[01:46] <flip> hey, my audio was showing as dummy driver and i uninstalled alsa and reinstalled then restarted alsa and nothing.  THis is the second time it has happened.  any idea what to do? please?
[01:46] <holstein> sure
[01:46] <holstein> i mean, my first step would be, to identify if the hardware is working
[01:46] <holstein> i use, either, the promised, supported operating system, likely windows, or a known-good linux live iso
[01:47] <holstein> *if* i surmise that my hardware is functioning proerly, id move on to simple tests to see that the hardware is present, and alsa is "seeing" it
[01:48] <holstein> i would, look in my bios, see that its enabled.. i would then, either from my installed OS, and/or a live iso, run lspci and aplay -l and arecord -l
[01:48] <holstein> lspci can show it, and you still can *not* get audio from the device
[01:49] <holstein> lspci just means the os is seeing it, not alsa using it with a driver and all that is needed
[01:49] <holstein> !audio
[01:49] <holstein> all of that is outlined there ^
[01:49] <holstein> then, if i still had issues with my system installed, i wouldnt start removing and reinstalling and sudo doing things first
[01:50] <holstein> you can just break, or make things works
[01:50] <holstein> worse*
[01:50] <holstein> i would, first, simply "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to search for and apply all upgrades
[01:51] <holstein> i would then, reboot, if there is a kernel upgrade, and apply that.. test.. i would look into *if* this is something that used to work, or was recently "broken" by a kernel upgrade.. regardless, i would note the kernel that *is* supporting it, if i find one that is providing support
[01:52] <holstein> *then*, i would simply try as another user, as well.. see that its not just my users config causing the issue
[01:52] <holstein> anyways, theres your wall-o-text, flip
[01:53] <flip> sorry, thanks man
[01:53] <flip> i really appreciate it. im in multiple chats since i didnt have good luck at first
[01:54] <holstein> well, you may have specificaly broken soemthing worse with a sudo command.. or, have broken hardware
[01:54] <holstein> i wouldnt waste time til you see that you have hardware that isnt broken..
[01:54] <holstein> you can sudo mess with whatever you like for days in a row, and if the card is broken, its broken..
[02:08] <flip> apparently lscpi brought up if the card was connected
[02:15] <holstein> lol
[02:16] <holstein> yeah, plugging the device in is important ;)
[19:25] <mhall119> hey guys, is this loco team planning on attending SELF?
[19:26] <holstein> mhall119: i would say, not as a team, for sure
[19:26] <holstein> i usually cant do self
[19:26] <holstein> havent been able to :/
[19:26] <mhall119> is there anyone active in the SC team? their IRC is pretty much empty
[19:26] <holstein> i think its a little worse than this one, for sure
[19:27] <holstein> mhall119: they may have a list..
[19:27] <mhall119> yeah, I'll look them up on loco.u.c
[19:27] <holstein> you never know who just doenst do IRC, and is still on the list
[19:27] <holstein> not able to come to meetings, or whatever
[19:27] <holstein> i plan on picking this one back up ASAP
[19:28] <holstein> im building a house, and other things that i cant thin out anymore right now
[19:28] <mhall119> understandable
[19:29] <mhall119> holstein: are you an Ubuntu Member?
[19:29] <mhall119> ah, I see that you are
[19:30] <mhall119> holstein: if you have the time to attend, and it's just a question of money, you can request sponsorshop to go through this: http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/funding/
[19:30] <mhall119> we've used that to send Ubuntu Members to many conferences around the world
[19:32] <holstein> mhall119: oh, the $$ is fine
[19:32] <holstein> mhall119: i just work on those times..
[19:32] <mhall119> ah, unfortunately we don't have a pool of extra time to hand out :)
[19:33] <holstein> im a musician, and what works for "normal" folks usually is but buisness hours :)
[19:33] <holstein> mhall119: if you find that pool, please! let me know..
[19:33] <mhall119> heh, definitely
[19:33] <holstein> mhall119: im thinking fall for getting this team back on the rails
[19:34] <mhall119> holstein: that fund is also available to use for loco team events, if you want to do a release party or meetup with food or drinks provided
[23:00] <holstein> mhall119: maybe something to help get it off the ground, in the fall
[23:00] <holstein> after schools start back.. etc