| Kilos | morning all | 05:20 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi Tonberry_ | 05:40 |
| Kilos | Padroni you early today | 06:04 |
| Kilos | http://techrights.org/2015/02/14/patent-blackmail-tactic/ | 06:06 |
| Kilos | hi SDCDev | 06:18 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 07:06 |
| Kilos | Maaz hi | 07:06 |
| Maaz | Howzit Kilos | 07:06 |
| inetpro | Maaz: goeie more | 07:41 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Sorry... | 07:41 |
| inetpro | oh and hi Kilos and everyone else | 07:41 |
| Kilos | hi there inetpro | 07:42 |
| Kilos | Maaz goeie more | 07:45 |
| Maaz | En goeie more vir jou ook Kilos Geniet jou dag. | 07:45 |
| Kilos | Maaz botsnack | 07:45 |
| Maaz | YAY someone cares about me too! | 07:45 |
| Kilos | inetpro latest full circle mag has some interesting reading | 07:46 |
| Kilos | you mos like rewading | 07:46 |
| Kilos | reading too | 07:46 |
| inetpro | link? | 07:47 |
| Kilos | sec | 07:47 |
| Kilos | http://fullcirclemagazine.org/issue-94/ | 07:47 |
| Kilos | especially page 30 and on | 07:49 |
| Kilos | for once i have spare data so i downloaded it | 07:51 |
| Kilos | 11MB about | 07:51 |
| Kilos | many interesating articles | 07:51 |
| Kilos | interesting | 07:52 |
| inetpro | yep, looks very interesting | 07:53 |
| inetpro | wish I could have that as a glossy magazine on my coffee table | 07:54 |
| Kilos | yeah | 07:54 |
| inetpro | too much to read in one go | 07:54 |
| Kilos | much too much | 07:54 |
| mopkop | Good morning all! | 07:55 |
| Kilos | am i right in saying 12.04 is supported longer than 14.04 | 07:55 |
| Kilos | hi mopkop | 07:56 |
| * Kilos busy upgrading 12.04 on my pc-repair stick | 07:56 | |
| Kilos | mopkop get this http://fullcirclemagazine.org/issue-94/ | 08:01 |
| mopkop | Seems nice, Thank you, I'll look at it :) | 08:02 |
| Kilos | yw lots of interesting articles in there | 08:02 |
| Kilos | you know how to download it hey? | 08:03 |
| mopkop | Yoou mean other than the pdf? | 08:03 |
| Kilos | lol i dunno i right click it and choose save as | 08:04 |
| mopkop | Yea, I just clicked on it and firefox opened the pdf viewer - it has a download button :0 | 08:04 |
| inetpro | wb mopkop | 08:05 |
| mopkop | Hello inetpro! | 08:05 |
| Kilos | ah you firefox peeps | 08:06 |
| inetpro | Kilos: what do you mean with, "am i right in saying 12.04 is supported longer than 14.04"? | 08:06 |
| Kilos | well im sure i saw somewhere 12.04 is supported til 2017 and 14.04 not so long | 08:07 |
| mopkop | 14.04 is Until 2019, as far as I know. | 08:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases | 08:07 |
| Kilos | oh yay ty for that | 08:08 |
| Kilos | i love 14.04 kde style | 08:08 |
| mopkop | Has anyone tried any mooc's recently? | 08:10 |
| mopkop | https://www.mooc-list.com/ | 08:10 |
| GuessWho | more inetpro mopkop Kilos | 08:12 |
| mopkop | Goeie more! | 08:12 |
| Kilos | more GuessWho | 08:13 |
| * Kilos watches inetpro | 08:13 | |
| mopkop | how do you make emotes? | 08:15 |
| mopkop | The *** Thing | 08:15 |
| Kilos | type /me and message | 08:16 |
| inetpro | GuessWho trying to be clever? | 08:16 |
| inetpro | Kilos: greet him | 08:16 |
| Kilos | i did | 08:16 |
| Kilos | hi GuessWho | 08:17 |
| inetpro | ai! | 08:17 |
| GuessWho | ek het mos gegroet Kilos | 08:17 |
| inetpro | mopkop: please excuse them bots | 08:18 |
| * mopkop is grateful for the advice | 08:18 | |
| mopkop | Lol, I'm enjoying this :) | 08:18 |
| Kilos | inetpro what bots? | 08:18 |
| inetpro | Kilos is our greeter bot and GuessWho is the kilos greeter bot | 08:19 |
| Kilos | haha slim kind | 08:19 |
| GuessWho | this is running from my pc-repair stick. so if you see it then you know im fixing something | 08:20 |
| inetpro | mopkop: clearly we haven't done the mooc stuff here, at least not me | 08:20 |
| Kilos | everyone else is shopping atm | 08:21 |
| mopkop | Yes neither have I, I was hoping to get some opinions on it. | 08:21 |
| Kilos | mopkop hear from the fly what you should study first, he knows most things | 08:22 |
| Kilos | and when you break something ask Mr. fixit | 08:23 |
| mopkop | The best way to learn is to break things :) | 08:23 |
| mopkop | I'll keep that in mind, thank you. | 08:24 |
| * inetpro likes that attitude | 08:24 | |
| inetpro | break it quickly | 08:24 |
| Kilos | i know i have broken everything except kubuntu 14.04 | 08:24 |
| GuessWho | ok guys cheers for now | 08:26 |
| inetpro | bye GuessWho | 08:26 |
| inetpro | Kilos: is mopkop listed on our members page yet? | 08:27 |
| Kilos | i dont think so | 08:27 |
| mopkop | Must I be an official member? | 08:27 |
| Kilos | lemme try find it | 08:27 |
| Kilos | no | 08:27 |
| Kilos | just member of ubuntu-za | 08:27 |
| Kilos | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members | 08:28 |
| inetpro | Kilos: your date is incorrect | 08:28 |
| inetpro | Ubuntu member since | 08:29 |
| inetpro | that is the date when you became official member | 08:29 |
| inetpro | supposedly | 08:29 |
| Kilos | i couldnt find the correct dates | 08:29 |
| Kilos | oh | 08:29 |
| Kilos | i go fix | 08:29 |
| Kilos | but dont know when that was either | 08:29 |
| Kilos | sigh | 08:30 |
| inetpro | it's on the LP page | 08:30 |
| inetpro | Latest memberships: Ubuntu Members - Joined on 2015-02-06 | 08:30 |
| Kilos | ty sir | 08:30 |
| inetpro | ai! | 08:31 |
| * inetpro actually had it listed correctly and he changed it | 08:31 | |
| Kilos | what now? | 08:32 |
| inetpro | mopkop: this is an informal list of members just for our own purposes | 08:32 |
| inetpro | helps us to remember who's who in the zoo | 08:33 |
| mopkop | I see... | 08:34 |
| Kilos | mopkop tell us a bit about yourself | 08:34 |
| inetpro | we have many more members than that, Kilos just has not found the time to tag and count all his sheep yet | 08:34 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:34 |
| Kilos | i cant keep up with all the to do stuff | 08:36 |
| Kilos | need to get the africa site finished so i can just do irc again | 08:36 |
| Kilos | outside world interferes too much | 08:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: if you check out my branch you'll see the wui working again | 08:39 |
| inetpro | see: https://code.launchpad.net/~inetpro/ubuntu-africa/fixbase/+merge/250556 | 08:39 |
| * inetpro has proposed a merge | 08:40 | |
| Kilos | yay ty so much | 08:40 |
| inetpro | uh | 08:40 |
| Kilos | can you remind fly please | 08:40 |
| inetpro | we're still waiting for superfly to calm down again and check it out | 08:40 |
| mopkop | Ok, My name is Ashton van Niekerk, I'm a 4th year theology student at Unisa - Next year I'm going to UP for my post-graduate studies. I'm a very curious person, for those who know the MBTI, im INFP/INTP. At my church I am kind of the IT guy, managing the website and so on. I only recently installed Ubuntu (only two days ago) so I'm quit new at this. I have a lot of experience in Volunteer projects, so I like working with other v | 08:41 |
| Kilos | ty mopkop keep it up | 08:42 |
| Kilos | hi Padroni | 08:42 |
| Kilos | oh the other one too | 08:43 |
| mopkop | Good morning Padroni! | 08:43 |
| Kilos | inetpro did you work from twit? | 08:45 |
| inetpro | Kilos: yes | 08:45 |
| inetpro | but not the last one | 08:45 |
| Kilos | but basically you can see the site with most of the stuffs relevant to africa hey? | 08:46 |
| inetpro | Kilos: branch it and see for yourself | 08:47 |
| Kilos | nono im touching nothing there atm | 08:47 |
| Kilos | ill break stuffs again | 08:47 |
| inetpro | just don't commit anything before superfly has had a look | 08:48 |
| inetpro | Kilos: commit is like uploading | 08:48 |
| inetpro | merge is down locally | 08:48 |
| inetpro | done | 08:48 |
| Kilos | so i can do bzr merge safely here? | 08:49 |
| inetpro | after updating your trunk with 'bzr up' you can safely do the merge locally to test | 08:49 |
| inetpro | To merge this branch: bzr merge lp:~inetpro/ubuntu-africa/fixbase | 08:49 |
| inetpro | that is from within an updated trunk | 08:49 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 08:50 |
| Kilos | dont you think mopkop is a good candidate for kde? | 08:51 |
| mopkop | KDE? | 08:51 |
| inetpro | try it, and if you break it, so be it | 08:51 |
| mopkop | Thr UI? | 08:51 |
| mopkop | The | 08:51 |
| Kilos | kubuntu 14.04 | 08:51 |
| mopkop | Yes, I've heard about it. | 08:52 |
| mopkop | What do you mean, canidate? | 08:52 |
| Kilos | its very different from the unity interface but works better once used to it imo | 08:52 |
| Kilos | customer | 08:52 |
| inetpro | Kilos: that is your opinion! | 08:52 |
| Kilos | candidate | 08:52 |
| Kilos | yes i said so | 08:53 |
| inetpro | oh and also my opinion... but that's irellevant | 08:53 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:53 |
| * inetpro 's opinion doens't count for anything | 08:53 | |
| Kilos | and thats only in his own opinion | 08:54 |
| mopkop | Personally, I like Unity. I haven't tried KDE though. | 08:54 |
| Kilos | you havent got the name Mr. fixit for nothing | 08:54 |
| mopkop | Is it like Windows? | 08:54 |
| inetpro | mopkop: create yourself a page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mopkop | 08:54 |
| Kilos | some say so but i dont see the similarity | 08:55 |
| mopkop | Have anyone here done the MBTI test before? I'm curious. | 08:58 |
| Kilos | inetpro i hope you have a backup of the stuffs | 09:00 |
| inetpro | mopkop: not me | 09:00 |
| Kilos | nor me | 09:00 |
| inetpro | what is MBTI anyway? | 09:00 |
| mopkop | I't a personality test. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indicator | 09:00 |
| inetpro | Kilos: it is version controlled! | 09:01 |
| inetpro | oh goodness | 09:01 |
| Kilos | i cant do that mopkop i lost mine | 09:01 |
| mopkop | lol | 09:01 |
| inetpro | mopkop: I've done too many of those in my life to even remember | 09:02 |
| Kilos | you can see me on my blog | 09:02 |
| Kilos | Maaz kilos.blog | 09:02 |
| Maaz | Kilos: kilos.blog is http://mileyssignificantblog.blogspot.com/ | 09:02 |
| mopkop | The MBTI is a very useful tool for predicting how people will react to certain situations and what decisions they will make. | 09:04 |
| inetpro | haha Kilos, you brought that back from the archives? | 09:04 |
| mopkop | Good morning magellanic! | 09:04 |
| magellanic | hi all | 09:04 |
| magellanic | :) | 09:04 |
| Kilos | im slowly trying to get it back | 09:04 |
| Kilos | hi magellanic | 09:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I remember that one | 09:05 |
| inetpro | sad that we don't have floss.pro any more | 09:05 |
| magellanic | anyone coming to scaleconf? | 09:05 |
| Kilos | yeah | 09:05 |
| mopkop | Where's that? | 09:05 |
| magellanic | cape town | 09:06 |
| inetpro | mopkop: you mean where was that? | 09:06 |
| inetpro | it's dead | 09:06 |
| mopkop | But... http://scaleconf.org/purchase/ | 09:07 |
| magellanic | :( | 09:08 |
| inetpro | magellanic: if you pay my flight ticket | 09:08 |
| magellanic | can't afford to :/ | 09:09 |
| magellanic | soz | 09:09 |
| inetpro | :-( | 09:09 |
| Kilos | man inetpro i cant merge bzr merge lp:~inetpro/ubuntu-africa/fixbase | 09:10 |
| inetpro | Kilos: why? | 09:11 |
| Kilos | it says there are uncommited changes | 09:11 |
| magellanic | I'll be in the same boat for pyconza, it is in jhb this year | 09:11 |
| inetpro | Kilos: did you do bzr up? | 09:11 |
| Kilos | ya | 09:11 |
| inetpro | ahh... you meade changes locally? | 09:12 |
| inetpro | made* | 09:12 |
| Kilos | bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu-africa | 09:12 |
| Kilos | ai! | 09:12 |
| inetpro | Kilos: it's bacause you maded changes locally on your trunk | 09:13 |
| Kilos | Tree is up to date at revision 4 of branch | 09:13 |
| Kilos | i havent even looked at it since you said leave it for fly | 09:13 |
| inetpro | ai... fingers trouble | 09:13 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you made changes before I said leave it | 09:13 |
| Kilos | ai! | 09:14 |
| inetpro | you should never work on trunk!!! | 09:14 |
| Kilos | i didnt only on twit | 09:14 |
| Kilos | thats where i am now | 09:14 |
| inetpro | bzr status | 09:14 |
| inetpro | nee man!!! | 09:15 |
| inetpro | go to trunk | 09:15 |
| inetpro | then bzr up | 09:15 |
| inetpro | Maaz: assumption | 09:15 |
| Maaz | An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts | 09:15 |
| Kilos | http://bin.snyman.info/5cuvj | 09:16 |
| inetpro | Kilos: stop making assumptions | 09:16 |
| Kilos | ai! again | 09:16 |
| inetpro | Kilos: cd ~/Projects/ubuntu-africa/trunk | 09:16 |
| inetpro | ai! | 09:16 |
| Kilos | you just said never work on trunk | 09:17 |
| Kilos | so im in twit | 09:17 |
| inetpro | Kilos: unless you do a merge | 09:17 |
| Kilos | ah | 09:17 |
| Kilos | lemme try that | 09:18 |
| inetpro | when I say, don't work on trunk I really mean you should not modify the code on trunk | 09:19 |
| Kilos | its doing something | 09:20 |
| inetpro | first branch it off to another folder, then modify, hack, hack, hack... commit your branch, ask someone to review, then propose a merge | 09:20 |
| Kilos | nono i cant hack hack man i copy/paste | 09:21 |
| Kilos | 20 conflicts encountered. | 09:21 |
| inetpro | Kilos: did you do bzr up? | 09:21 |
| Kilos | http://bin.snyman.info/jakts | 09:23 |
| Kilos | this bin is lekker | 09:23 |
| inetpro | Kilos: remove your cache folder | 09:24 |
| inetpro | and output | 09:24 |
| inetpro | nikola will recreate it | 09:25 |
| inetpro | now do a last bzr up just to make sure | 09:25 |
| Kilos | i need to find the cache first | 09:25 |
| inetpro | Kilos: rm -rf ~/Projects/ubuntu-africa/trunk/{cache,output} | 09:26 |
| Kilos | ty sir | 09:27 |
| Kilos | i did bzr up | 09:29 |
| Kilos | then bzr merge lp:~inetpro/ubuntu-africa/fixbase | 09:29 |
| Kilos | result - bzr: ERROR: Working tree "/home/miles/Projects/ubuntu-africa/trunk/" has uncommitted changes (See bzr status). | 09:30 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 09:30 |
| * inetpro trying it locally first | 09:35 | |
| inetpro | Kilos: sorry oom | 09:44 |
| * inetpro should have done a bit of research first | 09:44 | |
| inetpro | still busy with it but I know what the problem is | 09:45 |
| inetpro | conflicting because I removed the cache and output folders and then added the .bzrignore at the same time | 09:46 |
| * inetpro need to find a way to force the merge | 09:46 | |
| Kilos | np | 09:47 |
| inetpro | thought it would be simple, and maybe it is | 09:48 |
| Kilos | ive gotta move sheeps anyway and help sis offload shopping | 09:48 |
| Kilos | good luck | 09:48 |
| inetpro | but that is why I wanted the fly to look at it first | 09:48 |
| inetpro | am sure we'll find a solution | 09:48 |
| inetpro | not problemo | 09:48 |
| * inetpro also have other things to deal with | 09:49 | |
| Kilos | life and days just too short to get to everything | 09:57 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 10:18 |
| Kilos | yay it wasnt something i broke | 10:19 |
| Kilos | mopkop learn python man | 10:58 |
| mopkop | I'll try :) | 11:00 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:00 |
| mopkop | Now I have a community to help me :) | 11:00 |
| Kilos | once youve done that and upgraded our bot db to python 3 then you can learn bzr | 11:02 |
| Kilos | then you can build your church site static | 11:02 |
| Kilos | much faster and more secure | 11:03 |
| mopkop | Sorry Internet dropped. | 11:19 |
| mopkop | Is bzr like git? | 11:20 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 11:22 |
| Kilos | morning tumbleweed hows things by you? | 11:22 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: good. Visiting Cape Town for a week | 11:23 |
| Kilos | lekker | 11:23 |
| Kilos | sorry for all the notifications from the wiki | 11:24 |
| tumbleweed | that sounds like a good thing :) | 11:24 |
| Kilos | haha mostly me making mistakes | 11:24 |
| tumbleweed | congrats on your membership | 11:24 |
| Kilos | have to do edit a bit then see what it looks like first before carrying on | 11:24 |
| tumbleweed | there is a Preview button :P | 11:25 |
| Kilos | ty and ty for the estimonial too | 11:25 |
| tumbleweed | ...only *just* in time... | 11:25 |
| Kilos | ill look for that next time ty | 11:25 |
| Kilos | just in time is way better than late or never | 11:26 |
| Kilos | next we gotta push the pro | 11:27 |
| magellanic | there's some flu making its rounds in cape town, doze up on vitamins and stuff | 11:36 |
| mopkop | What should I include on my wiki page? | 11:39 |
| Kilos | you will use it later when you apply for membership so put what you can in atm | 11:42 |
| Kilos | mopkop see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/superfly | 11:42 |
| Kilos | oh tumbleweed will you update your dates here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members please | 11:48 |
| mopkop | Ok, Thank You So about me and contact info. And maybe my philosophy. I'll leave the Contribution and Testimonials until I actualy do something. | 11:49 |
| Kilos | cool | 11:50 |
| mopkop | Is there anything I can help with other than coding? | 11:50 |
| Kilos | when im sleeping you can be the greeter bot | 11:51 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:51 |
| mopkop | lol | 11:51 |
| Kilos | basically get to know the guys here and try remember what they can do | 11:52 |
| Kilos | then when a noob needs help you can either help or ponit them to the right person that knows | 11:52 |
| Kilos | point | 11:53 |
| mopkop | IRC support, I can do :) | 11:53 |
| Kilos | yay | 11:53 |
| mopkop | BRB, have to log into windows for a sec. | 11:53 |
| Kilos | ouch | 11:53 |
| mopkop | Yea, unfortunately libre office is not that good with MS Office layout. So if someone sends me a document I need to use windows. I'll install Pidgin on Windows too :) | 11:55 |
| Kilos | wb mopkop | 12:00 |
| mopkop | Hello, from Windows :) | 12:01 |
| Kilos | sympathies | 12:01 |
| mopkop | Still waiting for thunderbird to open.... | 12:02 |
| magellanic | mopkop: tried google docs for ms office files? | 12:07 |
| mopkop | Not yet. | 12:09 |
| mopkop | Can it convert pdf files? | 12:10 |
| mopkop | Or Publisher to pdf? | 12:10 |
| charl | good afternoon | 12:10 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 12:10 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 12:10 | |
| Kilos | hi charl | 12:10 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 12:10 |
| mopkop | Hello Charl! | 12:10 |
| charl | hi mopkop | 12:11 |
| Kilos | charl how do you view ms office documents | 12:11 |
| charl | use libreoffice or ask for pdf | 12:11 |
| Kilos | <mopkop> Yea, unfortunately libre office is not that good with MS Office layout. | 12:12 |
| magellanic | mopkop: yeah, you can choose to open a pdf in drive as a google doc, it turns it into an editable doc for you. You can then export to pdf as well | 12:12 |
| Kilos | help mopkop please | 12:12 |
| mopkop | Can it combine files into pdf? | 12:12 |
| magellanic | maaz google combine google docs convert to pdf | 12:14 |
| Maaz | magellanic: "10 Tips To Do More With Your PDF Files On Google Drive" http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-tips-pdf-files-google-drive/ :: "The Best PDF Tools and Apps - Adobe PDF Guide - Digital Inspiration" http://www.labnol.org/software/adobe-pdf-guide-tutorial/6296/ :: "How to Merge PDF Files On A Chromebook - OMG! Chrome!" http://www.omgchrome.com/merge-pdfs-google- | 12:14 |
| Maaz | chrome-chromebook/ :: "Best PDF Software - Power PDF Standard | Nuance | Nuance" http://w… | 12:14 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 12:14 |
| magellanic | maaz coffee for me? | 12:15 |
| Maaz | magellanic: Excuse me? | 12:15 |
| charl | Maaz: danke | 12:15 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 12:15 |
| charl | mopkop: it's true libreoffice is not very good with ms office files | 12:15 |
| charl | mopkop: best way is simply to always ask for a pdf version | 12:15 |
| magellanic | what version of libre office though? there was a new release with improved support I believe | 12:16 |
| charl | every version gets better | 12:16 |
| charl | and then ms releases a new version of office and breaks things again | 12:16 |
| mopkop | You see the problem is I get two documents. One in MS Word and one in MS Publisher. Then I have to combine into one document. I can ask for 2 pdf's but then it becomes difficult to copy-paste the info onto the website. | 12:18 |
| charl | yeah pdf is horrible with copy and paste | 12:19 |
| charl | how do you mean you need to combine them into one document ? | 12:19 |
| charl | manually combine the two and make a web page out of it ? | 12:19 |
| mopkop | No, uhm, here is a link to last week's newsletter. http://ngkwonderboom.co.za/www/index.php/argiewe/gebedsbriewe/829-gebedsbrief-22-februarie-2015 | 12:20 |
| mopkop | And then I also have the pdf http://ngkwonderboom.co.za/docs/gebedsbriewe/Gebedsbrief-2015-02-22.pdf | 12:20 |
| mopkop | The pdf is necessarry because some people like to print it, and also because it contains some information I do not put on the web, like the advertisements and new members. | 12:23 |
| magellanic | what does publisher do for you then? | 12:24 |
| mopkop | The dominee makes the last two pages of the newsletter in Publisher. | 12:24 |
| mopkop | I Combine this with the first two pages (Word) into one downloadable pdf. | 12:25 |
| magellanic | oh okay | 12:33 |
| charl | sorry i don't have any real office experience to talk of so hard for me to give advice | 12:36 |
| charl | but the suggestion of using google docs as an alternative to libreoffice sounds good | 12:36 |
| mopkop | I'll look into it, Thank you! | 12:41 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: done | 12:42 |
| mopkop | Then again, Microsoft has a free online suite | 12:42 |
| Kilos | ty tumbleweed | 12:42 |
| Kilos | hi clr | 12:42 |
| mopkop | Hello CLR! | 12:42 |
| clr | hey | 12:42 |
| clr | hey hey | 12:42 |
| clr | how are you mopkop?, Kilos? | 12:43 |
| Kilos | lekker ty and you? | 12:43 |
| clr | ya, just using the last of my bandwidth for the month hehe. I'm downloading Citizenfour | 12:44 |
| Kilos | haha | 12:44 |
| clr | oh and making a playlist on deezer | 12:44 |
| clr | what has been happening around here? | 12:45 |
| mopkop | Much to be thankful for, thank you! We're discussing MS Office alternatives. | 12:45 |
| clr | At the meeting the other day inetpro asked for someone to make a howto to register on launchpad and sign the code of conduct | 12:46 |
| clr | has anyone made one yet? | 12:46 |
| clr | haa, ya, google docs anyone? | 12:46 |
| clr | kingsoft office? | 12:47 |
| clr | libre office? | 12:47 |
| clr | open office :/ | 12:48 |
| charl | mopkop: true, office365, that is also a good thing to look at | 12:48 |
| mopkop | Not to my knowledge? If no-one has done it, I won't mind. I did the code of conduct thing just yesterday. | 12:48 |
| clr | charl, meet charl (clr) | 12:49 |
| Kilos | haha | 12:50 |
| clr | ok mopkop, have you just volunteered? | 12:54 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:54 |
| clr | Kilos will tell you where it should go | 12:54 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 12:55 |
| clr | no doubt Kilos will make a trello card for that | 12:55 |
| Kilos | not me man the pro makes them | 12:55 |
| clr | haa so it was his idea and he slipped up, cause I did not see a card for that | 12:56 |
| mopkop | Yes I'm volentering. I'll make a text-based one and one with pictures DV :) | 12:57 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 12:57 |
| clr | well done | 12:59 |
| clr | I'm still conflicted with this idea of having a gpg key and nobody has signed the damn thing | 12:59 |
| clr | well done mopkop, you have yourself a job hehe | 13:00 |
| superfly | mopkop: you can't maybe get the dominee to use Scribus instead of Publisher? | 13:01 |
| mopkop | Superfly: I doubt it. He doesn't like to switch programs. He simply refuses to even use Windows 8. Maybe I can ask him to send me both the Office documents AND the pdf's. He know how to convert it. | 13:05 |
| Kilos | stubborn dominee | 13:05 |
| mopkop | Hello Xethron! | 13:06 |
| Kilos | hi Xethron | 13:07 |
| mopkop | Hey guys, I'm going to buy food now, be back (with Ubuntu) in a while. | 13:08 |
| Kilos | ok lol | 13:08 |
| magellanic | heya superfly | 13:16 |
| superfly | sup magellanic | 13:16 |
| clr | hello Xethron | 13:18 |
| clr | Bernhard? | 13:18 |
| Xethron | yo clr. Jup | 13:18 |
| magellanic | not much, finishing off some sys admin stuff, self? | 13:18 |
| Xethron | Yo Kilos | 13:18 |
| Xethron | and superfly | 13:18 |
| Xethron | And everyone else :) | 13:18 |
| superfly | supposedly decrypting voucher files, but our support lady is not replying... | 13:18 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:19 |
| superfly | hey Xethron | 13:19 |
| Xethron | clr: and you are? | 13:19 |
| * superfly is ready for an afternoon nap though | 13:19 | |
| magellanic | heya Xethron | 13:19 |
| magellanic | ah, you on support this weekend then? | 13:19 |
| superfly | yeah | 13:20 |
| superfly | really need to get her a laptop | 13:20 |
| magellanic | here she was thinking weekends are going to be weekends :P | 13:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:22 |
| charl | talking about google apps | 13:22 |
| charl | http://www.geek.com/news/google-just-spent-25-million-to-own-the-entire-app-domain-1616709/ | 13:22 |
| superfly | magellanic: no, she has a small android phone, and she deals with any incoming calls | 13:22 |
| magellanic | I also need a nap though - flu thing is killing me | 13:22 |
| magellanic | oh shame, nice of her :) | 13:23 |
| superfly | but she's also supposed to buy and decrypt vouchers, and she can't really do the decrypting without a PC | 13:23 |
| magellanic | yeah can imagine | 13:23 |
| superfly | well, technically if she was on top of things, she wouldn't need to buy on the weekends... but it's a learning process | 13:23 |
| magellanic | ah okay | 13:23 |
| magellanic | we all learn best the hard way :p | 13:24 |
| superfly | this is not the first time it's happened, but I'm not the right person to tell her to be more forward-looking. | 13:25 |
| magellanic | :/ | 13:26 |
| magellanic | charl: interesting, image they want it for app engine as well, appspot.com should be getting full I hope | 13:26 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User | 13:41 |
| Private_User | hi Kilos | 13:42 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 14:25 |
| Kilos | oi | 14:26 |
| Kilos | hes scared of me already | 14:26 |
| nlsthzn | hey uncle Kilos :) | 14:28 |
| nlsthzn | could you ping me... setting up konversation | 14:29 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn ping | 14:30 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:30 |
| nlsthzn | hmmm | 14:30 |
| Kilos | back on kde | 14:30 |
| nlsthzn | ok thanks, need to sort the sound :p | 14:30 |
| Kilos | i saw a new thing today | 14:30 |
| Kilos | you know this one? Chromixium | 14:31 |
| Kilos | http://chromixium.org/about/ | 14:31 |
| nlsthzn | ping again pls?! | 14:32 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn ping | 14:32 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn ping | 14:32 |
| nlsthzn | perfect thanks :) | 14:32 |
| Kilos | what sound you got when nick mentioned? | 14:32 |
| nlsthzn | I am not a fan of chrome os... | 14:32 |
| nlsthzn | just a ping | 14:33 |
| nlsthzn | low prioroty sound | 14:33 |
| Kilos | pling | 14:33 |
| Kilos | when your nick is mentioned it should be a high priority sound like bell.ogg | 14:34 |
| nlsthzn | lol, it gets my attention ;) | 14:34 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:34 |
| Kilos | neelsie we need you to do some work for us please | 14:34 |
| Kilos | the reports thing | 14:34 |
| Kilos | otherwise i will never get rest | 14:35 |
| nlsthzn | ok uncle Kilos... I will make that a priority tomorrow, I will do it and also make a wiki page detailing what and how and when etc... will that restore your peace? | 14:36 |
| Kilos | lol hopefully, i get told my sjambok is useless | 14:36 |
| Kilos | ty very much in advance | 14:37 |
| Kilos | the what and how page will be a great help too | 14:38 |
| charl | hi nlsthzn | 14:38 |
| nlsthzn | yup | 14:38 |
| nlsthzn | hey charl | 14:38 |
| nlsthzn | grrr the custom user colours not that great in konversation, so far everyone is coming up red :/ | 14:39 |
| Kilos | oh you can change all of that till it looks like a christmas tree | 14:39 |
| nlsthzn | sure I have it checked :/ | 14:44 |
| nlsthzn | oh well, will stillplay | 14:44 |
| Kilos | i think konversation is more conf friendly than all the others | 14:44 |
| nlsthzn | so some rugby soon... I suspect the Bulls are going down again :/ | 14:44 |
| Kilos | haha | 14:44 |
| nlsthzn | well if it is KDE then it can be configured :p | 14:45 |
| Kilos | maybe the sharks will let them win so they done get totally discouraged | 14:45 |
| nlsthzn | that would be a handy excuse to use :) | 14:46 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:47 |
| nlsthzn | kubuntu with the backports enabled is pretty awesome :D | 14:56 |
| * nlsthzn needs to get a boerewors roll and a beer ... | 14:57 | |
| nlsthzn | go bulls! | 14:57 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:57 |
| Kilos | go sharks | 14:57 |
| Kilos | whats the backports thing? | 14:57 |
| Squirm | Hello | 15:00 |
| nlsthzn | with backports you get the latest versions of KDE... it is a way to update the system without bother peeps that are happy to use what they have | 15:00 |
| nlsthzn | o/ Squirm | 15:00 |
| nlsthzn | so now I am on kde 4.14.2 | 15:00 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 15:00 |
| nlsthzn | while still being on kubuntu 14.04 | 15:00 |
| Kilos | wow | 15:01 |
| Kilos | 4.14.2? | 15:01 |
| Kilos | 14.04.2 | 15:01 |
| nlsthzn | yup | 15:01 |
| Kilos | ah me too | 15:01 |
| nlsthzn | ... just add the backports ppa and BOOM | 15:01 |
| Kilos | i think | 15:01 |
| Kilos | how much data? | 15:02 |
| nlsthzn | KDE 4.14.2 | 15:02 |
| nlsthzn | oh it is a lot | 15:02 |
| nlsthzn | but it seems they have stopped backporting as 4.14.4 is available afaik | 15:02 |
| nlsthzn | it updates the whole KDE... | 15:02 |
| Kilos | wow | 15:02 |
| nlsthzn | basically most of a kubuntu install | 15:02 |
| Kilos | to plasma 5? | 15:03 |
| nlsthzn | but KDE 5 is now almost here | 15:03 |
| nlsthzn | not plasma 5 yet | 15:03 |
| nlsthzn | but close | 15:03 |
| nlsthzn | plasma 5 will be coming 15.04 | 15:03 |
| Kilos | ah | 15:03 |
| nlsthzn | I think I will try and stay away until 16.04... LTS and also more mature | 15:03 |
| Kilos | thats safer for me too | 15:04 |
| Kilos | my 14.04 is unbreakable | 15:04 |
| nlsthzn | lol | 15:05 |
| nlsthzn | nothing can't break in linux | 15:05 |
| nlsthzn | where there is a terminal there is a way to fix stuff... and also break it horribly :p | 15:05 |
| Kilos | this has been working for a year with only one drive zero killing it | 15:05 |
| Kilos | grrr first blood | 15:07 |
| Kilos | sjoe lets get physical | 15:11 |
| Kilos | unfair forward pass | 15:33 |
| nlsthzn | all is fair in love and war | 15:36 |
| nlsthzn | :p | 15:36 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:37 |
| Kilos | stop sticking your tongue out at me | 15:37 |
| * Kilos looks for sjambok | 15:38 | |
| Kilos | w0000t | 15:39 |
| Kilos | revenge is sweet | 15:39 |
| nlsthzn | clearly my stream is behind | 15:39 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:40 |
| nlsthzn | I should stop looking here cause I saw the comment and then 2 minutes later they score :/ | 15:40 |
| nlsthzn | pollard is playing well, tackled marcell that he lost the ball | 15:40 |
| Kilos | he is a brilliant player | 15:40 |
| nlsthzn | my stream is a slide show >.< | 15:47 |
| Kilos | sjoe so intense this game | 15:47 |
| Kilos | war is like a tennis game conpared to this | 15:52 |
| Kilos | compared | 15:52 |
| nlsthzn | glad the bulls look slightly better | 15:52 |
| Kilos | yip they are getting it together | 15:55 |
| Kilos | oh my | 16:08 |
| nlsthzn | good game thus ar | 16:18 |
| nlsthzn | far | 16:18 |
| Kilos | ya | 16:18 |
| Kilos | my poor sharks are battling | 16:18 |
| Kilos | wb mopkop | 16:20 |
| mopkop | Thank you | 16:20 |
| Maaz | mopkop: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell mopkop http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/pdftotext.1.html" 2 hours, 16 minutes and 28 seconds ago | 16:20 |
| Kilos | oh ya maybe you can convert things from command line | 16:20 |
| Kilos | i had to do that once i think | 16:21 |
| mopkop | Wow, I see, It's pre-installed. | 16:22 |
| Kilos | tell the dominee to do everything in text mode then you can convert after merging stuff | 16:23 |
| mopkop | I once told him just to do everything in word, but he doesn't know how. And he is way too busy to learn. | 16:24 |
| Kilos | eish | 16:24 |
| superfly | "way too busy to learn" - hah! | 16:26 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:26 |
| superfly | mopkop: btw have you seen http://openlp.org ? | 16:28 |
| * superfly does a shameless plug | 16:29 | |
| mopkop | superfly: Yes, indeed I have! I downloaded it, havn't tried it yet. | 16:29 |
| superfly | mopkop: #openlp if you have any issues | 16:30 |
| mopkop | Is there anyway to import new songs? | 16:30 |
| mopkop | Other than presentation? | 16:30 |
| mopkop | Ek meen, kan ek die liedboek daar insit? | 16:31 |
| Kilos | mopkop ask dominee to record what he wqants to say on tape or dictaphone then you type it | 16:45 |
| Kilos | you dont get easier than that | 16:45 |
| superfly | mopkop: we don't have a liedboek import, but there are a few other importers | 16:45 |
| mopkop | Yea, I wondered about that, because the Church has to actually pay to use it. But since we pay anyway, I though it would be nice if we could import it. | 16:46 |
| mopkop | Kilos: Yea, or he can just send me an email. | 16:46 |
| Kilos | lol the mails will come from outlook | 16:47 |
| Kilos | but that can work | 16:47 |
| superfly | mopkop: what format do you get the songs in? | 16:47 |
| superfly | mopkop: what are you currently using? | 16:48 |
| mopkop | A program written in flash. | 16:48 |
| superfly | ugh | 16:48 |
| mopkop | We also have powerpoints for all the songs. | 16:48 |
| * Kilos sulks | 16:51 | |
| superfly | Kilos: again? | 16:52 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: what a game | 16:54 |
| * Kilos so sad | 16:54 | |
| Kilos | nlsthzn very very tough game | 16:54 |
| nlsthzn | so sharks get nothing | 16:54 |
| nlsthzn | and bulls get 5 | 16:54 |
| nlsthzn | wow | 16:54 |
| superfly | are you guys talking about that weird "sport" thing again? | 16:54 |
| nlsthzn | it seemed very physical | 16:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:55 |
| Kilos | superfly i enjoy watching anyone do something well | 16:55 |
| nlsthzn | pity for all the controversial tries | 16:55 |
| nlsthzn | oh well the bulls needed it | 16:55 |
| Kilos | something i can understand | 16:55 |
| * superfly doesn't understand why any grown man would want to run around a field after an oddly shaped ball that can't even bounce properly | 16:56 | |
| superfly | doubly so when people want to hit run into you just because you have the weird ball | 16:57 |
| superfly | :-P | 16:57 |
| superfly | s/hit// | 16:57 |
| superfly | -_- that doesn't look too savoury | 16:57 |
| Kilos | lol i would enjoy watching you code if i understood it | 16:57 |
| superfly | Kilos: you'd be bored | 16:58 |
| Kilos | not if i understood | 16:58 |
| Kilos | i enjoyed you teamviewing me | 16:59 |
| superfly | even then... my boss understands, but he will walk away after a minute or two | 16:59 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:59 |
| superfly | Rynomnomnomnomster: | 17:00 |
| mopkop | Hello Rynomster! | 17:00 |
| nlsthzn | superfly: to each his own... everyone has something they enjoy :) | 17:01 |
| superfly | nlsthzn: I'm teasing more than anything else. I don't mind a little bit of cricket every now and then | 17:02 |
| nlsthzn | superfly: I know :p | 17:02 |
| superfly | and I'll watch a hockey game any day | 17:02 |
| nlsthzn | I have spent way to much time watching others game on twitch.tv and such sites >.< | 17:03 |
| Kilos | and you watched a rugger game and enjoyed it superfly | 17:04 |
| superfly | now *that* is something I don't understand | 17:04 |
| Kilos | i remember | 17:04 |
| superfly | Kilos: nope | 17:04 |
| Kilos | yes | 17:04 |
| Kilos | think back | 17:04 |
| Kilos | quite a few years | 17:04 |
| Kilos | was a world champiuonship game i think | 17:04 |
| superfly | ai, Kilos, how am I supposed to remember a few years ago when I can barely remember 5 minutes ago? | 17:05 |
| Kilos | rofl | 17:05 |
| Kilos | you getting like me | 17:05 |
| Kilos | i go eat | 17:05 |
| superfly | Kilos: I'm not bald yet :-P | 17:05 |
| nlsthzn | superfly: there is a guy hand coding an entire game (everything from scratch...) and streaming it, about two hours each day and people watch that... | 17:06 |
| nlsthzn | people will watch anything :) | 17:06 |
| mopkop | This Code of conduct walkthrough thing. Will it be used for Ubuntu South Africa only, or available for everyone on the net? | 17:07 |
| superfly | mopkop: the Ubuntu community | 17:08 |
| mopkop | OK, so it's not a good Idea to use my real name and email address on the example? | 17:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:09 |
| superfly | mopkop: are you creating a gpg key? | 17:10 |
| Kilos | writing a how to for it superfly | 17:11 |
| Kilos | he got his yesterday | 17:12 |
| superfly | ah, OK | 17:12 |
| superfly | yeah, don't use your real name | 17:12 |
| superfly | just use "example@example.com" | 17:12 |
| superfly | or "John Doe <john.doe@example.com>" | 17:12 |
| Kilos | you can maybe put it on our site by the become a member section superfly | 17:13 |
| mopkop | Just confirming the OpenPGP program (gpg) is available on ubuntu by default? | 17:20 |
| mopkop | GNUPG? | 17:20 |
| mopkop | You don't have to install anything? | 17:20 |
| Kilos | you generate it | 17:21 |
| mopkop | Yes, I mean the program to generate it. | 17:21 |
| Kilos | yours worked , what did you install | 17:21 |
| Kilos | do you have synaptic installed | 17:22 |
| Kilos | in synapt5ic you can see things | 17:22 |
| mopkop | I downloaded GNU Privacy Assistant, but removed it, and gpg still works. It even has a man-page, so I'm guessing it has nothing to do with the program I installed? | 17:23 |
| Kilos | if there is a man page its installed | 17:23 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install aptitude synaptic | 17:24 |
| Kilos | now tell me you already have aptitude | 17:24 |
| mopkop | It's downloading, so no, I guess... | 17:25 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:25 |
| mopkop | What's it for? | 17:25 |
| Kilos | aptitude is alovely tool i use instead of apt-get | 17:25 |
| Kilos | fly and pro told me to use it | 17:26 |
| mopkop | I see. So how can I use it to figure out if this gpg program is... nevermind I'll just google it. | 17:28 |
| Kilos | open synaptic | 17:28 |
| Kilos | at the top tight is a small window | 17:28 |
| Kilos | type in there the program you want to see | 17:29 |
| Kilos | it will show you everything related | 17:29 |
| mopkop | I see. Thank you. Apparently gpg is a default linux command on all distros, so it will be included. | 17:30 |
| Kilos | you can look at man aptitude | 17:31 |
| Kilos | great install tool | 17:31 |
| mopkop | Already did :) | 17:31 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:31 |
| Kilos | it also tells you if there are some errors and gives options to fix them | 17:32 |
| mopkop | I see. And it does all the apt-get program does? | 17:33 |
| Kilos | more in my opinion | 17:35 |
| Kilos | some say it hasnt got supercow powers but i have superfly so dont need supercow | 17:36 |
| mopkop | lol | 17:36 |
| Kilos | are you doing everything on one workspace? | 17:37 |
| mopkop | Yes, why? | 17:37 |
| Kilos | ubuntu gives the option to have more | 17:38 |
| Kilos | i use 10 | 17:38 |
| mopkop | Yes, I know, but I don't like multi-tasking. I read somewhere it is actually less productive. | 17:38 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:39 |
| Kilos | in synaptic you can right click on a package and choose reinstall | 17:40 |
| Kilos | if it says it must get some archives then it updates what you need | 17:40 |
| mopkop | I see, so you can update individually. I usually just use apt-get upgrade, but then it updates all my programs. | 17:41 |
| Kilos | run aptitude upgrade and see if there is stuff apt-get missed | 17:42 |
| Kilos | synaptic does each one you choose to upgrade | 17:43 |
| Kilos | i use apt-get update $$ sudo aptitude upgrade | 17:43 |
| Kilos | && | 17:43 |
| mopkop | Does aptitude access a wider ranges of repositories by default? | 17:45 |
| Kilos | no | 17:45 |
| Kilos | apt-get doesnt do kernel stuffs | 17:46 |
| mopkop | I see, but is it prudent to update your kernel that way. Doesn't the update program on Ubuntu do that anyway? I set it to only download LTS versions. | 17:47 |
| Kilos | ya update manager does it, but so does aptitude which is faster | 17:48 |
| Kilos | i turn off automatic updates and do them when i can use night surfer data | 17:49 |
| mopkop | I see, but I don't have a cap, so I'm fine :) | 17:49 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:50 |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry | 17:57 |
| mopkop | Good evening Tonberry! | 17:57 |
| Tonberry | hello | 18:25 |
| Xethron | lol, mopkop | 18:40 |
| mopkop | What is a good WYSIWYG html editor for Linux? | 18:58 |
| Kilos | http://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/287/wysiwyg-html-editor-for-linux | 19:00 |
| Kilos | http://bluegriffon.org/ | 19:00 |
| Kilos | wb clr | 19:02 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 19:51 |
| Kilos | night you bunch of silent ones. sleep tight | 19:54 |
| Kilos | see ya morrow | 19:54 |
| mopkop | Lekker slaap! | 19:54 |
| inetpro | good evening | 20:02 |
| inetpro | ai! You guys talk too much | 20:02 |
| inetpro | ai! | 20:06 |
| inetpro | 02/28 19:46:15 <Kilos> apt-get doesnt do kernel stuffs | 20:07 |
| inetpro | really? | 20:07 |
| inetpro | that's like one more wild statement amongst many others | 20:08 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 20:15 |
| inetpro | good night | 20:15 |
| mopkop | Anyone still awake? | 20:45 |
| mopkop | I'm done with that Code-of-Conduct walk through thingy. | 20:46 |
| mopkop | Well the plain-text version at least. | 20:46 |
| mopkop | Who do I send it to for review? | 20:47 |
| superfly | hey mopkop | 21:05 |
| superfly | mopkop: were you intending putting it on the website? | 21:06 |
| mopkop | I do not know. Someone asked for it to be done, and I did it. You can decide what should be done with it. | 21:06 |
| mopkop | I put it on Trello for review. | 21:07 |
| mopkop | Good night everyone! | 21:30 |
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