[09:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:45] <Daekdroom> !daily
[12:47] <BluesKaj> !beta
[12:48] <Daekdroom> BluesKaj, yes, but I have to reinstall, because the upgrade from 14.10 never completed due to an error.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Daekdroom, I assi=ume the daily and the beta are the same image
[12:49] <Daekdroom> (although apt informs I'm up to date)
[12:49] <Daekdroom> BluesKaj, there is no beta image for Ubuntu, but only for the flavours.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Daekdroom, yes there's a dependency problem in plasma if you're upgrading from kubuntu 14.10 to 15.04
[12:50] <Daekdroom> Hm. That's not it. I don't even have plasma installed.
[12:50] <Daekdroom> It's always best to have a fresh install for a new ubuntu version, anyway.
[12:51] <BluesKaj> Daekdroom, no doubt , but it is odd that ubuntu doesn't upgrade cleanly
[12:52] <Daekdroom> Yes, and I did purge my PPAs beforehand...
[12:56] <BluesKaj> unless it has to do with mir and systemd etc etc
[16:42] <k1l_> seems like something today broke python. my indicator plugins like radiotray or sshplus.py dont work anymore
[17:29] <a1fa> hi guys. anybody notice any squirliness with Unity Term and alt key?
[17:30] <a1fa> also with 15.04, under propriatery drivers, there is an option for intel microcode driver for an unknown device
[17:30] <a1fa> what's that about?
[17:30] <k1l_> yep. cant use irssi because terminal is fetching the alt key for the menu
[17:31] <a1fa> same here
[17:31] <a1fa> having to resort to /w commands
[17:31] <k1l_> have that intel prop. thingy too but didnt test it
[17:31] <a1fa> that was my other question
[17:31] <k1l_> but i am afk now :/
[17:32] <a1fa> what cpu you got?
[17:32] <k1l_> thinkpad x230i with i3
[17:32] <a1fa> more kernel blobs
[17:32] <a1fa> thats all we need
[17:32] <a1fa> k1l_: how is your unity?
[17:32] <a1fa> when i try to resize windows it just lags like crazy
[17:33] <a1fa> but this was also present in 14.10
[17:33] <a1fa> fglrx driver
[17:37] <TheNumb> a1fa: blobs, lol.
[17:37] <TheNumb> a1fa: you do realize that the cpu microcode is loaded by your firmware, right?
[17:37] <a1fa> no
[17:37] <a1fa> lol
[17:37] <TheNumb> Also, it can be loaded when booting the kernel.
[17:38] <TheNumb> updated microsode that is.
[17:38] <TheNumb> microcode*
[17:38] <TheNumb> damn typos
[17:38] <a1fa> TheNumb: ok, so this is just a binary update then?
[17:38] <TheNumb> You most likely don't need it.
[17:38] <TheNumb> You can either install it or ignore it.
[17:39] <a1fa> ..but what does it do? enable or disable cpu features?
[17:39] <TheNumb> Unless you have a haswell cpu. I think those had a bug.
[17:39] <a1fa> i do have a haswell.. e3-1240v3
[17:41] <TheNumb> a1fa: there's a chance that updated microcode is already provided by your firmware :)
[17:42] <TheNumb> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/199733
[17:42] <TheNumb> That's the bug I'm referring to.
[17:42] <a1fa> k thanks
[17:44] <a1fa> TheNumb: now if i could only fix this awful lag ;(
[17:44] <TheNumb> a1fa: lag?
[17:44] <a1fa> if i pickup a window and move it around, it moves lag free
[17:45] <a1fa> however, resizing a window, just does not work right
[17:45] <a1fa> but this is not related to vivid
[17:45] <a1fa> it was also present in 14.10
[17:45] <a1fa> fglrx or gallium
[17:45] <a1fa> both act the same
[17:45] <TheNumb> No issues here.
[17:45] <TheNumb> :(
[17:45] <a1fa> what gpu?
[17:45] <TheNumb> radeon 7730m
[17:46] <a1fa> ok so open a file manager, and grab the bottom corner
[17:46] <a1fa> and try to resize it
[17:46] <TheNumb> werkz
[17:46] <a1fa> mine works, but clips
[17:46] <a1fa> very bad
[17:46] <TheNumb> have you tried other window managers?
[17:46] <a1fa> just fetched xfce
[17:46] <a1fa> brb, going to try it
[17:47] <a1fa> ubuntu mirrors are so slow
[17:47] <a1fa> brb
[17:47] <TheNumb> mine is fast
[17:47] <TheNumb> :<
[17:50] <a1fa> looks like only Unity is affected
[17:50] <a1fa> works fine in XFCE
[17:50] <a1fa> except xfce has a nasty scroll bug.. trying to find the edge where to scroll is a precision manouver
[17:51] <TheNumb> a1fa: now try kde ;p
[17:51] <a1fa> ;)
[17:51] <a1fa> are you sporting Unity, TheNumb ?
[17:53] <TheNumb> Sometime ;-)
[17:53] <TheNumb> Sometimes*
[17:53] <a1fa> hehe would you try resize in Unity :(
[17:53] <TheNumb> Anxiously waiting for unity 8 ;p
[17:55] <a1fa> at least xfce works almost right
[17:55] <a1fa> i was going to settle with xfce anyway
[17:55] <a1fa> trying to keep open minded with unity, but its a nogo
[17:56] <TheNumb> I like it.
[17:56] <a1fa> k1l_: alt works fine with Term in XFCE
[17:56] <TheNumb> But compiz...
[17:56] <TheNumb> It's not as stable as I would've liked.
[17:56] <a1fa> what font/size does Unity term use
[17:56] <TheNumb> probably ubuntu mono
[17:56] <TheNumb> and size... 11?
[17:59] <a1fa> now to get L4D2 working
[17:59] <a1fa> TheNumb: do you Steam?
[17:59] <TheNumb> yup
[17:59] <a1fa> l4d2 working?
[17:59] <TheNumb> no idea
[17:59] <TheNumb> cs:go works
[17:59] <TheNumb> ;p
[18:00] <a1fa> cant get l4d2 to work
[18:00] <a1fa> it just hangs "loading..."
[18:00] <a1fa> well it just loaded
[18:00] <a1fa> interesting right before i killed it
[18:01] <TheNumb> amd's drivers are so buggy
[18:01] <TheNumb> I won't be buying a laptop with radeon next time.
[18:02] <a1fa> i should have bought gtx 970
[18:06] <a1fa> TheNumb: is multicore rendering an option in CS:Go
[18:08] <a1fa> soo much tearing.. uh,,.. 250fps dipping down to 100fps and tearin the screen
[18:23] <a1fa> TheNumb: what kind of fps are you seeing with CS:GO?
[19:15] <Daekdroom> Is Bash completion broke for anyone else using Kubuntu?
[19:16] <TheNumb> Daekdroom: make sure that bash-completion is installed.
[19:18] <Daekdroom> TheNumb: it is, but it isn't working
[19:18] <TheNumb> Daekdroom: try "source /etc/profile"
[19:19] <Daekdroom> TheNumb: Hah. It works now. Thank you.
[19:19] <Daekdroom> Shouldn't it work by default?
[19:19] <TheNumb> It should.
[19:19] <Daekdroom> Hm. I'll check if it's been reported.
[19:19] <TheNumb> For some reason bash is not sourcing the file.
[19:21] <labsin> TheNumb, Did you make changes to .bashrc?
[19:21] <TheNumb> labsin: ask Daekdroom
[19:21] <labsin> sorry
[19:21] <labsin> Daekdroom, ?
[19:23] <labsin> The default one's are in /etc/skel
[19:23] <Daekdroom> I don't remember making any changes to .bashrc
[19:23] <labsin> you could copy .bashrc and .profile to ~/
[19:23] <Daekdroom> Let me check.
[19:25] <Daekdroom> Hm. They were different indeed, although I don't know why. I copied the default.
[19:25] <Daekdroom> So it must've been on my end. I can't find a launchpad bug for this.
[19:26] <TheNumb> Daekdroom: how long ago did you install the system?
[19:26] <TheNumb> Maybe there was an update in the meantime.
[19:26] <Daekdroom> This /home is old.
[19:26] <TheNumb> ic
[19:26] <Daekdroom> The Kubuntu install is new.
[19:27] <labsin> btw, normally the completion is set from /etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh
[19:27] <labsin> (I think)
[19:28] <TheNumb> right
[19:28] <labsin> and this is then launched from /etc/profile
[19:28] <TheNumb> everything in /etc/profile.d gets sourced by the shell.
[20:14] <darthkaos> sup, testing out the ubuntu mate 15.04 beta on VMWare.  Really liking it so far.
[23:06] <mrqtros_> Hi all
[23:07] <mrqtros_> Can someone tell me how can I upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04?