[04:58] <Kilos> cremora minora
[04:58] <Kilos> my fly you so early?
[05:45] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[05:46] <mazal> More oom
[05:59] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry  
[06:01] <Jacques_Stry> Morning all
[06:23] <Kilos> hi barrydk  
[06:25] <barrydk> More Kilos and every one
[06:26] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd  
[06:26] <andrewlsd> Môre julle almal
[06:26] <andrewlsd> I'll be lurking.
[06:27] <Kilos> fine
[06:46] <Padroni> Morning.
[06:46] <Kilos> hi Padroni  
[06:46] <Padroni> hi
[06:51]  * Kilos shoots inetpro
[06:55] <Padroni> I am starting to take a professional disliking in Google
[06:55] <Padroni> Or rather, their inability to succesfully identify a phishing site.
[06:55] <jacques_> Why?
[06:55] <jacques_> Oh
[07:00] <Kilos> Maaz  nickometer Jacques_Stry  
[07:00] <Maaz> Kilos: Jacques_Stry is 14.4% lame
[07:00] <Kilos> Maaz  nickometer Jacques_
[07:00] <Maaz> Kilos: Jacques_ is 0.0% lame
[07:00] <Jacques_Stry> Lol
[07:01] <Kilos> hehe
[07:01] <Jacques_Stry> How does meter work
[07:01] <Kilos> it doesnt like to see text with other characters in between
[07:01] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[07:03] <Kilos> Maaz  nickometer Jacques_Stry-
[07:03] <Maaz> Kilos: Jacques_Stry- is 14.4% lame
[07:11] <andrewlsd> Maaz nickometer andrewlsd
[07:11] <Maaz> andrewlsd: andrewlsd is 0.0% lame
[07:11] <andrewlsd> maaz nickometer maaz
[07:11] <Maaz> andrewlsd: maaz is 0.0% lame
[07:11] <andrewlsd> maaz nickometer nick
[07:11] <Maaz> andrewlsd: nick is 0.0% lame
[07:11] <Kilos> haha
[07:11] <andrewlsd> I don't think Maaz thinks anything is lame. That dictionary needs to be updated.
[07:12] <Kilos> Maaz  nickometer andrew-lsd  
[07:12] <Maaz> Kilos: andrew-lsd is 14.4% lame
[07:13] <Kilos> someone was here a while ago that was 80% lame
[07:23] <andrewlsd> Maaz nickometer i-am-awesome
[07:23] <Maaz> andrewlsd: i-am-awesome is 25.6% lame
[07:23] <Kilos> lol
[07:33] <Kilos> amanicknacks la la la laa la
[07:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo lo
[07:35]  * niknaks sees images of that dude in the orange and yellow checked outfit with the huge pointy hat
[07:38] <Kilos> hehe
[07:39]  * andrewlsd lurks again
[07:50] <Kilos> maas seen smile
[07:50] <Kilos> ai!
[07:50] <Kilos> Maaz  seen smile
[07:50] <Maaz> Kilos: smile was last seen 5 days, 17 hours, 47 minutes and 46 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-02-21 06:02:36 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-02-21 11:21:16 PST
[08:02] <Kilos> morning nlsthzn  
[08:16] <Kilos> hi mopkop  
[08:16] <mopkop> Good Morning! Just popping in to say hello!
[08:17] <Kilos> hello to you too have a good day
[08:17] <Jacques_Stry> :)
[08:23] <Padroni> hi mopkop
[08:23] <inetpro> Kilos: why you kill me?
[08:23] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:23]  * Padroni witnessed this unprovoked attack on inetpro
[08:24] <inetpro> ai!
[08:25]  * inetpro fortunately has many lives 
[08:25] <mopkop> Hello Padroni!
[08:25] <Kilos> lol
[08:25] <mopkop> and inetpro
[08:26]  * Jacques_Stry imagines inetpro having cat ears - 9 lives?
[08:26] <inetpro> hi mopkop
[08:26] <Kilos> unprovoked??
[08:26] <Kilos> grrrr
[08:29] <Kilos> maybe just shooting him off trello can help me a bit
[08:29] <inetpro> Kilos: please fix https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150224
[08:29] <Kilos> lol
[08:30] <inetpro> why did you even modify that?
[08:30] <Kilos> oh my
[08:31]  * Kilos calls Mr. fixit
[08:31] <inetpro> Kilos: you see, /me can still shoot back :-)
[08:31] <Kilos> ya so i see :D
[08:32] <inetpro> you want me to fixit?
[08:32] <Kilos> yes please
[08:32] <Kilos> pretty please
[08:32] <Kilos> and
[08:32] <Kilos> make a new template for us
[08:33] <inetpro> refretch!
[08:33] <Kilos> i give up so long on the wiki thing
[08:33] <Kilos> ?
[08:34] <inetpro> refresh man
[08:34] <inetpro> it's fixed
[08:34] <Kilos> yay well done
[08:34] <Kilos> ty
[08:34]  * inetpro reverted to revision 3 with the click of a button
[08:35] <Kilos> dont talk so much just make a new improved template
[08:35] <inetpro> the power of revision control
[08:36] <Kilos> i will only do basic edits from now on and then not often
[08:36] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[08:36] <Kilos> inetpro  no what
[08:37] <inetpro> 02/27 10:36:20 <Kilos> i will only do basic edits from now on and then not often...
[08:37] <Kilos> that statement is correct
[08:37] <inetpro> no
[08:37] <Kilos> ai!
[08:37]  * Kilos looks for sjambok
[08:38]  * inetpro switches back to invisible
[08:38] <Kilos> swine
[08:43] <Padroni> Well that escelated quickly...
[08:43] <Kilos> lol
[08:44] <Kilos> these peeps that know how to do stuffs so easily and well then try pawn the task off on the greeter bot
[08:44] <Kilos> poor greeter bot
[08:47] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members#preview
[08:47] <Kilos> note greeter bot
[08:48] <nlsthzn> morning all
[08:49] <mopkop> Good Morning!
[08:49] <nlsthzn> like your handle mopkop :)
[08:50] <mopkop> Yea, I really need a haircut :)
[08:50] <Kilos> lol
[08:51] <Kilos> just buy a wahl hair clipper and do it yourself
[08:55] <mopkop> One question. By signing this code of conduct, I do not yet bind myself to any projects, do I?
[08:57] <Kilos> nope
[08:57] <mopkop> :)
[08:57] <nlsthzn> you just say you will abide by the ubuntu code of conduct
[08:57] <Kilos> everything here is done out of the goodness in your heart
[09:02] <Kilos> inetpro  heres one thats close, only minor fixing needed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150324#preview
[09:04] <mopkop> I can't seem to figure out how to generate a PGP key. I'm in Passwords and Keys, I clicked the plus sign and filled in the form, and then - nothing
[09:04] <mopkop> Please help?
[09:07] <Kilos> sjoe thats a heavy job
[09:07] <Kilos> maybe mazal  did a how to
[09:08] <mopkop> There is a How To on Launchpad, but I follow the instructions, but still nothing... https://launchpad.net/+help-registry/openpgp-keys.html#publish
[09:09] <mopkop> Maybe I'm using the wrong program.
[09:10] <Kilos> you do it from terminal i think
[09:10] <Kilos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[09:11] <Kilos> almost everyone struggles with that
[09:11] <mopkop> Thank you! Now I don't feel so bad!
[09:18] <Kilos> in your google searches add with ubuntu
[09:19] <Kilos> then with luck you get ubuntu how tos
[09:31] <Jacques_Stry> I did it in the passwords program but after clicking the plus sine and filling in the form you have to wait a while before the new key is desplayed
[09:31] <Jacques_Stry> displayed*
[09:31] <andrewlsd> ... my biggest issue with signing the TOS, is that I don't used GPG often enough, and have lost my keys.
[09:35] <Kilos> and it only works from one pc
[09:40] <Kilos> hi drussell  hows davy?
[09:40] <Kilos> davey too
[09:50] <Kilos> hi magellanic  
[09:51] <magellanic> ahoy
[09:53] <mopkop> Will it matter if I register a different full name on my PGP key as my Ubuntu-one account?
[09:57] <Kilos> lol
[09:57] <Kilos> i dunno
[09:58] <Kilos> you a multi personality oke
[09:59] <Kilos> why would you want to do that mopkop  ?
[10:00] <mopkop> Nevermind, I made a new one. In the one I did not include my second name.
[10:00] <Kilos> lol
[10:02] <mopkop> It's Signed! Finally!
[10:03] <Kilos> well done
[10:03] <mopkop> Now I feel like I've been though a trail of patients an intelligence in some RPG
[10:03] <mopkop> :)
[10:03] <Kilos> hard work that
 trial of patience and intelligence </suggestion>
[10:06] <Kilos> hahaha it tried everyone else patience when helping me do it
[10:06] <Kilos> wb Padroni  
[10:07] <mopkop> Sorry :(
[10:11] <Padroni>  it really works on my tits when my ISP changes my IP mid-stroke while in a SSH session
[10:12] <Padroni> now I have to go add my new IP to the hosts.allow file for EVERY server in the datacenter 
[10:12] <Padroni> .\/.
[10:12] <Kilos> hehe
[10:13] <Kilos> life on the internet
[10:13] <Padroni> yeah
[10:13] <Padroni> got a nice surprise on my paycheck this month
[10:13] <Padroni> unannounced raise
[10:14] <Padroni> the boss seems to like me for a change
[10:14] <Kilos> nice
[10:14] <Padroni> indeed
[10:15] <Padroni> the wife was so excited she immediately demanded 1/2 of it as pocket money
[10:15] <Kilos> lol
[10:15] <mopkop> lol.
[10:16] <mopkop> Is there any way, other than coding, to contribute to the Ubuntu project?
[10:16] <Kilos> yes
[10:17] <Kilos> somewhere here should be the info https://ubuntu-za.org
[10:17] <mopkop> i'm Sorry, but all coding I know is c# and Web-languages. I'll have a lot of learning to do...
[10:18] <Kilos> dont be sorry just keep learning
[10:18] <Kilos> i cant code at all
[10:23] <Kilos> if anyone can provide some help with drupal please ping Neo31 when he pops in again or leave him a message with maaz
[10:24] <Padroni> what help?
[10:24] <Padroni> Stress test to see where it breaks?
[10:24] <Padroni> coz that's all I can help with
[10:24] <Kilos> i dunno he just asked if i know anyone that can do drupal
[10:24] <Padroni> I'd rather use Wordpress
[10:25] <Padroni> but that is a matter of personal preference
[10:25] <Padroni> as always
[10:25] <Kilos> maybe he has some drupal stuff to fix
[10:25] <Padroni> tell hiim to contact me so I can see where I can help
[10:25] <Kilos> didnt you see him ask on #ubuntu-africa
[10:25] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel
[10:26] <Padroni> nope
[10:26] <Padroni> met wat?
[10:27] <Kilos> als
[10:27] <Kilos> i told the bot there to tell him to ping you when he gets back
[10:27] <Padroni> oh
[10:28] <Kilos> wb mopkop  
[10:28] <mopkop> Soor, internet dopped :(
[10:28] <mopkop> dropped
[10:28] <Kilos> lol
[10:38] <Kilos> mopkop  you see what to do there?
[10:39] <Kilos> you are already here so join the mailing list too
[10:39] <mopkop> Yes, that's the next step. Just joined Trello :)
[10:39] <Kilos> cool
[10:40] <Kilos> whats your trello username?
[10:40] <mopkop> prysdieheer@gmail.com
[10:41] <Kilos> https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco
[10:42] <Kilos> hmm... 
[10:42] <Kilos> mailto:prysdieheer@gmail.com? We don’t know that person. Add a name and click “Send” and we’ll add a virtual member and send them an invite email. They'll automatically receive access to the board once they sign up and confirm their email address.
[10:43] <mopkop> Try ashtonvanniekerk
[10:43] <mopkop> @ashtonvanniekerk 
[10:45] <magellanic> Padroni: https://mosh.mit.edu/ (if you're keen to try it)
[10:47] <andrewlsd> magellanic, Padroni: mosh #ftw. 
[10:47] <Kilos> ill let the pro do that mopkop  
[10:48] <andrewlsd> I usually alias it to 'mosh -a'
[10:48] <andrewlsd> so that it always does local echo.
[10:49] <magellanic> I haven't actually used it, looked interesting though
[10:51] <Padroni> Thanx magellanic
[10:51] <Padroni> I will have to do a lot of testing on that before switching though
[10:51] <Padroni> We do not trust that which we do not control.
[10:52] <Padroni> I can't run the risk of having my whole datacenter exposed due to vulnerabilities in a 3rd party SSH tool
[10:52] <Jacques_Stry> So i finished my wallpaper render - Not happy at all, starting over >.< http://s29.postimg.org/e20312rzb/Ubuntu_za.jpg
[10:52] <Padroni> Jacques_Stry:  that looks nice
[10:53] <Padroni> Can I get that logo from you, incase I wanna make my own wallpaper?
[10:53] <Jacques_Stry> just not working for me...
[10:53] <Padroni> if you have it as a transparent PNG, that would be awesome...
[10:53] <Jacques_Stry> I'll make you one - it's a 3d render
[10:54] <Padroni> you lost me at "I'll make you one"
[10:54] <Padroni> thanx mate
[10:54] <Jacques_Stry> np
[10:55] <Jacques_Stry> do you want it with the shadows or flat?
[10:55] <Padroni> both?
[10:55] <Jacques_Stry> k
[10:55] <Padroni> Also, if I could have long, flowing hair, that would be great.
[10:56] <Padroni> Makes me look more important.
[10:56] <Jacques_Stry> LOL
[10:56] <Padroni> and make my eyes a darker blue
[10:56] <Padroni> hehe
[11:15] <magellanic> Padroni: but you already have that with openssl ;) :p
[11:16] <Padroni> we run a tight VPN at work
[11:16] <Padroni> So we are good
[11:22] <Padroni>  I love being able to speak to ubuntu users from other parts of africa
[11:23] <Padroni>  It's good to know the whole damn CONTINENT is trying to figure out how to exit VIM, not just me...
[11:23] <magellanic> +1
[11:23] <magellanic> I've been a long time vi user
[11:23]  * Padroni made a funnny
[11:24] <magellanic> only because I can't figure out how to exit from it :p
[11:24] <Padroni> haha
[11:24] <Padroni> never gets old, that onoe
[11:24] <Padroni> *one
[11:24] <Padroni> so Jacques_Stry
[11:24] <magellanic> hehe
[11:24] <Padroni> what happened to you?
[11:24] <Jacques_Stry> Me?
[11:24] <Padroni> No son, the other Jacques_Stry ....
[11:24] <Padroni> ;)
[11:25] <Jacques_Stry> Setting up a IPFire server
[11:26] <Jacques_Stry> and checking out free avast for business
[11:27] <Jacques_Stry> I manage allot of win computers so unfortunately antivirus is still a reality for me
[11:28] <Padroni> You should write a how-to for that
[11:28] <Jacques_Stry> IPFire?
[11:28] <Padroni> yes
[11:28] <Padroni> in fact - you can put the how-to on my blog
[11:29] <Jacques_Stry> IPFire is awesome - actually I should
[11:29] <Jacques_Stry> Been using it for 2 years now and has made my life so much easier
[11:31] <Padroni> we must speak about this
[11:31] <Padroni> maybe I will just start a new blog for these type of how-to's?
[11:31] <Jacques_Stry> But the documentation is very incomplete some times - so your left guessing
[11:31] <Padroni> I should have a IT related domain lying around somewhere
[11:32] <Padroni> ?
[11:33] <Jacques_Stry> I'll start writing the first setup how-to and let you know
[11:34] <Padroni> check yer pm
[11:54] <Jacques_Clone> Went mobile
[11:54] <Jacques_Clone> Finished at work ;)
[11:56]  * andrewlsd thinks IPliquid
[11:57] <Jacques_Clone> Ipliquid?
[12:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> we all do
[12:08] <andrewlsd> :-P
[12:15] <andrewlsd> anyone looked at google "inbox" app?
[12:16] <andrewlsd> ... looks like their intended next version of gmail
[12:17] <magellanic> I used it for a week
[12:17] <magellanic> during the very early days
[12:18] <magellanic> didn't like it, but it has some very useful stuff
[12:18] <magellanic> I will probably try it again ;)
[12:29]  * mazal peeks in
[12:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh look
[12:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> it's beer o'clock
[12:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> b'byeee all
[12:32] <mazal> Bye ThatGraemeGuy
[12:34] <andrewlsd> byeee
[12:54] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos- you can get an ubuntu member cloak now for IRC (you too superfly)
[12:56] <Kilos-> we have them i think nlsthzn  
[12:57] <Kilos> ya
[12:57] <Kilos> now just waiting to see about the membership certificate
[12:58] <nlsthzn> I applied but suspect it for lost in the mail >.<
[12:58] <Kilos> oh do you have to apply?
[12:59] <Kilos> better to get it online then you can print it methinks
[12:59] <nlsthzn> well the one through the post is actually signed by Mark AFAIK :)
[12:59] <nlsthzn> a real signature
[13:00] <Kilos> yes but he can sign them then they can scan and send
[13:00] <Kilos> trusting post aint wise
[13:01] <nlsthzn> then they can just ad a printout of his signature... not the same *wow* effect :p 
[13:01] <nlsthzn> or you could just make your own then I guess
[13:01] <Kilos> lol
[13:02] <Kilos> where is the wow effect if its lost in the post
[13:02] <nlsthzn> the mystery, suspense... besides the cert isn't worth the paper it is printed on :p
[13:14] <Kilos> haha was actually quite funny the first time i went to the loco council, first thing they said was "suppose you are here for your cloak"
[13:14] <Kilos> i said nono im here to discuss something else
[13:15] <Kilos> thats when i wantes #ubuntu-africa to be official
[13:15] <Kilos> wanted
[13:18] <nlsthzn> :)
[13:18] <nlsthzn> lol
[13:20] <Kilos> didnt even know what the cloak was then
[13:20] <Kilos> what a twit
[13:20] <nlsthzn> :p
[14:00] <Padroni> I think I have reached 'counterproductive 'o clock'
[14:00] <Kilos> lol
[14:00] <Kilos> i been there for years
[14:02] <Padroni> meh
[14:02] <Padroni> got one more hacked site to investigate
[14:02] <Padroni> or at least see why it was hacked
[14:02] <Kilos> did you guys ever get magespawn sorted with the hacking of his sites
[14:03] <Padroni> he never came back to me
[14:03] <Padroni> but we did speak about it at lenght at that point
[14:03] <Kilos> maybe he has it done then
[14:03] <Padroni> he was gonna run it past the higher up's at work
[14:03] <Padroni> could be
[14:03] <Kilos> shame he struggled for months
[14:40] <Kilos> hmm... the clone arrived
[14:40] <Kilos> im sure hes lame too
[14:41] <Kilos> oh he left
[14:58] <Kilos> hahaha zergli caught out hey
[14:58] <Kilos> zerlgi too
[15:18] <charl> good afternoon
[15:18] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[15:18]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[15:18] <Kilos> hi charl  
[15:18] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[15:18] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[15:19] <charl> hi Kilos 
[15:22] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[15:22] <Kilos> Maaz  dake
[15:22] <Maaz> Kilos: What?
[15:22] <Kilos> Maaz  danke
[15:22] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[15:22] <charl> Maaz: danke
[15:22] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[15:22] <charl> sehr gut, sehr gut
[15:23]  * charl trinkt den kaffee
[16:51] <nlsthzn> eish, little man has now been sleeping off all his rust and will be waking up in time for the rugby >.< :p
[17:17] <Kilos> haha
[17:18] <Kilos> teach him to watch
[17:30] <nlsthzn> brilliant try for cheetahs :)
[17:31] <Kilos> yip
[17:44] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:44] <nlsthzn> brilliant again
[17:52] <Kilos> uh oh hiding coming
[17:52] <nlsthzn> ugh and this is why I don't even want to bother watching rugby anymroe
[17:52] <nlsthzn> *anymore
[17:52] <Kilos> lol
[17:52] <nlsthzn> I think that was a try
[17:53] <Kilos> no forward pass
[17:54] <nlsthzn> yup
[17:55] <Kilos> sill hope
[17:55] <Kilos> still too
[17:58] <nlsthzn> :)
[18:18] <Kilos> oh wow
[18:18] <nlsthzn> what a try
[18:23] <nlsthzn> how can the opposition number 9 push the number 9 feeding the scrum away from getting the ball the whole time and the ref doesn't do anything?!
[18:24] <Kilos> ?
[18:24] <Kilos> there are so many new rules i get lost
[18:25] <Kilos> he lets them play the ball on the ground too
[18:27] <nlsthzn> bludy refff
[18:28] <nlsthzn> blerry refff
[18:28] <nlsthzn> :p
[18:28] <Kilos> that too ya
[18:42] <inetpro> wb nlsthzn
[18:42] <nlsthzn> thx
[18:42] <inetpro> what's happening with the cheetahs?
[18:42] <nlsthzn> quickly logged into awesome windows manager... logged out quicker
[18:42] <Kilos> 24/22
[18:42] <nlsthzn> cheetahs slightly behind...
[18:43] <nlsthzn> can still make it
[18:43] <nlsthzn> but they scored a few very awesome tries
[18:43] <Kilos> 4 mins of heavy defence ahead of cheetahs
[18:43] <Kilos> 3 mins now
[18:45] <nlsthzn> 1 min to go
[18:45] <nlsthzn> no mistakes :!!11
[18:45] <Kilos> cheetahs ahead now 25/24
[18:46] <inetpro> go cheetahs!
[18:47] <Kilos> yay cheetahs win
[18:47] <nlsthzn> gg
[18:47] <inetpro> \o/
[18:48] <Kilos> on the 4th ill be offline all day. no power
[18:48] <nlsthzn> :(
[18:49]  * nlsthzn will be back too soon I suspect :p
[18:49] <Kilos> 08.00 till 18.00
[18:54] <Kilos> eish man of the match gets a samsung galaxy s5
[19:00] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:01] <inetpro> uh
[19:01] <inetpro> wat nou?
[19:01] <Kilos> ek bietjie seer oompie
[19:01] <Kilos> maar as jy wil chat sal ek bly
[19:01] <inetpro> ai!
[19:01] <inetpro> nee is reg... 
[19:01]  * inetpro moeg
[19:02] <Kilos> ok dankie. lekker slapp
[19:02] <Kilos> slaap ook
[19:02] <Kilos> gaan slaap jy ook man
[20:14] <kulelu88> almal slaap nou??
[20:27] <superfly> not on your life
[20:30] <kulelu88> superfly: what are decent ecommerce options for python for a single-man startup?
[20:31] <superfly> kulelu88: I am afraid I don't know of any. Have you looked at the official Python wiki?
[20:31] <kulelu88> no I haven't yet. 
[20:31] <kulelu88> it's hard to understand the different options
[20:33] <superfly> in general I've found open source e-commerce options lacking
[20:33] <kulelu88> in python or in general?
[20:33] <superfly> a few years ago I looked at Ubercart in Drupal, and that was OK
[20:33] <superfly> in general
[20:35] <kulelu88> My needs are more leaning towards less code-writing but easier customization when I need it