[00:02]  * valorie sips along for realz
[00:37] <Chaser_> Hi, anybody uses kontact (kmail) ? I recently switched to kmail from thunderbird and have many problems. It doesn't apply filters, it takes ages to load the body of the email even if the messages were downloaded for offline use etc. I have to restart once in a while to keep kmail sane.
[00:38] <Chaser_> I want to know if its just me or its the state of kmail ingeneral.
[00:39] <valorie> Chaser_: I hear random complaints like that, but just as many praises
[00:46] <Chaser_> valorie: Yup otherwise I love kontact except for some issues.
[00:48] <soee> Chaser_: i hope soone VDG will propose some more user friendly interface and than Kontact will worth using :)
[00:50]  * valorie goes off to pizza and beer
[01:44] <VolUTFan> valorie, I figured it out
[01:44] <VolUTFan> its working like clockwork right now
[01:58] <VolUTFan> valorie, what my problem was...  I had duplicate entries in the new /etc/apt/sources.list file as compared to /etc/apt/sources.list.d from adding repos by terminal.  I removed the sources.list.d entries and now not having problems with the apt-get update reaching out to the remote servers.  That is the problem I was having
[02:01] <VolUTFan> Also can someone tell me what Ign means in the output here of apt-get update http://pastebin.com/2R58kZX7
[02:01] <VolUTFan> im guessing Ignore, but not sure
[02:04] <valorie> thanks for the info, VolUTFan
[02:07] <VolUTFan> no problem valorie.  Let me tell you... Woah am I suprised.  This thing flyssss now when I do an apt-get update or install.  Its the difference between a snail and a 747 jet
[02:08] <VolUTFan> it reponds like a solid state hard drive vs a 5400 rpm hard disk
[02:08] <valorie> downloading is sloooooow
[02:08]  * valorie was off eating pizza and drinking beer
[02:08] <VolUTFan> well, I have an 8 MB/sec connection on the WAN from my home office, but still...  much faster locally
[02:09] <valorie> i/o is always a bottleneck
[02:09] <VolUTFan> speaking of which... I need a long neck bud light
[02:09] <VolUTFan> :)
[02:10] <VolUTFan> Ive been at this little project for 2 weeks on and off trying to get it working
[02:12] <Axed> I know this Q has been asked before but lookin for a quick answer. I currently have an Ubuntu Unity install and curious what the difference is between installing kubuntu desktop vs a clean install
[02:13] <Axed> I'm typically an openSUSE user so don't know kubuntu/ubuntu differences
[02:24] <valorie> Axed: you should be able to run both if that is what you want
[02:25] <valorie> but you'll have twice the number of apps hanging around unless you uninstall what you don't want
[02:25] <Axed> yeah i dont mind too much
[02:25] <Axed> space is not that much of a premium
[02:25] <Axed> thanks for the reply, much appreciated
[02:26] <Axed> i was curious how different would be from a clean install but i doubt it will be that diff
[02:27] <Axed> anyone testing plasma5.2?
[02:27] <Axed> on a trusty install i guess i should have added
[02:29] <valorie> I don't think it is available for trusty
[02:29] <valorie> during trusty times I used project neon, which has now been axed
[02:30] <Axed> yeah prob best not to try
[02:30] <valorie> it didn't work very well back then
[02:30] <valorie> the next ppa is working fine in 14.10
[02:30] <valorie> can't wait for vivid....
[02:31] <ugly_cat> Can someone help me. My plasmashell keeps crashing.
[02:31] <ugly_cat> https://paste.kde.org/pfi4okawq
[02:31] <ugly_cat> plasma5 with the plasmanext ppa
[02:32] <valorie> support for p5 in #ubuntu+1 I guess
[02:32] <valorie> or better yet, #plasma
[02:32] <valorie> that said, the europeans are mostly sleeping
[02:33] <Axed> speaking of which. its getting later in the evening in Belize too
[02:33] <Axed> gnight
[02:47] <VolUTFan> Hey, is there a terminal or gui app you guys know of that can compare permissions recursively on folders for Kubuntu/Ubuntu
[03:18] <VolUTFan> what is the best screen recording app for Kubuntu and will it record audio
[03:20] <valorie> hmmm
[03:20] <valorie> I think ffmpeg is usually called the winner
[03:20] <valorie> !info ffmpeg
[03:21] <valorie> pfff
[03:21] <VolUTFan> isn't ffmpeg outdated and preceded by another package
[03:21] <VolUTFan> yep, just what I thought
[03:21] <VolUTFan> !info avconv
[03:22] <VolUTFan> crap... lol
[03:22] <valorie> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/simple-screen-recorder-linux
[03:23] <valorie> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntu_Precise_Screencapture
[03:23] <valorie> I just googled your question above, exactly
[03:32] <VolUTFan> i tried recordmydesktop and voko before, and they lagged something fierce.  I wonder if the simple screen recorder has a pause feature..  hmm, will have to check it out.
[03:32] <VolUTFan> thanks valorie
[03:34] <valorie> yw
[07:51] <unnomen> Есть русские?
[11:06] <ovocanario> hi to everyone...
[11:09] <veqz> hi
[11:09] <ovocanario> I am looking for some application for making a kind of a little english course to some friends... i had a look on Muon Discover and i downloaded a bounch of nice apps but i was wondering if there was something else somewhere else...
[11:10] <ovocanario> thanks in advance
[11:11] <veqz> a little english course? Like glossary memorisation and stuff?
[11:12] <ovocanario> yes it would help too
[11:15] <veqz> I've never tried any myself, and I'm currently a bit preoccupied with a broken ksmserver, but it seems that KDE has quite a few language applications available: https://edu.kde.org/applications/language
[11:15] <veqz> maybe some of those will work for you?
[11:20] <ovocanario> thank you veqz!!!
[11:20] <veqz> no problem :)
[11:21] <ovocanario> that seems to be nice... gonna explore!!! ;)
[11:56] <soee> good morning
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:49] <De8dSh0t> Whats up, Gaylords?
[16:03] <donniezazen> system volume and per-app volume are managed separately in Kubuntu. I find it very weird. If I want to change volume then I have to change system volume and then app volume.
[16:03] <donniezazen> Why is it like that?
[16:19] <Guest7625> OL...how does one update 15.04B1...Muon does not appear to work?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> Guest7625, I have it installed here
[16:22] <Guest7625> 1) I'm really not familiar with KDE, 2) Applications>Systems>Update manager(muon) appear to start (shows in panel), then dies.  Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[16:23] <monkeyjuice> update and upgrade in terminal?
[16:24] <Guest7625> sounds good, like I said, I'm not familiar with KDE...command?
[16:24] <monkeyjuice> in terminal type sudo apt-get update
[16:25] <Guest7625> thanks
[16:25] <monkeyjuice> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:25] <Guest7625> should have guessed :)
[17:53] <melray> Hi all
[17:55] <BluesKaj> hi me
[17:55] <BluesKaj> er melray
[17:55] <melray> Hi BluesKaj:
[17:58] <melray> Ok so I have a net mask of 255.255.255.224 which means that the first 3 bits are for the subnet. So there are a total of 8 subnets available. I have not been able to make the connection on why if I add the last 5 remaining bits it does not total 32 only 31
[18:01] <Walex> melray: type: ipcalc 192.168.1.2/255.255.255.224 for an illustration
[18:02] <melray> Walex: K thank you
[19:42] <VolUTFan> hey if I am updating crontab with -e and I am going to add a command that normally needs sudo rights on a terminal, do I need to specify sudo like this example.  sudo rsync -achivv --delete-during --force --progress /home/useraccount /media/useraccount/Mirror_Repo/
[19:52] <Walex> VolUTFan: sounds reasonable
[19:52] <Walex> VolUTFan: note that your 'sudo' rights need  to be with no password.
[20:05] <VolUTFan> well, if the command is being called from within the crontab, how would I know about the password?
[21:27] <me> hello i have a problem
[21:29] <Guest78283> where are the location of system setting items in hard disk
[21:30] <Guest78283> does anybody know
[21:31] <Guest78283> i have an empty "system settings"
[21:41] <Guest78283> anyone here knows kde?
[21:43] <bprompt> Guest78283:    eh?
[21:44] <Guest78283> i thought this is kubuntu support
[21:55] <Guest78283> people just come and go....
[21:55] <VolUTFan> guest, check your private message
[22:02] <bprompt> ?
[23:15] <VolUTFan> lordie, are you around?
[23:16] <VolUTFan> im trying to help a fella out with his 14.10 kde plasma4 and his system settings screen is completely blank.  Also, he has no search capabilities from his kicker menu.  I helped him with sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-full, but no dice.  Also removed the .kde and rebuilt it, but caused problems, so we reverted back to the old .kde.
[23:17] <VolUTFan> anyone have any ideas on this one?
[23:21] <bprompt> VolUTFan:   sounds like a bad install from the getgo, maybe a quick reinstall would do
[23:21] <VolUTFan> it was an upgrade from saucy
[23:21] <VolUTFan> not a clean install
[23:53] <VolUTFan> why would creating a new account in kubuntu yield a completely white screen when you login
[23:57] <bprompt_> white or blank? or just a desktop with no icons?
[23:57] <VolUTFan> white desktop.  no icons  and no panels
[23:57] <VolUTFan> white and only white
[23:58] <VolUTFan> its the fella who was having problems with his system settings being blank.  I was thinking a new account might yield different results, so I helped him re-create a different test account with the exact same groups as his account, and login.
[23:58] <VolUTFan> only white
[23:59] <bprompt_> hmm
[23:59] <VolUTFan> yea, exactly
[23:59] <VolUTFan> I also checked his processes, and they are tied to the upstart just like on my 14.10 that is working fine