[01:02] <VolUTFan> I wouldn't be asking but I forgot.  I changed the setting in system settings for desktop effects/all effects/and enabled the desktop cube animation.  What is the macro-key combo to flip between screens
[01:05] <HighHo> Scrolling the the mouse on an open desktop is how mine work.
[01:08] <VolUTFan> yea, thats one way to do it, but I remember the cube animation being a lot slower.  using the scrollwheel, it flips by so fast you can barely make out the effect
[01:09] <VolUTFan> i remember there used to be a cube pop up center screen and you could move it around like a rubiks cube
[01:11] <VolUTFan> i think I found it, alt-F11
[01:11] <VolUTFan> then you can grab it with your mouse and move it around or use arrows
[01:12] <VolUTFan> sry ctrl - F11, is the correct keys
[05:24] <VolUTFan> ok, I am logged in as my user account with sudo rights.  I need to give www-data user read and execute rights on a folder.  What is the correct syntax to get that to work under terminal
[05:25] <VolUTFan> I was trying sudo chmod 777 directory/ www-data, but doesn't seem to work.  man chmod doesn't specify that granular
[09:11] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:04] <beluga_> oh noble warriors of Kubuntu, the LibreOffice tribe calls for your help once again https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89697  "Cannot successfully install LO 4.4.1.2 on Kubuntu 14.04"
[10:23] <Riddell> beluga_: #kubuntu-devel probably has a better chance of reaching someone who can look at it
[10:24] <Riddell> beluga_: any idea where he's getting the packages?
[10:25] <beluga_> Riddell: I'll find the wiki page
[10:28] <beluga_> Riddell: well the packages are in the main LibO website http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64&version=4.4 instructions he used are here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Install/Linux
[10:30] <Riddell> ug, download a tar of .debs and install them, messy :(
[10:31] <lordievader> Saves compiling the beast ;)
[11:13] <simon_> hello, can someone please help me? some shortcuts dont work in firefox?
[11:14] <simon_> (I dont think they are set at KDE otherwise - so they "should" work.. but they dont. the do diffent stuff than supposed to)
[11:19] <simon_> STRG+D doesnt bookmark stuff but strangewise scrollls down one page like spacebar should. I cannot use any shortcut for bookmarking things! (help?)
[11:27] <Walex2> simon_: look at the Firefox "Customizable Shortcuts" extension to check what your shortcut bindings are.
[11:28] <Walex2> simon_: also 'kcmshell4 standard_actions' and 'kcmshell4 keys'
[11:31] <simon_> Walex2: well, customizable shortcuts tells me that bookmarking a page would be "ctrl+d" but it doesnt work..
[11:31] <simon_> Walex2: how to I check the kcmshell4 things are those shell commands?
[11:32] <hateball> yes, run them in a terminal
[11:32] <hateball> or find them in settings via gui
[11:33] <simon_> terminal is easier.. will check that . thx.
[11:36] <simon_> kcmshell4 standard_actions opened a window showing kde shortcuts, bookmarks are ctrl+b..so they dont interfere with mozilla bookmark shortcut - right?
[11:39] <Walex2> simon_: you need to check in both whether anything is a global binding for c-d, not what is bound to "add bookmarks"
[11:40] <simon_> oh - thx
[11:43] <simon_> no bindings for ctrl+d ....strange... can I check the keykodes somehow? maybe my computer just "sucks"? and there are wrong keycodes submitted to the OS ?..
[11:44] <hateball> simon_: run "xev" in a terminal
[11:45] <simon_> (its an acer V3-111p netbook... and sometimes before the keyboard hat errors, doing wrong actions, muting sound when pressing cursor or disabling touchpad .. or strange stuff)
[11:46] <hateball> have you made sure it's not mapped a weird keyboard layout? it's in keyboard settings as well
[11:46] <hateball> apparently there is a setting for "acer laptop"
[11:49] <simon_> hateball: well... i cannot find my keyboard-settings :)
[11:49] <simon_> (its not the previous kcmshell stuff)
[11:49] <simon_> (must be at kde systemsettings?)
[11:49] <hateball> simon_: alt+f2 -> type "keyboard"
[11:50] <hateball> or whatever you've bound krunner to, alt+f2 is default
[11:50] <hateball> I have no idea where stuff is in menus, I only type to find :p
[11:50] <hateball> it launches "kcmshell4 kcm_keyboard" apparently
[11:51] <simon_> i like typing to find also better..
[11:51] <simon_> okay, it shows 101generic-keyboard.. seems to be wrong..
[11:52] <hateball> you can try changing, but I don't know if it helps
[11:52] <hateball> doesnt hurt to try at least :)
[11:52] <simon_> yes.. checking now..
[11:52] <hateball> not sure if you need to restart your plasma session after doing so either
[11:52] <simon_> okay.. was about to ask if i need to restart..
[11:58] <Walex2> simon_: no.
[12:01] <simon_> okay. this acer computers suck so bad! now (no restart of plasma) ctrl+f doesnst work no more.. (seriously?)
[12:02] <hateball> :\
[12:04] <simon_> (brb. restart plasma)
[12:06] <simon_> soo... thank you guys for your help (a lot) but i think this computer is just some crap with a crappy stupid keyboard. -_-
[12:10] <simon_> current situation brings another question to my mind: has anyone an idea of an affordable small linux-supported laptop? (I know linux-on-laptops already but am not satisfied with it)
[12:10] <hateball> simon_: that's more of a question for #kubuntu-offtopic I guess
[12:12] <hateball> simon_: or perhaps ##hardware even more so
[12:18] <simon_> thx i'm new to this irc thing.. will visit other chancels then.. merci.
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:27] <simon_> I just changed my firefox shortcut for adding-bookmark to ctrl+o ... and then it brings me to the recently visited site (line alt+leftcursor).. even that doesnt help... i'm screwed.
[12:28] <Walex2> simon_: use 'xev' to check what is actually being sent and decoded
[12:29] <Walex2> simon_: otherwise it must be some peculiar Firefox issue
[12:29] <hateball> yeah, does the keyboard misbehave in Qt/KDE apps as well?
[12:30] <simon_> Walex2: is there a table with mapping keys to the keycodes displayed by xev?
[12:31] <simon_> Walex2:
[12:31] <simon_> Walex2:  sorry my fault
[12:32] <simon_> the keys are mentioned in braces at the console-output of xev.. thx. so.. linux shows me the correct keys, soooo -> keyboard has no hardware malfunction! (i thought it'd be broke..)
[12:35] <gomjabbar_> list
[13:17] <simon_> Walex2: hateball: if you're interested in the "solution".. for my problem.. since you helped me find out that the keyboard is not broken and it  is likely to be a firefox problem.. the firefox plugin "vimperator" for vi-like keyboard-usage fucked up the shortcuts!... anyway thanks again for your help! wouldnt have gotten it otherwiese (I guess)..
[13:18] <hateball> simon_: :)
[13:18] <hateball> simon_: glad it's solved !
[13:19] <simon_> me too.. now i can save bookmarks and use ctrl+f again :)
[16:56] <zendrix> whats going on guys how is everybody doing today?
[18:05] <Scunizi> how do I restart the desktop environment from cli?  Coming out of sleep I get a black screen with a mouse cursor.
[18:05] <rberg_> 'service lightdm restart'
[18:06] <Scunizi> rberg_: thanks
[18:15] <VolUTFan> Is someone out there that can give me an ear for a few minutes that knows about simlinks?  I can follow the simlink in dolphin, and terminal but not in a basic basic default install of apache2 on Kubuntu.  Im in a laughable state right now trying to figure this out
[18:15] <VolUTFan> I believe the word is Please
[18:17] <genii> Wherever the symlink points to needs to be owned by the user which apache runs as.
[18:17] <genii> So www-data
[18:17] <rberg_> do you have "Options FollowSymLinks" enabled and is the user apachee is running as allowed to read the linked file?
[18:18] <VolUTFan> I did add www-data as a user with 777 rights to the full physical directory
[18:19] <VolUTFan> the apache2.config shows /var/www/ as the following <Directory /var/www/>
[18:19] <VolUTFan>         Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
[18:19] <VolUTFan>         AllowOverride None
[18:19] <VolUTFan>         Require all granted
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[18:19] <VolUTFan> sorry, didn't mean to put in on there with 5 lines
[18:19] <lordievader> !paste
[18:20] <VolUTFan> I am not sure how to check to see if user apachee is runnign as allowed
[18:20] <genii> Should also check the 000-default
[18:20] <VolUTFan> in sites-allowed?
[18:21] <genii> VolUTFan: Apache on Ubuntu/Debian usually runs as www-data:www-data
[18:21] <VolUTFan> you mean the service itself?
[18:21] <genii> Yep
[18:21] <VolUTFan> please forgive me ignorance on apache.  This is the first time with me working with apache.  Let me see if I can locate that genii
[18:25] <VolUTFan> ok, how do I check to see what user its running under?  I can't figure it out
[18:25] <VolUTFan> I feel like such a noob
[18:30] <genii> ps aux | grep apache
[18:30]  * genii wanders back to work
[18:31] <VolUTFan> yes, its running as www-data.  How do I change it to apachee
[18:31] <genii> You don't
[18:32] <VolUTFan> ok which 000-default config should I check?  the one in sites-enables or sites-available?
[18:33] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Login as that www-data user and see if youu can traverse to that directory.
[18:33] <VolUTFan> lordie, you mean to log out of the x in kubuntu and log back in as www-data in the terminal?
[18:34] <lordievader> VolUTFan: No, "sudo su www-data"
[18:34] <VolUTFan> ok, let me check
[18:34] <VolUTFan> thanks for clarification
[18:35] <VolUTFan> it said that this account is currently not available
[18:36] <rberg_> try "sudo su -s /bin/bash www-data"
[18:36] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Hmm, I believe I never changed anything, but use rberg_'s command.
[18:37] <rberg_> www-data has its shell set to "/usr/sbin/nologin"
[18:38] <VolUTFan> ok, under my "own" user account in the terminal I can browse through the simlink into the physical directory, however using rbergs command I was able to switch to the www-data user prompt and I get bash: cd: ubuntu: Permission denied
[18:39] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Right, go back to / and see where the trouble starts.
[18:39] <VolUTFan> you mean browse all the way from root?
[18:39] <lordievader> VolUTFan: From /, yes. Not from /root.
[18:41] <VolUTFan> in this case I am ok up to the point of /var/www/html/archive.canonical.com  but then I can browse to the ubuntu simlink into the physical directory
[18:41] <VolUTFan> that is when I get permission denied
[18:41] <VolUTFan> can't browse the ubuntu simlink *** not can ***
[18:42] <cnobile> Leonard Nimoy 1931-2015 http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skuhq6
[18:42] <genii> A pastebin of ls -l   from there might be helpful
[18:42] <VolUTFan> was you talking to me genii?
[18:42] <genii> Yes.
[18:43] <VolUTFan> ok, standby 1 and let me grab that.
[18:43] <lordievader> VolUTFan: I meant to the path to which the symlink points.
[18:43] <VolUTFan> oh, lordie, your asking if I can browse directly to the physical path that the simlink points?
[18:44] <lordievader> VolUTFan: As www-data, yes.
[18:45] <VolUTFan> the answer is no sir..  I sure can't.  I can browse to /media/mustang, but it can't get into my external usb drive which is where the physical data path is located
[18:46] <VolUTFan> drwxr-x---+  5 root root 4.0K Feb 26 19:25 mustang  this is the ls -lach on the directory /media/mustang for your reference lordie
[18:46] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Precisely, fix that and you probably fix your entire problem.
[18:46] <VolUTFan> so sudo chmod 777 /media/mustang?
[18:46] <genii> No
[18:46] <lordievader> VolUTFan: chmod 771
[18:47] <VolUTFan> ok, let me try
[18:47] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Never do 777.
[18:47] <lordievader> oh wait, it should be 751.
[18:47] <VolUTFan> logged in as www-data, its asking for a sudo password
[18:48] <lordievader> VolUTFan: www-data isn't and shoudln't be in the sudoers group. Run the "sudo chmod" from your own user.
[18:50] <VolUTFan> ok, I switched back to my user, run sudo chmod 751 mustang/ and then switched back to the "sudo su -s /bin/bash www-data" to browse the physical path again.  This time I could get into /media/mustang, but not below it
[18:51] <VolUTFan> is there a recursive switch maybe that could carry the permissions all the way through the directory structure?
[18:51] <lordievader> VolUTFan: There is, but you don't want to use it.
[18:52] <VolUTFan> hmm, any other ideas?
[18:52] <VolUTFan> lol
[18:52] <lordievader> Because the last 1 in 751 gives anyone access to peruse your directories. They may not read anything, but do get to see metadata.
[18:52] <VolUTFan> thats much better than I could come up with since I am a noob at apache
[18:52] <VolUTFan> ok, let me try restarting apache2 service and hitting the webpage
[18:53] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Just continue the same way, see if you can access the next folder. If not, set the execute bit for other.
[18:54] <VolUTFan> this is what I have now
[18:54] <VolUTFan> drwxr-x--x+  5 root root 4.0K Feb 27 13:46 mustang
[19:00] <VolUTFan> lordie, wouldn't permissions 0751 set the execute bit for other?
[19:01] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Yes, for that folder/file.
[19:02] <VolUTFan> ok, I think we may be onto something here, now I can access the directory from the webpage
[19:02] <VolUTFan> let me try simlinking another directory
[19:02] <VolUTFan> 1 sec
[19:09] <VolUTFan> ok lordie, I tried adding another simlink for another repo, but running into the permissions denied again on /media/mustang
[19:10] <VolUTFan> I went back into www-data prompt and couldn't get past it
[19:10] <VolUTFan> I swtiched back to user and chmod 751 /media/mustang, and still permissions denied on www-data
[19:12] <lordievader> VolUTFan: That likely makes sense.
[19:12] <lordievader> VolUTFan: To what dir is the symlink pointing?
[19:13] <OerHeks> What filesystem is on that /media/mustang ?
[19:16] <VolUTFan> Lordie, its pointing to /media/mustang/Mirror_Repo/UbuntuRepos/mirror/linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu.  OerHeks...  its a USB drive of which I have formatted to ext4
[19:16] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Right, does www-data have read/traverse rights anywhere after /media/mustang?
[19:18] <VolUTFan> its a good question, how can I check?
[19:18] <VolUTFan> I figured at the start of this that its something with permissions
[19:19] <lordievader> VolUTFan: You should know, you've done it some 10 minutes ago ;)
[19:20] <VolUTFan> well, I know that I set the 751 permissions on the mustang directory, but from what I understood it would set the permissions on that folder, but not carry down?
[19:21] <lordievader> VolUTFan: So you know how to set permissions, what shows permissions?
[19:21] <VolUTFan> ls -lach?
[19:23] <lordievader> VolUTFan: ls -l already shows them, but yes ;)
[19:23] <VolUTFan> one sec lordie
[19:24] <lordievader> VolUTFan: So now you can start checking, 'does user www-data have access here' ;)
[19:24] <VolUTFan> you mean switch to www-data user and run ls -lach?
[19:28] <lordievader> VolUTFan: No, the output of ls -l is the same for each user.
[19:28] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Sorry, need to go. Good luck ;)
[19:28] <VolUTFan> thanks lordie
[20:24] <VolUTFan> what is the ultra quick way to recurse a directory structure to remove a specific user from permissions on all folders and files
[20:34] <rberg_> VolUTFan: I would start with a 'find' command that matches the files you are after then add a -exec that does what you want to those files.. be careful.
[20:38] <VolUTFan> rberg, the thing is, during the course of me trying to get apache to follow these simlinks, I added www-data to every folder in my directory structure and I want to remove it
[20:38] <VolUTFan> I know what path the user is added to
[20:39] <rberg_> did you change the user or group or both?
[20:48] <VolUTFan> i have the user:group set to mustang:mustang  however there was an extra user that was manually added www-data in dolphin to the directory structure.  I am just trying to figure out how to get that user out of the permissions
[21:00] <freeroute> hi, it seems Ubuntu netinstall has some GPG issues - http://imgur.com/59id2FO - admittedly I didn't import the sur5r key yet, but what's that other one? Is it safe if I upgrade?
[21:05] <KDDA> hi, is the a chat for Kubuntu 15.04?
[21:35] <xjjk> hello
[21:35] <xjjk> None of the power management settings (auto dim screen, auto turn off screen, auto suspend, etc) are working on my laptop
[21:36] <xjjk> the battery monitor applet does appear to be configured correctly, though
[21:36] <xjjk> what's the best way to diagnose this? I'm on Kubuntu 14.10 on KDE4
[21:44] <VolUTFan> rberg, I will take a snapshot and paste it
[21:47] <VolUTFan> http://picpaste.com/nameduser-v5SXJrUM.png
[21:48] <VolUTFan> this named user is what I am trying to remove from every directory and file in the /media/mustang/Ubuntu_Repos/mirror path
[21:49] <rberg_> wow I dont even know what that is
[21:49] <rberg_> if you do a 'ls -l' on one of those file who is it owned as?
[21:50] <Pici> likely www-data
[21:50] <VolUTFan> basically what I did last night, was go into dolphin, into that screen you see, and add the www-data user, then push the permissions down
[21:50] <VolUTFan> all of the files and folders are mustang:mustang.  I am just trying to get rid of the "extra" named user www-data
[21:54] <rberg_> well I am learning some new stuff here.. I did that to a file on my system and it looks like "getfacl" will tell you the other user perms on a file
[21:55] <rberg_> so what dolphin is setting are called ACL's
[21:58] <VolUTFan> here is what I get with the getfacl
[21:58] <VolUTFan> http://pastebin.com/u2wRhbcq
[22:00] <VolUTFan> its just a subdirectory I picked at random, but its like that in the entire directory structure.  I tried reversing it the same way I created it, and it simply won't do anything.  it just sits here and spins lol
[22:00] <rberg_> so I am not sure yet if you should run "setfacl -x u:www-data $file" to remove www-data or if you should run "setfacl -b" to clear all ACL's anyone here have a option on that?
[22:00] <Pici> I was going to suggest to use setfacl -bR  on the parent directory.
[22:02] <rberg_> I feel like "setfacl -x u:www-data $file" is less risky.. if any files are suppose to have ACL set
[22:02] <VolUTFan> Pici, if I do that setfacl -bR on the parent, are you suggesting that it will remove the www-data server on all of the recursive directories down the tree?
[22:02] <rberg_> with a R in there for recursive
[22:02] <rberg_> yeah it will.. but it will also remove all ACL controlls
[22:02] <Pici> VolUTFan: It should... but if you feel like there might be other acls set on those, then rberg_'s suggestion will work too.
[22:03] <VolUTFan> let me try
[22:03] <VolUTFan> one sec
[22:06] <VolUTFan> the setfacl -x u:www-data didn't seem to do much, so I fell back to setfacl -bR.  According to man, the b does not remove user/owner rights, so I tried that.  its working, so lets see what happens
[22:08] <VolUTFan> I think that worked!!!
[22:08] <VolUTFan> it looks like it cleared the named user and mask
[22:10] <VolUTFan> it sure the hell did!!!!!!  Woah..  that is amazing..  Pici, you hit the nail on the head on that one
[22:10] <Pici> huzzah, thank rberg_ too :)
[22:10] <VolUTFan> that was like hitting a bulls eye from 3 miles away
[22:10] <VolUTFan> oh yea, rburg and lordie have been lifesavers
[22:10] <VolUTFan> I am going to have to research those 2 commands, getfacl and setfacl
[22:11] <VolUTFan> I don't need to get granular with this little project I am working on, but it would be nice to know how to do it in the future
[22:12] <Pici> I've never really had a need to set ACLs, and I run a bunch of Linux servers.
[22:13] <VolUTFan> well for the most part, I would imagine, if you needed to set an ACL, you would most likely be working in a secure vault where classified projects are run out of, where you would need to limit eyes
[22:13] <VolUTFan> or in a situation where your vlan access for users might me on the same vlan, but where they shouldn't have access to the directories
[22:18] <VolUTFan> Again, Pici rberg and lordie, I really really appreciate the help
[22:23] <rberg_> np VolUTFan.. I learned something new today so thats cool
[22:59] <VolUTFan> I have an oddball question
[22:59] <ikonia> if it's to do with kubuntu, it's welcome here
[22:59] <VolUTFan> must I have the deb-src lines in the sources.list file?
[23:00] <VolUTFan> and specifically what are they used for
[23:02] <ikonia> VolUTFan: pulling source packages
[23:02] <VolUTFan> ok, for what specific purpose?  so I can custom build applications on kubuntu?  or does the deb installers need those source packages
[23:03] <ikonia> VolUTFan: some people may want the source packages
[23:03] <ikonia> many reasons
[23:03] <VolUTFan> in other words, if i do sudo apt-get install packagename does it install it from deb or deb-srv
[23:03] <VolUTFan> src I mean
[23:04] <VolUTFan> ok, so I don't really need the deb-src lines, if I don't specifically want the source code of the packages for building
[23:04] <ikonia> VolUTFan: installs pre-compiled binary deb packages
[23:28] <VolUTFan> has anyone here ever used apt-mirror to mirror a local repo?  I was doing some mods to my sources.list file to point to my 127.0.0.1 and it looks like some of the parts are still trying to reaach out to the remote servers
[23:28] <VolUTFan> I can do a printout on paste if needed
[23:33] <valorie> !mirror
[23:33] <valorie> pfff
[23:34] <valorie> !info apt-mirror
[23:34] <valorie> fine, give us no info
[23:34] <valorie> VolUTFan: have you tried man apt-mirror ?
[23:35] <valorie> might have some switches you can fiddle with
[23:35] <VolUTFan> im here, sorry was doing a paste output for whoever could look at it
[23:36] <VolUTFan> http://pastebin.com/nRSthLze  Here is what my sources.list looks like along with the output of the sudo apt-get update
[23:38] <VolUTFan> the problem overall isn't with apt-mirror I don't believe, but rather how apt-get update looks at the repos.  I have already mirrored the repos to the local drive and setup with apache2
[23:38] <VolUTFan> I had a bit of problems earlier that rberg lordie and Pici helped me resolve
[23:39] <valorie> yes, I just read up
[23:39] <valorie> good detective work there
[23:40] <VolUTFan> thanks, what I am trying to figure out.  It still looks like the apt-get update is somehow still reaching out to the remote servers (in some cases) and not always at the 127.0.0.1
[23:40] <VolUTFan> can you see what I am talking about in the output of apt-get update
[23:40] <valorie> I'm afraid I don't have any insight
[23:41] <VolUTFan> I can tell you this much.  When I disconnect my network connection, the apt-get update freaks out and errors
[23:41] <VolUTFan> even though I can still see the webpage at 127.0.0.1 and browse the site
[23:44] <valorie> VolUTFan: I know people successfully do this for all kinds of reasons, so I assume some googling will bring insight
[23:46] <VolUTFan> ive googled a lot of things, but the problem is, I don't know what to ask google about this.  I have spent hours reading about apt-mirror at this point, and have a good grip on that aspect so far, but the apt-get update looking at remote servers, when I have the sources.list file pointing at the localhost is confusing.
[23:46] <VolUTFan> I wish I knew what to look for
[23:49] <VolUTFan> oh wait..  I think I just had an Epiphany
[23:49] <VolUTFan> one sec valorie
[23:49] <valorie> http://www.tecmint.com/setup-local-repositories-in-ubuntu/ will help?
[23:51] <valorie> I googled for how to set up offline ubuntu repository using apt-mirror
[23:53] <VolUTFan> valorie, thats good intel.  I will read that over
[23:54] <VolUTFan> I need to take a break.  my eyes are crossing lol
[23:55]  * valorie passes around the coffeepot
[23:59] <genii> Yay, caffeine!
[23:59]  * genii sips