New_User_Ubuntu> :) (Y)
[21:12] <BBLLCC> hi
[21:13] <BBLLCC> do you know where thunderbird / xubuntu stores my messages? I didnt delete any message, but suddenly my inbox has only 4 messages, not the 300 that should be there
[21:14] <gsd> anyone know anything about how to get my usb wifi adapter to work?
[21:14] <rpp601> hey guys, i'm trying to make an alias that has " in it already, so alias thinks when i do 'alias notify="etc work notfy blah"" it's screwing it up, is there a way around this?
[21:15] <gsd> rpp601: escape the first double quote with a \
[21:15] <bprompt_> rpp601:     try escaping it \"
[21:16] <bprompt_> rpp601:     alias    NAME="echo \"hello my name is the long ranger\"";
[21:16] <rpp601> so it would go from ": "Job Finished", "body": "Work Done!"}'" to e": "Job Finished", "body": "Work Done!"}'\"
[21:17] <nrdb> I would like to allow the user 'remote' to only be able to run the '/root/aoe' without a password .... I have tried to work out the sudoers line but I am not sure its correct.  can someone help please.
[21:17] <rpp601> i'll play with it
[21:18] <bprompt_> rpp601:    hmm you'd escape the double-quotes INSIDE the "   "  section, no the other way around
[21:18] <Jordan_U> rpp601: What is your end goal in creating this alias? For anything even remotely complex I tent to simply define functions rather than trying to use an alias.
[21:18] <rpp601> ok, let me show you the actual command and output
[21:18] <rpp601> its a push
[21:19] <rpp601> alias workdone="curl -u xxxxxx: -X POST https://api.pushbullet.com/v2/pushes --header 'Content-Type: application/json' --data-binary '{"type": "note", "title": "Job Finished", "body": "Work Done!"}'"
[21:19] <rpp601> bash: !"}'": event not found
[21:19] <gabb0> BBLLCC, it is usually ~/.thunderbird
[21:20] <eddieftw> Hey everyone.
[21:20] <varaindemian> hey
[21:20] <BBLLCC> gabb0, found it, but I cannot find the rest of the messages. where could they be?
[21:20] <gabb0> BBLLCC, hard to tell from over here.. you 100% certain you didn't change a view config that is hiding it?
[21:21] <gabb0> BBLLCC, you can try an mbox viewer app and go through the folder that way
[21:21] <rpp601> bprompt_: Jordan_U
[21:22] <bprompt_> rpp601:   alias workdone="curl -u xxxxxx: -X POST https://api.pushbullet.com/v2/pushes --header 'Content-Type: application/json' --data-binary '{\"type\": \"note\", \"title\": \"Job Finished\", \"body\": \"Work Done!\"}'"         <--- try that on the curl
[21:24] <bprompt_> rpp601:  !"}"     event not found, sounds like, it exited the "alias" block section and tried to get a prompt history call,   like say to get the history command in say line 25    -> !25  to fetch it, thus
[21:25] <varaindemian> Jordan_U: can you give me al the commands needed for connecting to ubuntu channel?
[21:25] <anonymous__> hello
[21:25] <bprompt_> allo
[21:25] <rpp601> that didn't work, i'll just copy and paste that long command
[21:26] <Jordan_U> varaindemian: For irssi you would run "/connect irc.freenode.net" then "/nick your_nick" then "/join #ubuntu".
[21:26] <geirha> bprompt_: You cannot escape history expansion inside double quotes. The only way around it is to disable history expansion by running   set +H
[21:27] <bprompt_> geirha:    hmm rpp601 <--- is trying to get an alias set to a "curl" call with the arguments, trying to use the double-quotes in the alias, thus
[21:27] <geirha> bprompt_: or in this case, you can avoid it by using a function instead, since that will drop one level of quoting
[21:27] <geirha> bprompt_: Oh, I should have read more of the backlog
[21:27] <bprompt_> np
[21:28] <EricB_> If I'm running lamp on 10.04, and I only need to access the web server remotely from specific IP's, is a firewall enough security?
[21:28] <wsky> what would be the reason that grub2 menu does not appear after i choose ubuntu on my mac that uses rEFInd?
[21:28] <rpp601> bprompt_, geirha, alias ="curl -u xxxxxxx: -X POST https://api.pushbullet.com/v2/pushes --header 'Content-Type: application/json' --data-binary '{\"type\": \"note\", \"title\": \"Job Finished\", \"body\": \"Work Done!\"}'" gives me bash: !\"}'": event not found
[21:28] <Jordan_U> wsky: What does happen when you select Ubuntu?
[21:28] <cRLH> i wanna test something, does anyone wanna help me?
[21:28] <geirha> rpp601: use a function instead:  unalias workdone; workdone() { curl -u xxxxxx: -X POST https://api.pushbullet.com/v2/pushes --header 'Content-Type: application/json' --data-binary '{"type": "note", "title": "Job Finished", "body": "Work Done!"}'; }
[21:29] <wsky> Jordan_U: a blank screen appears and after a while it boots the newest kernel
[21:29] <rpp601> geirha: k lemme try it
[21:29] <Jordan_U> wsky: Ubuntu hides the grub menu by default, so that is normal.
[21:29] <wsky> Jordan_U: ah i see, how would i make it appear?
[21:30] <rpp601> geirha: no error, then workdone becomes my command?
[21:30] <geirha> rpp601: yup
[21:31] <rpp601> you are a wizard!
[21:31] <geirha> run:  type workdone   to see what type of command it is
[21:31] <rpp601> oh wow, i totally get it. THANKS guys
[21:31] <BluesKaj> New_User_Ubuntu, run this in a terminal,  sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys E084DAB9 , I copied it from this site,  http://cran.stat.ucla.edu/
[21:32] <bmomjian> My network "Edit connections" is greyed out on Ubuntu 12.04.  Any ideas on the cause?  Also, "VPN/Configure VPN" is also greyed out.
[21:34] <wsky> Jordan_U: anyways, i got it working, thanks
[21:34] <rpp601> geirha:  one more thing, if i control + z a job that's been running for 90+ hours.... is there a chance 'fg' will not work?
[21:35] <BluesKaj> bmomjian, do you have a vpn client installed?
[21:35] <rpp601> geirha: rather... how dependable is 'fg'?
[21:36] <bmomjian> no, I do not.  I have another laptop, same OS, that does have both options not greyed out.  Neither use VPNs.
[21:36] <bmomjian> I tried uninstalling/installing the network manager, no change
[21:36] <geirha> rpp601: there are some corner cases where ctrl+z and fg doesn't do the expected. One case is when a loop construct is involved in the interactive shell, and one is when it's an external command that is very poorly written. Most likely you'll hit neither.
[21:37] <geirha> rpp601: If you think it's hanging, you might want to attach strace to it, to see what it's doing
[21:37] <rpp601> geirha: thanks again
[21:37] <BluesKaj> bmomjian, have you updated and upgraded lately ? I have to ask .
[21:38] <bmomjian> yes, I have
[21:38] <bmomjian> well minor upgrades, yes, have been on 12.04 for a while
[21:38] <rpp601> geirha: no, my thinking was this. to control z the program - then run 'fg; workdone' get it?
[21:39] <geirha> rpp601: Ah, yes. That should work fine.
[21:39] <bmomjian> I checked /usr/share/polkit-1/actions;  same on working and non-working laptops
[21:39] <BluesKaj> bmomjian, try a dist-upgrade
[21:40] <bmomjian> oh, wow, that sounds severe
[21:40] <BluesKaj> no it's not, it's amethod to bring existing packages up to date
[21:41] <alinmear> hey guys! is there a way to mask all packages of an repository/ppa. e.g. i want to install 2 programs from getdeb repo but nothing more and don't wanna have something else pulled in. coming from gentoo there are package.masks to do so. is there an equivalent in ubuntu world?
[21:41] <mrkent> Does apt cache old packages that got upgraded?
[21:41] <bmomjian> what is odd is that I can access wired and wireless just fine from System Settings/Network
[21:41] <bmomjian> it is only from the nm-applet that there is a problem
[21:43] <rpp601> geirha: any reason my new function won't work from screen?
[21:43] <BluesKaj> bmomjian, I have to go
[21:43] <geirha> rpp601: did you put it in .bashrc?
[21:43] <bmomjian> thanks for trying
[21:43] <rpp601> geirha: of course not
[21:44] <rpp601> lol
[21:44] <geirha> rpp601: then that might be why :)
[21:44] <bprompt_> heheh
[21:45] <Joel> how can I get the description of a .deb without installing it?
[21:46] <Joel> dpkg - p only works on installed packages
[21:48] <OerHeks> apt-cache search <package>
[21:50] <rpp601> geirha: do i have to define the whole thing again in bash?
[21:51] <geirha> rpp601: the whole function? yes. It's only one command in there, so it's not that long
[21:51] <Joel> OerHeks, it was actually dpkg -f, thanks though
[21:52] <geirha> In a shell where you do have that function defined, you can write:   declare -f workdone >> ~/.bashrc
[21:52] <rpp601> geirha: :) k
[21:52] <geirha> to make it "permanent", so to speak
[21:53] <spaceindaver> Hi all, I was messing around with a game engine yesterday and my system crashed. After I rebooted and logged in unity failed to launch. All I get is my desktop background without the unity launcher, the status bar at the top and no window borders
[21:53] <spaceindaver> After checking some logs I found that compiz failed to load opengl
[21:53] <weezybusy> Hello there!
[21:53] <gabb0> spaceindaver, make another account, login to it and if it works its probably a userspace issue
[21:53] <bprompt> allo
[21:54] <spaceindaver> Hello :-)
[21:54] <spaceindaver> Okay, I'll give that a go
[21:54] <gabb0> spaceindaver, since i answered before you typed the second line, my advice might not prove anything,...still worth a try tho
[21:55] <rpp601> geirha: it's in there but screen doesn't seem to want to do it yet. could it be that i need to restart screen?
[21:55] <bmomjian> OK, new report;  the updates for 12.04 today have disabled the nm-applet "Edit Connections".  I just did a restart of the nm-applet after a 12.04 update and the problem happened.  I already had this problem on another laptop today.  Where do I report this?
[21:56] <bmomjian> No wonder I could not find a report of this on Launchpad or via Google
[21:56] <spaceindaver> Hello again, I was able to login with my guest account and everything works fine. Any idea how I can fix my other account?
[21:56] <rpp601> bmomjian: the 'edit connections' has been buggy for me forever
[21:57] <geirha> rpp601: ah, it's a long running shell in there? well you can source .bashrc again, or exec a new bash.     source ~/.bashrc   # the former
[21:57] <Jordan_U> !bug | bmomjian
[21:57] <DorkSector> How do I ensure that when I connect a ubuntu machine to a network, I get to know the IP it's on? Say I have a machine with a config and power it on and just connect it to the network. I don't have access to it except via the network, so how do I get to know its IP?
[21:58] <Ben64> DorkSector: depends how you have your network set up
[21:58] <__david> !help
[21:58] <DorkSector> Ben64, hmm, what if it's a simple home network and I have the mac address of the machine (when I mean simple network, just a local wifi network connected to WAN via a router)
[21:59] <DorkSector> __david, was that for me?4
[21:59] <__david> !patience
[21:59] <__david> no DorkSector
[21:59] <DorkSector> okay
[22:00] <MLM> DorkSector: You could try: "curl wtfismyip.com/json"
[22:00] <Ben64> DorkSector: either look in your router's config page to see the ip it got, or ping scan the network, or listen to arp stuff using wireshark
[22:00] <DorkSector> MLM that would give you your IP on the WAN, specifically the IP wtfismyip can see. I meant my IP on the local Wireless network
[22:01] <DorkSector> Ben64, Ah but that's the thing, I can't have users doing that. I am connecting my Pi to the network and want the users to do minimal work to get the IP
[22:01] <Ben64> i don't see how this is related to Ubuntu support
[22:02] <DorkSector> Ben64, Because my Pi runs Ubuntu
[22:02] <Ben64> #ubuntu-arm maybe, but this still seems less like an OS thing, and more like a ##networking thing
[22:02] <DorkSector> Gotcha, thanks!
[22:02] <OerHeks> give it a static ip
[22:03] <DorkSector> OerHeks, not always possible, what if it's taken (sorry, I should've been more clear, the user is connecting a new node to his network)
[22:03] <DorkSector> It's fine, I'll ask on ##networking
[22:03] <DorkSector> Thanks anyway
[22:04] <Joel> DorkSector, service discovery.
[22:04] <Joel> there are many MANY ways to do so.
[22:04] <DorkSector> Joel, let me google that
[22:05] <DorkSector> Joel, turns out that's very generic, could you be a little more specific please?
[22:05] <Joel> DorkSector, avahi
[22:06] <Joel> that is one of MANY
[22:06] <Joel> apple's famous for creating bonjour
[22:08] <bmomjian> OK, nm-applet bug report submitted for Ubuntu 12.04.
[22:08] <bmomjian> thanks for suggesting an update might have broken it
[22:09] <DorkSector> Joel, hmm, that might be something, thanks!
[22:10] <isomorphismes> I'm usually confused which things should be started with eg "lightdm" and which should be started with "service start lightdm". What's the difference between the types of programs and how do you know which style to use when?
[22:12] <k1l> things you start with service are upstart services. that are base"programs".
[22:12] <New_User_Ubuntu> i issued this command tar xvzf rmr2_3.3.1.tar.gz
[22:12] <New_User_Ubuntu> and the file got gunzipped and stored in the folder
[22:13] <New_User_Ubuntu> but as per instructions i am supposed to issue ./configure
[22:13] <New_User_Ubuntu> but if i give that command in the folder its giving an error
[22:14] <k1l> is there a configure script in the folder? see with "ls -al"
[22:15] <New_User_Ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10436990/
[22:15] <New_User_Ubuntu> doesn't look like it
[22:16] <k1l> yep
[22:16] <New_User_Ubuntu> is there any other way to install that file
[22:17] <k1l> i dont know what you are doing there at all. it sounds like you want to compile something
[22:17] <New_User_Ubuntu> i have file that has an extension .tar.gz
[22:17] <New_User_Ubuntu> i want to install it , so i used xvzf rmr2_3.3.1.tar.gz
[22:18] <New_User_Ubuntu> to zip it and it became a folder
[22:18] <bprompt_> New_User_Ubuntu:     didn't you just installed that ppa?    and it gave you that file?   the idea behind the ppa is that it'd do all the installing automatically
[22:19] <New_User_Ubuntu> bprompt_: i have moved further after that
[22:19] <bprompt_> k
[22:19] <New_User_Ubuntu> i am trying to install the packages for installing R
[22:20] <bprompt_> New_User_Ubuntu:     well. you do have .configure in that listing... so    "./configure"   should run, assuming the file has execution permission, if not, chmod a+x on it
[22:20] <bprompt_> New_User_Ubuntu:      "./.configure"    rather
[22:22] <k1l> New_User_Ubuntu: you need to get things sorted. you dont install that .tar.gz
[22:22] <k1l> New_User_Ubuntu: that tar.gz includes (or should include) the sourcecode and you want to compile it so you can "install" it.
[22:23] <k1l> New_User_Ubuntu: the site you gave that file from should have instructions what to do with that code.
[22:23] <New_User_Ubuntu> https://github.com/RevolutionAnalytics/RHadoop/wiki/Downloads
[22:23] <aldasgasdf> hi guys, I´m using Lubuntu 14.04. Sometimes I switch to another Window Manager, which is i3. The issue that I have when I want to connect with another Wifi, I have to switch back to LXDE and choose the another network in the panel. Is there a way to trigger wifi list with a command?
[22:23] <New_User_Ubuntu> i got it from that link
[22:25] <New_User_Ubuntu> wow
[22:25] <New_User_Ubuntu> K1l super
[22:26] <New_User_Ubuntu> slowly but steadily learning ...:)
[22:27] <bprompt_> aldasgasdf:     I use lxde window manager, though I run gnome-network-manager, thus I can put a shortcut to "nm-applet" on any window manager I wish, and get the network connections list, I'd think you could do the same for "i3", and give it a shortcut to a dock or system tray it may have
[22:27] <samuel_> m
[22:27] <samuel_> h
[22:28] <aldasgasdf> bprompt_, thank you for your reply. Should I download the package gnome-network-manager or is this package preinstalled in my lubuntu?
[22:29] <Guest16646> I have no sound playback in rhythmbox, how can i fix this?
[22:30] <bprompt_> aldasgasdf:     not sure if Lubuntu includes it, but you can check with ->    dpkg --list | network-manager-gnome;    if not there, then install it, sure ->   sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[22:31] <bprompt_> aldasgasdf:      and once install, you'd use the "nm-applet" to call the manager from anywhere
[22:33] <bprompt_> hmmm
[22:34] <bprompt_> aldasgasdf:    sorta  missed something therre ->    dpkg --list | grep network-manager-gnome:      to check for it =)
[22:34] <Vespero> What up! Got that indicator working :D
[22:35] <aldasgasdf> bprompt_, thank you. It seems working for me.
[22:35] <tos-1> bprompt_, aldasgasdf: `dpkg -l network-manager-gnome | egrep ^ii` The status "ii" is important, because it tells you, whether the package is really installed.
[22:36] <bprompt_> np
[23:04] <arun_> guys, is Xfce for Ubuntu undergoing ?
[23:05] <k1l> arun_: what do you mean?
[23:05] <compdoc> Xubuntu is pretty current
[23:05] <compdoc> its actively being updated, etc
[23:06] <arun_> compdoc: thanks
[23:06] <arun_> k1l: thanks. I got the point.
[23:06] <notdaniel> hey guys, after upgrading from 14.04.1 to 14.04.2, my display is mostly white and has lines going through it. can't see what i'm supposed to at all. i have intel integrated graphics. but plugging into an external monitor works...
[23:07] <notdaniel> also, the intel graphics driver installer which works on 14.04.1 gives an error that i don't have any intel hardware when i try to run it on 14.04.2
[23:07] <notdaniel> not sure if anyone has any thoughts, i have not had to debug display drivers really
[23:07] <Vespero> Don't have a lot of experience with Intel
[23:11] <adsfadsf> Hi guys, can somebody help me briefly on how to install this font https://github.com/lucy/tewi-font  to run it on my ubuntu. I've done the steps mention on the page, but I can't still see the font in lxappearnce
[23:11] <solsTiCe> hi. I am trying to play armagetronad on my dual screen setup. but the game is launched on the 2 screens at the same time. How do I set it up to run it on one screen ? I could disable one screen in System Settings > Display. But how to do it without disabling one screen ?
[23:13] <platz> xfce and systemd have some oddities still
[23:13] <platz> esp w/ power manager
[23:14] <bprompt_> adsfadsf:      easy,  make ~/.fonts,   it'd be there already anyway, drop font files there, done :)
[23:16] <platz> also I appear to be the last person using wicd, but chose it because it just works under i3 without a lot of deps
[23:17] <kostkon> solsTiCe, you could try this:   export SDL_VIDEO_FULLSCREEN_HEAD=1 armagetronad
[23:18] <solsTiCe> kostkon: yeah: I just found it on the web
[23:18] <kostkon> solsTiCe, ;)
[23:18] <solsTiCe> kostkon: does not work :-(
[23:21] <adsfadsf> bprompt_: thank you very much
[23:22] <bprompt_> np
[23:24] <Scatiba> wazzup
[23:26] <spaceindaver> Hi all, my compiz fails to load opengl which means unity can't start after I log in. Any idea how I can fix it?
[23:28] <k1l> spaceindaver: make sure you have the kernel headers to your kernel isntalled and the video driver gets loaded properly
[23:28] <spaceindaver> Okay, how can I check if the video driver was loaded properly?
[23:29] <k1l> see dmesg and Xorg.log
[23:29] <daftykins> spaceindaver: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:29] <k1l> but you can check if the other users can login and have the same issues
[23:30] <Scatiba> alguem pode xupar minha rola?
[23:30] <k1l> !pt | Scatiba
[23:32] <spaceindaver> daftykins, hang on, I am logged into a guest session so I could try searching for a solution, I will log in on the broken account and get the log
[23:32] <daftykins> spaceindaver: there's no point, /var/log is system wide.
[23:32] <daftykins> there's only one, not one per user
[23:32] <daftykins> just run what i said.
[23:33] <k1l> spaceindaver: does it work on the guest account?
[23:34] <UBUN> HY every one
[23:34] <daftykins> ...
[23:34] <UBUN> can someonz help me with my ubuntu problem!!
[23:35] <daftykins> not until you describe it
[23:36] <spaceindaver_> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10437959/
[23:36] <UBUN> I remove java open jdk form my ubuntu version, restart the computer and it computer can't fonctionne correctly
[23:37] <spaceindaver_> daftykins, I can log in as another user and everything works fine, its just my primary account that fails to run unity
[23:37] <daftykins> oh ok. nothing to do with graphics drivers then
[23:37] <spaceindaver_> Also, sorry for any delays, my internet connection is a little flaky
[23:37] <UBUN> daftykins:  I remove java open jdk form my ubuntu version, restart the computer and it computer can't fonctionne correctly
[23:37] <daftykins> spaceindaver_: login as your affected user at a TTY, then run "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit"
[23:37] <daftykins> UBUN: ask the channel, not me
[23:37] <k1l> spaceindaver_: if it works for other users then its a user setting. maybe reset the users gnome settings then
[23:38] <spaceindaver_> kil, how can I reset the gnome settings?
[23:38] <daftykins> you rename the gnome folders
[23:38] <daftykins> in your ~
[23:39] <UBUN> daftykins: I did it
[23:40] <UBUN> before ask you
[23:41] <spaceindaver_> daftylkins, here is the ouput from "ls -al ~/" http://paste.ubuntu.com/10438010/
[23:42] <daftykins> ugh that's messy
[23:42] <mazzy> hi. who can help me fix an issue with iptables?
[23:42] <daftykins> ##networking
[23:43] <mazzy> thank you daftykins
[23:43] <genii> daftykins: Craploads of Xauthority files in there
[23:43] <spaceindaver_> daftykins, yeah sorry, I have had this laptop for a while :-p
[23:43] <daftykins> spaceindaver_: can you pastebin ~/.Xauthority and .xsession-errors ?
[23:46] <spaceindaver_> daftykins, here is my xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10438097/ I couldn't do my Xauthority
[23:46] <daftykins> how come?
[23:47] <spaceindaver_> daftykins, pastebinit crashed with a unicode error
[23:47] <daftykins> heh
[23:47] <UBUN> any one to help me??
[23:48] <daftykins> your Xorg log suggests you're using only intel graphics on a laptop, so drivers weren't going to be much of an issue
[23:48] <daftykins> spaceindaver_: so on your affected user, try "mv ~/.config ~/.configold" then restart, see if unity works
[23:48] <spaceindaver_> daftykins, well I have an Nvidia card as well, I use primusrun to launch progams with that
[23:49] <daftykins> oh? your log said nothing about it
[23:49] <TijG> UBUN: just ask your question, somebody will anwser
[23:49] <daftykins> usually they mention both
[23:49] <UBUN> TijG: thank's
[23:50] <daftykins> UBUN: what language do you speak?
[23:50] <spaceindaver_> daftykins, yeah I thought that was weird too. I'm not sure what I did to break it either, was trying out a game dev library and my system crashed, when I rebooted unity failed to launch, maybe it messed with my configuration in some way
[23:50] <daftykins> not if another user works, nah
[23:50] <UBUN> so, my ubuntu can't restart after removing java open jdk, what should I do!!
[23:51] <daftykins> ubuntu does not rely upon java to run, so that's a bit weird.
[23:51] <UBUN> daftykins: french or arabic :)
[23:51] <daftykins> !fr
[23:51] <spaceindaver_> daftykins, I will mv my config and reboot, see what happens. Thanks for the help though :-)
[23:51] <daftykins> no problemo
[23:51] <TijG> UBUN: can't restart? what do you mean? does "sudo reboot" work in Terminal?
[23:53] <UBUN> TijG: I means by that, when I restart my computer afer the java open jdk being removing, I can't acess my ubuntu desktop
[23:54] <TijG> UBUN: what doesn't work? what do you expect to see?
[23:54] <genii> UBUN: How did you remove it, through the Software Center or some other way?
[23:54] <TijG> the graphical interface, does that work?
[23:54] <TijG> do you get some sort of error message?
[23:55] <UBUN> TijG: I can not access my desktop on unbutu , he stops in the middle
[23:55] <TijG> UBUN: the middle?
[23:57] <delinquentme> the defacto development machine for ubuntu ....
[23:57] <delinquentme> MBP? or a ThinkPad?
[23:57] <TijG> ThinkPad
[23:57] <UBUN> TijG: I mean, it can't display the desktop, it stops before
[23:58] <spaceindaver> daftykins, unity is back! thanks for all the help :-)